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May 17, 2007

US argues for extradition of jihadist cleric from UK

American officials argue that Abu Hamza, the one-eyed, hook-handed jihadist cleric from Britain, was involved "in a global conspiracy to wage terrorist attacks on the U.S. and other Western countries." Hugo Keith's remark is noteworthy: "He advocated the defense of Islam through unlawful, violent and armed aggression." Quite apt.

"U.S. argues for extradition of radical Islamic cleric," by Tariq Panja for The Associated Press:

LONDON (AP) — The United States argued Thursday for the extradition of a radical Islamic cleric imprisoned in Britain, accusing him of involvement in a global conspiracy to wage terrorist attacks on the U.S. and other Western countries.

Abu Hamza al-Masri has been charged in the United States with trying to establish a terrorist training camp in Oregon, conspiring to take hostages in Yemen and facilitating terrorist training in Afghanistan.

He is serving a seven-year sentence in Britain for fomenting racial hatred and urging his followers to kill non-Muslims.

"He advocated the defense of Islam through unlawful, violent and armed aggression," Hugo Keith, a lawyer representing the U.S. government, said during a hearing in a London court....

Al-Masri's lawyer, Alun Jones, said the extradition application should be rejected because he believed some of the evidence against the cleric was extracted by torturing a defense witness....

But of course, claiming torture is straight out of the Al-Qaeda playbook.

Keith said the planned training camp in Oregon would have been used to prepare recruits to "kill enemies of Islam" in Afghanistan, training them in weapons use, hand-to-hand combat and martial arts.

"The general allegation is that Mr. Hamza is a member of a global conspiracy to wage jihad against the U.S. and other Western countries," Keith said. "Jihad carried out in numerous parts of the world — the U.K., Afghanistan, Yemen and U.S."

Posted by Robert at May 17, 2007 8:37 PM
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Maybe bush can get to come thru mexico an become an American citizen first, then just let him go. Islam the regilon of peace, remember!

Posted by: AMartinez [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2007 9:05 PM

If they get him, an American would have to clean his butt, instead of a Brit. So be careful what you ask for...

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2007 9:06 PM

Woof...wouldn't want that.

You can keep your Finsbury Freak.

Posted by: Miss_Anthrope [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2007 9:14 PM

The Brits grew him, so they can stew him.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2007 9:28 PM

I wouldnt listen or do a god damn thing the US government asked anyone to do, They have proven to be unworthy of consideration and respect.

Posted by: KAOSKTRL [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2007 9:31 PM

Hey, make sure you get specific on that comment, as there are alot of hard-working govies out there. You'd know that for a fact, 'cause we'd have more attacks happen if we didn't.

"Them's fightin' words!"

Posted by: Miss_Anthrope [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2007 9:55 PM

Here he is, for all who haven't heard it yet:

http://sheikyermami.com/2006/12/20/abu-hamza/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2007 10:09 PM

And what is America going to do with him?

Put him in maximum security at 65,000 dollars a year.

Feed him special Islamic diets for another 20,000 dollars a year.

Pay for his defense for 2 years and forever appeals at several million dollars.

And for what reason? Having this malcontent will not stop one terror event. America has a number of Muslims here stating the same things.

Perhaps the Justice Department should focus on America's own terrorists without importing a dog already in the kennel.

Posted by: Lame Cherry [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 17, 2007 10:17 PM

"Preserve wildlife ! Pickle a muslim !"

Posted by: arjun.sevak [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 2:10 AM

"jihadist cleric"....he's nothing more than an organized crime boss following orders from a false religion.

Islam = a rouge satanic religious cult that hails murder/mayhem as its form of worship to allah, the lord of the underworld.

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 2:25 AM

I prefer to consult a taxidermist on that one...lol

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 2:25 AM

This Captain Hook character brings out the crocodile lover in me. Bring him on over and let's deliver him to the reptile house at the Bronx Zoo.

Posted by: jewdog [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 3:08 AM

How come these lawyers, judges and prosecuters totally ignore the existence of the AQ playbook? Why has nobody ever whipped it out in court and confronted these turds with that stuff?

How come everyone seems so overly eager to accept the outrageous claims of these jihad freaks that they have been 'tortured'- as in no CD-player, a ball that doesn't bounce and soap without fragrance? I think we need judges that automatically add 10 years to the sentence as soon as one of them claims 'torture'

This whole politically correct disease seems to rob everyone of reason and sanity.

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 3:18 AM

let him serve his 7 year sentence in UK, then extradite him, convict him, and give him at least 10-20 more years in prison...

...it is important to keep thugs like this 7th century moron off the streets as long as possible...

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 6:37 AM

There's a lot of irony here.

Abu "ah harr mateys" Hamza fought in bosnia, killing those evil blood thirsty Serbs.

He was equiped with Iranian weapons flown in with US approval.

http://rpc.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1997/iran.htm

Go on , read that republican report

I'll do a weak impression of Moron Spamclair and paste a couple of paragraghs.

"" . . . The Iranian presence and influence [in Bosnia] jumped radically in the months following the green light. Iranian elements infiltrated the Bosnian government and established close ties with the current leadership in Bosnia and the next generation of leaders. Iranian Revolutionary Guards accompanied Iranian weapons into Bosnia and soon were integrated in the Bosnian military structure from top to bottom as well as operating in independent units throughout Bosnia. The Iranian intelligence service [VEVAK] ran wild through the area developing intelligence networks, setting up terrorist support systems, recruiting terrorist 'sleeper' agents and agents of influence, and insinuating itself with the Bosnian political leadership to a remarkable degree. The Iranians effectively annexed large portions of the Bosnian security apparatus [known as the Agency for Information and Documentation (AID)] to act as their intelligence and terrorist surrogates. This extended to the point of jointly planning terrorist activities. The Iranian embassy became the largest in Bosnia and its officers were given unparalleled privileges and access at every level of the Bosnian government." (page 201)

For example, one such group about which details have come to light is the Third World Relief Agency (TWRA), a Sudan-based, phoney humanitarian organization which has been a major link in the arms pipeline to Bosnia. ["How Bosnia's Muslims Dodged Arms Embargo: Relief Agency Brokered Aid From Nations, Radical Groups," Washington Post, 9/22/96; see also "Saudis Funded Weapons For Bosnia, Official Says: $300 Million Program Had U.S. 'Stealth Cooperation'," Washington Post, 2/2/96] TWRA is believed to be connected with such fixtures of the Islamic terror network as Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman (the convicted mastermind behind the 1993 World Trade Center bombing) and Osama Binladen, a wealthy Saudi emigre believed to bankroll numerous militant groups. [WP, 9/22/96] (Sheik Rahman, a native of Egypt, is currently in prison in the United States; letter bombs addressed to targets in Washington and London, apparently from Alexandria, Egypt, are believed connected with his case. Binladen was a resident in Khartoum, Sudan, until last year; he is now believed to be in Afghanistan, "where he has issued statements calling for attacks on U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf."

Unfortunately, it didn't change under Dubya, who, in his first address after 911 called Islam the "religion of peace" - hey, thickie! 1,000's of your own citizens have been brutally murdered, and you can't even get a simple revenge speech right?

It gets worse.

A mere two months before 9 11 , the US army drove into Macedonia and saved a large group of Mujahideen who'd been surrounded by the Macedonian Army. The army was just about to send them to their 72 - or whatever - virgins , when in came the cavalry , carefully laid on air conditioned buses for the Mujahideen and deposited them - with arms - out of harms way , further upstream , where they immmediately started to wipe out an infidel Macedonian village.

"This was confirmed a month later, when a force of 400 KLA fighters was surrounded in the town of Aracinovo near the capital, Skopje. As Macedonian security forces moved in, they were halted on NATO orders. U.S. army buses from Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo arrived to remove all the heavily armed terrorists to a safer area of Macedonia. German reporters later revealed that 17 U.S. military advisors were accompanying the KLA terrorists in Aracinovo

http://www.deltax.net/bissett/a-terrorism.htm

Abu's our creation folks. We were calling him and his ilk, "freedom fighters" when it was some less than human Serb being tortured to death.

The Serbs were trying to warn of us. We didn't listen. I mean, how could Abu and Bin and Mr. Atta be anything less than freedom loving lads?

What are you? Some kind of Islamophobe?

Posted by: ewha1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 7:18 AM

jewdog: "let's deliver him to the reptile house at the Bronx Zoo"

The reptiles would reject bad meat - not good for the digestion!

Posted by: Sencit [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 7:37 AM

Americans might like to know that this dude has recently been treated for gangrene...could not happen to a nicer guy.

His left stump was whittled down a bit.

See
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6662189.stm

and

http://tinyurl.com/3ygn98
http://preview.tinyurl.com/3ygn98

Posted by: UK Infidel Lover [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 7:41 AM

From UK infidellover,

"could not happen to a nicer guy"

oh so true.

So he's lost his other arm has he?

Chokes back the tears

The joke used to be"At least we know which hand he wanks with"

Time to think of a new punchline.

Posted by: ewha1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 7:58 AM

ewha1:
So he's lost his other arm has he?

He has lost both arms and an eye for some time.
Abu Hamza like to pretend (if I recall correctly) that it was all lost in a Jihad opeation for Allah but the truth is he carelessly mishandled a bomb in a terrorism training camp, it went off...
A spy (for us that is) reported in the Sunday Times that he had attended a terrorism training camp and he had mentioned to Abu Hamza at a Mosque, the name of his training leader on bombs (who had been Abu Hamza's trainer) and knew the truth of how Abu Hamza gained his injuries. Abu Hamza's face dropped and he quietly asked him not to mention this to anyone else in the Mosque.

The joke used to be"At least we know which hand he wanks with"

Hrrrmmm , it would not surprise me if it was a f####ing European Human Rights directive!!! Perhaps he needs special prosthetic attachments, who knows.

Posted by: UK Infidel Lover [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 8:53 AM

This guy should not be shipped to Club Guantanamo but instead shipped back to Egypt, his native country.

He is wanted to help Egyptian police with some terrorist incidents that happened in the past.
If he does get shipped, I have no doubt what will happen and I dont care.


Posted by: UK Infidel Lover [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 8:56 AM

Let the U.S have him I say. The UK judicial system is so screwed with political correctness it's a wonder that terrorists haven't been given special cultural recognition, free from the threat of prosecution for arranging murders. Oh I forgot, we have.

Why do you think that the "Hamza brigade" are so keen to keep him in Britain?

We have the most spineless politicians, a legal system that puts the rights of the majority below the rights of people like "captain hook" and a pro islamic media agenda.

At least the Americans have the balls to say "you screw us, we'll screw you".

Send Hamza to the U.S., the CIA are just itching to get their hands on him, they won't be constrained by the ridiculous self hating culture that my countries' politicians have been pushing for the last decade.

Political correctness, the islamists tool.


Posted by: DaveMate [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 9:41 AM

Hamza came up with the idea of WMD. Women of mass destruction. The idea was to turn the womb into a bomb manufacturing plant. That is to have children for the express purpose of making human bombs of them. It would be hard to imagine evil worse than this, but we dont have to imagine it. Islamophrenics from the Ummah show us plenty of it, on a daily basis...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 10:06 AM

Dear Lame cherry.

You cant trust European's to jail anyone. Germany recently traded terrorists for citizens. Who's to say a futer weak-kneed English government does not trade him for three Englishmen. Three English leftists seized protesting US action in the midest for example.

If we have evidence to convict him. Bring him to the US.

Posted by: Ruebacca [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 11:16 AM

Crikey, we've handed over assorted UK citizens accused by the USA (but not convicted by the UK) of white collar crimes, so we'll all be pissed off if we can't hand over this vile creature.

Posted by: Celsius [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 12:34 PM

Gitmo beckons; I say he should be sent on all-expenses-paid trip to Cuba (or at least part of the island of Cuba). Couldn't happen to a nastier man, someone who helped inspire mass murder.

Posted by: The Northumbrian [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 19, 2007 12:21 AM

Most of us would be more than happy for you to have Hooky - if you really want him that much ;)

Posted by: Un:dhimmi [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 19, 2007 4:52 AM

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