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"More than a quarter of those subject to the controversial orders ... are now missing."
"Three UK terrorism suspects flee 'control orders'," by Peter Graff for Reuters:
LONDON (Reuters) - Three suspects held under controversial British anti-terrorism "control orders" have absconded this week, police said on Wednesday, an embarrassing blow for a key plank of Tony Blair's security strategy.
The announcement, following the disappearances of at least two other suspects last year, means that more than a quarter of those subject to the controversial orders -- imposed on suspects who are not charged with a crime -- are now missing.
The British prime minister introduced the orders, under which suspects are electronically tagged and subjected to a range of restrictions, after courts threw out Blair's measures to jail suspects indefinitely without charge.
"This is yet another hammer blow for the increasingly discredited system of control orders," said Nick Clegg, home affairs spokesman for the opposition Liberal Democrats.
The center-right Conservatives, who support the orders, said the government was nonetheless failing to keep the public safe.
London's Metropolitan Police took the extraordinary step of naming the three abscondees and releasing pictures of them. Suspects under control orders are usually entitled to anonymity because they have not been convicted of a crime.
The three were named as Lamine Adam, 26, Ibrahim Adam, 20, and Cerie Bullivant, 24. The Adams were both born in Algeria and were described as of North African origin. Bullivant was born in Britain and listed as white.
Police said the three may be travelling together. Members of the public were told not to approach them.
Under the orders terrorism suspects can no longer be jailed without charge but can be subjected to a range of measures up to virtual house arrest.
Suspects are frequently confined to their homes for much of the day, required to wear electronic tags, obliged to check in with police, forbidden to use computers or telephones and banned from meeting people without permission.
The orders must be imposed by a special court, but the suspects are not permitted to see evidence against them and the authorities do not have to prove they are guilty of a crime.
Two other suspects on control orders who disappeared last year have not been found. According to the Home Office, 17 people are being monitored under the program, including the three who absconded this week but not two who fled last year.
Posted by Marisol at May 24, 2007 7:22 AM
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They bolted...as if they wouldn't.
Well, live & learn...until they strike next.
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at May 24, 2007 7:45 AM
and people believe the Muslims held in Gitmo are but poor farmers who were in the wrong place at the wrong time....BALONEY!!...
....EVIDENTLY, the suspicions on the terror suspects were correct....and their neighbors claimed they were "good boys, never meaning no harm"....
...sad to say , some may die because we knowingly released the Muslim terror suspects when we had reason to hold them....
...sometimes the PC crowd and the liberal leftists make you want to gag....
Posted by: exsgtbrown at May 24, 2007 8:07 AM
Hope these darling lads have been rounded up by someone who can administer REAL justice and put them on the PERMANENT missing list, before they ultimately embark on their jihad games.
Posted by: Freedom at May 24, 2007 9:20 AM
"Two other suspects on control orders who disappeared last year have not been found."
Have they checked pakistan?
Then again, they may be living in Dearborn having travelled through mexico and across our "secure southern border".
Posted by: walterc at May 24, 2007 10:02 AM
The UK is a sick joke.
Posted by: Silvester at May 24, 2007 10:05 AM
This is not a matter of criminal justice, but a wartime matter, to be dealt with by the intelligence and security services, free from the constraints of the criminal justice system in the Western world.
In "A Sentimental Journey Through France and Italy" the narrator concludes that "they order these things better in France." Well, the British might unsentimentally take a journey to France, to see how Jean-Louis Bruguiere does it, and how the legal regime of the French constrains -- or does not unduly constrain -- them. And then there is a visit to be paid a bit further on, to Israel, to see what that country, the original and permanent object of a Lesser Jihad that has been depicted in the press wrongly as merely a matter of "two tiny peoples" etc. (well, there's been a lot less of that in the last few years, ans the mask keeps being ripped off, and even those most subject to the incessant and grotesque anti-Israel journalists at the BBC, The Guardian, RFI, Le Monde, have begun to see the light (even if the same old same old keeps being presented by the dwindling group of apologists for the Arabs and for Islam (after all, you can only kidnap so many journalists who parrot your own line, so often, without discouraging the others -- and it nice to see Barbara Plett now reporting from Pakistan and Orla Guerin reporting from southern Africa -- for they were two of the worst, highranking officers in the BBC Anti-Israel pro-PLO Brigade).
Find out why it is that the panoply of rights that has been constructed in modern Western democracies, especially in what might be called those with Anglo-Saxon notions of liberty and law, never allowed for, never contemplate, an internal threat of such malevolence and magnitude as that which Islam poses, and which we have still not begun to deal with adequately, on any front.
Posted by: Hugh at May 24, 2007 10:39 AM
England needs the 'Star Chamber'operating again.
Posted by: Ruebacca at May 24, 2007 10:43 AM
Well, hell then why haven't they locked all these people up, if they don't have to prove they are quilty of anything? That is messed up! Still, black or white? This is messed up? Are they sure they existed?""
Posted by: MZ at May 24, 2007 10:58 AM
Or maybe there is no intell....?
Posted by: MZ at May 24, 2007 10:59 AM
lets hope there are some SAS units operating out there, such as the ones whom shot the brazilian operative, Jean Charles de Menezes. if this were such a tragic mistake then why was the head officer involved in that shooting given a promotion?
http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=1303&id=1351502006
http://www.rense.com/general67/whywas.htm
Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at May 24, 2007 11:05 AM
Their pictures should be posted on a wanted poster such as RED ALERT !- with the others!
Posted by: MZ at May 24, 2007 11:05 AM
It's interesting. Britain is the ultimate nanny state, and would seemingly like to regulate every aspect of their citizen's life. Yet, in the case of potential jihadists, well, they don't need to really be regulated at all, and are simply trusted not to abscond.
Does that mean that the politocos of Great Britain trust the actions of terrorists more than the trust their own citizens?
Posted by: s at May 24, 2007 11:07 AM
Sounds like in the states too? It is us who suffer! Patted down, all our good sht thrown out so we have to buy more. We are the only ones they set example because we are the easiest to convict!
Like Ramos the security border agent too!!!
at May 24, 2007 11:23 AM
In Atlanta Georgia, the police constantly arrest illegal aliens for no drivers license, no auto insurance, DUIs, no identification, and many other violations...all are instructed when to appear in court......and.....about 98% of those arrested now have failure to appear warrents out....
....if you arrest them , either jail them or deport them....do not turn them loose...
at May 24, 2007 12:10 PM
I still don't understand...if we can tag our pets with electronic chips that are under their skin, why can't we tag these animals when they are arrested, call it a vaccination against aids or something, the idiots wouldn't know the difference, and monitor their movements with gps technology. Just don't let the truth out, we already have seen how abc and other main stream media treats our "secrets"...but that is another rant...
Posted by: GamblersChoice at May 24, 2007 12:27 PM
At the end of the day, we are in this position because of the courts. Politically correct fossilised judges who fail to realise that we entered a different world on 11th September 2001, and to them, we are stuck in a world which predates 9/11. It is an act of supreme folly to look upon Jihadis as merely common criminals, but that is obviously how judges view the world. It is not the Government that is failing to keep us safe, but the judiciary. But these senile old judges are safe in the knowledge that they will be dead before their actions really impact upon the rest of us.
Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at May 24, 2007 1:05 PM
"The Adams were both born in Algeria and were described as of North African origin."
Why were they,
1. Admitted to the UK
2. Given British Passports.
I know! We have a duty to shelter those fleeing oppression!
at May 24, 2007 1:21 PM
..if you arrest them , either jail them or deport them....do not turn them loose...
If you deport them, don't just drop them off at the border. Take them to the other side of their country. (For Mexico, that means THEIR southern border, not OUR southern border.)
Posted by: PMK at May 24, 2007 2:20 PM
The UK is pathetic; many Brits detest America, as much and, some, more than Islam. As a SOCIALIST-democracy (this is the goal of many, US, leftists for America) their society is eroding from top to bottom. Radical-Islam has been permitted burrow into Brit society, sadly, it is there to stay.
It’s no surprise these three psychos eluded the authorities... The judiciary has the mental wherewithal of Mr. Bean, without the humour.
As I have family there, and my better-half has just returned from a vacation in London – as they say, she was gob-smacked, but not surprised, at the dire state of the UK. Especially the ongoing and, no matter what one hears, placating of Islamists, radical or otherwise.
It is the loathing of America, which burns my onions… be it the Brits, the French or others of the Euro-collective.
Honestly, tolerating and sanctioning this psychotic-“religion” to broaden its base, over the decades, is a death-knell, in my opinion, for the UK.
They should deploy troops to uproot these Jihadists and their sponsors, not unlike that which their courageous troops are doing in Afghanistan and Iraq. Regrettably, the political-correctness of the loony left would never sanction it.
There is one positive thing about the Brits dilemma with their home-grown Jihadists; they can’t blame America or Bush for this one!
at May 24, 2007 2:39 PM
There is one positive thing about the Brits dilemma with their home-grown Jihadists; they can’t blame America or Bush for this one!
Posted by: Misanthrope
That's the dumbest thing I ever heard. Who cares if one can blame Bush or not? And there is lots to blame for.. "religion of Peace" ring a bell?
Rules of Engagement for our troops in Iraq..?
Posted by: Allahfanculo at May 24, 2007 3:29 PM
I wonder if there are Muslims working in the anti-terrorism bureau that issues these warrants. I wonder if they are helping these people escape by telling them how to defeat the electronic monitoring. I wonder if they're being anonymously sheltered in local mosques and then smuggled out of the country. Islam is the religion of peace; best not to ask these questions.
Posted by: aynrandgirl at May 24, 2007 5:11 PM
"Electronically tagged"?
With radio ankle bracelets?
If these are tampered with, a signal goes out.
Or, if the wearer goes beyond their assigned zone, another signal goes out.
What kind of "tag" are the Brits using?
Doesn't seem particularly effective.
And they don't seem particularly serious..
Not even after 7/7.
Posted by: profitsbeard at May 24, 2007 10:54 PM
" under which suspects are electronically tagged and subjected to a range of restrictions, after courts threw out Blair's measures to jail suspects indefinitely without charge."
Get a real life people...being tagged. As much as they like decapitating people and cutting off hands, feet etc...I am sure they cut their own off to disappear!
at May 25, 2007 12:26 AM
And I was led to believe that the "Keystone Cops" was made in the US. Now I know different.
It's so paifully incompetent it's almost laughable.
Posted by: ewha1 at May 25, 2007 3:56 AM
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