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In "Islam's War for World Mastery" in the New York Sun (thanks to Andrew Bostom), Ephraim Karsh, author of Islamic Imperialism, concludes a discussion of a recent piece by Bernard Lewis with this dead-on observation:
This is not to deny that American failures to respond to rogue actions and terrorist attacks have been harmful to its deterrent image, or that Osama bin Laden has misconstrued certain American setbacks for an indication of its diminishing resolve.Yet it was not America's perceived weakness that brought about the September 11 attacks, as Mr. Lewis argues, but rather its undeniable prowess. This is because Mr. bin Laden and other Islamists' war is not against America per se but is rather the most recent manifestation of the millenarian jihad for a universal Islamic empire, the umma.
As the preeminent world power for quite some time, and the only remaining superpower after the collapse of the Soviet empire, America blocks the final realization of this goal and hence is a natural target for aggression. In this sense, the House of Islam's war for world mastery is a traditional, indeed venerable, quest that is far from over.
Posted by Robert at May 18, 2007 6:16 AM
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...I am convinced Islam seeks to dominate the world, the evidence is clearly demonstrated by Muslims every day...
...by the way, I suspect the Soviet Union is still a formidable force....they have just been in a state of suspended animation for a while...
....In the meantime, lets slow down the internal Jihad threat and begin by banning Muslim Immigration...
Posted by: exsgtbrown
at May 18, 2007 6:34 AM
This is good information for the Democrats who complain that Bush created more terrorists. I have read over the years several exerpts of OBL, and understand that he fears the West's influence on islam. Islam is a cult that has to kill its apposates, and any cultures ie, West that allows people to question authority is a very large threat to islamists and their clerics, and this is why Israel is one of the largest threats. when muslims can see the prosperity of Israelis and compare that to their poverty, muslim clerics do not want to be percieved as the failures that they really are. So muslim clerics push the blame on the Israelis and Americans, West in general. better to shift the blame on someone else than have your people figure out for themselves who are real culprits.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess
at May 18, 2007 6:50 AM
Yes, all Muslim immigration to the U.S. should be banned.
I really think that the walls of political correctness concerning Muslims are falling as more and more people become aware of The Muslim Menace. Tom Tancredo, for example.
Posted by: darcy
at May 18, 2007 7:34 AM
darcy,
Some of the walls are coming down, but we need to push harder. For example, I don't want this woman to just be "tired and irritated", I want her to drop dead from exhaustion or leave the country. Call it "death brought on by anti-taqiyya"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/016473.php
We are making life too easy for Muslims because we are generally an easy-going people. We need to go at the Muslims ten times harder than we went at the Nazis, since there are ten times more of them. We need to do it soon, too, since the West is rapidly aging and war requires young men in abundance.
Posted by: venividivici
at May 18, 2007 8:12 AM
Lewis has chipped and chipped away at his own monument. Had he not uttered a word about the Oslo Accords, had he not been such a naive enthusiast for the war in Iraq, had he not been repeatedly taken in by the suave, westernized, secularized Arabs and Turks who have patronized him (in every sense, though he has recognized only the good sense), had he a harder sense of what Muslims and the world of Islam is about (the sense of someone more self-assured, and more contemptuous, such as J. B. Kelly), had he not told us, in the ever-welcoming pages of The Wall Street Journal, first that there ought to be a Hashemite (Sunni) monarch set on the throne of Iraq (the aricle, co-signed with James Woolsey, was preposterous in its misunderstanding of the Shi'a and Kurdish resentment of such a thing), had he not continually declared, angrily, that "democracy" was of course not foreign to, not contracted by, the letter and spirit of Islam, and attempted to tell us that the unremarkable fact that caliphs consulted with others somehow could be taken to suggest an implicit or incipient "democratic" spirit -- a contention that wilfully confused the obvious desire to do the islamically correct, the ijra-approved thing, and of course to take advantage of the wisdom or experience of others, which has nothing to do either with "democracy" sensu strictu or sensu lato, and now, unwilling and unable to begin to see how and why he and others were wrong (beginning with their inability to calculate the depth and duration of the sectarian and ethnic fissures, instead blaming them on the Administration's admittedly colossal mis-steps, rather than on something that no Administration could have prevented but that no Administration need have tried to halt, either -- after all this, to finally, in the other day, tell us (or slyly imply) that we should remain in Iraq because it is a "test of wills" (another $880 billion down the drain? How long should expensively trained and expensively maintained American forces remain in Iraq to fight the endlessly replenishable, and dirt-cheap forces of Al-Qaeda, as Lewis pretends the enemy in Iraq is limited to, and why does he ignore the repeated statements of Bin Laden about his successful "economic warfare" against the U.S., the heavy costs that Tarbaby Iraq is taking, literal costs as well as geopolitical and intellectual and moral costs?
He should rescue his own reputation. He should publicly proclaim what was wrong with his analysis and that of others in Iraq. He should cease to be a well-spoken Defender of this Folly. He should not stoop to calling this a kind of schoolyard game of "chicken" but analyze what it is that can be done to weaken the Camp of Islam --- and remaining in Iraq is not it.
He should list, as has been listed here, all the many things the American government can do, as it withdraws -- promptly -- from Iraq to demoonstrate that its withdrawal is not what Al Qaeda will attempt to interpret it as, but as the signal of a much colder, ruthless, implacable, and all-out war to divide and demoralize the Camp of Islam.
Or can't he do that? And if not, why not?
Posted by: Hugh
at May 18, 2007 8:13 AM
Yes, but it goes beyond just finding new targets. It comes down just as much to the fact that when the Soviet Union collapsed, the Muslim world no longer had any non-Muslims to play against each other in games of power-brokering. They'd done it in World War I with an alliance on the losing side. They'd done it in World War II with an alliance with the Nazis -- and the losing side again. And then they played both sides in the Cold War.
Then the Wall came down and it was time for the umma to find a new means of perpetuating Islamic reign across the globe -- and for once it meant more direct action. This is when Islamic terrorism as we have come to know it -- bombs, grenades, beheadings, hijackings -- became a daily reality.
Now their sights are clearly focused on tearing down Europe and the United States and rebuilding us as part of Global Caliphate. It is a course that is leading to a full-blown world war and there is no way off the track that I can see. The Muslims completely misjudge Americans. Americans themselves misjudge Americans. We've temporarily forgotten our resolve, but I see it returning. The ripples are in the water.
When reality slaps America across her face, the retaliation and indignation for being caught flat-footed and foolish is going to be terrible to behold. Be careful what you ask for jihadists -- eventually you're going to get far more than you bargained for.
That's just my honest estimation of the climate today and the long fuse that has been lit.
Posted by: Foehammer
at May 18, 2007 8:15 AM
Assalamau Laikum Darcy,
You say "all Muslim immigration to the U.S. should be banned".
I'm afraid that is like trying to say that you should ban Allah SWT from the Amerike....and that's not possible.
How can you ban the owner from his rightful access...it is a common misunderstanding that you have.
As yet many in the Amerike do not know what is good for them...this is what the Koran Sharif teaches us.
I know that this is at odds with your founding abu....and it is difficult for you but I am hoping that at least your grandaughter(s) will see the light...in the light of all the weapons in the world ...peace is most important..i.e. global Islam.
Posted by: Naseem
at May 18, 2007 8:18 AM
Naseem: God and America are on quite familiar terms, thank you. We are heirs to and have developed a far deeper, richer, and more advanced spirituality than exists in Islam, not to mention a far more advanced political, social, economic and technological culture than Muslims have ever had or could dream of as long as they are hamstrung by their false beliefs.
And our holy books have the advantage of actually being true. They talk about holy individuals, who sacrificed themselves for their sake of their belief, not a 7th Century Arab warlord who, while showing managerial and military competence, demonstrated no remote signs of holiness. The Koran may contain some beautiful language, but it pales beside English or Italian poetry. And Islam's teaching on sacrificial love is simply deficient.
This is not to say Islam is entirely useless -- just retarded in comparison to the West. So no, we have no need of your culture, your purported holy book, or the distorted teachings of your false prophet. Repent of your sinful belief in this false teaching and turn to belief in the one living God.
God bless.
at May 18, 2007 8:43 AM
global Islam
Please. Once the West was destroyed, the idea that Muslims could maintain the infrastructure of globalism, and hence create "global Islam", is ludicrous.
From an engineering standpoint, the only things Muslims can do is build mosques. Building advanced telecommunications or transportation infrastructure, or even maintaining it, is beyond their cognitive and organizational capabilities.
Incidentally, those same cognitive and organizational constraints on the Muslim mind are exactly why you are too stupid to even begin to comprehend how ludicrous the idea of Allah's existence is.
You want to use a "weapons" analogy? "Allah" is the "knife" Muslims bring to the "gunfight" that is Western thought.
Posted by: venividivici
at May 18, 2007 8:46 AM
Naseem says:
“I'm afraid that is like trying to say that you should ban Allah SWT from the Amerike....and that's not possible.”
Hopefully your ‘grand daughters will see the light’ that your ‘allah’ is nothing more than an ancient Arabian moon-god who should have never left the Makkan desert in the first place. There is but one living and true God and I suggest you look to him for answers.
Posted by: descendantofacrusader
at May 18, 2007 8:50 AM
The Soviet empire may have collapsed but Russia has not lost its ability to counter the Islamic threat. Its geographical proximity makes it easier, not harder, for Russia to exercise its own responsibility to the world as a permanent member of the Security Council. Instead, Russia has decided to side with the regime in Tehran.
Posted by: PMK
at May 18, 2007 8:57 AM
Dar al islam, dar al harb.
Wake up and smell the sharia.
Posted by: DaveMate
at May 18, 2007 9:18 AM
Our friend Osama, representative of Islam: The Religion of Peace, calls the United States of America "The Great Satan" and that America must be destroyed. Now we are to believe that America is not the enemy "per se?"
This anyalysis seems to render to the enemy camp an incredibly astute system of thought. Yet, as noted above, we see little evidence of the islamic mind's ability to operate within such a system.
No. Primitive motives of sex, human sacrfice, dominance, and booty are what drives islamic culture.
We should not ascribe the rich and complex qualities of Western thought to such a primitive form of social control as islam.
Posted by: mike trivisonno
at May 18, 2007 9:24 AM
I'm beginning to think that Islamania"s plan all along was a simple one: watch the US vs USSR struggle play out, then take on the weakened winner of that battle (a nuclear war would have been ideal-Islamaniac thinking probably figured the survivors would be more receptive than ever to the Koran). If that's the case, it was quite a shrewd plan. Also, by letting one side defeat the other there would be less chance of another US-USSR alliance to defeat Islamania. If their Uncle Adolf could be defeated by such an alliance then Islamaniacs surely wouldn't have wanted a repetition of that.
Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS
at May 18, 2007 9:29 AM
Naseem sez: I'm afraid that is like trying to say that you should ban Allah SWT from the Amerike....and that's not possible.
Thats right, we cant ban Allah. He is already everywhere, in cesspools, in sewage, in the scum in the bottom of garbage cans. American garbage dumps have tons of Allah.
By the way Naseem, when are you going to learn to spell America?
Posted by: duh_swami
at May 18, 2007 9:55 AM
"When reality slaps America across her face, the retaliation and indignation for being caught flat-footed and foolish is going to be terrible to behold."
What, 9/11 wasn't a reality check?
The christian, we know who the real god is, lol, two sides of the same coin. All religions are deluded, but some are more deluded than others.
Posted by: Ian
at May 18, 2007 10:23 AM
I hope somebody writes a book on the entire history of Islamic Millenialism. If people read it, hopefully their understanding of the present situation in the Islamic world will be greatly improved.
Posted by: Christian
at May 18, 2007 10:50 AM
If you want to build a global empire you need to nock the US down a peg or two. Imperial Japan knew this too. 9/11 and 12/07/1941 have simular stategic calculations and goals.
Posted by: Ruebacca
at May 18, 2007 10:55 AM
Naseem
you want peace on this planet like i do. than all you have to do is denounce mohammed as a terrorist, pedophile, rapist etc. and convert. you have many choices ie christianity, judasim, buddhism, hinduism, sikhisim etc. when you meet uncle mo do give him my regards.
at May 18, 2007 10:57 AM
From Ian: The christian, we know who the real god is, lol, two sides of the same coin. All religions are deluded, but some are more deluded than others.
As far as God is concerned, there is only one side of that coin, and in reality, the coin does not exist. When muslims say 'God is God'. they are correct. When they use the name Allah, they are wrong.
And you are right that religions are deluded to some extent. This is usually due to some uncertain historical perspective, a lack of proper understanding of some point, or a huge ego trip on the part of the religious elite. The religious elite are those who claim that they know more than you do.
This is what leads to bigotry.
But possibly this individual actually does know more than you do. Then what? I would think that one of the purposes of religion is to find a way out of the delusions you refer to...that may take some doing...
at May 18, 2007 11:17 AM
Ephraim Karsh is not dead on, but completely ignorant and wrong.
It was not American prowess which brought on 9 11, but American Monicazation of foreign policy under Bill Clinton. His having oral sex while talking to Arafat and Arafat finding out about it to his trying to get Saudi Arabia to kill bin Laden, instead of doing it himself is what set this off.
bin Laden saw from Les Aspen's (Clinton's Sec of Defense) withdrawal from Somalia after our troops were butchered that America could be hit, brought into a fight in Iraq and Afhganistan and then defeated.
bin Laden believed his army could do it, but found out America defeated him.....he then turned to the whining American public to hand America a defeat just like Vietnam and voila, America is withdrawing just like bin Laden's manifesto is planned.
There are only 3 published people who have this scenario figured out from different perspectives, Jack Cashill, JR Nyquist and someone who only God cares about.
The ignorance is going to get millions of people killed as Carter and Clinton built this demon, Russia now controls it and Russia and China will nuke it when the Eurasian superpowers fight it out.
God keep America safe as the ignorance is setting this nation up for a horrendous fall.
bin Laden only deemed America a target AFTER Zawahiri who had been captured in Chechnya by Russian FSB and turned as their proxy agent, who then approached bin Laden to unionize into al Qaeda....that the fight should be against America.
As we see now the Islamocommunists in proxy for Putin's Russian and the Chicoms (Zawahiri spent a great deal of time in China after his Russian release.) are making war against America covertly.
It is absolutely disgusting the publishers who shill books like this and for sites to laud people who have no understanding of what makes bin Laden tick, Zawahiri tick and what is involved in this war including proxy Islam.
What Mr. Karsh and all the other posting "experts" do not equate is once America withdraws from the Middle East that China will invade as fodder for Russia in response to European militarization in the region due to Egyptian, Libyan and Saudi military build ups to protect themselves, since America got out of Iraq.
Posted by: Lame Cherry
at May 18, 2007 12:00 PM
"All religions are deluded."
"I would think one of the purposes of religion is to find a way out of the delusions you refer to.."
We call that a bob each way.Naseem plays the cool,calm intellectual,lol,then invites us into his fantasy world, rule under islam.When the smoke settles yeah,there'll be plenty of work to do and I know of the famous muslim work ethic.
Worked with a mozzie once,he was confused why the born again Christians were so Godly in such a hedonistic society he thought they were fools,ah the true believers and thier mono-god.
at May 18, 2007 12:25 PM
Naseem -- I want to second "swimmer" on his proposal that you leave Islam. That is a splendid idea, my dear. Leave this death cult and come join the human race. There is life after Islam.
Posted by: champ
at May 18, 2007 12:33 PM
Proxy or not, Russia and China will have to stop Global Jihad the hard way. If the 'Great Satan' America falls to Allah, and other forces, Allah will then attack China and Russia. Hopefully these equally hard headed countrys will do what the weak kneed American leaders could not...push Islam over the cliff...
Posted by: duh_swami
at May 18, 2007 12:40 PM
Ian -- Yes! All religions have their problems. That's because people are involved in carrying out its practices; and since no one is perfect, then no religion is perfect either.
But come on, you cannot equate Islam with other religions, because Islam is in a class by itself.
Or should I say, a cult by itself.
Anyway, I don't consider Islam to be a true religion, but an "organized crime group" with religion as its facade. Than cannot be said of any other RELIGION.
Posted by: champ
at May 18, 2007 12:43 PM
That, not than
Posted by: champ
at May 18, 2007 12:43 PM
Champ...the only thing that qualifies Islam as a religion is the belief in one God. But what are the qualities of thier god Allah? If Allah is not God, by qualities, then Allah is not God. If Allah is not God, then Islam is not a religion.
We can only determine Allahs qualities by the Quran and Hadith. Reasonably intelligent people, with no mental afflictions, who read Islamic literature will quickly come to the conclusion that Allah is not qualified for the job of God. Reject Allah as God, and Islam cant claim religion.
at May 18, 2007 1:03 PM
duh_swami --
Here, here!! You have just won your case against Islam being a "religion". Nice job!
Posted by: champ
at May 18, 2007 1:46 PM
Thank you Mr. Kersh!
I mean, well, golly!!!!! I feel better already!
Ain't that insight one big consolation!!!!!!
We can all sleep better at night now that we've heard THAT explanation for al-Qaeda terrorism!!!!!
Posted by: pythagoras
at May 18, 2007 1:52 PM
We need to do it soon, too, since the West is rapidly aging and war requires young men in abundance.
Posted by: venividivici
Well.. I know a few ways to produce more young men and women.. LOL.
Stop selling birth controls...
Close all bars and pubs early so people have nothing to do.. don't worry, television is so boring it hurts.
at May 18, 2007 3:08 PM
Robert said
concludes a discussion ... with this dead-on observation
It is true that in the past couple of months, there have been brief flashes of truth heard from our media and politicians. I have heard "jihad" described quite accurately in interviews that were unmentioned by JW/DW. Once the topic is no longer verboten, we will see a huge change in public education and opinion, I believe. Kind of like the rapid change we saw regarding the war in Iraq, which JW/DW also was ahead of the public (and media and politicians) on.
Posted by: special_guest
at May 18, 2007 4:00 PM
Allahfanculo said
Stop selling birth controls. Close all bars and pubs early so people have nothing to do.
If the goal is just to have random people making random babies, we'll see more stories like this one, about a couple who put their baby in the microwave.
Quality over quantity. Let's not do things the Muslim way.
Posted by: special_guest
at May 18, 2007 4:09 PM
Nothing less than
"Oh, we don't just hate America & the eeeeevil jews, we hate everyone."
As if this makes a difference at this stage, we here already know this stuff.
Posted by: jcom972
at May 18, 2007 7:29 PM
I saw two AP photos of Israelis hit by Hamas weapons run consecutive days defining as "Islamist Militants" as those causing the misery. Although they try to divide Fatah elements and Hamas, it seems that even MSM is defining Hamas as unreasonable enemies. This link must be extended to the idealogy of supremacy
that springs from the mouths of the like of OBL and then reflected to the theology exposed in the Kuran and Hadith that is the food of this disease.
I have no doubt Russians and Americans are waking up every day and the intent on mudering the unbelievers by these Islamists will create an incredible backlash. The so called "moderate Muslims" who smugly contend that they are not in the same boat as the Islamists and need not do anything to usher out their violent co-religionists will unfortunately get caught in the wave. The gray areas in this struggle is slowly disappearing and as OBL wants it, it is going to be Muslims against non-Muslims and this is happening everywhere in the world, including Russia. I also see China as not being immune from the conflict. In the Crusades, they were formidable allies against the Mohammedans.
at May 18, 2007 9:35 PM
Read the Koran-
Spread the Dread.
The playbook for imperialistic expansion and global domination, disguised as prayer book.
Islam's greatest war deception: itself as a religion.
Posted by: profitsbeard
at May 18, 2007 10:40 PM
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