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CTV finds one of those awful radical websites
This CTV video (click on "Watch This Video"; thanks to Sr. Soph) about a young Muslim in Canada who went to Afghanistan to become a jihad/martyrdom bomber says he became a jihadist by reading "radical websites like these" -- and then pictures, first and foremost, Jihad Watch, followed by one actual pro-jihad website.
Every now and then I get emails, usually from Pakistan, from Muslims wanting to join the jihad. And on occasion I even get emails from furious non-Muslims denouncing jihad and telling me that my fellow jihadists and I will not prevail.
But from CTV it's another thing. Here is a supposedly reliable news source, taking the trouble to capture and feature a screen shot (unfortunately, I was unable to get one for this post, but it showed the upper left of the main JW screen, with the "Terrorism Awareness" button in prominent view, and part of the headline from a post yesterday, "Florida doctor admits support for armed jihad") without troubling, obviously, to read even a scrap of the content here. I understand that "Jihad Watch," "Terrorism Awareness," and "Florida doctor admits support for armed jihad" could all be pro-jihad elements at a cursory glance, but isn't a mainstream media news source supposed to be more than cursory? Be careful? Check things once, check things twice?
UPDATE: Screenshot added, courtesy Jihad Watch reader XLMZ.
Posted by Robert at May 13, 2007 7:44 AM
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Yup, it's one look at that bearded radical, Sheikh Osama Bin Spencer and his evil sidekick, Abdou Hugh, and it's off to Wazzupstan for the jihad.
The imam tried to stop him, since he had misunderstood the whole concept of jihad, sort of like how the reporters got this site a little wrong. Coming to you from Calgary, Pakistan.
at May 13, 2007 8:26 AM
The good news is, in a world so confused, we posters are in no danger of making any kind of anti-jihad watch list.
Maybe CAIR won't even pay attention to what we say if they think we are FOR the inner struggle.
I guess I can get out of the fetal position I had to assume when Jinxed called me a Muslim-basher. And even extended the bigotry charge to my parents for not apologising for the Japs and Jerry's in WWII.
Oh yeah sitting up straight is much better. LOL
at May 13, 2007 8:54 AM
Mainstream media news source supposed to be more than cursory? Be careful? Check things once, check things twice?
I think your screen shot was deliberate. You have the word "jihad" extra big, and
I'm sure true radical "Jihad" websites are all in Arabic.
Mix a screen shot having the extra big word "Jihad" with a Arabic site and you are sure to get the viewers attention.
My guess;
They knew full and well "Jihad Watch"
is not "pro-Islamic" and a "Come Join Jihad" website. They used it for the effect, not caring if they lumped you with "Jihad".
at May 13, 2007 9:52 AM
No, don't you see? Dinesh D'Sousa says moslems will go all jihadi by reading that they are supposed to fight the unbelievers, if RS didn't tell them...they would never think about jihad. Got it now?
Posted by: interestinconundrum
at May 13, 2007 9:53 AM
If you ever want to cause a scene at an airport, just pull up Jihad Watch on your laptop... Two times in the past I have been questioned by TSA agents... But, they calm right down when when they finally realize it is not what they thought...
Cheers,
http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com
Posted by: Doctor Bulldog
at May 13, 2007 10:16 AM
Clearly and purposely OT......
Happy Mother's Day to all you Mums out there.
at May 13, 2007 10:36 AM
I’m…feeling…radical…
2:10 Disbelievers are diseased.
2:99 Disbelievers are evil people.
2:104 For disbelievers is a painful doom.
2:171 Disbelievers are deaf, dumb, and blind.
3:28 Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference of believers.
3:73 Don't believe anyone who is not a Muslim.
3:48 Don't be friends with non-Muslims. They all hate you and want to ruin you.
4:89 Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.
4:63 Oppose those who refuse to follow Muhammad.
4:101The disbelievers are an open enemy to you.
4:144 Do not choose disbelievers as friends.
5:51 Don't take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.
5:51 Jews and Christians are losers.
5:60 Allah turned unbelievers into apes and swine.
5:59 Jews and Christians are evil people.
5:57 Don't choose Jews, Christians, or disbelievers as guardians.
6:106 Stay away from disbelievers.
8:55 The worst beasts in Allah's sight are the disbelievers.
9:5 Slay the disbelievers wherever you find them.
9:28 Disbelievers are unclean.
9:30 Christians and Jews are perverts. Allah himself fights against them.
Bring on the sunlight. Lots of it. Hoping things will work out is not a strategy. See Pakistan. And Happy Mother's Day too.
Posted by: pez
at May 13, 2007 10:52 AM
Unaware people are just plain stupid. A few weeks ago I told someone I study Islamic terrorism and he looked at me like I was nuts and said I scare him. I think he thought I was studying to be a terrorist instead of studying what they do so I can be more aware and have a better understanding of how they operate, etc. Every American needs to be made aware of the dangers Islam poses to our world.
Posted by: Bonniea
at May 13, 2007 11:11 AM
Congratulations! Check your mailbox. You may have just qualified to start receiving gimungous amounts of money from a certain oil-laden nation on a certain peninsula.
Posted by: special_guest
at May 13, 2007 11:21 AM
This story is emblematic of the sweeping, and I believe deliberate Orwellian obfuscation which is intended by the severe Western critics of JihadWatch, and their Muslim cohorts in virtually all Muslim "Civil Rights" organizations (read C.A.I.R., MSA, etc) They both serve their respective and deceptive agendas by doing so, and impede the proper spread of sound accurate information about the truth and spread of Jihad -- and they muffle the alarm bells that should be sounding around the world as the cancer of Islam metasticizes and grows.
Their intentions, whether it's the Ralph Peters or the world, or the Dinesh D'Souzas, or the Karen Armstrongs, from the "infidel" lands, or out and out terror apologists like Dean Esmay, and virtually every Muslims spokesman (except for the oddest among them -- the Muslim constituencies of one like the syncretist Thomas Haidon), their intentions are the same:
Smear JihadWatch.org as a "Hate Site" -- smear sites like littlegreenfootballs.com as a "Hate Site", smear sites like FrontPageMag.com as a "Hate Site", and confuse and manipulate the truth to serve their respective dogmas -- dogmas which are better served by keeping the truth about Islam muddied and obscured -- dogmas which are threatened by the exposure of the threat Islam poses to us all, and the magnitude of the spreading cancer both without and within our priceless home in the West.
Subverters. Liars. Obfuscators. Craven fools.
Posted by: jsla
at May 13, 2007 11:21 AM
Maybe this will help...
Wildfires rage in Western Canada
Fuelled by heat, winds and lightning
CanWest News Service
Out-of-province firefighters rushed to British Columbia on Tuesday to help battle two wildfires, including one raging on the doorstep of Tumbler Ridge in the province's northeast, and to stamp out smaller fires before they spread.
"Our resources are stretched," said Radha Fisher, a provincial fire information officer. "The province is hot and dry throughout. It is in high danger and there is potential (for more fires) everywhere."
Meanwhile the radical website JihadWatch is calling for special prayers for rain.
Posted by: freedomschool
at May 13, 2007 12:50 PM
If there was an "iq" test for reporters and media, they would all fail, along with politicians, lawyers, most that is. We the People know better who have read "JihadWatch".
Hope all the readers and JW Staff's mothers have a great Mother's Day! too bad the islamists cant join in as they are too busy killing their mothers and mother's childrens.
at May 13, 2007 12:54 PM
CTV had me guesing that this shahid wannabe was a muslim even though they ommitted his name and religion. I liked it how they refered to him as a "Canadien" while refusing to disclose his ethnic backround. According to their protocols, if the pertentrator doesn't match the profile as a white supremist, then he is not qualified to be debunked. In fact, the media out of their heartfelt sympathy for the devil, looks for an explanation for his behaivour, incriminating the jihad websites where he got his radical views from rather blaming him.
Posted by: Jew Chick
at May 13, 2007 2:46 PM
Unexpected consequences, they attempt to smear JW purposely. But if you are watching and are curious seeing an English website not some Arabic mumbo jumbo you might visit JW and providing you are not stupid you would figure out what it is all about, in reality. It does two things, it directs traffic here and it shows the medias deliberate manipulation of their viewers. It really is like some hideous sci-fi movie where an evil shadow organization has taken over peoples brains, manipulating them into an alter reality so they can rule the globe.
Posted by: tgusa
at May 13, 2007 3:40 PM
My mouth dropped, NO WAY! What? They are interested so therefore they do not want people reading the truth! That is not what our soldiers died for! It was for, so we can do and say what ever the hell we want! Isn't that what they are doing? Who is controlling them, and why in the hell are they trying to control this? When they are so caught in lies and they say nothing to the public but play them commericials you only can eat food if it talks to you! They want to control everything another islamiszm!
Posted by: MZ
at May 13, 2007 4:18 PM
Radical Islam is alive and well in my hometown of Calgaristan!
Posted by: The Resistance
at May 13, 2007 4:27 PM
be careful what you post on jihadwatch. the FBI are monitoring us.
Posted by: leonthepigfarmer
at May 13, 2007 5:05 PM
Thanks for the tip leonthepigfarmer
My response…
To the FBI ….. do your frigging job.
The one you took a pledge on.
REMEMBER !!
Yes, that’s right, the one where you swore to protect us.
Protect us from arseholes that take our hard earned principles of freedom and use them as a weapon against us.
Where are you ?
For Christ sake DO something….protect us.
Or are you too busy hunting down politically incorrect ( truth tellers ) dopes like me.
Wouldn’t we all be better off if you concentrated your efforts on the real threat.
Sending out an SOS, PLEASE RESPOND
at May 13, 2007 5:58 PM
Robert - I so much wanted to see the video unveiling you as the radical dark and subversive influencr that you so clearly are ;)
Just wondered how you managed it on your Mac? I got a 'message' from The Beast Of Redmond telling me I needed Winblowz!
Ah well...
Posted by: Un:dhimmi
at May 13, 2007 6:06 PM
"To the FBI ….. do your frigging job"
my thoughts exactly.
Posted by: leonthepigfarmer
at May 13, 2007 6:11 PM
OK- excuse me- FBI I have been trying to tell you guys that if you look at the thumbnail picture of Jose Padilla and the thumbnail of John Doe #2 and you hold them over each other to the light, it is a match! Never seen one so good! Even if you switch them around! He is John Doe I say alledgedly!
Posted by: MZ
at May 13, 2007 7:18 PM
Just a bunch of wanna be Crockodile tamers.Good luck with that ....idiots!!
In a sense though they are about half correct.It IS a jihad against jihad.
The difference being anti jihadists don't go around killing innocent people,or anyone for that matter.Unless of course it is to defend themselves,even against kids with knives and swords.
These fools have just taken JW "out of context".
These idiots are racist and profilers and all the memebers and administration of JW should worry endlessly about "backlash".
We should all contact our political representatives immediately and lobby and demand that computers be accessable EVERYWHERE,free of charge,so we can log into JW.It has after all become OUR religion or if nothing else our RIGHT.
If one can invent religions that allow one to do as they please then we should ALL be allowed this luxury.All i ask is that when it comes time to write the verses of how to take a crap,please oh please,allow me to add some input.I know where the crap should go!
Like i said the idiots that wish to be fed to the crocodile last....are just idiots.
Screw 'em all.
Posted by: Dar al-harb
at May 13, 2007 7:35 PM
With regard to Robert's point that a mainstream media source is supposed to be more than cursory, what about leading political figures in the West whose understanding of Islam and the Islamist threat is cursory or superficial in the extreme? For example, David Cameron, leader of the Conservative Party in the UK, says that the terms 'Islamic terrorism' or 'Islamist terrorism' are a form of 'rascism' and 'soft bigotry'. Read Melanie Phillips' commentary on David Cameron's idiotic remarks on the 'soft brainlessness of denying Islamist terror' here:
http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/?p=1514
Little wonder that the civilised world appears to be loosing the fight against Islamic extremism when it is blessed with political leaders of the calibre of David Cameron.
Posted by: The Northumbrian
at May 13, 2007 8:50 PM
What was the URL of the other site? The "real" one promoting Jihad. Did anyone catch it? I can't view the vid and don't want to bother downloading the necessary stuff...
But I would like the URL if anyone knows about it or other sites promoting this kind of crap...
Posted by: computernerd
at May 13, 2007 9:28 PM
About the URL -- on the video the website name, etc., is obscured. It features a picture of Osama and Number 2 (the fellow with the growth on his forehead), and a banner which says: "youth page".
Memri.org has a feature in which they monitor jihadist, extremist websites...might want to check there...
Posted by: J.S.
at May 13, 2007 10:19 PM
Similar to what Internet Haganah found elsewhere.
(see May 13 entry)
http://haganah.org.il/haganah/
Looks like an islamist version of an "I Want You!" poster. (a clear sign of desperation on their part).
Don't worry Robert, the most notorious militant labellers who spew their vitriolic diatribes like this are the same ones who don't even bother to read the contents.
Don't be surprised, either...you're not the first, and won't be the last.
Keep up the good work, and ignore the ignoramuses.
Their reaction is a clear and unmistakable sign your efforts are succeeding.
at May 13, 2007 10:54 PM
Aha! Spencer, you have been exposed at last. Your vile site has for years provided Jihadis with scriptural justification for their evil deeds when their only other source for information, the main steam media, has insisted that no such justification existed.
It is you, Robert Spencer, who are responsible for the acts of the poor deluded souls that your despicable site has goaded into violence.
I'll bet you're proud of yourself!
/Sarc off.
Thank you, Robert, Hugh and all of the crew. Your tireless efforts are greatly appreciated by those of us who love Liberty. Take good care of yourselves.
Posted by: USBeast
at May 14, 2007 12:26 AM
About the FBI... I do hope you guys are on the side of the good guys. You know the USA, the country that writes your paycheck.
You can find all sorts of information about islam at
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/
And while you guys are at it, you should look at some of the subversive posts at You Tube....the Khalid Muhammad comments are particularly rabid, you know the "kill 'em all" type thing....now, go get the ones who want to enslave even you.
at May 14, 2007 12:47 AM
As a Canadian I find this nothing but disturbing, yet expected. We suffer here from a weird superiority complex made up of false logic and self adulation that is not warranted.
On a daily basis I find myself in disbelief in the stupidity of many of my countrymen, as we think we can solve the worlds problems with kindness and nice words. Of course we can't achieve this without the institutionalized cencorship known as political correctness, the real scourge of our society and culture.
I truly believe my countrymen are mostly led by feelings of fairness, but they are lost in this pc quagmire which seems to sap the sanity out of even the best intentioned.
Our media on the other hand is a sham and has been very leftist for a long time, which adds to the collective ideals in which many here think. We have had a biased media here for years, but trying to tell my countrymen this gets me nothing but grief. My favorite example is how everything here was so pro Clinton during the Yugoslavia bombings, but soon as a right wing President Bush bombs Iraq, the US is the evil empire.
I truly believe our media here has been playing this card for a long time, and I'm not surprised this website is lambasted without actually reading closer, the truth is simply a side story.
Posted by: The fanatic
at May 14, 2007 1:08 AM
Every now and then I get emails, usually from Pakistan, from Muslims wanting to join the jihad. And on occasion I even get emails from furious non-Muslims denouncing jihad and telling me that my fellow jihadists and I will not prevail.For the former group, you should be soliciting money from them and asking them to go to Jalalalalalalalabad. For the latter group, you should reply to them saying that the jihadists will prevail until such time they (your furious non-Muslim 'attackers') learn to read.
That said, I think it's your logo - with a Crescent and star donning it, who can blame people for mistaking this for a Jihadi site. What do you expect them to do - read?
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at May 14, 2007 1:31 AM
I'm a little guilty of not reading this article closely myself, but everything I've stated about things in Canada otherwise is correct.
Posted by: The fanatic
at May 14, 2007 2:25 AM
From the report itself, the Imam threatened to turn in the man to the authorities, but changed his mind, thinking that he had gotten through to him. Not only that, in the aftermath of the arrest, he had no regrets.
I'd give this imam an 'A' for originality.
Posted by: Infidel Pride
at May 14, 2007 2:47 AM
CTV a reliable news source, Spencer?
Why? Because it's private sector, unlike the Al-CBC, the Canadian counterpart of Al-BBC?
Or do you think Canadian universities are any better at graduating journalists who are able to connect the dots?
Frank Magazine used to call 'em meat puppets for a reason.
Posted by: waterdragon52
at May 14, 2007 8:29 AM
Spencer:
"And on occasion I even get emails from furious non-Muslims denouncing jihad and telling me that my fellow jihadists and I will not prevail."
LOL - that'll be from BNP members in the UK. They only get as far as the word Jihad and don't read the rest. Intellectually, they're first cousins to the thick-as-two-short-planks British underclassers who attacked the home of a hospital paediatrican because they thought that her job title meant that she was a child sex offender (see link).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/901723.stm
Posted by: Matamoros
at May 14, 2007 12:21 PM
I have had just about enough of the fbi being waved around like a weapon against the American people. People who were here long before they were in existence. I am going to fight for my country, America, not for some guvment org that I believe has kicked the Constitution and the Bill of Rights out the door. They don’t even know what they stand for anymore and I don’t either. Not surprising though, remember that in the past they refused to acknowledge the existence of the mafia, all the while running around collecting info on prominent mostly law abiding Americans personal lives. Enough with the threats of being rounded up for using our First Amendment rights, for standing up for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I will continue to write my rep regarding the out of control behavior regarding the islamists and the fbi. I will support any members that stand for America and Americans but I will oppose any islamopologists as well. I don’t care what they do to me, if they choose to round me up fine, but I will be the biggest pain in the ass they ever incarcerated. Hunger strikes (fake ones), bathroom strikes (sort of), scheming to cause as much of a headache as I can, yep. Escape attempts? Always. The courts, yes, I believe that some guvment agencies need the Constitution shoved down their throats in open court, it is time to take back America legally, with the tools the founding fathers gave us so long ago. If they think I can be intimidated into surrendering my country to them they are not thinking. Hmmm, imagine that. From what I see, if this was 1940 they would be siding with the German American bund. Don’t let anyone intimidate you, don’t worry about what they threaten to do, live like an American standing proud in the face of any onslaught from any source. In the words of the great patriot, Nathan Hale, my only regret is that I have but one live to give for my country. Think about what that means and make your decision on exactly where you stand.
Posted by: tgusa
at May 14, 2007 12:38 PM
Ah, but at least they spelt the name right.
The incompetent morons in MSM are rarely willing to acknowledge the existence of valuable sites like yours much less draw attention to them. Now a few more people are going to begin reading the truth.
Posted by: Jay Currie
at May 15, 2007 1:50 AM
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