Muslims hate the truth , especially when the infidels know it....The more the Muslims attack, the more truth about Islam we know....Their tactics are becoming known as is their agenda....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at May 17, 2007 10:43 AM

There can be NOTHING more insidious than the planting of mosques in poor black neighborhoods. This is an outrage.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at May 17, 2007 11:11 AM

But think about it...

The beast chases the whole herd.
Yes, but who falls into its clutches of the beast?
The poor, the weak, the infirm, the helpless.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at May 17, 2007 11:13 AM

exsgtbrown, if that is so then why are they gaining any lead at all? I don't think that people are correlating the two - their violence and that the muslim they see at work, or on the street, is the same muslim that commits the violence. Or maybe I should say that it is the same religion of the muslim they see that is committing so much violence around this globe.

Either way I say it - they are not questioning 'moderate' muslims and their teachings. They can get an article that says muslims were caught in a Fort Dix plot, one of the mothers say her boy was 'so religious' and not say - HEY!! how come he is religious and wanting to kill - what the heck is that islam teaching?! Or how come they use a mouse to teach children in the ME about death and murder - jihad. Didn't they tell us that jihad is an 'inner struggle'?! How come they dance and ulalate when suicide bombers blow up innocents and call them martyrs when they told us they are distorting the religion?!

Are they putting it together? How come other countries who went through decades of violence of torture and death are now mostly muslim (eg: Indonesia). Didn't that population see the problem and do something about it? Or how about Lebanon? Or even Europe - firstly the Eastern bloc, but now in the West too?

Now, we see Canada is cooing the muslims while the violence is not only more in our faces but on this continent. I will say the violence here is not as great as in other nations - but do we have to have it raise to that level?

The USA is doing the same. Say something bad about islam and you are labeled an Islamophobe (I am one, thankfully). The Universities have no problem bashing Christians and Jews, but tiptoe around the muslims while letting them censor, and teach our young their religion in our classrooms, in the guise of some other words such as civilization, or politics, or whatever. If you blog the wrong thing about islam/muslims you will be censored (on other sites) due to fears of CAIR. How come the saudis are able to fund their crap here?! Even after they found proof in Bosnia that the saudi 'royalty' was involved in 9/11, and we know that they are purposefully spreading wahabbism here and abroad??!!

We have strong left wing forces in Canada, Europe and America - don't they ever see that appeasing the muslims only gets them more violence because the muslims want more and more of them? When will they crack open a koran and see that muslims will eventually turn on them too because they are not muslim.

Posted by: R_not at May 17, 2007 11:20 AM

Fight them with every weapon and stratedgy of war'
Legal intimidation is just another tactic in Islams bag of dirty tricks. Since they have everything to hide, in order to gain, they are forced into the strange position of trying to make it appear, that the lie is the truth, that the unreal is real. They have run into the 'divine paradox'. That is, that none of this is real, but if you cut yourself, you will bleed just the same. Thats why Islam is bleeding.
Islam has lots of tricks in its bag. Why does it need them? Because without them, Islam will fall into ruin, and bleed to death. Thats why every muslim is 'obligated', to participate in, and support jihad. The lie, (the glue that holds Islam together), must be maintained, so lives must be sacrificed on the black alter of Allah. Since Islam has been in a constant jihad against non-believers since its inception,
all muslims are jihadists, and all muslims will use, freely, from the Islamic bag of dirty tricks. Everytime you hear a defense of Islam, or an action of some kind, you can be sure some muslim, or apologist somewhere, has his/her hand in the bag...

Posted by: duh_swami at May 17, 2007 11:36 AM

R_not

The experiment of assimilation here in the States has been very successful with all immigrant groups. So we ASSUME it will work with Muhammadans.

Actually, I could have been optimistic. Could have been.

If immigration of muhammadans happened slowly over time and G-Dub the dhimwit hadn't decided to casually invade Afghanistan and Iraq (slam dunks,no?) and so create a fulcrum for izlamic fanatacism from now until dooomsday...

If 9-11 hadn't happpened.

If muslims weren't muslims.

Now I know too much.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at May 17, 2007 11:36 AM

Muslims hate the truth

Posted by: exsgtbrown

This story has a great beginning: how Ahmed Mansour, an Egyptian Muslim, came to America and found his local Cambridge ISB mosque sporting an extremist agenda. He then started telling others about it.

I'm guessing Sheikh Dr. Ahmed Subhy Mansour is the same man; writer, independent Islamic scholar, and board member of The Free Muslims Coalition.

He has written The Prophets in the Holy Quran. Cairo, 1985. (from freemuslims.org)This book, which was banned, was the writer's most dangerous book. It proves the human nature of the prophet Mohammed, and the contradiction between his presentation in the Quran and the images of him fabricated by Muslim fanatics. Using the Quranic verses, it demonstrates that the prophet Mohammed was not infallible, he is not the master of the prophets, and he will not intercede on behalf of Muslims on the Day of Judgment, as Muslims believe according to the Abbasy religious traditions.

I believe this is one Muslim all JihadWatchers can stand behind.

Posted by: deesine at May 17, 2007 11:39 AM

deesine...as long as he (Mansour), accepts Allah as his god, I will stand behind him...way behind him...

Posted by: duh_swami at May 17, 2007 11:50 AM

Studies have shown that the Quran spends around 53 pct. of the 6,100 versus that are found in its 114 surahs attacking infidels. One only has to begin reading the first few pages of the Quran and before you even read nearly a single word of Mohammeds Ideology it is already denigrating infidels.

Most Islamic experts agree that Islam may be as much as 80 Pct. political as opposed to its religous doctrine.

Thus Islams entire foundation is based on an aggressive ideology of subjigating, suppressing, or in this case silencing the infidel in anyway possible, and of course if that does not work than they resort to the dar-al-harb, (the abode of war) .

The threat of Islam is real, more so than communism ever was, because with Islam, Muslim activists are willing to kill and to die for the cause of spreading their religion.
The United States was built on the Bill of Rights, established by the founding fathers who came here to escape religious oppression. The Constitution gives citizens the right to express themselves as they please, to criticize the president if they believe he is wrong, to worship in the way they want and to act in any way they see appropriate as long as they don't violate the rights of others.

What would happen to this freedom in an Islamic state? Would the citizens be granted the right to choose the religion they want, or would they be forced into Islam according to the Quranic verse: "If any one desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him, and in the hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost." (Surah 3:85). How about the right of a Muslim to change his own religion? Would he be given this right or would he be punished according to the apostasy rule which states that such a person should be punished by death? Mohammed said "Whoever changes his religion, kill him." Al Bukhari Vol. 9:57

Still there are way to many of us infidels who have not taken the time to understand this aggressive Ideology that is dangerously given a pass time and time again because it is falsely defined as only a religion, rather than an ideology that wants to govern all aspects of human life under a caliphate.

It is way long overdue to start asking the right questions to our political leaders, to demand that they have a clear and working knowledge of how Islam works to get its way in the world either through war or intimidation.

They are determined to succeed at all costs and as we all should know, the factual examples are too numerous and easy for all to see.

Posted by: Mackie at May 17, 2007 11:57 AM

In America I see some interesting demographics

"More than 20 percent of children in the United States either are foreign-born or have a parent who was born abroad. Nearly half the children under age 5 are Hispanic, black or Asian"

....what is the allegiance of the foreign born parents and that of their children? ....THe Hispanics are clearly showing they want America to be Mexican.....The Blacks and the Asians are very diverse.....

....The whites are engulfed by dhimmicrats, the leftist PC crowd and too many people running around with personal agendas...

....The problem, in my own opinion, is the country, as a whole, is not focused or committed to victory and may or may not even recognize the Islamic threat before them...

BUt , we are learning....As the mUSLIMS CONTINUE to pursue a violent agenda...we are learning...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at May 17, 2007 11:58 AM

I appreciate Mansour's efforts. But to know the truth about Islam is to despise Islam. So Mansour is just whistling in the dark. I have to agree with duh_swami.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at May 17, 2007 12:00 PM

Well, I'll walk with him in the dark, because I have a 12-guage and infrared goggles.

Posted by: Miss_Anthrope at May 17, 2007 12:10 PM

exsgtbrown:
BUt , we are learning....As the mUSLIMS CONTINUE to pursue a violent agenda...we are learning...

I hope you are learning you should be busy in bed with your wife producing children like there is no tomorrow...

in defense of the West

Posted by: UK Infidel Lover at May 17, 2007 12:16 PM

UK Infidel Lover -

If you look at our "Red" states you'll see that's exactly what they're doing. And although the US isn't up where I'd like, we're way ahead of the EU in the birth rate. I think our red states are behind that.

When I saw the stats, I thought about all my friends back in TX. I can't think of but 1 childless couple. Actually, most people I know have 2-5 kids each.

The problem can be with those kids in school, where our public education system strangles all thoughtfulness out of their heads. That could be where we lose to dhimmitude or even to Islam itself.

Posted by: Miss_Anthrope at May 17, 2007 12:39 PM

The only way Muslims can be successful at silencing anyone is if they have apologists in the media, political world, academic world and misguided clergy in the religious world, to support them with screams of "intollerance" and "discrimination."

Our own home-grown Islamic appologists are worse than the Saudis.

Posted by: rational at May 17, 2007 12:45 PM

Ynkedoodl2, I don't understand what you are trying to say. You are saying Afghanistan and Iraq are the problem with all the muslim violence? Please tell me then, what did the Buddhists and Hindus do. Or what did the Lebanonese do decades ago to now deserve the torture and death they have gotten by letting the muslims into their lands. Tell me what the Thai have done.

You think it was ok for us to go into Bosnia and Kosovo and help them slaughter more Christians, as Clinton did? Then that will be ok? If so, then why did they continue to attack us if we did them that favor? The only problem I have is a question as to why Prince abdulaziz (I think that is how you spell the freaks name), name was found all over documents and computers concerning the before and after pics of the World Trade Towers downfall in Bosnia and nothing was done to the Saudis and why they are still infiltrating our lands.

Only the "I hate Bush" crowd thinks that only Bush is responsible for all of this when it is many preceding presidents, especially Clinton, who enables the radicals. But the culprit is... islam itself, the koran and the hadiths.

Bush actually fought back and went against the Saudi wishes since they only were concerned about Hussein when he went outside of his lines. Now they want Bush in there to protect the sunni - I say let the Saudis protect the sunni. Neither the Sunni or shiites are worthy of our guys dying for them. (yes, Hugh has convinced me to rethink this war)

Posted by: R_not at May 17, 2007 1:09 PM

Assimilation, freedom of speech and tolerance are not and never shall be part of the Islamic vocabulary or mindset.
The myth-spinners within the leftist collective from the media and throughout other Western institutions hold a death-wish. The incessant kowtowing to Islamist bigotry would be a laugh, if it was not so serious. These comrades dwell in an inner-sanctum of self-righteousness; moreover, they embolden Islamists, from the radical, to the so-called moderates. The latter, of course, is a figment of multiculturists, who, too, live in a bubble.
Eventually, Islam will worm its way into the core of our nation with a helping hand from the seditious left.
The proof is in the internal demonisation of Western principles, upon which our civilization was nurtured and evolved.
Sadly, even those of us aware of the ominous consequences, that are not far down road, disseminate our knowledge and fears and not much else. The criticism is aimed at me, as well.
Yes, this fraternity is vital but there are millions out there, who voluntarily and others unknowingly, swallowing these leftists’ seditious and toxic-trash, forced into their dullard brains.
Again, I rabbit-on! Sorry!

Posted by: Misanthrope at May 17, 2007 1:21 PM

duh_swami,

Standing far behind may be the best choice, especially if Dr. Mansour's digestive tract reacts to ful medames the way mine does.

Posted by: deesine at May 17, 2007 1:21 PM

"The United States was built on the Bill of Rights, established by the founding fathers who came here to escape religious oppression. The Constitution gives citizens the right to express themselves as they please, to criticize the president if they believe he is wrong, to worship in the way they want and to act in any way they see appropriate as long as they don't violate the rights of others. "

"What would happen to this freedom in an Islamic state?" Posted by Mackie

Sadly not very many people in this country have figured that out yet...G-D help us if at some point in our nations future, the islamists obtain a majority in this country, politically and otherwise we will see our nations history obliterated. National monuments, historical documents, artifacts, our religions threatened not to mention any freedoms we have.

The Bill of Rights and The Constitution, will cease to exist, right along with any rights they granted us.

Posted by: gaelen at May 17, 2007 1:28 PM

I do not see this as some a bad happening as the leftist has been using the court system as a weapon against Americans for 45 years. Gun control, aborticide, homosexual agendas to the "children's rights" which in effect gives children adult rights which includes sex (This abhorence is advocated by the Kerry campaign and was stated by his daughters at the DNC.) and sounds exactly like pedophilia.

All this does is expose this menace which President Bush and Republicans have been trying to reign in with appointments of people like Roberts and Scalia who are making huge inroads already.

Let CAIR screw with Americans, because Democrats will have another loosing issue and Republicans catering to the likes of Dinesh D'Souza will have to flush him for his ignorant work and then America can start repairing all this leftist propaganda.

Posted by: Lame Cherry at May 17, 2007 1:30 PM

The baggage that is the US legal system makes our system of government like an over-reinforced concrete bridge. In a properly designed bridge, the amount of steel is strictly limited so that the reinforcement slowly fails, causing the bridge to flex and crack on the bottom when it is overloaded.

In the past, some engineers have made the mistake of putting in too much steel (you can’t be too safe). But what happens in this case is the steel doesn’t fail, the concrete fails. And the failure is explosive.

World history can be boiled down to two different frameworks. The first is based around lawyers, guns, and money. The second is based around guns and money. The two seem to cycle.

Posted by: pez at May 17, 2007 1:50 PM

R_not

Ynkedoodl2, I don't understand what you are trying to say. You are saying Afghanistan and Iraq are the problem with all the muslim violence?

Heck no.

I'm saying that I might have been more hopeful about integrating and assimilating Muhammadans before 2001. Since then, I (me, myself and I)have become convinced that assimilation of muhammadans is impossible.

Moslem-Moslem violence has been going on since the fiend muhammad croaked. Iraq is now a pressure cooker for those same sectarian disputes (to be always resolved in bloodshed).

My post discussed the changing of my attitudes. Bloody internecine feuds among the muhammadans are nothing new.

But they are going to get worse. Due to current circumstances we cannot allow Muhammadans into the USA and I do not expect the circumstances or my attitude to change.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at May 17, 2007 2:17 PM

ps.

I am a proud member of the "I hate Bush" club. He is responsible for destroying the secular nation of Iraq. If he did it intelligently with an eye to fomenting a Muslim vs. Muslim 100-year-war, I would have kissed his ass. But he's a complete ass-clown who still thinks he's bringing peace, prosperity and democracy to "ordinary moms and dads."

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at May 17, 2007 2:22 PM

Off topic:

Comic in US 'hate speech' row

Article and URL to video here.

Ummah News Links

Posted by: ummahnewslinks at May 17, 2007 2:28 PM

I'm surprised Robert, Hugh, Daniel Pipes and Charles Johnson of LGF didn't end up on the list. Looks like they're going after everyone and their mother who is an "Islamophobe". Why the hell is Steven Emerson getting sued for this as well?

Posted by: wrathofasma at May 17, 2007 2:34 PM

Maybe we should to bring back CIA-sponsored assasinations. Someone needs to 'silence' these Islamic leaders in America before they get a chanve to massacre anymore innocent American people!

ps-YankeeDoodle2:

Iraq under Saddam Hussein may not have been a "religious state" but what you do not realize is that Islam is a political ideology as much as it is a "religious" idelogy. Therefore it is not correct to assume that Saddam Hussein was unIslamic or that Iraq was a 'secular' state under him as you believe (it wasn't).

Iraq was a politically-oriented Islamic state as opposed to a 'religious' state. But it was plenty dangerous as all Islamic states invariable are. Iraq's Baathist party had affiliations with Nazism to boot. Saddam Hussein's government was absolutely no less brutal than any other Islamic dictatorship and was no more trustworthy than any other Islamic state either. Saddam Hussein's regime had no respect for human life, which is highly typical of virtually all Islamic states. It is really no skin off your nose (or anyone else's) that Iraq is biting the dust (Iraq had only been in in existence since the 1920s anyway, I'll give the Brits the dubious honor of having establishing the place). If only all the other Islamic states would vamoose from the world stage in a similar fashion!

Posted by: pythagoras at May 17, 2007 3:10 PM

...and Dhimmi Carter never met a terrorist he did not like...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at May 17, 2007 4:47 PM

Off topic:

Comic in US 'hate speech' row

Article and URL to video here.

Ummah News Links

Posted by: ummahnewslinks

Yea i heard this guy on The Bob and Tom show on 95.5 a couple of weeks back talking about veils and the skin flap.every once in a while Bob and Tom will toss in a joke aimed at islam,kinda like tossing in a grenade and looking around wondering who toosed it in.......funny.

Posted by: Dar al-harb at May 17, 2007 5:41 PM

The gravest terrorist threat in the world today is Islamophobia, foreign ministers of the Organization of the Islamic Conference said this week.

“It is something that has assumed xenophobic proportions,” they said.

The ministers described Islamophobia as a deliberate defamation of Islam and discrimination and intolerance against Muslims. They accused Western media of misrepresenting Islam and Muslims worldwide, according to a report in Arab News.

“The linkage of terrorists and extremists with Islam in a generalized manner is unacceptable," the ministers said.

- http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,273312,00.html

Those poor, dear Muslims—so misunderstood and mistreated. Let's all find a poor misunderstood Muslim and give them a hug. Let's tell these maligned people that we are sorry for repeating their scriptures, their prophet, their history without properly sugar-coating them. Let's tell them we are sorry for feeling alarmed—fearing we are to become like the slaughtered and enslaved people of Egypt, Anatolia, Tripoli, Carthage, Persia and so many others if we don't speak about their politics/religion. If reciting their scriptures and history is defamation and resisting political and cultural reconstruction is discrimination and intolerance, I'm sorry kind Muslim, I'm guilty.

I hope they choose a peaceful, tolerant way to kill me...

Posted by: St. David, King of Georgia at May 17, 2007 5:55 PM

They in turn learned it from the 5th column from within, as it proved an effective tactic for them as well.

Posted by: jcom972 at May 17, 2007 6:37 PM

re. the statement from the OIC. Their bullying is amazing. The fact we're even listening to their crap is beyond belief. Who ARE these people to tell US how to run our countries?

Let me go thru the impertinencies contained in this article:

“The linkage of terrorists and extremists with Islam in a generalized manner is unacceptable," the ministers said.

UNACCEPTABLE??!! Ya gotta be JOKING pal! The KKKoran and the ACTIONS of your minions is what creates this linkage.

"The increasingly negative political and media discourse targeting Muslims and Islam in the United States and Europe has made things all the more difficult," the foreign ministers said, according to the report.

AND? Do I care that they think "things are all the more difficult"? Let's not deal with one another then. We certainly can get along JUST FINE without moslems for the rest of eternity.

“This campaign of calumny against Muslims resulted in the publication of the blasphemous cartoons depicting Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) in a Danish newspaper and the issuance of the inflammatory statement by Pope Benedict XVI,” the ministers said.

EXCUSE ME?! This is called Freedom of the press. Something you obviously know nothing about since the only book you jackasses ever read is "mein KKKoran". WE publish our cartoons which are harmlessly objective and these sagvages go on a worldwide rampage.

Contrast that with their teaching materials their curricula. Jihad Mouse comes to mind here. Not to mention copyright infringement. The countless madrazas where they dehumanizxe any and all who don't follow their braindead idiotic cult.

So spare me, biatch! Go tell it to the Marines.

The ministers said the Islamophobic terror threat predates this decade, but worsened on Sept. 11, 2001.

Islamophobic terror threat? I **WISH**! If only to teach you bve careful when you cry wolf.

“Islamophobia became a source of concern, especially after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, but the phenomenon was already there in Western societies in one form or the other," they said.

Well, for US Pigslam became a concern after 9/11. For the more aware among is it had already been a concern before then. Just that the fools in charge of our countries [POLOticians, 'journalists', acedemics] are carelessly discarding our freedoms piece by piece because they lack the mental straightforwardness to respond to these sort of provocations with anything but stone-cold rejection.

“It gained further momentum after the Madrid and London bombings. The killing of Dutch film director Theo van Gogh in 2004 was used in a wicked manner by certain quarters to stir up a frenzy against Muslims."

The "islamophobic terror threat" which I have yet to see materialize while they bomb the trains of London, Mumbai and Madrid.

Hey, who exactly killed Theo Van Gogh, bitch? it's obviously your moosleems why are "in a frenzy", murdering the citizens of countries who've been kind [I say FOOLISH] enough to take them in?!

This is how moooosleeems pay us back for our generosity!

Stab our filmamkers on our very own streets!

Rampage about some harmlessly objective cartoons!

That is exactly WHY we don't want any moooosleeems in our Lands!!

What can I say to this impertinence but: Puck Fislam!

Posted by: Allahfanculo at May 17, 2007 10:54 PM