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The al-Qaeda playbook encourages imprisoned jihadists to accuse their captors of torture, but this is probably not what they had in mind. "Terror Suspect Claims Torture by Americans, Not Enough Entertainment at Guantanamo Bay," from Fox News:
WASHINGTON — An accused enemy combatant held at Guantanamo Bay told a military hearing he was physically as well as mentally tortured there by having to read a newsletter full of 'crap,' being forced to use unscented deodorant and shampoo and having to play sports with a ball that would not bounce.
Majid Khan of Pakistan denied any connection to Al Qaeda and said he was tortured and his family hounded by U.S. authorities, according to a redacted transcript released Tuesday by the Pentagon.
Khan told an April 15 hearing called to determine whether he was rightly classified as an "enemy combatant" that he also had his baby pictures taken from him, that cleaners left marks on his cell walls and that detainees have no DVD players or other entertainment.
At one point, Khan said he wrote on his walls, "stop torturing me, I need my mails, newspaper and my lawyer."
Khan was captured in Pakistan in 2003. The military says he has provided support to Al Qaeda and has expressed a desire to assassinate Pakistan's President Pervez Musharaff. U.S. government authorities have said that Khan was also involved in plots to blow up American gas stations and poison U.S. reservoirs. The April 15 hearing is the first step in possible war crimes charges against him.
In a lengthy written statement, Khan said the CIA and the Defense Department tortured him after his capture in Pakistan as well as when he was transferred to the Guantanamo Bay detention facility.
"I swear to God this place in some sense worst than CIA jails. I am being mentally torture here," said Khan in a statement read by his personal representative about his time in Guantanamo. "There is extensive torture even for the smallest of infractions."
Chunks of the transcript were removed, including what appears to be additional discussion of torture, including during his detention by the CIA.
"The redaction of Majid Khan's testimony regarding his treatment in the CIA secret program strengthens the view that the administration has something to hide," said Priti Patel, an assistant attorney at Human Rights First. "Covering up abuses in this way is a strategy guaranteed to backfire."
The transcript, however, includes detailed descriptions of what Khan said was abuse at Guantanamo. He said he has been unable to see his daughter, was denied communal recreation for 11 weeks, went four weeks without sunlight and fresh air, was deprived of basic or comfort items for three weeks, had his beard shaved twice and was forced to wear a protective suicide prevention smock.
And he complained that he was only given cheap unscented soap and shampoo, and that in the recreation room there is "no weight lifting machine, no toilet, no sink, [no] hoops, and even balls them self have little air in them; they hardly bounce."
"They know my weaknesses — what drive me crazy and what doesn't," he said.
Khan, who grew up in Maryland and is the only U.S. resident among 15 detainees the government considers most dangerous, also described suicide attempts where he "chewed my artery which goes through my elbow." And he said he went on hunger strikes to pressure authorities to either charge him or send him back to Pakistan.
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The article goes on to describe interrogation tactics, most of which have been discussed in the media before, and don't begin to approach the manner in which al-Qaeda is known to treat its captives.
U.S. intelligence also says Khan's cousin and uncle, who were both members of Al Qaeda, introduced Khan to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the suspected mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, who in a similar hearing at Guantanamo Bay depicted himself as Al Qaeda's most prolific planner.
Together, the government says, Kahn and Mohammed plotted terrorist attacks in the United States. Khan also is said to have helped pick possible operatives, including Iyman Faris, an Ohio truck driver who is now serving 20 years in prison for supporting terrorism. Faris was studying how to destroy New York City suspension bridges.
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Late last month the Pentagon announced that a 15th high-value detainee — Abdul Hadi al-Iraqi, captured late last year and formerly held by the CIA — had arrived at Guantanamo. He has not yet had his hearing.
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Ah this is the get out of Iraq crowd playbook as Teddy Kennedy and the Democrats at Abu inspired terrorists to use their methods of malevolent attacks on President Bush.
This is torture according to the get out of Iraq crowd standards. Being in US custody and depriving anyone of anything is torture.
That is why one has to be so very careful in which things they start doing in Bush bashing to being in bed with political movements whom terrorists are praising.
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at May 15, 2007 5:11 PM
"unscented deodorant and shampoo, dull reading material"
Paris Hilton syndrome?
at May 15, 2007 5:13 PM
Good thing he's not in communist China, of course if he was he wouldn't be talking.
Posted by: AMartinez at May 15, 2007 5:21 PM
By all means...I want to keep Mr. Khan happy. You see, we need to win their hearts and minds down there at Guantanamo. That's what our politicians tell us. So, I'll get right on that noble effort and send him a care package. Let's see..basketballs balls with lots of air in them, Desert Wind Deodorant for Muslim Men Only, Fresh Apple Shampoo (in an Islamic green bottle) and copies of the current best selling novels in Tehran, "Johnny Jihad Does Paris" and "Imam Ibrahim Goes to Israel." I'd send along a smoked ham too, but, with the recent increase in postage, that may be more than I have in my Win-The-Heart-Of-A-Terrorist-At-Gitmo fund.
Posted by: maryrose at May 15, 2007 5:35 PM
I think its a shame that our soldiers should have to work so hard keeping these folks from committing suicide. Once we've gotten whatever information we need from them, what's the beef with them committing suicide if that's their choice? It would save taxpayer money to house them, as well as the money for their legal fees, as well as reduce threats to the soldiers guarding them. How is that not a win-win situation? But trying to chew through your own artery sounds a bit tough. Guess he never saw the Hillary Swank film Million Dollar Baby. She tried to kill herself by biting her own tongue off. If the idea caught on, however, they'd probably have to stick some sort of bite plates in the detainees mouths until they'd gotten all the information they could use. After that, why try so hard to prevent these guys from committing suicide? I don't understand the rationale behind that.
Posted by: Caroline at May 15, 2007 5:38 PM
Majid Khan whined incessently
There is extensive torture even for the smallest of infractions.
Oh, do go on, honey-lambchops. What did our sweet little porkpie do to make the naughty naughty soldiers treat you so? Huh, snookums?
Posted by: special_guest at May 15, 2007 5:50 PM
Now if we really wanted to torture him, we'd send him onto the basketball court wearing a "JESUS ROCKS" tee shirt, to show him how islam treats people.
Posted by: walterc at May 15, 2007 5:54 PM
Figuring out Office 2007 is a prime example of true "mental torture."
Kind Regards,
Farside
at May 15, 2007 5:58 PM
Maybe he needs to be treated with an injection of .308 copper at 1,426 feet a second?
Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at May 15, 2007 6:02 PM
I apologize for dragging in a sport that more than half the readers of JW don't normally follow. Anyway, from the article above:
... and having to play sports with a ball that would not bounce.Majid Khan was the name of a famous Paki cricketer from the 70's (incidentally, a cousin of Imran Khan), so I'm assuming that it's obviously not the same person here. However, given the type of batsman that he was, he too would have had problems with a ball that refused to bounce: therefore, the similarities don't end with names.
Majid Khan of Pakistan denied any connection to Al Qaeda and said he was tortured and his family hounded by U.S. authorities, according to a redacted transcript released Tuesday by the Pentagon.
Anyway, it's amusing what passes for torture these days - playing with balls that don't bounce. That way, all Infidel cricketers who have to play on Paki pitches that provide no bounce should complain to the UNHRC or the new Human Rights Council (yep, the one entertaining blasphemy against Islam as a new crime), which should then cite Pakistan for such criminal acts.
"Judge, the ball didn't bounce, so I couldn't catch it - boo hoo!!!!"
Posted by: Infidel Pride at May 15, 2007 6:05 PM
Oh, how tragic. No bouncy balls or DVD players, and unscented deodorant? Call Human Rights Watch.
Seriously, he's lucky he isn't being fed a diet of straight pork, forced to defecate facing Mecca, and allowed to only watch Vegetales (or The View--for surely that would qualify as torture). If scentless deodorant is the worst of his complaints, it doesn't sound like they have it half bad down in Club Gitmo.
Posted by: staff_of_magius at May 15, 2007 6:09 PM
"An accused enemy combatant held at Guantanamo Bay told a military hearing he was physically as well as mentally tortured there by having to read a newsletter full of 'crap,' being forced to use unscented deodorant and shampoo and having to play sports with a ball that would not bounce."
I would like to laugh at this, but if ever this went before some activist federal judge, I could easily see him being released, or maybe even being awarded some compensation for his suffering.
Don't laugh, prisones have sued for not getting their copy of playboy magazine on time, or that their cells didn't include cable TV.
at May 15, 2007 6:09 PM
I had no idea this was happening in my country. My God. Boring reading material.
How about CS Lewis or John Locke or ... oh, whatever might work to begin changing the vile ones' minds so they'll tell us what they know.
Posted by: StillBreathing at May 15, 2007 6:17 PM
Another lame complaint by a terrorist (as if they'd tell the truth in this lifetime).
The kicker is how many loony-tunes actually will believe this scumbag to be honest as forthcoming.
One thing for sure...it's a military base, and I know a handful of those there (including one interrogator), and what they told the chronic complainer...
"TOUGH SH*T!"
Posted by: jcom972 at May 15, 2007 6:19 PM
Off topic:
Muslim workers quit Swift meatpacking plant over prayer dispute
Posted by: ummahnewslinks at May 15, 2007 6:20 PM
Print the words "Good" and "Bye" on the ends of 357 slugs and let him do some speed reading.
All of these spies, saboteurs and terrorist lunatics should have been given field tribunals and shot immediately upon capture (except for those with real intelligence value, who could be shot later), saving us all of the ridiculous legal costs and the global losses in the realm of psychological warfare, meanwhile.
Pussyfooting to Oblivion.
And letting the maniacs set the rules.
Fools.
Posted by: profitsbeard at May 15, 2007 6:29 PM
Ummahnewslinks
Looks like one should reward the Swift company with more business, except that it would be a punishment for them insofaras they won't be able to support demand, working at less than full capacity. But if they could, they deserve to see their sales skyrocket.
Posted by: Infidel Pride at May 15, 2007 6:30 PM
So give the guy a laptop with a web filter allowing only one url: jihadwatch.org. That will let him read something interesting for a change.
Posted by: jewdog at May 15, 2007 6:48 PM
While Politicians in canada continue to ignore the Elephant in the room which WE all know is the Islamists wanting Shariah Law in the West , even a vile speech by a Imam that wants public killing for adultry and other Shariah law punishments goes un-noticed by the MSM .
check out the Imam who is buddies with the Khadr's and now the 17 Jihadists arrested last June 0f 2006 , the West misunderstands Sharaih and makes Islam out to be a Human Rights violator.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OTfacRDBJo
at May 15, 2007 6:54 PM
Their complaint, translated:
They're unable to make contacts with their compatriots still fighting their own vietnam
(and it is THEIR own vietnam that's going on),
unable to warn them what we know of them,
and unable to do anything about it.
Thus, it's "mental torture", plain and simple.
:-)
at May 15, 2007 6:54 PM
Is Kahn a relative of Arthur Batchelor & Faye Turney? His whining sounds identical to the 'torture' of the British Navy seaman.
Posted by: UK Infidel Lover at May 15, 2007 7:01 PM
Hmmm...well, while anything's possible, it's more likely he's just echoing the same talking points from the same propaganda machine verbatim like they've been doing for years.
Posted by: jcom972 at May 15, 2007 7:18 PM
Infidel Pride,
I just wonder when the inevitable, CAIR-backed lawsuit will be filed.
Posted by: ummahnewslinks at May 15, 2007 7:20 PM
Air drop him (and all the rest) into Afghanistan. Then -next time upon meeting him et al on the battlefield - take no prisoners. It's the way of war.
And - why is (any) media outlet broadcasting this enemy propaganda as "news"?!
at May 15, 2007 7:31 PM
profitsbeard: "All of these spies, saboteurs and terrorist lunatics should have been given field tribunals and shot immediately upon capture (except for those with real intelligence value, who could be shot later), saving us all of the ridiculous legal costs and the global losses in the realm of psychological warfare, meanwhile."
Well I do happen to agree with that assessment, given that the jihadis are not abiding by the Geneva conventions and so to do that would be perfectly legal. Of course we know that the prevailing political atmosphere won't allow for that. But setting that aside, I would like to understand why we bend over backwards even further to prevent these detainees from committing suicide by, for example, inserting feeding tubes in their arms when they try to starve themselves to death. (This comment is restricted to the issue of our policies only AFTER we have already collected whatever useful intelligence we can). Why the additional efforts to prevent them from committing suicide, as this particular detainee apparently tried to do? I wouldn't expect anything other than the kind of mockery on this thread about these bogus claims of "torture" because obviously those claims are ridiculous. But what might come closest to actual violation of someone's human rights would be the active prevention of someone committing suicide if they truly wished to do so. Why do we work so hard to prevent that? (Again - I'm talking about after we have already collected whatever useful intelligence we can). Wouldn't permitting them to commit suicide be a win-win situation? I am asking that question with all due seriousness. Normally its the left who champion suicide as a human right anyway so I can't imagine them objecting to our standing back and allowing it. So what precisely is the practical or moral rationale for our preventing these folks from starving themselves to death or hanging themselves or chewing through their arteries or, as the Million Dollar Baby attempted - biting off their own tongues?
Posted by: Caroline at May 15, 2007 7:41 PM
"why is (any) media outlet broadcasting this enemy propaganda as "news"?"
Simple...their vociferous hatred comprising the entire persona of theor political platform, all while masquerading as objective journalism, which they've been doing for years now.
Posted by: jcom972 at May 15, 2007 7:52 PM
The man seems tortured by boredom. Perhaps he should be entertained by using a cat-o-nine tails or a bastinado on him. Or break him on the rack. Perhaps this would amuse him a bit.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at May 15, 2007 8:18 PM
If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others -- that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.
Posted by: Greek Fire at May 15, 2007 9:15 PM
This has to be a joke. I can't possibly believe this. A ball that didn't bounce?
Posted by: Jimmy the Dhimmi at May 15, 2007 9:15 PM
Unbelievable the torture… No “bouncing” ball, dull reading material, a clean cell, unscented deodorant and shampoo! OMG! Someone, please. Make it stop! The horror of it all. I am sure to have nightmares for weeks.
Torture? Torture!? You call that torture?!? Hmmph. Torture is what happened to Pfc. Kristian Menchaca, 23, of Houston, Texas, and Pfc. Thomas L. Tucker, 25, of Madras, Oregon.
Torture. Yeah, right. Majid Khan is a pussy and ought to be ashamed of himself. The torture he suffered is NOTHING even remotely like the torture that we can only pray is NOT being inflicted upon Sgt. Anthony J. Schober, 23, of Reno, Nev., and Spc. Alex R. Jimenez, 25, of Lawrence, Mass., and Pfc. Joseph J. Anzack Jr., 20, of Torrance, Calif., and Pvt. Byron W. Fouty, 19, of Waterford, Mich. Pray that God is with these fine young men and their families. And pray that the worst that happens to them is a ball that doesn’t bounce or deodorant that is unscented.
at May 15, 2007 9:25 PM
I'm surprised about the shampoo alone, let alone any deodorant, scented or not.
Past experience with them told me they don't even USE it anyway.
Go figure...lol.
at May 15, 2007 9:40 PM
Caroline-
Preserving these maniacs only continues to endanger us all. Either literally (guards could be killed, as almost happened at Gitmo already) or their (journalistically-allowed-to-spread) propaganda can be used to fire up the jihadists, demoralize the naive at home, confuse our half-hearted allies, spread toxic b.s., waste millions of fallacious legal issues and gain so little info that the balance still comes down on:
Shoot 'em when you catch 'em.
They're like Ebola carriers: too dangerous to hold.
Posted by: profitsbeard at May 15, 2007 9:40 PM
The poor b*st*ards! My heart just bleeds for them!!! Boo hoo hoo!
But--
The suffering allegedly incurred by these jihadists at Guantanamo Bay (from so-called "mental torture" inflicted they claim by their American captors) is nothing compared to what the Muslims have inflicted upon the rest of the world over the past 13 centuries. I mean, these people actually expect Americans to NOT react and retalliate against being selected and targeted for jihadi warfare??????? On what planet did they arrive at that conclusion?
They've dish it out to the world for over 13 centuries. Now let them have a taste of their own medicine. And contemplate the horror of it all.
Posted by: pythagoras at May 15, 2007 9:43 PM
My suggested amendment to the Geneva Convention:
"Those who plot and proactively work towards the destruction of western civilization are not entitled to the benefits of it."
Posted by: pythagoras at May 15, 2007 9:46 PM
pythagoras-
Addendum: "Except our rope, our electric chairs, our lethal injections, our firing squads and our guillotines."
Don't want to deny them everything.
Posted by: profitsbeard at May 15, 2007 10:09 PM
pythagoras:
We don't need that as GC doesn't apply anyway, since the geneva convention only applies to uniformed troops of an actual nation, which those scumbags are NOT-they don't even apply to terrorists like those at Gitmo.
They're treated far better than they're entitled to, above and beyond basic human rights.
They know what real torture is, and what they're subjected to is anything BUT...and they know it.
at May 15, 2007 10:23 PM
A very good satire piece on GITMO from Mark Steyn
http://www.steynonline.com/content/view/258/30/
A sample:
"As for being emaciated, it's the only death camp in history where the soi-disant torture victims put on weight. In contrast to the undernourished thesp in the movie version, the average gain at Gitmo is 18 pounds. The Afghan detainees were the chunkiest Afghans I've ever seen. If they ever make it home, their old comrades -- the lean wiry warriors of the Hindu Kush -- will wonder why a party of Florida retirees has suddenly shown up. These Pushtuns are pushing a ton."
He's a hoot.
Posted by: Leave Iraq Now at May 15, 2007 10:40 PM
I say, step up the torture! Once a day for a couple hours a day, when the guys are on their own in their cells, pipe in readings (in appropriate mother-tongue) of: Ibn Warraq, 'Why I am not a Muslim'; Hirsi Ali 'Infidel'; the Bible, especially Genesis and Exodus (so they can find out the real original versions of all those garbled yarns in the Koran), Psalms, and the four Gospels.
Hey, give them a TV screen offering two sets of videos: 1. Vege Tales and 2. The Jesus Film (in Arabic/ Farsi/ other language as appropriate).
Let them have one book...not the Koran but the Bible (secularists, non-Biblical faith practitioners - I'm suggesting this simply because, in the past, there ARE cases of exposure to the Bible bringing about genuine change of heart in Islamists - so if it works, it's worth a try).
Not 24 hours a day - just now and then. Try - not so much reverse brainwashing as ...an opening. Worth a try. And their reaction should be instructive. If they deface a Bible then all the nonsense about Islam being tolerant is blown to pieces. If they call brief periods of exposure to non-Islamic scriptures and coolly rational anti-Islamic texts 'torture' they should be laughed out of court - when we compare it to the ghastly details of what was done to those three Christians in Turkey, or all those beheading videos.
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at May 15, 2007 10:44 PM
Of course, the jihadi was trying to be funny. In Afghanistan, in the mountains especially, shampoo and deodorant are not used. When was the last time that bin laden took a shower, you figure -1971? That was at a time when he was still chasing skirts in Sweden as a young man - before he discovered his religion.
http://www.unitedjustice.com/images/family.jpg
I also doubt that bin laden has, or uses if he did, toilet paper. With no toilet facilities and no running water, what is he, and his entourage, doing with their waste? Deodorant is the least of their concerns.
But this is yet another example of how these islamic tough guys, really morph into nancy boys when the tables are turned. Ironic then, that our most vexing enemy to date is one which is so mentally weak.
The ball that does not bounce, that is a dirty trick on the part of the infidel, albeit a funny one.
Posted by: jihadwatcher at May 15, 2007 10:47 PM
We should announe that those prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay who cooperated fully with American authorities, and supplied valuable information in our war against Islamic Jihadists, would be rewarded by being released and returned to their homelands.
Then we should release them.
Posted by: rational
at May 15, 2007 11:09 PM
Sir Richard Burton was conscious of the danger from the Islamic militants while in East Africa in times where politicians were less effete and bumbling. He reccommended that such religious fanatic criminals as the ones in Guantanamo should be burned and their ashes scattered on the sea, in order not to make martyrs out of them.
Now the US is keeping martyrs for the show at Guantanamo; and the muslims are encouraged to whine about how cruel America is.
When will we see some decisive action against the enemy?
at May 15, 2007 11:19 PM
"The redaction of Majid Khan's testimony regarding his treatment in the CIA secret program strengthens the view that the administration has something to hide," said Priti Patel, an assistant attorney at Human Rights First. "Covering up abuses in this way is a strategy guaranteed to backfire."
TELL THAT TO THE THREE MARINES WHO HAVE JUST BEEN TAKEN HOSTAGE BY AL QUAEDA YOU *^&%$@%#&^@ VERMIN!!!
Pretty Patel.. meet me in a dark alley, somewhere in new York!
Posted by: Allahfanculo at May 15, 2007 11:29 PM
"Khan was captured in Pakistan in 2003. The military says he has provided support to Al Qaeda and has expressed a desire to assassinate Pakistan's President Pervez Musharaff. U.S. government authorities have said that Khan was also involved in plots to blow up American gas stations and poison U.S. reservoirs."
This guy is whining about unscented deoderant!? He's lucky the USA doesn't line him up in front of ditch and send him to eternity.
Undoubtedly, the liberals will condemn the US for "inhumane" treatment of our mortal enemies. It's so ridiculous it would be funny if it weren't so sick.
Perhaps we could invite Bob Hope over to entertain the "Mujahadeen troops". Oh well, he's already dead. You know, most of the lefties in HOllywood could go over and entertain them and sware allegiance to the holy Koran. Just make sure the actresses don't forget to wear their burkas.
Posted by: Tookson at May 15, 2007 11:29 PM
Human Rights First - WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR THE THREE MARINES WHO WERE TAKEN HOSTAGE BY AL QUAEDA??!!
Posted by: Allahfanculo at May 15, 2007 11:30 PM
Human Rights First - YOU ARE DAMN LUCKY THAT I AM NOT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!! AND SO ARE YOUR "CLIENTS".
They're lucky that Dhimya is provideing them three squares a day and KKKoranKKKampfs for reading.
If it were up to me...
Posted by: Allahfanculo at May 15, 2007 11:32 PM
This has to be a joke. I can't possibly believe this. A ball that didn't bounce?
Posted by: Jimmy the Dhimmi
I am willing to help out. You want some bouncing balls, Majid Khan of Pakistan??!!!
Let me be of assistance...
Posted by: Allahfanculo at May 15, 2007 11:34 PM
And WHY is this god-damn George W. bin-al-Bush not out there on a PEDESTAL screaming we want Bibles for our soldiers taken hostage by the enmy??!! We DEMAND that "Human Rights First" visit with the American Hostages AT ONCE!!
What kind of crap is this SILENCE on behalf of the so-called "leader"?
What kind of a pansy are you, dhimya?
The silence is deafening!
Posted by: Allahfanculo at May 15, 2007 11:37 PM
I had no idea this was happening in my country. My God. Boring reading material.
[...]
Posted by: StillBreathing
I suggest we donate some Mickey mouse and Timothy Leary tomes to them. Maybe Ken Kesey and Allen Ginsberg too...
at May 15, 2007 11:58 PM
"unscented deodorant and shampoo, dull reading material"
Paris Hilton syndrome?
Posted by: champ
Maybe they should tie his ass down in leg irons and have Paris spend her 45 days in his cell.
What a bit of reality TV that would make!
Posted by: Allahfanculo at May 16, 2007 12:00 AM
...Then we should release them.
Posted by: rational
Pretty funny.. LOL....
Posted by: Allahfanculo at May 16, 2007 12:05 AM
LOL...me too.
"ditz does durkas"?
at May 16, 2007 12:07 AM
The fear among the Islamists will be spreading like wildfire now as these horrible accusations have been reported to the world press. It should hardly come as a surprise that what we have heard so far is only the tip of the iceberg as there are far more insidious ploys being implemented by the psycorps at Gitmo.
I have it on good authority that the footwear the inmates are forced to wear is two sizes too big! Furthermore, some Koran that have been issued in Arabic have been manufactured with the writing back to front! This has not been noticed yet because no bugger can read Arabic, shameful but there you go….this will have a lifetime effect on the inmate reading this, should they ever be released, as it will take years of retraining by the imam’s to get it all back in order.
The marks left on the walls by cleaners are in fact subliminal messages, written in Hebrew, which varies from outright slurs on Allah and his minions to humorous anecdotes about Osama Bin Laden.
at May 16, 2007 12:09 AM
Figuring out Office 2007 is a prime example of true "mental torture."
Kind Regards,
Farside
Posted by: farside
Same for Crapple's OSX "audio midi setup" refusing to recognize any drivers and then crashing..
... these terrorists are leading some very cushy lives..
Posted by: Allahfanculo at May 16, 2007 12:09 AM
Those weak minded fellows have it good.
The have their # 1 best seller "The quran",
but then again reading that is in the same class as mental torture.
at May 16, 2007 12:17 AM
"mental torture"
Now you know how it feels.
Posted by: champ
Mental torture is having to come on here and other sites and witness the daily follies of islam instead of being able to peacefully pursue my interests in music and the arts in general.
God, I curse the day that mahomet saw the Light of your day!
Posted by: Allahfanculo at May 16, 2007 12:18 AM
Maybe "Farfur" can make a surprise visit to break things up a bit.
Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA at May 16, 2007 12:25 AM
We can all chip in to pay his airfare.
Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA at May 16, 2007 12:27 AM
"Will that be one-way, sir?"
lol
at May 16, 2007 12:41 AM
The ball that does not bounce, that is a dirty trick on the part of the infidel, albeit a funny one.
Posted by: jihadwatcher
And the Italian who mysteriously trips over thin air in the final minute of a Football game in the World cup.. thus stealing victory from the Australian side..
Screw the jihadists!
The Australians have WAY MORE BEEF!!
Posted by: Allahfanculo at May 16, 2007 12:48 AM
At one point, Khan said he wrote on his walls, "stop torturing me, I need my mails, newspaper and my lawyer."
The decline of western civilization. Now every fcking pig knows it has a right to have a lawyer. What a joke!
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On a Crusade the world we bring! © Manowar
at May 16, 2007 1:00 AM
Oh poor baby.
We have three missing soldiers in Iraq i wonder how well they are being treated?
How fast and certain will thier trials be?
Under what conditions is thier confinement to be?
Those three soldiers' time left in this world amounts to how long it will take for the "heroes and lions" to film thier tortures and beheadings.
To be used as recruiting tools even.
Forgive me if i do not feel moved for the zombie sitting in his cell waiting for his next timely meal.The meal he chose from a menu of foods.Sitting in air conditioning in summer and heat in winter.Reading his "holy koran",arrows directing his prayers to the devil.Toilet facing the correct way.
This guy got his fifteen minutes of fame now it's off for his reward.
And throw away the key.
Posted by: Dar al-harb at May 16, 2007 1:03 AM
"mentally tortured there by having to read a newsletter full of 'crap,' being forced to use unscented deodorant and shampoo and having to play sports with a ball that would not bounce."
I think they must have taken his koran from him. The material in that book can hardly be described as dull. Especially the actions of big mo as he went about the ME looting, killing, raping, torturing and beheading. I have read the koran but one must say that about this book, it certainly stirs one up. Give him his koran and he will shut up.
"Unscented deodorant" ? What would that be ? Did the boys give him some phenyle or naphthalene ?
"shampoo" ? Must be truckwashing liquid.
"sports" ? He must be feeling very awkward, not having beheaded a cow/goat/camel/sheep for such a long time. I can understand the craving. After a lifetime of sawing off heads, they put him on withdrawal. He is exhibiting withdrawal symptoms.
Posted by: arjun.sevak at May 16, 2007 1:07 AM
I agree...serial murderers always do.
Posted by: jcom972 at May 16, 2007 1:20 AM
told a military hearing he was physically as well as mentally tortured
I hope these guys are enjoying the game. Before they see the light of day, the rules are going to change. No ex-post facto in Cuba.
Fox had a Republican Primary debate with a phone-in poll tonight. ‘Last man standing’ McCain used the ‘they’ll follow us home’ and the ‘high moral ground’ lines. He came in last with 2% of the call-in vote.
Ron Paul is a Republican candidate for President. I’d never heard of him until he was on tonight’s primary debate. He was the only one calling for withdrawal from Iraq. Paul made reference to a $60 trillion social benefit obligation. He talked about Bin Laden hanging out in a Pakistan with nuclear weapons. Viewers calling into Fox rated him the winner. Hannity attributed the showing to Ron Paul’s campaign machine. Ron Paul’s campaign machine? The Fox panel only made reference to his entertainment value.
The Beagle might drift between fixes, but it generally makes good way.
at May 16, 2007 1:33 AM
The decline of western civilization. Now every fcking pig knows it has a right to have a lawyer. What a joke!
[...]
Posted by: Hell Awaits
I think the animals they butcher halal should also have the right to a LAWYER!!
Do any of you have any idea how cruel it is to bleed an animal to death by cutting its neck and bleeding it to death - IN FULL CONSCIOUSNESS?!
Oh.. but it's in the name of *religion*.. the RELIGION OF PEACE®.. Any cruelty and barbarity is all right when it's performed in the name of the RELIGION OF PEACE®..
*P*U*K*E*
Posted by: Allahfanculo at May 16, 2007 1:34 AM
This practically parodies itself. Just how in the Hell is cheap toilet paper considered torture now. They should have said, "if you don't like the toilet paper we give you, use the Koran."
Posted by: FIAR at May 16, 2007 1:41 AM
FOX: Leads off: “Ron Paul did not acquit himself well”; “It’s done”; "there was seperation tonight". Guiliani gets the first interview. McCain gets the second. Back about 7th or 8th, Paul is grilled by Hannity on his position that he would not have intervened in Saddam’s killings. Thousands dead! Do you really support this?
I don’t know Ron Paul or his positions, but I know he is being sandbagged by Fox News. I’m feeling a 1984 moment.
In any case, the brick oven is operational and we’re off the grid. We had pizza tonight; it was excellent.
at May 16, 2007 1:57 AM
I've known ron paul for 22 years.
Personally, he's a really amiable guy.
Profesionally, however, there's a reason he's known as the "patron republican of lost causes", a republican version of ross perot.
Over time ya tend to see he's more libertarian in the party sense, and although most of his points are well thought out, well articulated, and all...eventually, he ends up coming off like ross perot, going off on some tangent that is tantamount to suspicions of senility.
And no, to answer the next question, I didn't watch the "debates" (debates are a waste of time as they're words, not actions), as I didn't have to.
A lot can happen in 1 1/2 years, which is what everyone is wanting to ponder over, and frankly, that is the last thing I'm concerned with right now with things building up for this summers showtime, which, if happens, changes the entire equation.
at May 16, 2007 2:11 AM
pez
I thought that Ron Paul deserved the trashing he got from Giuliani, Hannity and FNC. In the end, he ended up second, although it's perfectly possible that a lot of Liberals may have voted for him.
I was intrigued by the fact that he was opposed to the war, and wants to pull us out. But his position seems identical to the Libs, and is not based on weakening Islam, but rather, the US toppling the Iran government in 1953, and bombing Iraq over 10 years... I thought that Tancredo's suggestion of stay but disengage was politically the smartest solution, where he proposes that the US remain involved in the Mid East, but abandons the task of policing Iraq. One good thing - I believe McCain would have dropped like a rock due to his opposition to torture, and Fred Thomson entering this race wouldn't make a difference. Currently, Romney is still my favorite, but if Tancredo could pull ahead, I'd pick him instead. I thought that his statement that he'd use Jack Bauer if the US were to be attacked in a fictitious scenario might have pulled him ahead.
Posted by: Infidel Pride at May 16, 2007 3:40 AM
On second thought, never mind...he just shot himself in the head tonight, implying bombing iraq contributed to 9/11 (something the kook fringe media centers around on-nothing kills a candidate here, right or left, faster than invoking the kook fringe lunatic wannabes masquerading as media).
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/5/15/224151.shtml?s=ic
Like I said above...very nice guy, just goes off on tangents like ross perot did. He lost, too.
Ouch.
at May 16, 2007 4:16 AM
Oh, that's just a discoloration common when cleaning compounds are used to clean feces & urine off that he threw around (seems to be a common thing, like what triggered the abby grabby prison scam). Had he not thrown it around his cell (and at the guards, like his buddies did at abby grabby, resulting in the real reason they got their asses kicked) he wouldn't have to worry about "marks" on the walls.
Of course, we never hear about the whole truth in the MSM...only what they want us to think.
(Catherine, cleaners simply hose down the cell with the same ingredients, like bleach & liquid soap, I mentioned above-it's also how they take a bath half the time, too...the hose)
Posted by: jcom972 at May 16, 2007 5:43 AM
THe next time the complaining Muslim terrorist sling doodoo on his cell wall, leave it there...and soon he will have hours of playful enjoyment swinging at blowflys...
Posted by: exsgtbrown at May 16, 2007 6:14 AM
oh common guys this poor islamists is in our care and we need to be nice to them so they will treat our people well when they are captured as said by those ACLU types. so we bend over backwards to use kid gloves and what does it give us,, little whinny islamists who are cowards at heart.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at May 16, 2007 7:00 AM
a newsletter full of 'crap,'
Considering the sorry state of the MSM, this is no surprise.
In all of his allegations, Kahn doesn't even mention the real torture that's occurring right before his eyes, as he and his prison-mates gain weight, at an average of 18 pounds each. We're making them fat, and clogging their arteries! Instead of feeding them the meat of pigs, we're making them look like pigs. BWAHAHAHAHAH!
Posted by: Bigfoot at May 16, 2007 9:41 AM
Watching the Republican candidates...not to judge how glib or how quick on his feet he may be or how manly his jawline. I'm looking for that sign of a man with the balls to use our diplomatic services effectively and then if that fails, our military power. In a self defense situation there are some people who just can't pull the trigger..until it's too late.
If the dems win the election, of course, the no balls thing will be more than a figure of speech.
at May 16, 2007 11:59 AM
"Maybe they should tie his ass down in leg irons and have Paris spend her 45 days in his cell.
What a bit of reality TV that would make!"
Posted by: Allahfanculo
Ha Ha Ha!!
at May 16, 2007 4:25 PM
The Quran is dull reading material? Who knew?
Posted by: abad at May 17, 2007 3:32 AM
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