Couldn't happen to nicer people,eh.
Live in a fairly quiet,unremarkable corner of Kiwiland-whilst overseas for 5 yrs came back & there's this concrete mostrosity[looks more like a citadel] of a mosque where none existed before paid for by guess who-the Saudis! Also a growing population of Muslims where if a few were there before, no one noticed.
Latest is,local University is taking in 3 times number of Saudis as STUDENTS...[Nobody want's to refuse all that Saudi money even if one day it will be used to kill us].
Don't wish to alarm you, folks ,but there is a Flying School not far away where anyone can get lessons-and I mean ANYONE.
Our Headmistress P.M, Helen Clarke is a P.C Multiculturalist of the old School-she is in a Time Warp of the world as it was 20 yrs ago.
There is a couple of years to go until next election but this might not be soon enough for
a big bang to shake 'Land of the Long White Cloud' and no, it isn't Forwards farting on a Rugby Field either...We might see some entirely different 'men in Black' like Jihadis shouting
Alluhu Akbar instead of 'Keep your head down,Trev' or 'Kill,the bloody Ref'...

Posted by: Morgane at April 30, 2007 6:23 AM

There isn't one answer to the above survey, but clearly the non-Muslim world would be made safer with the invention of a source of energy that has nothing to do with oil. Without trillions of oil dollars, these 'Islamic' countries would have to scramble just to keep their own people at bay. The hatred that these millions of 'peaceful' Muslims feel towards the US and Israel would soon be turned into active hatred/violence against their own rulers. Oh yes, and once the House of Saud and Company falls....let them move to the Empty Quarter..and NOT to my hometown. That rule should apply throughout the Muslim world...they must remain in their own countries and not come to where I live with my family...I want to live in peace and not the insanity that comes from living under sharia.

Posted by: maryrose at April 30, 2007 6:54 AM

The Wahabbi clergy are nothing but thoroughly dishonorable scum. The 9/11 attacks are par for the course for them; and their willingness to betray political patrons of their own faith is further evidence that they will be either at your feet or at at your throat.

Posted by: Kepha at April 30, 2007 7:06 AM

Turkey is on the brink too.

Scroll down and you find some Sowdi/Pali lunatic clerics call for 'martyrs'- because they themselves would never blow themselves to smithereens:

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/04/29/300000-secular-turks-protest-turkish-government/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at April 30, 2007 7:17 AM

Looks good on them.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at April 30, 2007 7:47 AM

...The house of Saud is developing cracks...big cracks...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 30, 2007 8:42 AM

"Confusing? Not really. As part of their pact, Saudi royalty expects the clergy to keep the jihadists in line on their home ground".

The German industrialists and Imperialists thought they were going to use the Nazis for their purposes, but they did not ride the tiger, they ended up in the tiger's belly.

Behind this exporting of Islam is the old historic Imperialist pattern that uses religion-ideology to subjugate, exploit, and remove an "indigenous culture and people". Islam has been the most effective cover for Imperialism in history (better than the British, Manchu, Spaniard, Aztec, American west, etc.) rationalizing the will to dominate and exploit, making it "holy" via costumes, rituals, etc. Islam even permitted the Arabs to exterminate people in India in the name of God (not unusual in history).

As Hugh has said, Islam is in its essence "the engine of Arab Imperialism". Current Jihad may be the last act of this old and very tired Imperialist-will-to-dominate story. Because of modern technology, they (the imperialist religion-ideology rationalizations) are now a danger to the entire human species.

Posted by: Frank at April 30, 2007 8:47 AM

Islam is essentially the Arabs' "Manifest Destiny" doctorine. Such rationalizations for conquest of "indigenous cultures and peoples" are the rule in history. Make no mistake about it, current Jihad is in the old historic pattern. Ultimately, this historic pattern has got to go. Technology has made it a danger beyond calculation.

Posted by: Frank at April 30, 2007 8:56 AM

Islam is one of many religion-ideology-systems in history that should be studied as a tool of
domination-Imperialism. There are many of them in history and they should be studied together with an eye to the pattern noted. It is pretended (for political reasons)that the pattern (referenced above) is unique to the West. Actually, the pattern of using religion-ideology to subdue an "indigenous culture and people" is typical in history. We (the human species) must come to see this pattern clearly if we are to survive on earth and stop the infantile blame/shame game on this vital matter.

Posted by: Frank at April 30, 2007 9:13 AM

Damn these bastards to hell.

Like CAIR they pretend to be our friends.

A time of loathing is approaching for both from the West.

(now ask how one really feels towards these two)

Posted by: dgene at April 30, 2007 9:44 AM

...The house of Saud is developing cracks...big cracks...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at April 30, 2007 08:42 AM

It's going to become the House of Sore when these fanatic bastards get through with them.

Posted by: Frank at April 30, 2007 9:59 AM

And how long will the Saudis continue to get away with propogating violent jihad from West Africa, South and Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe and the west itself. Almost all the symptoms if growing radicalism, from the increasing religous strife in previously harmonious West Africa, for example in Togo and the Ivory Coast, the atrocities of Laksar Jihad in the Moluccas, the rapidly increasing religous persecution in Bangladesh, Bosnian Federation, Northern Nigeria, Kosovo and elsewhere, and the anarchy of muslims in the West can be at least partially, and in some of these cases almost enitirely attributed, to the Sauds. They are largely respnsible for all these tragedies and the innocents murdered as a result.

Now's the time for the Conservative right to understand that a national project for alternative energy, to stop our reliance in Big Oil and stop giving the Saudis so much influence, is the truly patriotic thing to do right about now.

Posted by: maxwell46&2 at April 30, 2007 10:40 AM

Last week's press releases by the al-saud was just for show. I'm sure Condi and Dubya were duly impressed. After all, our good friends and allies, the al-saud, are fighting "the terrorists" just like we are, and we must stay the course, just like them.

Still, the author's point is well taken. All those escapades by those corpulent debauched princes should be documented and disseminated, by whatever means necessary, to those seething, frothing 'clerics'. Where are the paparazzi when you need them?

Posted by: Infidel33 at April 30, 2007 10:42 AM

It's going to become the House of Sore when these fanatic bastards get through with them.

Posted by: Frank at April 30, 2007 09:59 AM

***

Or maybe the House of Sawed if the meet up with the neck whacking kind of fanatics.

The Saudis have chopped off hands for years in their pursuit of pure Islam while engaging in some of the world's most licentious behavior. Seems fair that their heads are in danger of the same treatment by the monster they created.

Posted by: CJ at April 30, 2007 10:50 AM

I wonder what the reporter, "Youssef Ibrahim", thinks of Islam, the Qur'an, and the Hadiths?

Posted by: remote_control at April 30, 2007 1:22 PM

Cancer also exports its malignant cells to infest outward, otherwise they would destroy the source tumor and not the host.

Saudi Arabia = tumor.

Jihadis = metastasis.

Cure = knowledge of both facts and the will to act.

Posted by: profitsbeard at April 30, 2007 2:04 PM

Good one Robert:

Only goes to show, payoffs don't work...like the old adage...
"Give the mouse a crumb, he'll want the cookie...give the mouse the cookie, he'll want a glass of milk...give the mouse the milk, he'll want a 3 course meal..." and on and on.

Now it's quickly becoming more than even they can handle...and without payola money, they turn on the payers. Follow the money...it's one of the keys to perpetuating their "jihad"...media is another one.

Posted by: jcom972 at April 30, 2007 4:32 PM

Mr. Spencer, yesterday's Jihadist is of course todays deviant when they start anarchy at home. America under Carter was quite happy to have them fighting Soviets and under Clinton butchering Serbs.

So it was not just Saudi Arabia which got the idea ok.....if you look at the credentials these are GLOBALISTS.

Now ask the REAL QUESTION on this site, why is it that a hack is attacking Saudi Arabia over arresting anarchists which the Globalists created????

Might it be the Saudi royals are a bit too tight with non globalists, are intent on getting back control over their money which is kept hostage in the globalist cartel banks and maybe because the Saud family is actually IMPLEMENTING A POLICY WHICH IS CUTTING OUT THE skimming operation the globalists have been doing in places like Iraq under Saddam.

It is far to easy to tar and feather the Saudi's when it was certain ruling bodies in America which put them up to most of this garbage.
Cover the full story and follow what is really going on and a different light shows up, because the above headline can more accurately read:

ROCKEFELLER PUPPET, CLINTON and CARTER'S JIHADI CHICKENS COME HOME TO PREY ON SAUDI'S WHO ARE NOT BOWING TO THE CARTEL.

PS: I am amused that a paper I wrote on this and published actually termed last year these Muslims as "deviants". It is nice to know the people governing have been reading what is posted.

Posted by: Lame Cherry at April 30, 2007 4:41 PM

ok Lame Cherry, what do you really think of the Saudis? lol.. oh well if they go down, could not hapen to better people.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at April 30, 2007 5:05 PM

“It is far to easy to tar and feather the Saudi's when it was certain ruling bodies in America which put them up to most of this garbage.”

“I am beginning to love D'Souza as my comic relief of the day and I thank you, Mr. Spencer.

The Big Double D is like Texas in the summer, it is too big, sprawls all over, you can't get away from it and it is full of hot air.”

“These 4 are so back alley they probably drive cabs at night to make a living as they pretend being Islamic intellectuals and poets.”

These are just a very small selection of Lame Cherry’s input, just a couple of snippets that’s all. I am not including the topics introduced with thanks to Lame Cherry.

The first is obviously taken from today’s post. The second I mention because it is clear Lame Cherry knows the difference between ‘to’ and ‘too’. The third is there because I like the idea of it and it sounds like lame Cherry.

The thing is I don’t think this is Lame Cherry. Maybe a brick to head collision has taken place while walking under scaffolding. Maybe somebody has inserted a mind controlling worm into an ear while Lame Cherry was sleeping? But unless there has been a revelation of satanic proportions I just don’t buy the sudden swing to the anarchistic new and definitely not improved Lame Cherry.

Of course I might be wrong, that’s nothing new.

Posted by: Mert at April 30, 2007 6:59 PM

"PS: I am amused that a paper I wrote on this and published actually termed last year these Muslims as "deviants". It is nice to know the people governing have been reading what is posted."

Lame Cherry,

Why not tell us where we can find this paper? It might be more enlightening than your post, which is beyond my comprehension. Your sentence structure is disjointed and it's hard to see where you're going.

If you want to blame the Carter and Clinton admins for the Saudi jihad in Afghanistan and Bosnia, go right ahead. No takers here.

Regardless of what their religion teaches, these people DO have free will. We know how they feel about infidels so it's hard to believe they were "pushed" into what they did.

It's more likely the Saudis seized on those two conflicts to rid themselves of people who posed a threat to the monarchy. They hoped the people would all die a martyr's death in Eurasia and were sorely disappointed when many came home.

Posted by: PMK at April 30, 2007 7:46 PM

PMK

I think I can add a couple factoids here (just from my own position, not meant to bolter anyone elses) as your general take is pretty accurate.

carter & clinton...I worked under both of them.
Apart from anyones animosity (there's plenty to go around, but it doesn't help the issue), they turned out to be empty suits on foreign policy.

Ever see the mini-series "Band of Brothers"?
See character Lt Norman Dyke...that was them.
They weren't bad commanders because they made bad decisions...they were bad commanders because they made NO decisions (where it counted).
Why so?:
They wanted guarantees of effectiveness or the deal was off...in this business, that's a pipedream-would be nice, true, but not practical.
They also treated such activites like terrorism as law enforcement issue, not combat issue...even when faced with the fact it was no less than outright war against us, and even when military was targeted.
I should know about both...not only did I vote for both of them first time around, only to regret it, but I was also in the loop when the infamous conference call came through (see the show "Path to 9/11"- the censored part was exactly the way it happend). I also took my retirement first time around when they decided to bomb Serbia-which I vociferously disagreed with (actually, most of us were against that balkan boondoggle from the beginning)-I didn't leave because of that alone, I left because that was the straw that broke the camels back, and that was the only way I could protest such lunacy. That's the raw data.

Your last paragraph is a bullseye (as is your 3rd one-a good blanket statement) about saudis usurping the moment to send their problem children elsewhere, regardless of who gets hurt, even their own "allies" like us. But apparently money isn't enough...thanks to our cutting off their funds, they're demanding more from the royal family,and in ever larger amounts (yes, seizing assets is doing terrible damage to the islamofascists).

Yes,PMK, your perspective about the saudis is on the right track.

Posted by: jcom972 at April 30, 2007 8:29 PM

Lame Cherry has posted two other atypical pieces on this blog today. It looks as though a piece of identity theft has taken place.

Posted by: wallyUK at April 30, 2007 11:39 PM

House of Saud, you reap what you sow, brotha!

Enjoy your serving, because the dog DOES sometime bite the hand that feeds it.

Posted by: ThinkForYourself at May 1, 2007 12:38 AM

Lame Cherry-

Unless I missed it you have yet to respond satisfactorily (or at all) to the inumerable assertions here that the KSA machine has been engaged in funding and promoting the most fanatical brand of Islam for decades. How about it? I think this is considerably more important than knowing who they play footsies with.

Normally I look forward to reading your out-of-the-ordinary epistles, but, as has been suggested, something seems different. I hope you morph back soon.

I guess we should feel sorry for the Saudis since all they have is oil and the ability to work a high-level meeting. Oh, and about 10 trillion dollars. No wonder they let their tentacles roam the world in search of cracks and weaknesses they can fill with the Spackle of Islam.

Posted by: lycaste at May 1, 2007 1:02 AM

Lame Cherry- You're dredging up ancient Jimmy Carter when there is video evidence of your buddy W. literally holding hands with Saudi royalty?! Bush did nothing to Saudi after 9/11 and I'm shocked you continue to defend him. Let this midget of a man sink into history's shame in his stocking feet muttering "Islam means peace" to himself.

Posted by: Bingo at May 1, 2007 6:02 AM

*ahem*

http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=28044

still, correct, jc has really gone off the deep end.
(it wasn't available until recently)

Posted by: jcom972 at May 1, 2007 6:15 AM