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Posted by: exsgtbrown at May 1, 2007 6:22 AM

It's premature without the body, just as premature calling an operation outcome before it runs its course...but there are things happening...(my brother is in the thick of it, as they always call his guys when they want things 'taken care of')...

...even the NY slimes had to (begrudgingly) admit to this, as noted by the author below, Ed Morrissey:

GOOD NEWS IN ANBAR

By Ed Morrissey

Just as the Democrats have raised the white flag on Iraq, the New York Times reports that the surge strategy has started paying off in Anbar. Shops have reopened, people have moved back, and everyone's challenging the insurgents except Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi (via Memeorandum):

Anbar Province, long the lawless heartland of the tenacious Sunni Arab resistance, is undergoing a surprising transformation. Violence is ebbing in many areas, shops and schools are reopening, police forces are growing and the insurgency appears to be in retreat.

“Many people are challenging the insurgents,” said the governor of Anbar, Maamoon S. Rahid, though he quickly added, “We know we haven’t eliminated the threat 100 percent.”

Many Sunni tribal leaders, once openly hostile to the American presence, have formed a united front with American and Iraqi government forces against Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia. With the tribal leaders’ encouragement, thousands of local residents have joined the police force. About 10,000 police officers are now in Anbar, up from several thousand a year ago. During the same period, the police force here in Ramadi, the provincial capital, has grown from fewer than 200 to about 4,500, American military officials say.

At the same time, American and Iraqi forces have been conducting sweeps of insurgent strongholds, particularly in and around Ramadi, leaving behind a network of police stations and military garrisons, a strategy that is also being used in Baghdad, Iraq’s capital, as part of its new security plan.

Life has not yet returned to normal, nor even close to it. Infrastructure still has yet to be rebuilt, and the loyalty of America's new allies still remains uncertain. What does appear certain is that this former stronghold of Ba'athist resentment no longer wants to exist in a cycle of oppression, liberation, and destruction. They want to end the fighting by eliminating the insurgents.

The question will be whether they stick with that in the face of an imminent American withdrawal. It has taken four years for Anbar to understand that Sunni domination in Iraq has ended and will not return, neither in the guise of Saddam Hussein nor in a military junta ruled by Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, the chief Ba'athist dead-ender. Now that they have finally pulled together with the US to oppose the increasingly lunatic al-Qaeda terrorists, we have lost the will to fight the insurgents ourselves -- or at least Congress has.

Government buildings and hotels are being rebuilt in Ramadi. Even the New York Times reports that violence has swiftly fallen in the region. Last summer, Ramadi had 25 terrorist attacks a day, and now it has dropped to four -- still too many, but with the expanded police force holding territory for the first time since the liberation, the momentum has clearly shifted. American troops have turned to civil-affairs work, trying to kick-start the rebuilding effort that will secure some semblance of peace among the Sunnis.

The growing security forces rely on the Americans to assist them in getting the terrorists that everyone wants driven out of Iraq. Without us, they would have to sue for terms with the AQI lunatics that would have them divided and fighting amongst themselves. If we leave now, we will destroy all of the work we have done to reach this point -- when even the Times acknowledges that we have finally begun to set the stage for success in Anbar and elsewhere in Iraq. Sunday, April 29, 2007

The left here is having a damned cow over this. lol
We'll see if the body turns up...but ops are going strong in the mean time.

Posted by: jcom972 at May 1, 2007 6:50 AM

dum, dum, dum....another one bites the dust

Posted by: eve_anne_gelical at May 1, 2007 7:37 AM

l heard on some radio show, that Biden D running for pres. wrote an article a few years ago, saying the US forces will be in Iraq for at least 10 years. now it seems Biden is doing the Democrat white flag of nameing the date of escape. With islamist killing each other faster than what any non muslim army could ever achieve, l say what the heck, stay and watch the fireworks, the islmaists are cleaning up
themselves quite nicely with the backing of the koran of course!

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at May 1, 2007 7:39 AM

Good news indeed and hopefully its only the start of something bigger. I'm just waiting for full-scale war between al-Qaida and Hezbollah. We know that such a war is inevitable. Let the games begin!

Posted by: Provoslavni at May 1, 2007 9:49 AM

The killing is a sign of stress an weakness.

Posted by: FreeSpeech at May 1, 2007 10:02 AM

I wonder if the killer has filed to claim his 5,000,000.00 reward which the US had offered for
Abu Ayyub al-Masri....

....7th century caravan raiders still look to make the quick profit...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at May 1, 2007 10:09 AM

by the way...

"His real name is Yussef al-Dardiri, he is around 38 years old and he comes from Upper Egypt," Montasser al-Zayat, an Egyptian lawyer and former member of the Islamist group Gamaa Islamiya, told AFP last year"

Posted by: exsgtbrown at May 1, 2007 10:22 AM

The Galula-ites will make much of this. They think that the fact that Sunni tribes, or some of them, have turned against, and are prepared to act against, Al-Qaeda is a sign of some great change. It isn't. There was always a division between the local Sunnis and the outsiders who came to join Al-Qaeda in Iraq. And if there is now a clash between them, that clash is to be welcomed but not given exaggerated importance (as one intelligent Iraqi blogger -- possibly one of the Fadhil brothers at Iraq the Model -- noted a month or two ago).

The American "counter-insurgency" experts around Petraeus, and Petraeus himself, need to focus on Islam, need to see the world-wide problem, and ask themselves how the outcome in Iraq can or can not contribute to weakening the Camp of Islam, both internally, through the sectarian and ethnic fissures that it offers, and would help to encourage elsewhere in Dar al-Islam, and through the spectacle of intra-Muslim aggression that it would offer Infidels as a Demonstration Project (akin to that going on in Gaza) of the behaviors of Muslims, in societies thoroughly suffused with Islam, and not held in check by a despot or a collection of despots (as the Al-Saud in Saudi Arabia), will naturally exhibit.

If they do so, they will stop making jejune pronouncements about the "laws of counter-insurgency" of the "on average, insurgencies last ten years" variety, and come to comprehend that Islam here is the key, Islam that explains why there is not one but many insurgencies, and that the only thing the various insurgents, the Al-Qaeda, the much larger population of Sunnis (including the Sunni tribesmen now being killed, and killing, Al Qaeda members), the Shi'a groups from those of Dawa and SCIRI to the lower-depths troglodyte Moqtada al-Sadr and his Jaish al-Mahdi, to the Kurds, with their own quite distinct interests. All of the Arabs (not the Kurds) share a common hostility, a permanent hostility, to the Americans -- a hostility that is rooted in Islam. At the moment, 98% of the Sunnis pollled support attacks on Americans, whereas "only" 70-95% of the Shi'a do so. Great.

When will Petraeus, and those who apparently think the "strategy" of David Galula in Algeria would have worked, "if only" the French government and people had allowed it (and that too must be factored in, must be understood -- the American people, though not its semi-demented government, do not wish to pour another few hundred billion dollars into Iraq, do not wish to see first the civilian army, and then the regular army, become ever more shredded and demoralized and relieved of its best potential recruits and its younger officers now leaving in noticeable and disturbing but quite understandable numbers).

Petraeus and those experts need to ask themselves, when they read something as shallow as Arthur Herman's attempt to liken the insurgency situation in Algeria faced by the French with that faced by the Americans in Iraq. they should not be delighted with such a piece, but ask themselves how an intelligent man could write something so oblivious to the very deep differences between the two cases, beginning with the fact that France had a million civilian French in Algeria and had ruled the country for 132 years, and its aim was to stay, and there was no larger context for it to consider, whereas in Iraq, the context is a world-wide Jihad, whose inistruments are not, pace Bush, only terror, but rather the money weapon (the ten trillion dollars received by Muslim nations from oil and gas sales since 1973), campaigns of Da'wa (carefully-targetted and well-financed, all over the Western world), and demographic conquest (which is finally being noticed, but with shrugs of despair, or pollyannish determination to ignore grim Islam-based realities).

Those who blithely assign, and blithely invoke, Galula or any other supposed magical guide or solution are jejune in their understanding, of Islam, of Iraq, of what in Iraq can be turned to our advantage, and what goals are attainable and make sense, and what goals are unattainable, and were they to be attained, would make no sense.

We need such people as these to be in charge in Iraq, and to start telling the truth to what appears to be a hallucinating, obstinate, semi-demented leadershp: Bush, Cheney, and those who insist upon doing their bidding, and repeating their every word of miscomprehension and terminal confusion.

Posted by: Hugh at May 1, 2007 10:29 AM

"I say what the heck, stay and watch the fireworks, the islmaists are cleaning up
themselves quite nicely with the backing of the koran of course!"
-- from a posting above

My. Yes, why not just spend another two hundred, or three hundred, or five hundred billion dollars, to "stay and watch the fireworks." We have all the money in the world, don't we? There is no need to spend that money on anything else, is there? Yes, a brilliant idea. Let's just keep 150,000 American troops who are heartily sick of Tarbaby Iraq right there, dodging I.E.D.'s, so that they can "stay and watch the fireworks."

"What the heck."

Disgust.

Posted by: Hugh at May 1, 2007 11:17 AM

We have the Saudi example for comparison.

The Saudis were (and are) content to export the jihad to other countries but are merciless with those who attempt to implement it on Saudi soil.

Everyone who thinks Anbar is proof that we are making progress and have made friends with the Sunni tribal leaders who are encouraging their people to join the local police forces must ask himself:

Are these Sunnis really deciding to give up jihad or are they perfectly willing to support jihad as long as it happens in someone else's neighborhood?

Is NIMBY the rule even for jihad-suppporters?

Posted by: PMK at May 1, 2007 11:32 AM

This was not infighting, but vigilante Muslim justice cleaning up a problem just like the American old west.

Mr. Spencer, why is hate speech allowed to be posted on this site when you cautioned others weeks ago to clean up their act in using terms against Muslims and were removing posts?

Yet above there is "hallucinating, obstinate, semi-demented leadershp: Bush, Cheney"

Why is it alright for people to write hateful things as long as they are part of the website heirarchy against Americans and yet you inform others to not say less vile things against Muslims?

All of that is rhetorical and if all one can do is call names, they have lost the arguement and if this site has lost the arguement of thought then what good is it doing.

Posted by: Lame Cherry at May 1, 2007 12:40 PM

Lame Cherry,

President Bush and Vice President Cheney are public figures. If you don't like what is being said about them then feel free to refute it. Show us why theirs is not "WHAT APPEARS TO BE hallucinating, obstinate, semi-demented leadershp".

No one referred to them in those terms. Why isn't their leadership subject to question?

Would you call Mohammad's religion "violent" or is that also hate speech?

Is all criticism now to be considered hate speech? Say good-bye to all meaningful exchanges and debate.

Posted by: PMK at May 1, 2007 12:54 PM

In a minute Lame Cherry I will talk to the alien worm inside your head, ok?

Lame Cherry look into my eyes, don’t look around my eyes. Just look into my eyes!

Now relax.

Don’t let the world impede on your thoughts. Imagine a cascade of pure water falling softly into a beautifully crisp and clear pool. As you slide into this pool you can feel your body relaxing, first your toes and then your ankles until all your body is submersed in a beautiful pool of calm.

Right now you b@st**d worm! Get out of Lame Cherry’s head before I have to go in there with a screwdriver and totally mess up your day!

Posted by: Mert at May 1, 2007 1:03 PM

Lame Cherry, It does seem odd Jihad Watch permits horrendous comments by Abdullah and other Muslims, but will delete our "over the top comments", and Marisol is especially good at deleting my comments. I suppose Robert wants to keep his reputation intact to lend credibility to his argument instead of having his name connected to hate filled tirades which is understandable. Sometimes it is difficult to stay restrained in such matters.

Anyway, I do hope this Al Masri is truly dead as he is the one who personally tortured, mutilated and killed our 2 captured soldiers last year. His brutality is something I will never forget or get over. I pray he has met his master in hell.

Posted by: Bonniea at May 1, 2007 1:07 PM

It's premature without the body, just as premature calling an operation outcome before it runs its course...but there are things happening...(my brother is in the thick of it, as they always call his guys when they want things 'taken care of')...

Someone maybe stole it for ransom.. LOL

Posted by: Allahfanculo at May 1, 2007 3:10 PM

If this story is true, I say goodbye and good riddance to vermin.

Posted by: callmeinfidel at May 1, 2007 5:54 PM

lmao allah:
Good one! You have a good point...it wouldn't surprise me at all.
Such actions remind me of "tweakers" (American slang for methamphetamine junkies) here...they'd steal anything for money, no matter how outrageously low they must stoop to accomplish such feat.
lol

Posted by: jcom972 at May 1, 2007 6:09 PM

This is unfortunate. From the Darwinian perspective, it allows for survival of the fittest. Given enough time, should the process continue unabated, there will evolve a breed of super-jihadist, each generation evolving more blood-thirsty and vicious than the next, in much the same way that mosquitoes became resistant to DDT.

Posted by: Mr. Slugworth at May 1, 2007 10:06 PM

Mr. Slugworth-

This kind of jihadi evolution doesn't work in the traditional "survival of the fittest" manner, since we are consciously eliminating the most dangerous element, and leaving the more tame variety. This is more like selective breeding for docility than random "natural selection".

At least that's the aim.

5% of any population are the "dominant minority" who will be the vanguard of all radical and militant efforts. They are self-selecting toward leadership, and, when you crush the head of this kind of violent movement, you rarely find immediate replacements AS dangerous, because that 5% is a constant that cannot be artificially stimulated.

So we have to keep vanquishing the maniacs who raise their heads above the parapets to scream "Allahu Akbar!"

It'll take a while, and the denial in the West about the seriousness of the Jihad is going to make the job harder, slower and more deadly for our side.

But the only alternative is: conversion, enslavement or death.

So, back to the battle.

And back to trying to tame beasts into men.

Posted by: profitsbeard at May 2, 2007 2:04 AM

Blah,blah,blah same old gobbeldy gook.

Lets see we have an administration that won't get out of iraq.Probably more for reasons that would affect Saudi arabia more than thier own good old U.S. of A. Or they are just too far gone into the course of trying to actually MAKE Iraq democratic.

Then when the elections roll around there can only be found the type of future representation that WANTS to get out of Iraq BUT wants to appease all muslims to the point of our anhialation.

While it's always good news that the muslims find time in thier busy murdering schedules to turn on one another please forgive me for not partying heartily because the track record of what islam is can be likened to an old well worn rut in a dirt road.

It is fleeting.

With the U.N. the way it is and the other "groups" that seem to know just what the world needs,continue to support and protect islam and terorism,the one and the same,then it's ground hogs day.

These EXACT same posts could be posted tomorrow and the next day and the next,because it has been the same for Palistine and Israel as it will be from now on with Somalia,Darfur,Spain,Europe and the U.S...etc.

If there were a turd and a muslim on an isolated island the muslim would figure out some way to destroy the turd in allah and muhammads name and claim the island.

We do need to get out of Iraq.We do need to quit funding the muslims wars with jizya.We need to stop funding thier immigration,let them have a job waiting if they wish to come here and with a set number of children they can have.Follow the laws and customs here or go back at THIER expense.

Our gov. amends laws and the like every stinking day.If they cannot find it in themselves to amend them for OUR protection and OUR way of life then they need to go and the next ones elected need to see the example of the previous.

Every word that comes out of some politicians filthy mouth is in favor for the immigrants OR ILLEGAL ALIENS.Not whats good for this nation.Why for instance don't we just take over mexico and be done with it? If they all want to come and go as they please?

The very hard and cold facts are that the problems we see today are brought about by the inaction of our leaders (the very same leaders for decades) and thier underlings to inforce laws that we already have.

As far as immigration goes it's just politics as usual,wait till the problem gets out of hand and then fight and quibble about the EASIEST and QUICKEST way to solve it.Right now there are an ESTIMATED 12 million ILLEGAL ALIENS in this country.I am willing to bet this is a very very conservative estimate.Not all are a threat but then again not all muslims are "extremists",or are they?

And if this is off topic or not a proper topic for JW then i fail to see WHAT IS.

Like i said blah,blah,blah.....so the immigration problem goes on and festers.....Iraq,Iran and islam,iraq ,iran and islam,iraq ,iran and islam....Oh ground hogs day you merciless beast for when where there ever be a tomorrow? Tomorrow? Tomorrow never comes.

The only way to end the rediculousness,this CRAP that disrupts the world is to blacken the heads from which comes this dispair.Words only feed it,give it legitamacy.Words prove it's justifications to them they say look at what these infedels say,even if we don't say it.I don't hear or see no large movement or proof that the same words for years,the same old words and rants have made a dimes worth of difference,for years,for decades even.

I mean give me a break.

Islam only understands one thing and they only live for one thing and that is death.Yours mine and thiers.Which would you have it be?

I will never trust a single muslim for as long as i live...ever.I am an islamaphobe to the freedomphobe.

I await the day for every drop of oil to be sucked from the ground because that day beggars they all will be.

Blah,blah,blah.....

Posted by: Dar al-harb at May 2, 2007 11:42 PM

By the way i forgot to mention my initial post was going to say,at least about the title,that whats the big news here.Sunni kill shiite and vice versa daily.Therfore jihadist kills jihadist.One just has more sway over the booty than the other.

The fact that some cockroach of a leader was killed only means some other cockroach of leader emerges from the woodwork.

Tomorrow (the ground hogs day tomorrow)the headlines could read "Killer of Al quaida leader in Iraq found tortured and murdered"...(infinity)

Posted by: Dar al-harb at May 2, 2007 11:49 PM