The important thing isn't whether or not he was killed, what's important is that the insurgents have grown impatient with al-Qaeda, and are now hunting them down.

Cheers,

http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com

Posted by: Doctor Bulldog at May 5, 2007 8:37 AM

P.S. - Sounds like Al Qaeda is doing some damage control in trying to deny that the other jihadist insurgents are "clashing" with them. Perhaps they fear other insurgent groups will target them if they feel emboldened...

Posted by: Doctor Bulldog at May 5, 2007 8:43 AM

The fact that it's audio-only gives the lie to this (and yes I do tend to think Bin Laden's probably pushing up the daisies, too):

a) If Al-Masri was still alive, they'd be anxious to show him off, if only to be seen as wrong-footing the Coalitiion.

b) As so consistently demonstrated, Islamofascists are never tooo far away from a camcorder.

I have to concur however, with Dr. Bulldog on the salient implications of this story.

Posted by: Un:dhimmi at May 5, 2007 9:06 AM

And while all this happens the British people give their exalted leaders a firm punch on the nose at the polling stations and another bunch of home made psychopaths get to spend a long time at Her Majesties pleasure. Britain is still here after ten years of Bliar and his Orwell’s guide to British politics. Today the council map of England is largely blue.

So why do I care if Masri is dead? He’s just one more nutter doing the bidding of his masters and there are a thousand more that would be happy to take his place.

As I see it a scumbag died and I’ll drink to that, but I wonder what would happen if the entire Muslim world was left to its own devices, left to suffer under this wave of hatred coming from their own kind. Could the Imams and their brainwashed thugs keep a billion Muslims under control using the practices of torture and hate AND destroy the West?

Remember that we are still fighting this war with our expeditionary forces after years of conflict, while they bleed each other dry from the children up.

Posted by: Mert at May 5, 2007 10:26 AM

I agree with you, "Mert," that the British people gave Labour a "firm punch on the nose" for letting in all the Muslims.

Not for any other reason but the Muslims. The British silent majority has spoken.

Posted by: darcy at May 5, 2007 10:55 AM

Ah, well, next time better.

Get those GPS coordinates, and cook this loon.

Posted by: profitsbeard at May 5, 2007 12:22 PM

hello all I am a longtime reader/lurker on this site and I am very appreciative of its existence I guess the reason I havent posted yet was anything I could say was already said better than I could say it.As far as the headchopper really being dead,I think if he was alive we would see him arrogantly proclaiming victory over the "Crusader Christians" in a video.

Posted by: tscipio at May 5, 2007 1:03 PM

On the subject of the recent UK elections: Muslims did not feature at a national level except for a widespread disenchantment with Blair, who rightly bore the opprobium for the manipulation of intelligence in the 'dossiers' issued prior t the Iraq invasion.The BNP literature that came through my door played on fear of East European immigration and not that of Muslims, although they may have tried a different ploy in other areas. They're fascists who promote racism and xenophobia wherever they can.
On a bizarre note: the Welsh nationalist party included a Muslim on their proportional representation list.Since Welsh nationalism is a particularly cultural phenomenon it's grotesque that they should associate themselves in any way whatsoever with someone adhering to an ideology that makes something of a speciality of eradicating local arts, literature and pride in history.

Posted by: wallyUK at May 5, 2007 1:14 PM

"It's a desparate attempt to divide the Jihadists."
Gee, I didn't realize that they were united in the first place, or are all those stories of bombings, shootings and murder we hear daily from Iraq just Infidel fabrications meant to destroy the good karma among the faithful?

Posted by: jewdog at May 5, 2007 1:21 PM

dont stop with this fool,there are plenty more that need to meet his fate,to get this struggle ended.

Posted by: chrisinsouthc at May 5, 2007 1:42 PM

OT but VERY IMPORTANT:

Here is the Video of the Mass Media Award given to Magdi Allam in Washington DC by the American Jewish Committee:

http://www.visualwebcaster.com/event.asp?id=39476

Posted by: Stefania at May 5, 2007 1:59 PM

Another dead Islamic terrorist! More to go! Next please!...

Posted by: The Resistance at May 5, 2007 2:46 PM

I agree with you, "Mert," that the British people gave Labour a "firm punch on the nose" for letting in all the Muslims.

Not for any other reason but the Muslims. The British silent majority has spoken.

Posted by: darcy

Yeah. Kinda like Americans kicking the Republicans in the ass for not doing anything about our borders (illegal immigration).

People get fed up.

Posted by: The Goobs at May 5, 2007 2:48 PM

Our recent election was about so much more than Islam Darcy, it encompassed every complaint from litter through the NHS to Muslim extremism. Thankfully Bliar has failed on all counts and therefore his party took a kicking.

But I stand by what I think about Masri, killing him is like sacking John Reid. It would be pleasant, but ultimately a useless exercise. There is always another member of the inner party ready to fill his boots.

The thing that has done for Bliar & Co is the political arrogance and lies. That and Cameron quietly letting them have enough rope to hang themselves. And so with jihad, we should give it all the rope it needs to hang itself, and then sit back and wait until its violent frenzy is subdued by its own side or becomes so unbearable that our public vote it out with rifles.

You can't win any other way. We will never shout them down in a forum because their moon god says they are right. We can't point out the enlightened path to the moderates because they don't exist in any meaningful way that can be communicated with.

Posted by: Mert at May 5, 2007 3:54 PM

Oh and hello tscipio :)

Posted by: Mert at May 5, 2007 4:00 PM

Mert

Where is your evidence for Islamic extremism being anywhere near an electoral issue? You just sound like another reflexive Blair-hater to me. The British electorate is tragically still in dhimmitude-induced denial (whipped up by the 'we live in a multicultural multi-faith society' PC fruitcakes) about the real danger we are in - but is at last showing vague signs of beginning to 'get it'.

Despite the hackneyed mantras you and others like you seem to trot out mercilessly about our Prime Minister (who in actual fact has done a rather good job for Britain in the past decade - look around you - we have the strongest economy in Europe by a country mile, high standards of living and even higer expectations). No, the reasons for our current 'targethood' lie mainly elsewhere. Blair is merely an effigy to burn.

We are at risk from Islamist extremism not because of Tony, but because of the hate-filled supremacist Mohammedan anti-culture that thrives on subjugating and oppressing its own hapless subjects then blaming their failed states on developed, civilised countries. Ones that value life. Ones like ours.

We are at risk from Islamist extremism because we we opened our arms a little too welcomingly half-a century ago when we needed abundant cheap labour.

We are at risk from Islamist extremism because we have ended up hosting 2 million people, mainly rooted in a primitive, tribal way of life completely incompatible with our own; and we still keep letting more of them come here. And we still keep fawning all over them.

Iraq is just one more reason to issue a fatwa.

You have to go a long, long way further back than A.C.L. Blair if you're looking for someone to blame for Islamic immigration and anti-British sentiment. Read a little history.

I bet you're a truther, too. ::rolleyes::

Posted by: Un:dhimmi at May 5, 2007 4:44 PM

‘It is a desperate attempt to divide the Jihadist ranks,

We need more attempts like that...'Desperate' is probably not ideal, but hey, whatever works.

Posted by: duh_swami at May 5, 2007 4:46 PM

it seems the other islamists are tired of alqaeda killing their own.
well if Blair's party gets the boot, hopefully the royal will lose big time in France, and perhaps the politicians can really listen to those people who do vote and pay their taxes.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at May 5, 2007 4:46 PM

Well, Zena, it looks like Royal (what a misnomer!) is going to lose! That is great.

Just like Labour getting the boot.

Posted by: darcy at May 5, 2007 4:56 PM

Look at the news my friend, what are the topics that have been in the face of everybody in this country who have access to a telescreen? Are you telling me that you will give me a pound for every time Omar Kyham and his friends have been on the news in the week running up to the election? Maybe you are telling me that the British public have fish length memories and have forgotten about the CH4 Imam documentary or the letter of complaint after the Atlantic bomb plot. Are you really telling me that over sixty million people forgot about Islam when they voted?

“Despite the hackneyed mantras you and others like you seem to trot out mercilessly about our Prime Minister (who in actual fact has done a rather good job for Britain in the past decade - look around you”

Yeah I am looking around me and I can see the end of the union for a start. I can also see a definite shift to a controlling state. Personally I have watched my parents close a perfectly good business because it was in the motor trade and all motor traders must be sacrificed in your perfect world. Regardless of the fact that over twenty odd years they have paid enough in to buy a tank for Tony.

“elsewhere. Blair is merely an effigy to burn.”

No everywhere he should be an effigy to burn.

“We are at risk from Islamist extremism not because of Tony, but because of the hate-filled supremacist Mohammedan anti-culture that thrives on subjugating and oppressing its own hapless subjects then blaming their failed states on developed, civilised countries.”

I agree but you need to show proof that Tony has done anything other than screw it up. If you can’t then I’m right to call for a change.

“We are at risk from Islamist extremism because we opened our arms a little too welcomingly half-a century ago when we needed abundant cheap labour.”

“We are at risk from Islamist extremism because we have ended up hosting 2 million people, mainly rooted in a primitive, tribal way of life completely incompatible with our own; and we still keep letting more of them come here. And we still keep fawning all over them.”

Are you making a point I haven’t?

Posted by: Mert at May 5, 2007 5:28 PM

Hmmm....the jihadi voice from the beyond? Guess he went from being a Holy Warrior to a Holy Ghost. I like 'em better that way.

Posted by: jewdog at May 5, 2007 5:45 PM

Did you get excited when Zarqhawi died Jewdog?

Posted by: Mert at May 5, 2007 5:52 PM

Lord Kinnock of Bedwellty, the former Labour leader, was appointed yesterday as a non-executive director of DRS Data & Research Services, a data specialist responsible for the Scottish electronic vote. The group's last set of published accounts revealed non-executive directors receive pounds 19,000 a year for their services.

Lord Kinnock became Labour leader in 1983 but was forced to resign in 1992 after losing the general election. He became a European Commissioner in 1995 and was Vice-President of the Commission between 1999 and 2004.

Funny that isn’t it? Labour in charge of the dodgy machines!

Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you!

Posted by: Mert at May 5, 2007 6:09 PM

Doctor Bulldog:
The important thing isn't whether or not he was killed, what's important is that the insurgents have grown impatient with al-Qaeda, and are now hunting them down.

Not really.
The important thing to realise is there are multiple factions in Iraq (At least 3).

The Sunni Iraqies got sickened with Al Queda's mindless violence against Shia Iraqies and as a result have betrayed them to coalition forces and the Iraqi Government

Posted by: UK Infidel Lover at May 5, 2007 7:19 PM

Doc,
No matter what we do they will always kill each other. The only reason they don’t kill Westerners instead is because we are few and hard to find unarmed unprotected and not within a team. In an islamist world killing, raping, torture, all manner of atrocities will be committed regularly and I mean all day every day. If that day ever comes as it has in some areas of the world right now, anyone wanting to survive will need to be ready to take these types out and not feel anything but the fact that they have saved an never to be known number of our own in the process. So for me taking them out before they do their dirty deeds, that’s the gravy, baby.

Posted by: tgusa at May 5, 2007 7:40 PM

Yes, Mert, I was pleased when Zarqawi checked out, though I really enjoyed watching some MEMRI videos of him, which are probably still available. That guy really had contempt for his enemies - Shiites, the US, Zionists, the British, etc. I see a parallel between him and Mohammed, in that he claimed that he had a divine mandate to kill his heretical foes. And isn't that the crux of the whole jihadist problem? It's just religion mixed with megalomania.

Posted by: jewdog at May 5, 2007 7:42 PM

Forgive me for asking but what exactly are the
Tories going to do about Muslim immigration?

If they get back in power my guess is that things
will just carry on as before.

We seem to have no viable alternative to the two
parties that swap power every now and again.

Yes the BNP are problematical but voting enough
of them into local government would have sent a
big hello message to the two main parties that
we are not happy with immigration, as it stands
what exactly was the message we sent with regards
to voting in the Tories who will after all do
nothing with regard to the immigration problem.

The message we sent was it's okay we don't mind
mass immigration because we know it's not very
high on the Tory list of things to do. Whereas
it's at the top of the BNP things to do.

I believe we missed a big opportunity and we just
might live to regret it.

Posted by: cadman at May 5, 2007 7:46 PM

Mert, Dhimmi

I dont agree with either of you two.

Mert:
Your thesis that the British people gave Blair a bloody nose in the recent Council elections because of unaddressed Islamic concerns.

Pardon me, but where is the evidence for this link? Blair has failed to deliver on many issues, the people could easily have given him a bloody nose for any of these issues. So far, I have seen zero evidence that Islamic concerns formed the basis of council voting. That might be true in Sheffield, Midlands.
You might be right, but I want to see evidence.

Mert:
Are you really telling me that over sixty million people forgot about Islam when they voted?

No - but I want to see the evidence that that formed the basis in their votes. Where is it?

Dhimmi:
Despite the hackneyed mantras you and others like you seem to trot out mercilessly about our Prime Minister (who in actual fact has done a rather good job for Britain in the past decade - look around you - we have the strongest economy in Europe by a country mile, high standards of living and even higer expectations).

I dont think Blair has done a good job.
Suppose you have a capable A-grade student.
And in a class of D-grade students he gets a C-grade. Is that a "good result" because it was better than the others? No, it is a poor result because he was capable of A-grade.

There are only 2-things I credit Labour with as good. And that is
- the freeing of the Bank of England in 1997. This is what made Britain prosperous (same system in America with Federal Reserve and Bundesbank in Germany). Why the Conservatives never did this beats me.
- the peace process in Northern Ireland.

But against this (and some of this is negative and positive Gordon Brown):

1) The unrestricted signing on the European Humans Right Act - we cannot protect ourselves now. That is Blairs fault.
2) The wish to sign us up to the Euro when the evidence is it is a disaster (Italy is likely to bounced out of the Euro), for Germany, France & Italy. Gordon Brown saved us. Did Blair learn nothing from the Conservative disaster in 1992 with the ERM. The Euro is bad news for all Europe.
3) Pumping money into the NHS without reforming it.
4) The Iraq war. No evidence of WMD.
5) No real plans for solving Britains transport problems. (Brown also backed PPP for London's tube when the evidence is that New York's bond system for the subway is superior)
6) Failure to build more Prisons in Britain
7) The arrogance of Blair trying to foist Frank Dobson on us as London's Mayor. Ken got in as a independent.
8) The £750 million Millenium Dome failure ($1500 million).
9) The increasing taxes of Labour from 32% to 40% over time.
10) The partial giving away of Britains rebate from Europe won by Thatcher, surrendered by Blair.
11) The social engineering of Education.
Labour have botched things up here, major.
For example requiring Universities to take poor students from comprehensives. The right thing to do is make sure comprehensives are as good as private schools like Eton and not lower University entrance requirements. It is also sickening to see Blair, Diane Abbott, Harriet Harman indulge in hypocrisy in advocating comprehensives for everyone else but then sending their children to private schools
12) The further surrendering to Europe of British powers by Blair.
13) The financing of Labours schemes bu money from Pension dividends. Yes this is Brown that did this - but it was on Blairs watch.

There is probably more, but under 10 years of Labour Government, only the economy is okay.
And it could be even stronger if it was nor made to suffer for Blairs botched socialist programs.
I can spend my own money better than Blair/Brown.

Posted by: UK Infidel Lover at May 5, 2007 8:03 PM

UK Infidel Lover,
You are right on target, except for number 4. No evidence of WMD,
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html
And besides that, are you familiar with the arab revenge factor,the one that says even if it takes a thousand years we will get you back? And after what we did to saddam in 91 do you think he would just blow a total humiliation off? This is not a court of law and if you use western ideals to play games in which we have to find the pea in the shell game you are liable to end up a headless corpse, and that’s no overblown hype. If that is fine with you go for it but don’t drag the rest of us down that horrid road.

Posted by: tgusa at May 5, 2007 8:35 PM

IT'S ALIVE!
IT'S ALIVE!

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at May 5, 2007 9:08 PM

Here's the evidence, UK Infidel Lover - the People voted Labour OUT. Any human with firing neurons and who knows about the dire Muslim situation in England knows by common sense that Muslim immigration is why Labour lost.

The proof is in the pudding.

Posted by: darcy at May 5, 2007 9:17 PM

darcy:
Here's the evidence, UK Infidel Lover - the People voted Labour OUT.

Yes they did, but for other reasons.
I have just checked media sources (some without left-wing bias)

Among papers, BBC, CNN, various blogs, newsgroups, none say the "dire Muslim situation" was a motivation.

It would be nice if was true.
But it is not yet on the radar.
It is just your wishful thinking.
So I stand by what I said.
So far, no evidence.

Posted by: UK Infidel Lover at May 5, 2007 9:43 PM

y has the signing in changed?

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at May 5, 2007 9:47 PM

So someone give me the breakdown on who won what, exactly, from a homegrown view. I and others in the USA are very interested

Also anyone know anything about the French election? I think that could be a turning point, a harbinger of what is to come.
You see, we Americans do care about what is happening in the rest of the western world.

Posted by: tgusa at May 5, 2007 9:51 PM

His being alive or dead remains to be seen, but what is amusing is yet another pot calling the kettle black (accusing others of splitting their "jihad" ranks), when his own ilk seem to be doing a good job of that, themselves...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2007/05/iraq_report_al_qaeda_leaders_t.asp

Based on previous patterns by his predecessor, it's a good bet he was, &/or, his ilk were, at least hit somehow, (aka, injured), and lashing out because of it.
We'll see how this pans out.

Posted by: jcom972 at May 5, 2007 9:54 PM

Whiners,
All of them. Videos, videos, and more videos. Shut up and fight buttheads. It is one thing to make war on other men, it is quite another to make war on woomen who attack us on TV and then hide behind civilians when necessary. The patience of the US military must be unbelievable. I salute each and every one of you and I thank God for your creation everyday, without exception. We are with you one hundred and fifty percent! Never forget, we won’t either.

Posted by: tgusa at May 5, 2007 10:10 PM

Glad you mentioned that about women...
see http://www.geostrategy-direct.com/geostrategy%2Ddirect/

Top headline...iran is training women for infil/exfil forces...but since it's no longer a secret...just another interesting point of interest.
(as I posted in another thread...it's a game of inverted "chicken"-the trick is knowing when to flinch...or in this case, when not to.)
It does require patience...and our military does have plenty of it.

Posted by: jcom972 at May 5, 2007 10:29 PM

Don’t ya know, there are no secrets any more, at least not to the wise. But keep up the great work I will try to shut up about what may or may not be secret, loose lips sink ships and all that.

Posted by: tgusa at May 5, 2007 11:13 PM

It’s worse than a game of inverted chicken, it is like fighting nothing yet everything at once. And let’s face it, you can’t speak about it and I know why, hell you are under assault from your own commanders, something that would never be dreamed of in my era. You could be in trouble for what you post even now... Now, Adams, Jefferson, Washington would give you a Medal... So who do you want to remembered as? I know. You may sacrifice your political views but that doesn’t mean you sacrifice your Bill of Rights! Believe me my ancestors were original Massasschuctts militia, freedom fighters from the beginning and they never would have taken that crap, shoot they complained about never being paid!

Posted by: tgusa at May 5, 2007 11:50 PM

Does it really surprise anyone that they are killing each other? Not me.

Posted by: Barry at May 6, 2007 12:06 AM

Washington is my guess. Or for the WWII history buffs out there the greatest of them all (received the Victoria Cross and the Iron Cross), Garbo. Now thats good!
http://www.geocities.com/garbo_spy/

Posted by: tgusa at May 6, 2007 12:40 AM

Well, let's just say no matter what happens...
keep the power dry...we may need it.
9 weeks to go (if the pattern continues to fit like it has been for some time) until showtime (his timing is a dead giveaway).

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=3143623

(if it continues to fit, we'll know on or around May 29th-I hope I'm wrong).

Posted by: jcom972 at May 6, 2007 1:05 AM

UK Infidel Lover - I realize that the Media is being PC.

It's definitely about the Muslims.

Posted by: darcy at May 6, 2007 8:33 AM

Vive La France, Sarkosy wins! Get ready for all hell to break loose or maybe not, they may be too frightened of him and hideout for awhile.

Zawahiri,
That guy is almost too ugly to look at, and that spot on his forehead, looks like a great aiming point to me. What he wants and what he is going to get are polar opposites. You could probably find him bunkered up under a girls madrassa in some islamist stronghold such as pak at least that would be where I would be looking first.

Posted by: tgusa at May 6, 2007 3:12 PM