...and spoke of converting to Islam.

The open door to excuses and dismissals, rather than condemnation, from the American Muslim community.

Posted by: PRCS at May 8, 2007 4:39 PM

uh oh...the old "good boy Muslim syndrome"....growing a beard and speaking kindly of Islam...openly looking for converts..covertly looking for weapons...

.ding...ding...ding....warning....warning....deja vu...deja vu....

See UK, See Spain, See Israel,See Turkey,ding...ding...

yep.. a good boy until he kills...and as he kills he screams allllaaahhh akkkkbaaar....

deja vu....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at May 8, 2007 4:40 PM

Darn it anyway. Try as I might, I just can't figure out the common link between these guys. I mean, Turks, Syrians and Albanians would never work together, right? No way. Must be the CIA or Mossad or something.

Posted by: Minority of One at May 8, 2007 4:46 PM

Maybe not Syria, Hot Air says Jordan.

Posted by: Minority of One at May 8, 2007 4:48 PM

The common link is Islam....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at May 8, 2007 4:52 PM

I thought these cats were illegal aliens - how did they go to high school here around 5-6 years ago?

Posted by: joeschmoe1000 at May 8, 2007 5:04 PM

"Darn it anyway. Try as I might, I just can't figure out the common link between these guys. I mean, Turks, Syrians and Albanians would never work together, right? No way. Must be the CIA or Mossad or something."

Minority of One,

No, it's that big brothel in the sky.

Posted by: rational at May 8, 2007 5:06 PM

i suspect they have drivers licenses, social security numbers, voter registration cards, credit cards and the phone numbers of stupid white chicks...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at May 8, 2007 5:07 PM

"We did teenage stuff. Drinking. Girls. Stuff like that."
-- from the article above

Real Americans. Practically Andy Hardy. Or The Bobbsey Twins. Or Archie and Jughead, Betty and Veronica.

Except -- inside that outwardly similar exterior (that drinking, those girls, "stuff like that"), there was Islam, and the universe viewed through the prism of Islam. Whether they were born into it, or converted to it in a Search for a Total Explanation of the Universe (and an instant community of brothers or bruvvas), doesn't matter. What matters is the belief-system of Islam.

Oh, and one more thing.

Bush keeps telling us "we have to fight them over there so that we don't have to fight them right here."

Has anyone noticed how often people have had to be picked up who are already ready, willing, and able, and what's more, actively plotting, to "fight us right here" and will continue to do so, whatever happens in Tarbaby Iraq?

Posted by: Hugh at May 8, 2007 5:17 PM

Mujahadeen used to hang out in Cherry Hill Park
The game they played lasted all day to way after dark
Now all the infidels they criticized them but all the Muhammadans just idolized them
Cause the Mujahadeen were such a thrill after dark, in Cherry Hill Park

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at May 8, 2007 5:39 PM

I e-mailed the Today Show and asked if in their coverage tomorrow they could use real words such as "Muslim" and "Islamic" and "Jihad" instead of "people" "suspects" and "men."

Well, the latter are "real" words too - but, you know what I mean! SPECIFIC instead of general.

Posted by: darcy at May 8, 2007 5:54 PM

This shit realy pisses me off! Why do we have to wait for them to come to us? I have been stewing in my hatred for these demonic scum since 1979 at a tender young age of 10 I remember clearly when this war began yet everyone sits around with their heads up their ass repeating the drivel "shitslam is a religion of peace" ,waiting for the next assault on the innocent. When are Americans going to organize themselves against this menace?,in spite of our stupid leaders.I am ready,but for what? to be put in jail by my own govt for defending whats right!Everyday something new and we all sit and take it,what happened to the warrior spiritof the West? ok enough questions that I already know the answer to.I live in Jersey and this is just one of many instances,hell Jersy City is a vipers nest full of the demons and so is Paterson.Note to self,when the shit hits the fan thats where you'll find me dammit!

Posted by: tscipio at May 8, 2007 6:09 PM

I was working in Cherry Hill today. It's a nice suburb of Camden/Philly. I'm not at all surprised these kids drove around in SUVs and whatnot. The "poverty causes jihad" nonsense just doesn't cut it.

Posted by: Jan Sobieski at May 8, 2007 6:16 PM

Ynkeedoodl2

LOL Here's another.

My name is Duka
I live on the second floor
I live upstairs from you
Yeah, I think you've seen me before.
if you hear something late at night...some kind kind of trouble, some kind of fight.
Just don't ask me what it was
Just don't ask me what it was,
Just don't ask me what it was.
We only hit 'till Dhimmis cry
After that, they won't ask why
They just don't argue anymore
They just don't argue anymore
They just don't argue anymore.

Posted by: freedomschool at May 8, 2007 6:35 PM

Those 6 muslims of albanian origin have been brainwashed by their local imam. What the fbi needs to do is infiltrate the mosque that they belonged to and keep tabs on the imam. If the imam is responsible, he should be deported. If he is a us citizen, he should lose his citizenship and be expelled out of the usa.

Posted by: callmeinfidel at May 8, 2007 6:39 PM

Yes Hugh it has been noticed.

It was noticed with the prescence of islam in whatever country they drag down.

The old "he was a good boy" or "he was just a normal kid in school" all depends on what is considered normal or what is considered a good kid.

Will the kids raised by "mickey the murderer" be considered "good boys" will they be considered "normal people?"

Will they one day make thier pilgrimage here?

Will we be able to allow them in fast enough?

Will we be advancing thier eduaction on ways to kill us with chemicals and weoponry at our universities?

At the first reporting of the type of education palistine gives it's most impressionable the WHOLE "international community" should have been there to stomp it out.

Instead it will be funded,if not by the west then by any islamic state that wishes to keep the front lines of the war with Israel surgeing.

Islam is breeding nothing more than empty shells of people with no reguard for life,anyones.It is bred in the islamic homeland and it is allowed to be funded here in the west.

"good guy/s" ,"normal guy/s".....so passe.

Wonder where these "upstanders" went wrong?it's a no brainer.

Why is it only muslims reaking havoc all over the world? It's a no brainer.

Why is it the leaders of today cannot reckognize the cause of the problems? NO BRAINS.

You see leaders of today didn't care to learn of history,they don't care about history.They only went to school to learn handshaking,advanced sell outism,appeasment for personal gain,backroom dealing and how to get away with it and a masters degree in lieing to fullfill personal agenda.

Who sets the guage for "normal people" or "good people"?

I thought we had a universal charter that all memebers were abliged to uphold? I thought we paid millions upon millions yearly to keep the world a smooth running machine?

Wasn't it the responsibility of the U.N. to see that "normal" and "good" became universal? At least for it's signatories?

I was only aware that those wishing to join the U.N. were those who were ready to join the U.N.Not those who would learn along the way to earn entrance into the U.N.

By this "group" failing to uphold it's own charter a long time ago it has created the alley ways for chaos to reign supreme.Terrorism has been allowed to become a "resistance" under humanitarian laws and not the crimes against humanity that it is.

When a nation or even a religion/political ideal is allowed to act out the way islam has done,with no consequences,it has been legitamized.

Since it abides by no rules of war save for it's own "find them wherever you can and kill them by any means",innocent or not.They deserve to be ejected from the U.N. and ANY other "normal" peoples "groups".They need to be thrust into a world only they wish to live in and left to rule themselves to death and when they step over that line that has been drawn into the sand.Well then they pay the price,not the rest of the world.

The west has given it the old college try.We need to step back and reinforce our own means of survival.If all these countries who continue to fall into failure after decades and centuries,who continue to breed more than thier "oppressed" economies can feed,leave them to that device.

We would do well to end immigration to make those who wish to live free to fight for it where they are.Where those who wish for more than they are alotted by the KING to fight for thier right to more.

Ending immigration would help us in the way that every politician rants on and on about how this country was built by immigrants.Yet we need more and more because it is legal for our children who learn about escaping responsibility and consequences to kill thier children.Now the "leaders" of this nation wish to make it okay for an under aged girl not to HAVE to let her parents know about her abortion.

But then i guess teaching kids not to have sex costs more money when you can use sex to sell things to kids,make money off of killing the unborn children.

Whose "good" whose "normal",who guages these things?

But then i ranted didn't i?

Does that make me "bad"?

Posted by: Dar al-harb at May 8, 2007 6:57 PM

Newsflash JW's - On the CBS Evening News Katie Couric actually said the word "Muslims" when addressing the Fort Dix story. She said "Six Muslims were arrested..."

I could not believe my ears! That word is forbidden for the Media to use! I was so grateful to hear honesty instead of PC'ness in Media language that I e-mailed her and thanked her!

In addition, the first reporter on this story said "Islamic radicals." He said "Islamic!" WOO HOO!

Since Katie Couric is the Managing Producer of the CBS Evening News, she deliberately decided to use the word "Muslims."

Anyone have thoughts on this momentous event?

Posted by: darcy at May 8, 2007 7:14 PM

I wanted to add that every pay check i recieve i look at it and can't help but wonder where in the world it will go that supports terror and how many it will cause to leave this world in the future.

I hold so many responsible for condemning me along side of them for thier atrocities.

Pelosi keeps harping on "the people have spoken".

Well i don't recall being asked to fund terror.

I don't recall being asked to help murderers kill.

I don't recall being asked to aid in raping women.

I don't recall being asked to aid in slavery.

I don't recall being asked to abet in spousle abuse.

I don't recall being asked to fund brainwashing of children.

I don't recall being asked to fund honor killings.

I don't recall being asked to abet in burning churches and synygogues.

I don't recall being asked to aid in genocide.

In fact i don't recall being asked anything except which idiot i would choose for a leader.Idiot 1 or idiot 2.

My answer BUTT CRACK JOE THE PLUMBER.NO IDIOTS NEED APPLY!

Posted by: Dar al-harb at May 8, 2007 7:14 PM

Ahh, those crazy kids heck they grew up as typical teens. Hell I grew up as a normal youth,hunting,girls,fishing,girls,working,girls,skateing,girls. But never ever wanted to commit jihad. If and when these scumbags are found guilty they should be inprisoned for 30 years. Wake up America!

Posted by: AMartinez at May 8, 2007 7:14 PM

whatever happens in Tarbaby Iraq? ,

actually the military being in Iraq and Afganistan is causing the islamist to act quicker before their women can explode into more muslim babies like in Europe, ie slow bleed of social network of working ifidels. this is sort of a "quickning" bringing the islamist threat faster so we can take them down faster instead of than waiting like those in Europe.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at May 8, 2007 7:20 PM

NPR keeps reporting that they had no ties to O.B.L. or any other terrorist organization.

Boy!What a relief!

Posted by: anonamustafa at May 8, 2007 7:29 PM

maybe NPR should label it "SJS" sudden jihad syndrome, it can happen anywhere, anytime, but you need pious muslims for the fuse to go off.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at May 8, 2007 7:35 PM

What the fbi needs to do is infiltrate the mosque that they belonged to and keep tabs on the imam.

In spite of the billions being spent since 9/11, there is squat spent on language. What will a lily white boy in a bad suit and white socks learn in a mosque? The argument used to be that it took about 5 years to bring an arabist up to speed. Well, it has been six years since 9/11, 16 years since the gulf war..... People need to go to jail over this.

Posted by: infidel! at May 8, 2007 7:44 PM

Since Katie Couric is the Managing Producer of the CBS Evening News, she deliberately decided to use the word "Muslims."

Anyone have thoughts on this momentous event?
Posted by: darcy

Umm... let me think.. she needs ratings?

Posted by: Allahfanculo at May 8, 2007 7:49 PM

dar-al-harb

Where I live (STL) the St. Louis Post-Dispatch just today ran (front page) another Dhimmi story (not their words) about why they hate us..we're not doing enough for their hearts and minds..ie ..not enough GOOD coverage about USA efforts after the Tsunami in Sumatra..as in WE didn't supply the coverage (who would have read it), and the beat goes on..check out..stltoday.com for the rest of the blechh..my point in response to your post..I'm thankful to Robert to occasionlly post and with my interest in astrononmy hereby suggest that male adherents to Islam volunteer for space shots to the moon, mars, venus, whatever..as they could have their DNA cloned prior to launch (Korea?), arrive in an arid area, stones, dust etc..beat their chests on arrival (2001 Kubrick style)..any stone of choice Kabaa..Regards

Posted by: nodak at May 8, 2007 7:50 PM

Nodak - the St. Louis Post-dispatch apparently shares the philosophy espoused by my local rag, the Baltimore Sun. the Sun, a mere shadow of it's former self, loses readers every week, and soon will blow away. If you subscribe to the Post-dispatch, consider dropping it. Paying for it will only encourage them. Burn, baby burn.

Posted by: MP at May 8, 2007 8:00 PM

Those 6 muslims of albanian origin have been brainwashed by their local imam. What the fbi needs to do is infiltrate the mosque that they belonged to and keep tabs on the imam. If the imam is responsible, he should be deported. If he is a us citizen, he should lose his citizenship and be expelled out of the usa.
Posted by: callmeinfide

Let's be precise. Those four Albanians, one Turk and one Jordanian have been brainwashed by non other than the US media.

Perhaps Madeline Alright should be deported for taking the position that a civil war in Yugoslavia, where all sides committed massacres and war crimes against civilians was a genocide by one side.

Posted by: FrankLev at May 8, 2007 8:10 PM

Darcy, Fox News used the term muslim, this morning in tearms of this story. While listining to Neal Boortz even he said it was a surprize the used the term. And he said watch the other new company's will follow suit. Whammo, they have and did.

Posted by: AMartinez at May 8, 2007 8:13 PM

Sorry for the bad spellin, good beer.

Posted by: AMartinez at May 8, 2007 8:15 PM

A good article to (re)read is this one about the 'moderate' muslim:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004034.php

Posted by: R_not at May 8, 2007 8:23 PM

good beer ....heh,heh,heh

Posted by: MP at May 8, 2007 8:25 PM

"Alleged radicals were typical teens"

And now they're typically arrested and charged.

I just got online. Have we heard from CAIR on this story? Have they issued one of their scripted statements yet?

Posted by: DCWatson at May 8, 2007 8:46 PM

Are we or are we not at war with Islam? If we are, then we should adopt winning tactics. The most effective measure would be to sieze the Mideast oil fields, since they are vital to the Global Jihad. Didn't we bomb the Poesti oil fields during WWII to deny them to the Nazis?
Or, are we at war with some extremists?
I agree with Hugh about Tarbaby Iraq, but if we just pull up stakes the oil will fall into the hands of Islamists and they will exploit that resource. We must not allow that to happen, whatever we do in Iraq. No money, no jihad.

Posted by: jewdog at May 8, 2007 8:58 PM

Thank Bill Clinton for this debacle, he was the one who got 30000 Albanians "asylum" in US during conflict in Yugoslavia. I knew then that this was a huge mistake as Muslims allways bite the hand that feeds them and imagine residents of Cherry hill, NJ...paying taxes, obeying laws, find themselves paying for Muslim "refugees" from Albania through their tax dollars, have Albanian's kids go to school with their kids on their dime and then to turn back and conspire to blow their benefactors up. That my friends is the betrayal of our American values by the corrupt politicians who so casually play with lives of law abiding citizens.

What a shame!

Oh By the way did liberal media ever mention that it was "Muslim Albanians" who started the conflict by massacring the Serbs in Kosovo.

Posted by: ringostarr at May 8, 2007 9:24 PM

Most of us know that 'fight then over there, so we dont have to fight then here', is a nasty form of political bile.
How many attacks has the US suffered, on its soil, by one or two muslims acting with only Allah as their guide? Eight, nine, some we dont know about, and now this...THEIR HERE...THEIR TROUBLE.

Stop calling Islam a religion.
Take away the tax exemption, US, of any mosque where the Imam is teaching/preaching any kind of hate, advocating jihad, or any other violence, or funding it. Or allowing others to use it for those purposes.

Make it as difficult as possible to get building permits for new mosques.

Eventually close all mosques as a danger to the community...

Posted by: duh_swami at May 8, 2007 9:28 PM

Wonder if this little P-rick will get a visit from the feds?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016292.php

Posted by: interestinconundrum at May 8, 2007 10:47 PM

"If these people did something, then they deserve to be punished to the fullest extent of the law," said Sohail Mohammed, a lawyer who represented scores of detainees after the 2001 attacks. "But when the government says `Islamic militants,' it sends a message to the public that Islam and militancy are synonymous."

"Don't equate actions with religion," he said.

Say what? What planet is this guy on?

Posted by: DCWatson at May 8, 2007 10:49 PM

I've actually heard "Muslim" used on the local news station here in NYC in connection with this story. FINALLY. Well, we'll see how long that lasts.

Meanwhile, I couldn't help but laugh when a kid was interviewed who knew one of the jihadis. He said, SERIOUSLY, that he was so surprised 'cause, you know, the guy seemed so .... religious!

Laughing so hard I could cry.

Posted by: Vee at May 8, 2007 11:52 PM

Tired of this Shiite. As Islamic influence grows within our society the political discourse will more and more look like war, because that is what is going on … this isn’t political discourse between fellow citizens. This is the beginning of civil war within our own borders. This is not a few nut jobs … this will not just go away …ever. You can not just turn this on and off. Once Jihad is called against you it isn’t over until you are wiped out or you crush the will of the Islamic world. This will be a war of centuries and ideas not states and armies. At this point time is not on our side. We are ill equipped to fight this war. Hobbled by guilt from the past and high minded political correctness most are prevented from even conceiving of the threat we face. Those that can and are educated on the subject face an uphill battle influencing society one bit at a time. What we will have to do will look a lot like what happened to the Japanese during WW2. Since these people have no desire to work with us to combat the problem they will fight, and since the context of this will not be half a decade …. Well you draw your own conclusions about what this will look like. One thing is clear to me though. We can not have a separate society within our borders at war with us … hiding. This will lead to anarchy for sure Americans will not be hunted in our own land, and since it is impossible to tell good Muslims from bad Muslims, you must assume they are all bad. You know the old one bad apple rule. When it goes down it will be ugly. Like the tootsie pop commercial … how many licks to get to the chewy center. Only the licks are attacks, and the chewy center is the point of no return.

Posted by: Ameriki at May 9, 2007 2:30 AM

Catherine has posted two links regarding bio-fuels in her posting above. The second link is the about a U.N. report that contains the following remarks -

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/5/8/160300.shtml?s=lh

"But environmentalists have warned that the biofuel craze can do as much or more damage to the environment as dirty fossil fuels - a concern reflected throughout the report, which was being released Tuesday in New York, by U.N.-Energy, a consortium of 20 U.N. agencies and programs.

While saying bioenergy represents an "extraordinary opportunity" to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, it warned that "rapid growth in liquid biofuel production will make substantial demands on the world's land and water resources at a time when demand for both food and forest products is also rising rapidly."

The first paragraph says that "environmentalists" are sure that biofuels cause as much damage to the environment as dirty fossil fuels. I personally used to make my own biofuel up till last year from waste vegetable oils and I can testify that the pollution was minimal since there is little or no carbon content in biofuels. This can also be verified scientifically in laboratories, I am sure. And we do not have to worry about "food oils" being used for producing biofuels ; we can make biofuel using waste vegetable oils and we can also run our vehicles on ethanol with minimum change in our engines. I smell saudi bribes here.

Posted by: arjun.sevak at May 9, 2007 3:46 AM

ot, but, country bumkins tried to make bio fuels and discovered "white lightning"..you can get tanked up with this stuff....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at May 9, 2007 7:10 AM

This is called white al-Qaida. Balkan muslims, Albanians in this case (but, sometimes even of Slavic origin - nowdays "bosniaks"), blend perfectly in any western society as "Yugoslavs". They have old Yugoslav passports. Thats why they look like "normal guys", they're not Arabs.

Serbian friends have warned us of this years ago. Local security and inteligence servicies have piles of evidences on this.

Now, when this truth finally surfaced and US Dhimmis from previous democratic administration can't shelter enemies any more as "friends of US", I hope that it'll be delt with as it should 10 years ago.

Posted by: WallsofByzant at May 9, 2007 7:46 AM

Catherine and arjun, you are dead on. This is trumped up research that has bet thoroughly put down by serious scientists.
Have you also heard the charges that the US using biofeuls would starve the poor of the world. Guess what Jihadists? If you destroy the USA, YOU WILL Starve!
What poppycock, ask any midwestern farmer how much he gets paid by the feds NOT to grow crops on some of his land.

Posted by: auntbea at May 9, 2007 7:59 AM

First of all. Why does the MSM still think people buy these stories?
They must think we are absolute morons and it is beginning to have the opposite effect than they are looking for.
People are starting to think if the nice normal (Muslim) guys and gals can cook up stuff like this I guess we can't trust any of them!
Not a place I think CAIR wants to go.

Shain drove a Cadillac Escalade SUV.

One more thing. I don't view this as a typical teenage car. Am I alone here?

Posted by: auntbea at May 9, 2007 8:05 AM

The only thing " Typical " about Muslims is their capacity for violence. It's like the Manchuraian candidate or something. the more they teach you about Islam and Mo's Violent ways the easier is is to activate their agents of Death when needed.

I can't and won't trust anyone who subscribes to Islamania.

Posted by: MoBlows at May 9, 2007 2:17 PM

They may have once been 'typical teens' just as the UK homegrown bombers were once considered normal but

"According to Sufi leader Sheikh Muhammad Hisham Kabbani's testimony before a State Department Open Forum on January 7, 1999, extremists have taken over "more than 80 percent of the mosques that have been established in the U.S. ..."
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6178

So...

Unrestricted internet acess to islamic Jihad filth + hooking up with a 'nice Saudi sponsered mosque' = clay in the hands of al Queda

Posted by: GreatShaitan at May 9, 2007 2:42 PM