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Of course. They're all decent fellows.
Control Orders Update. "Terror suspect was 'nice guy,'" by Gary O'Shea in the Sun, with thanks to Jeffrey Imm:
TERROR suspect Ibrahim Adam poses with his arm around a stunning girl — before he was brainwashed by Islamic extremists.Clean-shaven Adam, pictured aged 17, dressed in a sharp suit for his prom night with school pals.
But a short time later Adam, now 20, grew a beard and ditched his suave clothes.
Now he is one of three terror suspects feared to be headed to Iraq to fight "Our Boys" after breaking a Home Office curfew.
He and brother Lamine, 26, were put under control orders after being investigated for alleged plots to blow up troops abroad.
A third brother, Anthony Garcia, 25, got life for a plot to blow up a shopping centre and a nightclub....
Algerian-born Ibrahim Adam’s classmates from Beal High School in Ilford, Essex, are in shock. One said: “He seemed like a really pleasant guy.
“He was particularly popular among the teachers. No one can believe what’s happened.”
Posted by Robert at May 26, 2007 8:41 AM
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'Control orders'. Well, they're working just great, aren't they. Apparently these control orders were brought in following agitation by 'human rights' groups against incarceration of jihadists. Yet again the communion between far left westerners and jihadists, delivering discomfort and worse to the rest of us.
Posted by: Dane
at May 26, 2007 9:03 AM
The attractiveness of Islam is that it provides a way for angry, unproductive losers to feel good about being angry, unproductive losers
Posted by: PapaBear
at May 26, 2007 9:05 AM
Apparently pious muslims go terrorist is common enough to outlaw islam. does the West have the foresight and courage to act for the end of islam, the final solution as it seems muslims will not condemm these act of terrorism and will not reform.
Therefore the West needs to find a final solution to eradicate islam as it now stands.
at May 26, 2007 9:05 AM
Another tragic victim of SJS (Sudden Jihad Syndrome). I think Dr. Phil ought to devote an entire week of shows to explore this phenomenon.
Posted by: Leave Iraq Now
at May 26, 2007 9:06 AM
Why is it that we so often hear "But he was such a nice guy?" Because, outwardly he is! But on the inside he's all churned up. And by what? Islam! The more he reads and studies the Koran, the more radical he becomes.
The West is filled with such creatures--ready to work their mayhem.
Posted by: Always On Watch
at May 26, 2007 9:08 AM
Do not forget to click on the link at "decent fellows." It will remind you of things you need to remember. It may even make your day.
Posted by: Hugh
at May 26, 2007 9:19 AM
Maybe it was that stunning girl rejecting him that turned him into yet another 'disenchanted youth', ready to slaughter the unbelievers en masse.
On a brighter note, I'd like to let my fellow Jihad Watch readers know that CAGE, our anti-Jihadi website similar to Jihad Watch, is back online, together with our regular daily updates.
Please come and visit us at http://www.acage.org/.
Posted by: dolphin
at May 26, 2007 9:26 AM
PapaBear has hit the nail on the head. I have a good friend who lives in California, but immigrated from Chile when he was 10 years old. The other kids picked on him, even beat him up to the point where he almost lost a front tooth and needed several surgeries. He says about this whole situation, that young alienated immigrants (or, in some cases second generation "immigrants") inevitably run into tension and resentment against the host country. But he was able even at a young age to see this country was great and that it was a "small minority of extremists" that were making him miserable, and the he would overcome it. Only Muslims get a special ideology that nurtures and justifies it, and offers an alternate path that leads to a glorious end of their suffering, in death.
If our leaders would admit to the problem it might be possible to mitigate the problem. Of course, that would involve admitting the existence, and extent, of the Jihad ideology, exposing the religious authorities who promote it, and shaming the rest into cooperating in undermining it. Though Islam itself promotes it, this program is in principle possible, because truth and civility are stronger than Islam, if only people would stop confusing the two.
Posted by: Quijybo
at May 26, 2007 9:28 AM
Those human rights activists are going to get us all killed. They objected to him being locked up. When did they get elected to run the country?
Posted by: Borg
at May 26, 2007 9:40 AM
To everyone who met him, John Wayne Gacy seemed a likable and affable man. He was widely respected in the community, charming and easy to get along with. He was a good Catholic and sharp businessman who, when not running his construction company was active in the Jaycees and was also a Democratic Party precinct captain, when he had his photo taken with then First Lady, Rosalynn Carter. He also spent much of his free time hosting elaborate street parties for his friends and neighbors, serving in community groups and entertaining children as "Pogo the Clown". He was a generous, hard working, friendly, devoted family man...
Cheers,
http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com
Posted by: Doctor Bulldog
at May 26, 2007 10:28 AM
"Jayyousi is now charged, according to the Detroit Free Press, with “conspiring to kidnap, maim and murder by providing money, recruits and equipment for Islamic struggles in Bosnia, Kosovo and Chechnya from 1993 to 2001.”
Shindler noted in the movie that in normal circumstances Amon Goth would be considered "a nice guy". I'm sure the Muslim Nazi collaborator-killers in the Balkans during World War II were "nice guys" under normal circumstances. I'm sure Edina Lekovic is a "nice lady" to Infidels and Jewish people under normal circumstances. A lot of people are "nice" under normal circumstances....but under other circumstances they discard the mask of "niceness"...
http://www2.latech.edu/~bmagee/seneca/schind12.jpg
at May 26, 2007 10:41 AM
OT
Hate crime law comes back to bite muslim on the ass:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Pak_boys_shear_Sikh_students_hair_in_NY/articleshow/2075094.cms
at May 26, 2007 10:42 AM
self described "doctor" bulldog:
"To everyone who met him, John Wayne Gacy seemed a likable and affable man. He was widely respected in the community, charming and easy to get along with. He was a good Catholic and sharp businessman who, when not running his construction company was active in the Jaycees and was also a Democratic Party precinct captain, when he had his photo taken with then First Lady, Rosalynn Carter. He also spent much of his free time hosting elaborate street parties for his friends and neighbors, serving in community groups and entertaining children as "Pogo the Clown". He was a generous, hard working, friendly, devoted family man..."
Hey bulldog, are there Catholic officials who have endorsed crazy Gacy'a actions?
Posted by: scribe10
at May 26, 2007 11:46 AM
It's lucky for docbulldog that there are a few nut cases like crazy gacy so that he can compare them to Islamo-Fascists.
Posted by: scribe10
at May 26, 2007 11:47 AM
Keyzar Trad, “Out Of Context” Sidekick for Al Hilali, Rewrites the Koran:
Fairfax newspapers say Keysar Trad has tweaked the meaning of 799 words and phrases, in a revised edition of the Muslim holy book.
The translation challenges the use of words that critics say have been used to justify a ban on Muslim friendships with Jews and Christians.
No doubt Trad's version will be one to pull the wool over infidel eyes and ears...
at May 26, 2007 12:04 PM
Anything your little ears want to hear!!!...""
Posted by: MZ
at May 26, 2007 12:25 PM
Just think, my fellow jihad watchers, one of these "nice" guys might be living in a neighborhood near You!
Posted by: callmeinfidel
at May 26, 2007 12:26 PM
The lesson off of Startrack, Dr. Spock;" A man must appear insane in a insane society." This must be insane to the muslim jihadist extremist-so they do it appearing insane to their fellowman.
Posted by: MZ
at May 26, 2007 12:31 PM
scribe10,
Ain't I a stinker... :)
Yeah, I've always been fascinated by all of those neighbors that say, "He was such a nice boy, he use to cut my lawn..."
I'm pretty sure that those living next to these psychos have a good idea that something is wrong, but they just take that Liberal attitude and ignore the quirks, while blindly focusing on all the good things. I mean, don't you think that J.W. Gacy's neighbors had to have asked themselves, "what the heck is that gawdawfull smell? And, why is he so interested in little boys?"
Cheers,
http://doctorbulldog.wordress.com
Posted by: Doctor Bulldog
at May 26, 2007 12:46 PM
Hey Doc,
I guess your point was lost in translation. BTW great website you got there.
Ted Bundy, remember that nice guy? Bundy never had to drag any of his victims into his car, they all willingly stepped right in. Nice is fine, sometimes you need to be an ******* though. So if anyone is excessively nice I am always a little suspicious. Show me the ******* in you occasionally that way I will more inclined to believe you are sincere.
at May 26, 2007 12:51 PM
tgusa,
Thanks for the compliment.
Yeah, sometimes I get lost in my own translation...
My point, in a nutshell (i.e. -my brain) is that if one focuses only on the good things about Islam, to the exclusion of the bad, we risk losing our heads...
Cheers,
http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com
Posted by: Doctor Bulldog
at May 26, 2007 1:01 PM
Doc,
Your welcome. I guess I didn’t make my self clear, I got it, no translation needed, but nevertheless appreciated.
at May 26, 2007 1:35 PM
Borg:
"Those human rights activists are going to get us all killed. They objected to him being locked up. When did they get elected to run the country?"
When that grinning idiot Tony Blair decided to incorporate the European Convention on Human Rights into English common law in the form of the Human Rights Act 1998, that's when.
Being a lawyer, Blair knew exactly what effect this would have on UK national security. The security services pleaded with him not to do it. But you know what? He did it anyway. And immediately afterwards his barrister wife formed a new company to concentrate on Human Rights litigation, which has been paid millions in legal aid assistance since the new law was introduced. Nice work if you can get it.
Posted by: Matamoros
at May 26, 2007 1:42 PM
callmeinfidel states, "Just think, my fellow jihad watchers, one of these "nice" guys might be living in a neighborhood near You!"
Of this I am certain!
at May 26, 2007 1:43 PM
He was a nice guy untill Allah got hold of him.
at May 26, 2007 4:10 PM
Mohammad Atta was a "cool" Westernized Muslim, too.
Until he got a case of SJS.
Endemic among Mohammedans, apparently.
One day you're getting lapdances and swilling Coors lite in Florida, the next day, you're on a transcontinental flight, cutting a flight attendant's throat to terrorize the passengers into submission, and then cooly crashing the plane into an office tower.
Go figure...
(Sura 9:5, maybe?)
Posted by: profitsbeard
at May 26, 2007 4:10 PM
I just can't get over the liberal thinking:
Muslims are radicalised by exposure to society and go crazy. (therefore they can't be blamed for what they do)
The Pew research shows that 26 percent of these younger generation want to kill us.
Hello liberals, are you able to connect the dots?
at May 26, 2007 4:16 PM
According to Oxford Dictionary Definition of NICE is:
1.pleasant,satisfactory
2.[ironically]difficult,bad-'this is a nice mess'
3.needing precision & care,involving fine distinctions-'it's a nice point'
4.fastidious
H'mm.Think I'll go for No 2...
at May 26, 2007 7:49 PM
At times, I wonder about the "real nice" Iraqi army guys our troops are training. Ditto the Afghan army "allies."
There appears to be a plethora of "nice" Moslems that suddenly turn jihadist.
P.T. Barnum said it, there's one born every minute (sucker that is).
remember the admonition: "do not take Moslems as friends, for they are friends to each other."
Is that how it goes? No, I remember now. It's an admonition to the "faithful" not to take Jews and Christians as friends.
Well, they (Islamics) do not have to worry about it. I do not trust them, nary a one, and do not take them as friends. I admit though, there are many perfectly "nice," polite, and pleasant ones. But, contrary to many of us, I do not trust them to remain stable as such. And I am not sorry about it.
Posted by: unicorns62000
at May 26, 2007 8:47 PM
Now he is one of three terror suspects feared to be headed to Iraq to fight "Our Boys" after breaking a Home Office curfew.
Why are The Sun putting "OUR BOYS" in "parentheses"?
They are ALL OUR BOYS - worldwide.
They do NOT need to be put in PARENTHESES!
Posted by: Allahfanculo
at May 27, 2007 4:02 AM
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