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May 18, 2007

FBI's Mueller: Bin Laden Wants to Strike U.S. Cities With Nuclear Weapons

Not that this is news.

By Ronald Kessler for Newsmax, with thanks to GS:

Osama bin Laden and his terrorist group desperately want to obtain nuclear devices and explode them in American cities, especially New York and Washington, D.C., FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III tells NewsMax.

In an exclusive interview, Mueller also acknowledged that bin Laden is still active, though isolated. The director revealed that the Bureau believes the terrorist leader continues to communicate with al-Qaida cells, some of which remain in the U.S.

Mueller declined to say how often bin Laden communicates or to elaborate on the substance of his communications.

Other intelligence sources tell NewsMax that U.S. security efforts have forced bin Laden to return to "horse-and-buggy days" — avoiding electronic communications in favor of using trusted couriers.

But Mueller says though hemmed in, al-Qaida's paramount goal is clear: to detonate a nuclear device that would kill hundreds of thousands of Americans.

In contrast to homegrown terrorists, al-Qaida is far more likely to be able to pull off such an attack.

Mueller admits the nuclear threat is so real he sometimes wakes up in the middle of the night worrying about that possibility.

"I think it would be very difficult to wipe out the United States, but you'd have hundreds of thousands of casualties from a nuclear device, depending on the size of that nuclear device," Mueller tells NewsMax.

Read it all.

Posted by Robert at May 18, 2007 11:43 AM
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Hey ! MR Harry Reid, how would you respond to such an incident!....

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 12:11 PM

With Dr. Khan of Pakistan having rebuilt the suitcase nukes bin Laden purchased out of the Soviet Union which the FBI did not confiscate in America in the days after 9 11, bin Laden is quite capable in his American Hiroshima.

He is waiting though for either more bombs or in his mystic revelations "a sign" or Iran has so hemmed his Islamofascists with their Islamocommunists or certain powers will hand him over if he acts or all of the above, bin Laden is playing this chessboard as expertly as he always has.

This is news that Director Mueller actually is making this public and might be the "Jericho warning" by the government confirming that once America is removed from Iraq according to bin Laden's objectives that this is the "sign" for him to attack America to ruin the economy.

Amazing thing the people cheering Iraq withdrawal might be in bin Laden's "sign" and the very reason America looses on of several cities and has numbers of Chernobyl hot zones killing people in cancer for the next 100 years.

Posted by: Lame Cherry [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 12:19 PM

I liked the FrontPageMagazine article on the structure of the Global Jihadist ideology. What was important for me to again learn that most of the majority of common people can really only deal with thier internal software and being the best people they can be given the random nature of how a person is born into the world

Global Jihadists have to start pulling triggers at the sinners and slackers to get thier view of the world as paradise into being. A big Negative!


Want to fight back?
Shouting at the comman man, denouncing the whole of these people is kinda useless unless you want to jack up your testosterone and cortisol levels and alienate them.

But, How about someone paying to get this little piece translated to Arabic, or Paki?
Find a way to get it into the common person, so that they can use thier free choice to counter the Authoritarian in their culture?
Maybe a person won't the world the same way after reading it. Maybe they will have the courage to turn Bin Laden in for the 20 million reward! Maybe they will frustrate Hamas?

Islamic Haram and Halal
by Ayesha Ahmed

http://www.islam-watch.org/AyeshaAhmed/islamic_haram_and_halal.htm

It is simple in terms and goes right to the heart of Islam's paradigm of good and evil behavior.

Remember, Islam in some countries is very oppressive, we have to counter an oppressive Ideology. Our system of liberty is predicated on making choices for behavior that will bring us good. Good for "me" and ultimately good for my family and society.
Islamic Sharia falls short.

For what its worth.

Posted by: One4FreeChoice [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 12:25 PM

This in not a new revelation, Al-Qaeda has been saying this, even before 9/11...only no one was listening then....ok, maybe a few were listening...

and where is Al-Qaedas leadership now..in Pakistan probably...exactly the place where nuclear components exist and were security for nuclear components is loose, and where some nuclear devices have disappeared from time to time....

lets see 1+ 1 =-----.

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 12:40 PM

Any nuclear attack on the US by the Islamaniacs must be met by one on their "holy" cities. Mutual assured destruction-ugly, but effective.

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 12:41 PM

I have a simple solution and it goes like this:

If so much as a firecracker goes off in the United States in the name of allah, then Mecca is nuked into black sand. Then, we destroy EVERY sacred islamic holy site (oxymoron?) that exists.

With the Soviets, they never launched nukes because the retaliation would have been too severe. The same position should be taken with the barbaric death cult known as islam. One nuke in the US and all of islam is wiped off the map. Fram Paki to Saudi...nothing left but sand.

Appeasement will never work with this group of raping, stoning, suicide-bombing animals.

And to you dougie cooper: you are a traitor and a coward. I invite you to research what happened to Benedict Arnold.

DEATH TO ISLAM!

DEATH TO IRAN!

Posted by: KillHankKill [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 12:43 PM

All the more reason to have Tancredo in office as Commander-in-Chief. At least we KNOW he will target Mecca and Medina for retaliation.

Barack Hussein obama would er.. see how the First Responders do.. Hitlery would er.. retaliate.. that is until she decided against it..

Bush would never hit targets in SOWdi Barbarity.

All of these mega-rich people have way too much to lose by retaliating.

They can still take their money and leave after we are attacked. If we retaliate things will get a whole lot worse for everyone so count on the rich like Bush or Hitlery to do exactly nothing.

The rats will leave the ship and leave the rest of us to fend for ourselves.

Let's hope that there will be people who know how to deploy retaliatory nukes anyhow.

The enemy MUST be re-paid one hundred-fold should they ever succeed in committing such a crime.

Next election: WHO guarantes meaningful retaliation best?

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 12:44 PM

If they nuked an American city it would be an immense 'tragedy' - just like 9/11. An orgy of mourning and sorrow and non stop coverage and breast beating for our sins and brow-furrowing.

Television and media and advertising and shitty schools and endless pc manipulation and multiculti pablum have ruined us.

Posted by: poetcomic1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 1:05 PM

With Dr. Khan of Pakistan having rebuilt the suitcase nukes bin Laden purchased out of the Soviet Union which the FBI did not confiscate in America in the days after 9 11, bin Laden is quite capable in his American Hiroshima.
Posted by Lame Cherry

As I was reading this post by Robert, before clicking to read the comments, I was thinking, "Oh, I hope Lame Cherry has posted something because he always seems to have such insight and inside information. I do think there has been some recent intel to this effect because earlier this week CNN had a segment on what to do if there is a nuclear disaster and on the same day my mother phoned to tell me the National Guard in Ohio is being trained on how to handle nuclear disasters, and now this statement from Dir. Mueller all within a few days. My question is....how can the nuclear suitcases be rebuilt because after a few years the uranium becomes too weak to be effective? And...from what I've read, Al Qaeda will attack after we have attacked Iran because then they will have the justification to kill 10 million people.

Posted by: Bonniea [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 1:06 PM

"al-Qaida's paramount goal is clear: to detonate a nuclear device that would kill hundreds of thousands of Americans."

Our goal should be very clear too. To stop them!

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 1:06 PM

Allahfanculo:

You are correct. You will be left to defend yourself and your family. I advise a well stocked armory of guns, ammo and survival supplies. Plus a couple well trained German Shepherds.

Bush's legacy of corruption almost guarantee’s that the entire Bush clan will be ushered off to Saudi Arabia to live among the elite when the sh*t hits the fan. Our government is so corrupt it makes my skin crawl.

Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

God Bless America!


Posted by: KillHankKill [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 1:10 PM

Just remember Mr. Mueller, never believe what a muslim tells you as his modus operandi is half truths, half lies. While it may be that he wants to set off nukes, we, the west, best be watching the back door where the attack will come from. Are you listening London, Paris?

And just remember slaves of Allah, not only would your holy cities be destroyed, every mosque in the west will be razed to the ground if such an attack occurs ANYWHERE in the west. That is a promise you can put into your non-interst bearing muslim bank.

Posted by: William The Crusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 1:18 PM

Allahfanculo -- I'm voting for the guy with the biggest balls -- sorry Hillary.

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 1:20 PM

This article beautifully illustrates the paramount (and urgent) reason why Islam ABSOLUTELY MUST BE OUTLAWED in all western democracies. IMMEDIATELY.

I have never felt so strongly about anything in my life!

Islam not only teaches first degree murder--it fails to draw the line at genocide. Indeed, Islam actually encourages genocide and has managed to perpetrate over 300 MILLION murders in its 13 centuries-long history of horror and carnage. 60 million Christians were murdered in Islamia during the twentieth century (by Muslims). Isn't that enough????? Well, it's sure as h%ll enough for me!

None of us can know for certaion when we will be targeted by Islam for murder. Or how many of us. But all of us are on Islam's hit list. Be sure of it.

It is lunacy to give Islam any MORE chances to massacre Americans. It will make use of all of them. al-Qaeda's killer-zombies and bin Looney Tunes have no intention of abandoning their dreams of creating a carnival of carnage in America

OUTLAW ISLAM IN THE USA NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


*Is there anyone listening? Anyone at all????

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 1:21 PM

From the rest of the article:

"An American MI5 Is the Wrong Approach," MI5 is envious of the FBI because, when an arrest must be made, it has to convince a police force that there is enough evidence to make the arrest.

"A critical difference I think people don't focus on between ourselves and the U.K. is the fact that the criminal justice system here disseminates intelligence by reason of its plea bargaining capability," Mueller says.

"If you look at what's happened in the U.K. over the last three or four years, it has arrested probably a hundred individuals in various terrorist operations, and of those hundred, maybe one or two have cooperated.

"And in almost every case that we've had in the United States, one or more have cooperated and given us the full picture of the cell. And that's intelligence."

...MI5...FBI...who will be the first to underestimate, to follow the decoy, to fall for the banana in the tailpipe. And at what ultimate cost.

MI5 might be envious simply because the U.S. is not yet swarming with these vermin.

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 1:29 PM

That won't stop immigration will it?

Call your Senator, no amnesty and no legal immigration until Putin says all Russian nukes accounted for, Pakistan denukes and says and we verify all nukes accounted for, and Iran and North Korea give up their pogroms, I mean programs.

Posted by: Old Atlantic [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 1:39 PM

Agreed! Islam is should be deemed a pariah in the US and all Western-Democracies immediately. However, it will never happen, even if or when, G-d forbid, America is nuked. There will always be those, and not only Muslims, whom will blame America for all ills which befall it.
They are amongst us, at this moment in time, scheming and spinning overt conspiracy lies; America and Israel were the plotters and perpetrators of 9/11.
Again, we are astutely aware of the Islamists are our enemy; nevertheless, we should not ignore “seditious” Americans and Euros whom are as devious and deviant than Islamo-fascism: In truth, even more so.


Posted by: Misanthrope [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 1:41 PM

Sunni shia hostilities in New Baghdad USA? I’m so glad we opened the doors and let them in along with their 1000 year old baggage, how bout you?
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070517/UPDATE/705170458/1003/METRO
I find it very suspicious that they have taken up residence along the great lakes, a natural set of routes with which to launch future attacks throughout North America or move suitcase nukes, among other things around. Right in the heart of North America, can you think of a better place to create a base?

Posted by: tgusa [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 1:55 PM

"MI5 might be envious simply because the U.S. is not yet swarming with these vermin."

-XRDC


You are so right on this one. We already have NO ability to protect ourselves as it is, and they want to ADD to our misery????

We can't look at those we need to to-date...is Congress going to increase intelligence and law enforcement spending???

Not if they want a true welfare state.

Posted by: Miss_Anthrope [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 1:57 PM

Our leaders will not act to prevent these attacks on our soil. They will always stick their heads in the sand..ignoring threats or merely giving lip service about it until the day it happens. After an attack the response will not, no matter how violent, make up for the damage done by the enemy's first blow. In addition to the physical damage and lives lost will be the collapse of our economy. It will always be the same story.

Posted by: pismopal [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 2:02 PM

Unfortunately it is inevitable. The only questions are when and who.

When it does happen, hopefully our citizens will remember for more than a couple of years, and our government will be willing to take the actions necessary to eliminate any future threat.

I have a feeling WWII style internment will look tame. Do a little reading on what it took to throw the Moors out of Spain and Sicily.

Posted by: GrimReaperxxx [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 2:11 PM

Every day I wake up and wonder to myself,is this the day the vermin finaly nuke us? The fact that it hasnt happened yet raises more questions than answers to me.Will it finaly open up the floodgates of revenge?I sure hope so.

Posted by: tscipio [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 2:13 PM

It would seem that only a few voices can be heard among the glut of Democratic voices announcing that the War on Terror does not exist or that the "war is lost" (i.e. John Edwards, Barack Obama, Harry Reid)...

I tell you my friends, if/when the next terrorist attack occurs, those very same people will be brazenly asking why the Bush administration did little to protect, or even worse wondering what the UNITED STATES did to deserve this fate...

In other words, this will be our fault (note: sarcasm)

http://toddanthony.squarespace.com

Posted by: Todd Anthony [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 2:42 PM

Naturally, avowed enemies of the U.S. will present those aspects of American foreign policy which are contrary to their aims,as their main defense (should some even care to provide one) for the destruction, and contamination, of a major population center. Vigilance in our individual communities is the most viable and realistic means of resistance and survival.

Miss_Anthrope,
"Like the way you think,gonna be keepin' my eye on you." (channeling the late Sam Kinison)

Posted by: We need G.C. Scott [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 3:16 PM

Anyone want to venture a guess as to how long after a Nuclear attack on a Western city it will take till the West falls back asleep?

Why ,oh why are we waiting for it to happen?

Iran is very close and Pakistan already has them.
We need to utterly destroy their capacity to make war at all,not sell them more planes(Pakistan) or allow terrorist states like Iran to make even the slightest threat.

The day is fast approaching where they will be telling US how it is going to be from now on.

Posted by: MoBlows [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 3:31 PM

I wonder what they'll get for parking in the Middle East after the cement cools in 100 years?

Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 3:32 PM

...and some Muslims think they are homeless now...

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 3:33 PM

Misanthrope:

I disagree on the grounds that Islam teaches first degree murder and places no limits on this practice. (In addition to is putting this teaching of first degree murder of the "unbelievers" into practice, which we in the western democracies perceive as "terrorism").

First degree murder is a capital crime under nearly all legal statutes in the civilized world. That is a very powerful legal weapon that remains to wielded against Islam. Espcially as religious rights in the United States are NOT absolute--many native American religious rites, notably those involving the use of peyote, ARE outlawed and have been for generations. Islam and its jihads can certainly join the list.

It is time to wield that legal weapon against Islam and have it outlawed NOW before it massacres again.

This is doable.

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 4:08 PM

We have seen many occasions where Muslims have had ample opportunity to condemn the actions of their brethren here and abroad, on a scale comparable to the riots resulting from the ‘cartoon publication’. We’ve never seen RAGE against the ‘hijackers’ of the religion of peace. What we do see however is continual pleas for sympathy and simpering utterances of regret that these acts of Islamic terrorism are putting the huddled masses of fear ridden Muslims in danger of a backlash.
Well, one can come to one’s own conclusions as to why we don’t see much Muslim outrage when their brethren put them in danger of backlash and if that conclusion results in the epiphany as to why these people are strangely quiet, except when they themselves or their ‘religion’ is under attack (most of it verbal) then perhaps it will be of no great interest or concern to the majority of the population to find that the Islamic community end up in places like this, in the event of a nuclear attack on the US mainland
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=JFT&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=american+concentration+camps&spell=1

Prudence would suggest making one’s presence scarce before it comes to that.


Posted by: Jihadtobejoking [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 4:16 PM

Georgie boy is hell-bent on distroying America with his open borders, newly minted amnesty for all illegal aliens -- INCLUDING -- al queda operatives already in the country.

Moreover, Georgie boy has already signed one agreement last week, that will bind America to the jurisdiction of the EU in ALL trade and monetary matters; he is pushing yet AGAIN, for LOST that will end ANY chance of boarding ships illegally within American costal waters; Georges good buddy Blair, who destroyed England with a pen, is now slated to head the Word Bank -- a grand coincidence no doubt -- just dumb luck; and finally, Bush has secret legislation already passed that WILL HAVE THE FORCE OF LAW in the event of a decapitation stike i.e. NUCLEAR ATTACK AGAINST A US CITY.

But the rude, curt, foul-mouthed Georgie boy, isn't alone in his hatred for his country -- there are plenty, no a majority in Congress, who hate this country and its people, and would love nothing better for its demise.

Not only does George believe that such a stike is possible, I believe George, and all his traitorous ilk, will allow it to happen!

A nuclear attack or other disaster of such magnitude is all they need to convince whoever is left, that freedom must be extinguished for the "safty" of the masses and their children.

The silly little cowards will quiver and quake being all to eager to foolishly agree to such an evil bargin wrongly believing they will have
peace and safety.

Don't worry! George and everyone in Congress as well as the top brass in the Pentegon will be perfectly safe, in just such an nuclear event as depicted by Muller!

YOUR REAR-ENDS however, will be radioactive toast -- what's left of it!

The promised nuclear attack that seems to be keeping Muller awake at night is just the thing that will destroy the country that the Bush, Kennedy, and Clinton families among others, have hated with such venom, for so long.

Those that survive will either live under the well deserved iron-fists of tyranny either from the secular world-globalist-elites or the religious islamic-globalist-mullas!

Either way, the American people have lost forever, the freedom which their parents fought courageously for, and died to preserve.

Inhale the last breaths of freedom kids, because you will not have the chance much longer.

Thanks to the people YOUR PARENTS have voted into power!

Posted by: witness [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 4:18 PM

"Any nuclear attack on the US by the Islamaniacs must be met by one on their "holy" cities. Mutual assured destruction-ugly, but effective."

Of course it would be extremely controversial, but leaders of the Arab nations need to feel real heat. If they understood and believed that there was a real possibility of U.S. retaliation to this degree, you think they wouldn't find Bin Laden and his ilk? They don't have to operate through the the same political correct machinations of the west.

Posted by: macdaddy [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 4:50 PM

poetcomic1:

You're exactly right- another attack would be transformed into a tragic breast beating "media event." You forgot one thing though- there would be a huge amount of self blame from the media- 'this wouldn't have happened if we weren't in Iraq,' 'this wouldn't have happened if we didn't support Israel,' and so on. Not once would the media mention that this happened because of Islam, not because of anything the U.S. did or did not do.

Posted by: s [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 4:58 PM

Interesting way to possibly thwart such an attack
from:
Annihilation from Within: The Ultimate Threat to Nations (Hardcover)
by Fred Charles Ikle

He suggests the use of a
gamma-ray color camera -- could detect nuclear material entering the country (via a tracking satellite?).

A reviewer at Amazon.com suggests, unfortunately:

"Iklé reveals that after a decade of efforts by Los Alamos, Livermore and the Pentagon's Science Board, mid-level officials have blocked the massive research scientists agree is needed to build nuclear weapons detectors. One idea from Lowell Wood is a gamma-ray color camera, but the needed R&D has not been funded due to complacency. Iklé reveals the FBI and Homeland Security have already done "thousands" of "false alarm" searches - yet Congress has not funded the new technology to detect stolen nuclear materials."

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0231139527/ref=wl_it_dp/002-5987400-7197631?ie=UTF8&coliid=IMELY21T4GM46&colid=2XTOS6XHQW773

Posted by: memills [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 6:34 PM

"First degree murder is a capital crime under nearly all legal statutes in the civilized world. That is a very powerful legal weapon that remains to wielded against Islam."

Pythagoras,

Been there, done that. Bill Clinton wielded the very powerful legal weapon against the first WTC bombers and it did nothing to prevent future attacks. When Islamists commit first degree murder they usually kill themselves in the process, leaving no one upon whom to wield that weapon.

Are you suggesting we criminalize Islam itself?

And NO I'm not an apologist for Islam, I would just like to understand how you think the legal weapon would produce results when the murderers are dead.

The only legal weapon we have before innocents are murdered is the conspiracy angle and it's the hardest crime to prove. You can't control access to weapons since too many of them use weapons that are easily available - box cutters and knives are not controlled. You can't stop them from driving a car. Explosives have commercial applications such as demolition. You'll rarely have someone plant a truck bomb and leave. He's more likely to drive it himself to ensure maximum casualties.

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 6:58 PM

"And just remember slaves of Allah, not only would your holy cities be destroyed, every mosque in the west will be razed to the ground if such an attack occurs ANYWHERE in the west. That is a promise you can put into your non-interst bearing muslim bank."

Williamthecrusader,

Unfortunately no one in power will make this promise and I don't trust any of them to follow through even if they did. It's more likely they'll call for "calm and not to not act hastily" etc.

Rather than even take the act of blowing up the Grand Mosque (a minimal reaction, in my view) it's more likely we'll hear something along the lines of "We mustn't penalize a billion peaceful Muslims for the actions of a few".

THAT IS WHAT I EXPECT TO HEAR FROM ALL LEADERS.

Michael Savage thinks that when push comes to shove we will hand the Islamists their heads and he points to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

I think he's wrong. The world was a larger place back then and we had leaders who were willing to act ruthlessly in order to save America. Nothing remotely similar to the Japanese internment could ever happen now.

That was then. This is now.

Today we turn the other cheek. We ask why others hate us and how we can make things right again. We have lost our (cultural) will to live. The people who are willing to fight will never win elections. Exhibit A is Tom Tancredo. The only way we will survive is with a total breakdown of law and order and with Americans overthrowing the current government and taking the law into their own hands and eliminating Islam. The problem is we just don't have the stomach for it.

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 7:12 PM

Hey ! MR Harry Reid, how would you respond to such an incident!....

Simple.

"We need to talk to our allies and come up with sanctions against the Iranian (just an example - this statement assumes Iran was the source) government. We can't punish the Iranian people for the actions of their government. We will act to prevent the spread of war. We will go to the UN Security Council and get a resolution against the Iranian government and we will get sanctions to prevent their program from growing but we will be sure these sanctions are not unduly harsh since we don't want to punish the innocent people of Iran."

Assuming he survives such an attack, this is the type of statement I would expect from the Reid/Pelosi/Clinton crowd.

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 7:17 PM

Relax, Mr. Mueller. We are fighting them over there -- $880 billion and counting -- so we won't have to fight them over here. As long as we are still fighting them over there, there's no chance that we'll ever have to fight them...over here.

It's just logic. If P, then Q. Tarski, Quine, the whole shebang. Follows as the night the day.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 7:18 PM

Old news, them trying to bring the fight here (as originally planned before, but failed with the unexpected counter-offensive they didn't count on).
With increasing desperation, it's an inevitability, especially when they feel they have nothing left to lose...if there's a way, they'll find it...and they will have 5th column help, thanks to the PC movement running cover for them.

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 7:41 PM

Instead of striking at all of the jihadist vipers nests around the world that threatened us (Iran, Paki nukes, Libya, Iraq, Syria, the Bekkah Valley in Lebanon etc.), on 9/12, HARD, while the iron was hot, this Administration has squandered an historical opportunity that may not be repeatable.

Because the "usual suspects" of self-loathing conspiratorial lunatics have turned our necessary acts of self-defense into one more reason for a pananoid promotion of the suicide of the West. ("Truthers", et al.)

Nevertheless, even if we are blamed for everything on Earth, and will be said to deserve any "retribution" for acting in our own SURVIVAL interests, Iran's nuclear ambitions need to be extinguished now.

And Pakistan's nukes have to be on the list of "things to confiscate" INSTANTLY if Musharref is assassinated.

Bush and Co. are so busy undoing the nation's borders and inviting the illegal alien subversion of the nation that they appear unable to act in our defense anywhere, coherently (VIZ- Iraq and Afghanistan were allowed to become Muslim theocracies -"for democracy"- while our military has been forbidden from engaging and destroying the enemy seriously and effectively in either theater of operation).

Let's hope the general instincts in America aren't as atrophied as those of our blithering, blind and crooked political class when a deadly attack hits us again. And that we demand the right response.

The unconditional surrender of the terror supporters, from Mecca to Islamabad.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 7:45 PM

True, 'beard:

His dad squandered another HUGE one in '91, too... as did the 'nut farmer in '79 by letting that maniac come to power in iran.

We can start to rectify things by purging PC from not only the lexicon, but the entire scene, period.
(Ms. Gabrielle is right about that-it's killing us, and more are being killed domestically behind the PC wall than troops in the field by 3 to 1 margin).
This "sensitivity" BS has got to go...NOW,
and let our troops finish the job the way they were designed to (it's NOT by being policemen)...
1) kill bad guys
2) thrash their wares
end of story.

(I think we're both on the same page, as both parties in DC have their heads up their anal cavity, and it makes me want to explode).

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 7:58 PM

When my buddy was sent from Canada to Buffalo for emergency spine surgery, he set off the radiation detector at the border because of the dye injected into his system a WEEK prior. If they try bringing it in near one of these babies, they will get caught I suspect.

Posted by: Socialpath [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 8:14 PM

It's a shame Alexander never lived long enough for his planned Conquest of Arabia. If he had this Curse on mankind called Islam may never have had a chance to arise under the rule of more civilized Peoples.

Posted by: MoBlows [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 11:00 PM

FBI's Mueller: Bin Laden Wants to Strike U.S. Cities With Nuclear Weapons

Not that this is news.

Not to us.

But it seems to be news to Congress and Dhimya who is glad he is working with a Congress which will *enable* him to keep the borders flung wide open.

What does a rube repube like Dhimya care if New York is blown uo anyway?

They don't vote repube-liKKKan anyway..

Yeah I know most of NYC is inhabited by dumbass LiEberals but that shouldn't carry the death penalty by negligence either..

And besides, I live here too :-)

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 11:43 PM

I guess if I call Dhimya a greedy dumbf*uck that won't make him feel like New York is woth protecting, will it?

The Feds ARE mandated by the Constitution to safeguard the UNION.

Regardless of how hostile we are or whom we happen to vote for.

What I cannot understand is the Dhimmicrats ignoring the fact that of all those *apprehended* crossing the border 150,000 were so-called OTMs.. other than Mexicans.

These are just the ones they caught!

Hey, Dhimmicratz!! The voters most likely to get nuked ARE YOURS!!!

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 18, 2007 11:50 PM

Even worse, Alla`...

Of those OTMs, a number (4 on one occasion) turned out to be NORTH KOREANs...and they weren't seeking asylum. I doubt anyone need do the math from here...
(gee...guess why it's not front page news?).

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 19, 2007 12:12 AM

It's a shame Alexander never lived long enough for his planned Conquest of Arabia. If he had this Curse on mankind called Islam may never have had a chance to arise under the rule of more civilized Peoples.

Posted by: MoBlows"

I disagree. islam was able to flourish just because of, as you put it, civilized peoples. These peoples never had the stomach to do the needful for wiping this movement from the face of the earth. Yes, there were occasions when our people (both in Europe and in South Asia) did it, but they never wiped out all of it (think w & c). Our human values are responsible for the mess that we are in today. I am not blaming your ancestors or mine, they were just that, brave, but human.

Posted by: arjun.sevak [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 19, 2007 12:19 AM

jcm972-

9/11 was a potentially world-changing moment of endless possibilities for crushing the Jihad fast and hard. In understandable righteous indignation, -and with world sympathy mainly on our side.

(No other nations would have said much if we had struck at multiple jihadist centers, from Iran to Pakistan, The Taliban to Hamas, Al-Qaeda to Hezbollah, claiming that we had intelligence that "they were all involved". By the time anyone found any evidence contradicting this, it would have been too late to bring the jihad back to life. It would have been considered an "over-reaction", on our part, but one that no sane person on Earth would really have regretted too much. The "crazy cowboys" would have solved a global problem, -and could then have been mocked by the "superior and more civilized" Europeans, in the decades to come, for being such "hyper-power bullies"... as they all breathed a secret sigh of relief ...because we did their dirty work for them, once again.)

Bush, Sr. was merely battling a petty dictator, so there was little military excuse for him to reach beyond Iraq and strike at other sources of Islamic terror.

Carter still had the Soviets to worry about, as he licked spittle and allowed our sovereign territory in the Tehran embassy be invaded, with no military response.

Plus, people in America were not as stunned and enraged by that simple embassy takeover- in a distant land- as they were by the mass-murder of 3,000 of our brothers and sisters, on our own soil, on 9/11.

Bush, Jr.'s failure of understanding (about the Jihadists), his lack of killer instinct (about the amount of force needed to destroy Terroristic Mohammadism), and his derelection of duty on this point (not smashing it while the national fury was at a white hot pitch) was -and is- tragic for our country and for the world.

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arjun.sevak-

Moderation in response to murderous brutality is suicide.

Until more people know of the true nature of Islamic dogmas (misogynistic, terroristic, anti-liberty) we are fighting a phantom called "extremists" ...when Islam, itself, is the extremism.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 19, 2007 1:50 AM

I sure hope that theres an SSBN captain out there who will not hesitate to rid us of this scourge.

Posted by: chockfullonuts [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 19, 2007 3:30 AM

It would be nice, but he doesn't have authority, only National Comand Authority does.
But rest assured, if any of them gets the oder, those missiles WILL FLY...bank on it.

Actually, we could've done that right after 9/11... even china wouldn't have said anything, and had it been the russians (even actor james woods said) would have turned 3 of their own regions into parking lots in 20 minutes, leaving radioactive goo for the next 137,000 years, while the rest of the islamist world would say: "We get the message."

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice... Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"
Barry Goldwater was right.

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 19, 2007 4:50 AM

We knew of this previously. B/L/ got permission from some high mucky mucks who assured him it was A#1OK with Allah if he nuked American cities. Since Allah does not speak, I wonder how they know what pleases him...Oh yes, the Quran and all those calls to kill people, I forgot, those are in real time, but only those who can rythmically chant verses in Arabic can hear Allah...and what does he say? "Feed me I'm hungry". Hungry for what, why bread of course..."be he alive or be he dead, I will grind his bones to make my bread." He also says 'fee, fi, fo, fum, a lot, sort of like Allahu Akbar. So a little known fact, Allah is the baker of men. That should not surprise anyone since he always is looking for someone to put in the fire. Bin Laden got permission to nuke Americans because Allah is hungry, insatiable, the beast must be fed...I say we resist being nuked by discontinuing the enemy, let Allah go hungry, shrivel up, die, and blow away...it's the only decent thing to do...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 20, 2007 12:07 AM

Islamic terrorists everywhere, I’m sure, would wish to thank the CIA and the US military commanders in charge at the time for the tremendous fuck-up job they did in letting bin Laden escape the Tora Bora into safe hiding. This is surely regarded as proof of Allah’s divine will to continue the jihad. Naturally, the fuck-ups were given medals by the chief fuck-up.

Posted by: FM [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 20, 2007 12:24 PM

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