Fanaticism sours the human heart.

Even beneath the nominal Muslim is still a human being.

Repelled by the terroristic jihad.

Let's hope more MINO's (Muslims In Name Only) join together to expel this Koranic viciousness from their "faith", finally.

Or it will have to be killed out.

Posted by: profitsbeard at May 17, 2007 10:43 AM

How appropriate that the Islamic party is called "AK."

Posted by: Know Your Enemy at May 17, 2007 11:18 AM

I'm confused why my original post was removed but here goes again...

It won't be long before the AKP start attacking the secularists to make sure their will is imposed on the masses. How dare the secularists fight the natural progression of islam...they must be islamaphobes or jews.

Posted by: PissBeUponHim at May 17, 2007 11:35 AM

It'd be even funnier if a majority of seats totalled 47.

Posted by: Miss_Anthrope at May 17, 2007 12:13 PM

These secularists know what living ubder Islamic rule and sharia is like and they reject it. What person in thier right mind would want to live in a country like Iran, where a tourist was given 130 lashes for drinking two beers at a party in a park.
(Todays Worldnetdaily Pg 2). The Islamophrenic 'moral police' in Turkey would be worse, if thats possible. Living under sharia law is no fun. Non-Islamic Turks like to have fun, they like singing and danceing. Why, some of them actually tell jokes, and laugh lot. A secular Turk knows how to have fun. Why should they give that up? And for what? Allah? Allah hates fun, unless it's his own. (What Allah thinks is fun is another topic).
Where Islam sticks up its ugly head, fun and good times disappear...the secularist winners wont be all that good themselves, but they will be far better than Islamic rule.

Posted by: duh_swami at May 17, 2007 12:24 PM

Now the word seems to be "secularists" rather than "moderate Muslims." Are these "secularists" supposed to be regarded as:

1) People who were never Muslims -- Greeks, Jews, Armenians, et al.

2) People who were born into a kind of going-through-the-rituals-but-don't-believe-a-word-of-it Islam, because it is just easier that way.

3) People who hate the "real Muslims" as they call them, but when abroad, or when talking to Infidels, call themselves -- it just gives them a damned identity that they think they, and everyone must possess -- "Muslims" but either with a telling adjective, such as "cultural," so that they become "cultural Muslims" or with some other modifyier, indicated by some suprasegemental feature -- tone or pitch to indicate irony, or even facial grimaces or hand gestures, to distance themselves from the word "Muslim" even while employing it.

4) People who, not looking too deeply into Islam, call themselves forthrightly "Muslims" and think that all the bad stuff "isn't the real Islam" or "shouldn't be the real Islam" or (and this is also a favorite of some of the most naive American "war-of-ideas-strategists") think it helps to actually misread Islam and engage in a kind of Make-Believe about it, for this, some may think is the only way.

There are other categories.

But this is a start, for the taxonomy of what were called only a week or two ago, by newspapers and those identified with the oft-repeated formula "moderate Muslims are the solution," and today have become, presto-chango, "secularists."

Keep your eye not on the ball, but on the words employed, and by whom, and what they may, or most likely, or can only, mean.

Posted by: Hugh at May 17, 2007 12:26 PM

"Setting aside their differences to combat the threat of Turkey becoming an Islamic state"

Err, actually Turkey is already an Islamic state. 99% of the population is Islamic which would basically define it as, well an Islamic state. And whether or not it is an Islamic Republic or a Secular Republic or a Banana Republic for that matter, the Turks remain aggressive opportunists who are seeking to dominate initially the eastern Mediterranean region (through their continued threats against and occupation of neighbouring countries), and eventually the conquest of Europe through membership of the European Union, soon to be re-named the United States of Europe. So all this cheering for the secularists is pretty pointless - whether they are Secularists or Islamists, they remain Turks and they remain aggressive and expansionist.

Posted by: GreekFrenchInfidel at May 17, 2007 12:27 PM

I think their chances are zero in the long run.

As far as I know, the Secular Turks are mainly the city dwellers and the Radical Turks are mainly from the country and they outnumber the city dwellers. From what I know, the tailors who sell headscarfs - business is brisk.

The motion to directly elect the President by the people is a smart move. It ensures that he will be from the Islamic party in a legitimate fashion.

And again, in the long run, I think Ataturks vision will be eroded and eventually Islam will dominate the country - unless something happens.

Posted by: UK Infidel Lover at May 17, 2007 12:29 PM

Excellent and more proof that Muslims can indeed form secular governments and work things out without bombs and heheadings.
Way to go children of Esau.

Posted by: Lame Cherry at May 17, 2007 1:31 PM

Turkey is the tip of the iceberg’s meltdown.The secularists of Turkey have their work cut-out for them. Islamists, of all type, are not prone to sit on the sidelines. Those doing so are simply cheerleaders, whose aim is to cheer on those of a radical bent.
The scourge, that is Islam, is permeating the world, unlike it has ever in world history. It is a body of true-believers whom feel they have caught the big wave… and, in truth, it will be cataclysmic, Tsunami-like, the likes of which will set humankind back into a new dark-age.
The reason for my overt pessimism is because, the civilized world chooses to stick its head in its, most, substantial cavity.
The President has been vilified; more importantly, as Commander-in-Chief he has been de-balled. America remains, for the moment, the bastion of Western-Democracy. Not the watered-down versions, one sees in pathetic Europe and elsewhere. It isn’t the war on terror we are losing. It is the war with the Fifth Column within, which has destabilized and betrayed democracy.

Posted by: Misanthrope at May 17, 2007 1:39 PM

l think this is very telling if secular muslim parties unite to fight the islamists. this should send a signal to all non muslims to unite to fight the threat against islmaist and islam as it is now. very good lessons indeed.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at May 17, 2007 5:16 PM

"Setting aside their differences to combat the threat of Turkey becoming an Islamic state"

..becoming an islamic state?! Fer Chrisssakes they are members of the OIc and their head of state sees minarets as bayonest in the conquest of Free Europe!

They are barbarians pure and pure! Some of us Europeans KNOW what they are!

Turkey is Turkey and will always be Turkey.

Keep them AWAY from Europe. Europeans are too naive to deal with these doubletalking backstabbers and cheats.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at May 18, 2007 1:14 AM