That's cut-n-dried taliban diplomacy at its finest.
Translated, they could more easily have just said:

"We're taking over!...resist and we kill you! Don't resist, we'll kill you in the end anyway!
Death to all who oppose us!"

lol

Posted by: jcom972 at May 24, 2007 7:44 AM

No doubt the Administration has carefully been planning for changes in Pakistan. No doubt it long ago understood it could not rely on Musharraf, both because of what he is, and because of what Pakistan is, to wage real war against the Taliban. No doubt it has tirelessly been working on ways to prevent Pakistan from acquiring better means for making warfare against India.

That is why the $27.5 billion Pakistan demanded has never been paid. That is why Bush has been careful to distance himself, in every way, from the Pakistani regime. That is why the Pakistanis tremble whenever an American official arrives to read them the riot act, and they always, always, immediately pull up their socks if the Pakistani troops have not been giving it their all. That is why the Taliban can find no sanctuary in Pakistan, nor Al Qaeda either -- because more than four years of resolute and colossal efforts by our "staunch ally" Pakistan have produced the same impressive results that have been achieved by the "Iraqi people" who, after their liberation by us, rose up as one man to not only express their complete and heartfelt gratitude to those boys from California, and Kansas, and Maine, but made sure that they did everything they could to rebuild their country themselves, and of course to fight for themselves, just the way, say, the Minutemen spontaneously organized, or those in the nascent state of Israel, getting off those ships that brought them from DP camps, were handed rifles and, without any training, went off in 1948 to confront the armies of five regular Arab armies. And Pakistan was just like Iraq.

Yes, that's Pakistan, a "staunch ally" we can count on, with its U.N. contingent doing so well in the Congo. And its immigrants in England showing their gratitude as they integrate and become "English" just like, exactly like, all the other immigrant groups that have ever arrived in Great Britain. A "staunch ally" in the mold of Saudi Arabia, now the world's expert in de-programming members of Al Qaeda, setting them loose never to be a problem -- for the Al-Saud -- again.

The "war on terror." The war "against Al Qaeda." So many "staunch allies" in this war. And perhaps none as reliable, not as put-all-your-eggs-in-one-basketish, as Pakistan.

But should anything untoward and entirely surprising -- there are so many surprises, a string of surprises, amazing surprises in Turkey and in Lebanon, in Syria and in Indonesia, in southern Thailand and in Darfur, in London and Amsterdam and New Jersey and Virginia and Texas and Portland, Oregon, and near Fort Dix, not to mention the uninterrupted series of fantastic, no-one-could-possibly-have-predicted-them surprises in Iraq -- then of course the Administration will now exactly what to do in Pakistan. Because anything bad or dangerous will have to be labelled correctly as "Al Qaeda" and if it is labelled "Al Qaeda" then we will have to go in, and do the fighting, and of course give those local Arabs and Muslims as many billions, and as much military equipment (rebuild this army, rebuild that one -- it will all work out), as they ask for, and for some reason they never stop asking.

"We must fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here."

"We can't cut and run."

"I thought they were all Muslims" [George Bush, on being told that there were "Sunnis and Shia" in Iraq]

"freedom for ordinary moms and dads in the Middle East"

"they'll just have to get over it" [Condoleeza Rice on the Sunni-Shia split]

Now you fill up the page with some of your favorites.

Posted by: Hugh at May 24, 2007 7:47 AM

I guess this was behind the charm offensive of Musharaff's recent tour of the West. He was paving the way for when he has to flee from Pakistan.

Posted by: Malta_1565 at May 24, 2007 8:01 AM

The Red Mosque could become a pile of Red Rubble...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at May 24, 2007 8:09 AM

PLEASE WATCH AND PASS ON TO OTHERS http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZIDCpcjf68Q

Posted by: storagemanager at May 24, 2007 8:11 AM

Tick, tock, tick, tock....

Posted by: Foehammer at May 24, 2007 9:21 AM

Assalamau Laikum all,

Many peoples here in Pak are not bothered and wonder what the fuss is about. The Lal Mulanas are asking for sharia and that is divine…we are muslims and we deserve sharia.

Some are worried that the imams at Lal Masjid think that nothing is sacred “except the sands of Arabia”. As we can clearly see, to the Lal Masjid warriors, even the mosque is not sacred because it stands on a non-Arabian soil.

The Aziz-Rasheed bhias are not without admirers, and even those who have reservations about the Lal Masjid duo’s modus operandi are hoping for a crackdown so as to make propaganda capital out of it.

Yet others who are for sharia only worry about the abnormal way of enforcing Sharia …not questioning it’s validity.

Clearly Mushi’s options are limited. He cannot open up with artillery or fire teargas shells, for this exactly is what the Lal Masjid, the Taliban and their supporters are hoping and praying for. The mosque can be stormed, with some casualties on both sides, but the ultimate triumph will be that of the Taliban supporters, to whom a crackdown on the sacred precincts of the mosque will give a resounding propaganda victory — proof that it is only the Taliban and their types who can protect mosques.

The stand-off at Lal Masjid may come to an end, but the crackdown will translate itself into more power and votes for the religious right. This will create fissures in the establishment and in the army, both of which are not without Taliban sympathisers, with frightful consequences.

It goes without saying that Aziz-Rasheed brothers’ acts — abductions, attacks on shops and threats of suicide bombings — have not exactly been commended by many religious groups and parties. The MMA’s component parties belong to Deobandi, Barelvi, Ahl-i-Hadees and Jafria schools, and none of them has approved the Lal Masjid actions, but the criticism lacks depth and sincerity, for one obvious reason: all opposition parties are thoroughly enjoying the government’s predicament.

If Mushi does not act, he will fail to enforce his writ even in the federal capital; if comes down hard on the two brother maulanas, the repercussions will shake the government, as if it is not already shaking.

What the political parties and civil society in general fail to realise is that if the Lal Masjid clerics succeed in appearing as victims of a governmental crackdown the problem will not go away, because it is the next government — and civil society — which will be faced with a similar, and perhaps greater and wide-ranging fitna.

The entire strategy of the two brothers is focussed on one point — dare the government into rash action. The more they provoke the authorities, the more diffident the government becomes the more disappointed the Lal Masjid brigade feels. What they want is a military crackdown. There is no doubt they will lose the first round, and the authorities will evict the brainwashed lot from the mosque, but in the long run it is they and not the government or civil society that will be victorious….and that can only mean one thing…sharia.

Sharia must be good for Pak in the long… it is Allah’s way….and a precursor to Mild sharia in the West.

Posted by: Naseem at May 24, 2007 9:31 AM

Nasseem, your English is extraordinarily good today.

But your never-ending calls for "mild" sharia all over the world are getting mighty stale.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at May 24, 2007 9:36 AM

You're right, you do deserve Sharia, Naseem. Just keep it to yourself and behind the borders of your own backward countries.

Posted by: Foehammer at May 24, 2007 9:39 AM

Assalamau Laikum ImaDhimmi

You sau "your never-ending calls for "mild" sharia all over the world are getting mighty stale".

My apologies for this....these things take time...and have to be re-iterated over & over...a bit like exam revising....soon it will be 2nd nature ...don't worry about it...instead spread the message.

Posted by: Naseem at May 24, 2007 9:41 AM

Bring it.

Posted by: Foehammer at May 24, 2007 9:45 AM

Nasseem
Mild Sharia ?
Sign me up baby !
Who do I have to kill ?
Who do I terrorise ?
Who do I subjugate ?
I'm ready.....
I've got the backpacks,
You got the bombs ?
We'll teach these unbelievers a lesson Allah (FH)willing.
Of cause we will do all these things MILDLY.
What do you say sweetheart ?

Posted by: Freedom at May 24, 2007 9:49 AM

Bomb the mosque and expand the fight. There is going to be a world war between islam and non-islam, it can't be avoided. The islamist intend to take over the world and the rest of us object.

So the sooner we get it going the quicker it will be over. Preferably before any muslims get control of nukes. Which means a fast track into pakistan before the taliban find them.

And Naseem, sharia in any form is not acceptable.

Posted by: walterc at May 24, 2007 9:54 AM

Nassem
with passing of everyday i am convinced that only way to handle things are the way sikhs have done it in punjab. with the blessings of wahe guru atleast million were let go. now we do not have any muslim problem in punjab.

Posted by: swimmer at May 24, 2007 9:54 AM

So, if the Taliban are so mighty and fierce, what happened to that much touted, "Spring Offensive?"

Yeah, that's right. We kicked their butts before they could even begin.

Now, they just sporadically fight here and there, blow up non military targets - like record stores and such, and make grandiose statements in a pathetic attempt to bolster their own troop's slumping moral...

They're in their death throes...

Anyway,
Cheers,

http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com

Posted by: Doctor Bulldog at May 24, 2007 10:03 AM

The Beast once again becomes manifest.

But hasn't the Disney conglomerate and other competing media made all the beasts friendly and cuddly and just misunderstood ? They were just given a bad rap by society and things beyond their control, weren't they ?

Isn't this where the rubber meets the road in the fantasy spun by the socialists - they want to coddle the poor jihadi (at Gitmo and elsewhere) and reform him (and he just wants to kill you).

What a bunch of a-holes.

Posted by: dgene at May 24, 2007 10:21 AM

'Nasseem, your English is extraordinarily good today.'

Missing are her usual idiosyncrasies that make the average viewer chuckle or spit. Today its construction is in the style of a college student's dissertation thesis. I realise you can't be in two places at once and the running of a busy furniture business necessitates your precious time so it would be only logical to delegate your keyboard dawah to an understudy.

That said, what is 'mild sharia' and how would this square with the more pious amongst you? Secondly what is a 'Wuslim'? Is it a westernised Muslim whatever that may be or a hybridisation of wuss (a feeble or effeminate person) and Muslim ( a strong or masculine person?

Posted by: western infidel at May 24, 2007 10:22 AM

THe Taliban "spring offensive" has become a game of hide and seek....THe Taliban leaders have discovered they suddenly die when they appear....The Taliban thrives only because it contols those who are weak and uneducated....it controls them by violence and death....the operandi modus of paranoid Muslim Islamic clerics..

Posted by: exsgtbrown at May 24, 2007 10:22 AM

Where do they' get all these CD's?

Posted by: MZ at May 24, 2007 10:47 AM

ExSgtBrown,

Gee, and I thought that The Taliban leaders wanted to be martyred... After all, they constantly talk up a big storm and tout the wonders of the heaven that awaits jihadi martyrs... But, I guess they are once again showing what wussies they really are in the game of martyrdom...

Cheers,

http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com

Posted by: Doctor Bulldog at May 24, 2007 10:48 AM

"What the political parties and civil society in general fail to realise is that if the Lal Masjid clerics succeed in appearing as victims of a governmental crackdown the problem will not go away, because it is the next government — and civil society — which will be faced with a similar, and perhaps greater and wide-ranging fitna." according to Naseem

We realize you won't go away because islam tells you to continue until the world is islamicized. Well, we would prefer to reach to higher ideals than islam which teaches people to be the basest of humans.

No matter what a government does today - no matter how pitiful the muslims behave today - it will be tomorrow's problems because muslims prefer to be murdering thugs that bully people to submit to their will.

You are nothing more than animals. Animals will kill their own children as you do. But they usually do it out of necessity - unlike you who do it just for murder.

Posted by: R_not at May 24, 2007 10:53 AM

Assalamau Laikum swimmer,

Are you a sikh?....I have respect for sikhs...and have already said that if I cannot be Ahmadi...than I would be a sikh.

I was disappointed to see India partitioned...it put the islamisation of India back by decades.

I read once that Ludhania was 60% muslim and even Amritsar home of the Golden Temple was 55% muslim back in the 1946.

What an utter waste and lost opportunity that Jinnah chose a small part of India to be Pak...instead of settling for all of India.

Had there been no partition ...I think all of the punjab would be Islam by proxy...sikhs not withstanding.

I know that Panja Sahib, close to the birth place of Guru Nanak is now in Pak. His closest confidant Bhai Mardana was a muslim. Guru Nanak never asked Bhai Mardana to convert to a sikh...and I understand that Guru Nanak went to see Makkah for himself too...such was the greatness of the guru.

We could all learn much from Guru Nanak, certainly no one could show the ways of integration like the guru.

I would very much like to Panja Sahib one time ..particularily now that it is in Pak.

Posted by: Naseem at May 24, 2007 11:04 AM

‘Suicide bombers are being prepared with the help of CDs and instruction manuals as well as inspirational films showing Iraqi insurgents fighting against UN forces,’

......if CDs, instruction manuals, and inspirational films......all showing you how to die...apparently death is the only allowable subject matter for CDs, instruction manuals, and inspirational films in Islam-land...

...any other subject matter (music, films of love, drama, comedy, educational) are subject to destruction if found by the religious police....

...former music shop owners are now cultivating opium fields for the Islamic warlords....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at May 24, 2007 11:20 AM

While Bush may be distancing himself from Mushi, I sure as hell hope that some of the Am'ur'i'cans have gotten very, very close to the location of his nuke stockpile and have made room for for all this excess baggage when they have to extract him.

...Also, I heard that "Mild Sharia" is a dreadful thing to get, last I heard it winds up killing you in the end.

-osgo

Posted by: -osgo- at May 24, 2007 11:39 AM

Does anyone else think that "#@%$* Sharia" would make a great t-shirt?

Posted by: JSobieski at May 24, 2007 12:00 PM

Hey Nassem:
Schedule yourself for a second clitorectomy to go with the ring in your nose - you will feel better. Maybe apply for a job with CAIR, maybe following behind Ibrahim on a chain.
Love your chains and be free, babe.

Posted by: dgene at May 24, 2007 12:25 PM

western infidel

don’t bother asking her any questions, you won’t get an answer. All she can do is spew her garbage about mild sharia, nothing else.

Let's put this to the test again, Naseem, have you ever read the Koran?

Posted by: xena the dog at May 24, 2007 12:42 PM

Jan Sobieski

http://www.cafepress.com/buy/sharia/-/pv_design_prod/pg_1/p_storeid.78943875/pNo_78943875/id_14880628/opt_/fpt_/c_360/

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at May 24, 2007 1:11 PM

Assalamau Laikum Western Infedel,

You ask what is 'mild sharia' and how would this square with the more pious amongst you?

Mild sharia is tenents of sharia mixed in with secular law (Ka-noon as it's known here). Much of secular law is simply too weak, unfit for human consumption and/or not divinely guided....all these issues need to be addressed by law makers from the west and islamic thinkers...because let's face it ..the devil is in the detail.

As for squaring it with the more pious...that's not going to be possible with those lunds right now....which is where YOU come in.

The West must lead the way....when the West starts to introduce tenents of sharia into Western law, the pious over a couple of generations will start to come round. They will realise (like I already do) that peaceful global Islam is preferable to complete secular western society and complete Islamic society....i.e. it is a kind of happy go lucky, peaceful, society world wide with a slight Islamic bias to it.

Gone would be hand/foot chopping or stoning...but equally so would a "caution" by the police for a 12 year old kicking the bejesus out of an old lady and stealing her purse....no lasting harm to the 12 year old...but a few public lashes in the market square wouldn't go amiss to sort his/her thieving habits.

You ask what is a 'Wuslim'? Well it is the the "hybrid", the white or western (could be hindu/chinese/jamican/muslim etc) convert who grudgingly admits that there are (some) good things about secular society but that they cannot bear to be apart from Allah SWT either.

So they convert to be at peace living in the utopia I described above. Every human the world over would be a wuslim....laws would be the same all over as well as currency, bank types, all meats would be halal. People would be expected to pray 5 times a day but this would not be strictly enforced as religious police would not play a part....all would be for the love of Allah SWT.

And yes..dog ...I have read the Koran...what's your point?

Posted by: Naseem at May 24, 2007 1:14 PM

Let's put this to the test again, Naseem, have you ever read the Koran?
Posted by: xena the dog

Reading the Quran quickly morphs the reader, either into Islam or away from it. Those who are repelled show at least average intelligence. (You dont need a college education to get wise to Islam).
Those who enter are either of low itellectual mentality, or are mentally inflicted in such a way that thier judgement is impaired. Thats why reading the Quran pre-converting, is not only not required, it is discouraged. Convert to Islam first, 'then' read the Quran and 'we' will interpret it for you.
If then the convertee decides it's not for him, he finds that getting out could mean death.
Naseem probably has read the Quran. She probably did not enter Islam, she was born into it. But like all muslims, she is disfunctional in her ability to percieve reality. This 'disfunction' manifests as a belief in Allah (Swt), as the one and only. This erronious belief, held onto and maintained, is the terrible cause, behind the terrible manifestations, of negative Islam.
This is a fact that Naseem and her Ummah, never question, and would apostate if they did...

Posted by: duh_swami at May 24, 2007 1:19 PM

The mullah of a mouse in his pocket in "WE" who want to got back to Islamistan is Islamocommunist thugs who benefit greatly from Islam for the following reasons:

1. Women have no rights and therefore are not needed to be dealt with and can just be purchased, legally raped and then beat to submission.

2. Women who have no rights which means they are not competing for jobs nor dealing with them at the work place.

3. The local imam rules and backs every male to beat, rape and murder women at their legal pleasure.

4. Women in this who are promoting Islamistan see it as a sub package like in sexual fetish where they behind the scenes promote their enslavement by Domineering males, but like in all French pillow talk dominate "their captors" to empower themselves.

The weak who can not compete as individuals seek this type of shackled culture as all communist states assail the masses. They can not debate on an issue and win, so therefore they bring in absolutes which benefit them and destroy any challenger "legally".

Posted by: Lame Cherry at May 24, 2007 1:27 PM

Mild Shari'a will never exist or be implemented in The US. The Muslim population will take generations of their current breeding standards to be noticeable. Long before they are a controlling body, they will be slaughtered, like pigs by the non-Islamic US population...It is that simple.

The Islamists are enjoying a good chuckle about the state of world affairs currently, but like all things, that will change as well. Islam is being baited at every turn. An innocuous American Muslim poll here, a lawsuit in an attempt to silence US citizens there, an embarrasing Fort Dix incident...there will be no shortage of events that reveal what Islam is and what it's intention is.

Buffoons like Naseem already know this, but like so many in the US who refuse to acknowledge what Islam really is, likewise Naseem chooses to ignore it or re-write it into some world-wide Islamic victory fairy-tale.

We shouldn't be too hard on Naseem though. She has endured here at JW/DW for years. She should generally be ignored, which being a woman in Islam, she is quite used to, but ultimately pitied.

Think about this boys and girls. Naseem brags about her home of Pakistan all the time. In all honesty, you or I would be hard-pressed to find a bigger boil on the ass of the Earth to live in right now...than Pakistan... with the relatively few deaths incurred during the oh-so-lovely Lahore kite festival notwithstanding.

pitied.

Posted by: awake at May 24, 2007 1:34 PM

Ah yes, the double bind!

This is like the ancient story of the student who goes into the masters home for the days lesson. The master has the student sit down at a table with a cup of tea, then pulls out a stick telling the student that if he drinks the tea, he will get hit with the stick; if he doesn't drink the tea, he will get hit with the stick.

The student is in a logical trap.

Here's the only solution. The student kicks the master in the stones, takes away the stick, rams it down the master's throat, drinks the tea, and leaves.

Lesson learned.

The master will NEVER pull this stunt again; at least not with that student!

Posted by: witness at May 24, 2007 1:44 PM

Naseem

My point: the koran states some very nasty thing about women, how women are not equal to a man, how a woman’s opinion is only half that of a man, the fact that women are to be under the boot of a man, the fact that women have no rights, period.

Now for you to still believe in this cult after reading the Koran, I would say that you are abused and oppressed. You are no different than an abused woman. An abused woman would believe that her abuser is her saviour. All one has to do is study the time period that the taliban controlled Afghanistan to see sharia law in action and how badly women were treated in that society . Afghanistan has/ had the highest number of women working in the prostitution trade? Now why would that be?

Posted by: xena the dog at May 24, 2007 1:58 PM

exsgtbrown; Is that why CD shops keep getting blown up? Or nothing to do with it? Good point though! I would like to hear a CD to hear the propaganda! Who is supplying them and no one is saying anything?! Cave and people coming out of holes in the ground with their CD that want to kill us!

Posted by: MZ at May 24, 2007 3:04 PM

“Furthermore, reality shows that America is behind all problems. We consider (America) to be an enemy because it is the greatest plunderer of our treasure, our oil, and our resources, while millions in our nations suffer unemployment, poverty, hunger, unmarriageability, ignorance, darkness, and so on.”

Thanks for that Nasrallah, but whats the unmarriageability got to do with it?

Also I would like to ask him whether he or even the multitudes of oil rich Muslim men in the Gulf, who regularly drag themselves from their Lamborghinis and Porsches for quick gambling and western girl debauchery trips to Amsterdam, whether they feel poverty and hunger?

Funny though, I would like to shoot Nasrallah with a gun and then stab him with a sword, but I’ll deal with that.

Last thought, I can understand the unmarriageability, ignorance, darkness and so on. I doubt that has anything to do with America though.

Posted by: Mert at May 24, 2007 3:11 PM

Naseem - glad you're awake and posting at 3:00 am Lahore time.

Can you help me with a question? Forget about the Qur'an and Allah TNT and what Mohammed said and what he did and all the rest of it.

Please answer this question: do you look like Yasmeen Ghauri ? If you don't please say 'yes' anyway.

http://www.bartcop.com/yasmeen-ghauri-turns-36-sm.jpg

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at May 24, 2007 3:12 PM

Naseem - glad you're awake and posting at 3:00 am Lahore time.

Can you help me with a question? Forget about the Qur'an and Allah TNT and what Mohammed said and what he did and all the rest of it.

Please answer this question: do you look like Yasmeen Ghauri ? If you don't please say 'yes' anyway.

http://www.bartcop.com/yasmeen-ghauri-turns-36-sm.jpg

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at May 24, 2007 3:12 PM

How could you ever tell anyway? A tent, is a tent, is a tent.

Posted by: Mert at May 24, 2007 3:53 PM

Naseem
may i need to make you aware of ground realities. muslims in punjab did not take any panga even when so called babri masjid was blown up. if you live in pakistan maybe you want to travel in some interiors and see what mothers tell their children " come back home otherwise a sardar is going to kidnap you". it is in the holy book that mecca moved when guru's feet moved. it is all true. ultimately we expect pakistan to be called khalistan it is matter of time. ok bro- let me go and enjoy a glass of cabernet and ham sandwich.

Posted by: swimmer at May 24, 2007 4:07 PM

Hey, let's do a comparison of America and Pakistan, for Naseems' instruction.
Not quite recent figures - an Australian factbook from 1999, but still interesting. Feel free to update (I haven't time to google around, looking for updates right now, myself).

America.
Life expectancy: female 79.58 years (probably higher, today), male 72.85. Women live longer than men.
Literacy levels: around 85 %, separate male and female levels not given since both boys and girls universally attend primary school.
Infant mortality rates: 6.44 per 1000 live births.

Pakistan.
Life expectancy: female 59.96, male 58.23.
Female literacy levels: 22 % (compared to male literacy, est. 47 %; average about 35%). Obvious conclusion - most little girls don't get to go to school.
Infant mortality rates: 93.48 per 1000 live births. (So out of every 100 kids born, 9 die. Not as bad as in some other places, but pretty awful compared to ALL 'western' countries and even compared to a good few non-western non-Muslim countries).

I think I know, speaking as a woman, which looks like a better country for a woman to live in. Women live twenty years longer in secular/ Christian 'kafir' America than in majority Muslim Pakistan; they have a much better chance of learning to read and write; and their babies are much more likely to survive.

If Pakistan takes the Taliban road, stricter sharia, etc., I predict that its female life expectancy and female literacy rates will drop even lower, and even MORE babies will die in infancy.

Postscript:
The infant mortality rate is the simplest and starkest marker of how a society is doing. If babies die in large numbers - the society is SICK, S.I.C.K. (Pre-mandate Palestine, BTW, had an infant mortality rate that was unbelievably awful - things improved under the British, and improved even more after 1948 where Israel's writ ran; from 1967 to 1990 in the 'territories' there was a sharp improvement in public health under Israeli rule, then a collapse after the PA took over; within Israel itself the infant mortality figures for the Arab Israeli pop. are significantly better than in surrounding Arab countries. An Arab Israeli baby is more likely to survive infancy than an Arab baby born in, say, Saudi Arabia.)

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at May 24, 2007 9:19 PM

"Sharia must be good for Pak in the long… it is Allah’s way….and a precursor to Mild sharia in the West."

Naseem,

How do you Mildly cut off someones head or Mildly stone them to death?

Please explain?

Posted by: rational at May 24, 2007 11:23 PM

I have long been of the opinion that Pakistan not Iran,Iraq or even the supremely evil Saudi Arabia is the mainspring of most of the evil Muslim problems in the world today. Their madrassas are the training schools and they are the ones who started the Taliban so much for thinking they would fight them. Virtually ALL the traitors in UK are Pakistanis and the Indonesians and Malaysians go there for training.

Posted by: Realist at May 25, 2007 5:37 AM