...and the "Fairness Doctrine" wants to control talk radio (the dhimmicrats and the leftist PC crowd hate talk radio and they hate any internet site that offers differing opinion)....

....both the internet and talk radio are used to broadcast various agendas...

....we have learned a lot in monitoring Islamic websites and by decoding their messages (Muslims love codes)....

...I would hope that "strengthing the portal" means using more people doing more monitoring and deciphering of the messages flying about...

...I would hope neither talk radio or the internet is curtailed in any way....our security forces use both....and much information is
garnered...

...we may save many lives by monitoring ongoing Islamic chatrooms and Islamic websites...I suspect we have already eliminated some terrorists by doing just this...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at May 31, 2007 12:37 PM

I've seen signals from the European Union that they will step up control with 'illegal websites.' But since they recently passed pan-European anti-racism laws that ban incitement of hatred against 'religious groups,' this could potentially make Islam-critical websites illegal, too.

Bullocks! If a website is illegal, it is illegal no matter who is moderating it. Just because a jihadist may be spewing their hatred and fomenting violence against the very countries in which they live, does not mean that shutting them down is a racist act. Let us turn this around on the Jihaddists for a minute. Jihad is a potentially violent act against Jews and Christians for the purpose of coeercing submission to their satanic cult or the extermination of those not disposed to convert. To a muslim, innocent people are other muslims practicing jihad. All others are considered infedels who are fair game for their unrighteous jihad! Is this not incitement of hatred against "religious groups." I say torch the son's of a bitches and give them a one-way ticket back to Wahhib, or from wherever it is they were hatched!

Posted by: Triphammer at May 31, 2007 1:12 PM

Greetings:

I still don't understand why these anti-terrorist tatics need to be announced to the world.

Sneaking up on bad guys was always accptable where I grew up.

Posted by: 11B40 at May 31, 2007 1:14 PM

Triphammer,

Neither the US Congress nor the EU has any Vulcans in its governing bodies. Logic such as yours (and many others) simply has no value there.
Theirs is a looking glass world in which sites such as JW are deemed illegal for "promoting hatred of other religious groups".

Our "internet chatter" will be controlled, much as gun laws control only the already-law-abiding citizen.

Posted by: PMK at May 31, 2007 1:18 PM

When the supposedly Anti-Europe Gordon ‘Dzhugashvili’ Brown is about to inherit the throne it is obvious that anti jihad legislation will become anti freedom legislation.

This ‘leader’ who has never stood for the crown of this country and worst still comes from a party that won with a minority of votes two years ago is reported to have flown into a temper when he heard that the BNP’s Nick Griffin had been acquitted for calling Islam a vicious, wicked faith. The Stalin of western politics is even claimed to have threatened to change the law so he could get his man next time.

While British politics as been infested over the years by politicians like the old major and totally corrupted by pigs like Napoleon in the last decade we have no chance of avoiding their tyranny without mass civil disruption. Obviously the pigs know this and use it to turn our once great country into a police state.

I fear if they win another term we will be forced to fight, but I guess that they are banking on the middle class leaving for warmer climes and the working class staying under the thumb were the communists always have them.

Posted by: Mert at May 31, 2007 1:29 PM

So what are our dear European readers to do when they wake up one morning and find out that their access to Jihad Watch has been permanently blocked?
Is that what is being suggested might happen with this new objective?

Posted by: ThinkForYourself at May 31, 2007 1:30 PM

Personally I’ll use a secure tunnel for access and an old Lee Enfield to keep Nu Arbeit at bay. If that doesn’t work I’ll move to New Zealand, I’ve never seen an hobbit in the flesh.

Posted by: Mert at May 31, 2007 1:38 PM

Come on across the Big Pond Mert!

Posted by: Drewbenstein at May 31, 2007 1:56 PM

PMK -

Your alias sounds like another terror group to me, but hey, my "logic" has no value here. I stand by the statement that if a website is illegal, it is illegal no matter who is moderating it. Regarding Jihad Watch, it can hardly be considered advocating violence, or promoting hatred of "other religious groups," or your precious islam, with a lower case "i." The jihadists are going to awaken a sleeping tiger with their transgressions. Their actions are what motivates suspicion and contempt for islam. The Word of God is mightier than the sword of Muhammed - the real infidel. Perhaps the EU needs more vulcans to awaken the sleeping tiger!

Posted by: Triphammer at May 31, 2007 2:16 PM

Gordon Brown is precisely what Great Briton needs.

Posted by: Triphammer at May 31, 2007 2:17 PM

Yeah just like the Cutty Sark needs a firebomb makeover.

What Great Britain needs is less Orwell and more Churchill thankyou very much.

Do you have hobbits in the US of A Drewbenstein?

Posted by: Mert at May 31, 2007 2:24 PM

Triphammer,
My parents would be very surprised to learn that the first letters of the name they gave me corresponds to a terror group.

I don't consider JW to be advocating violence. I was just trying to say that that is how the Brussels group might well interpret it.

You were stating a perfectly logical position but it's not one that bureaucrats can comprehend.
The problem is with the EU and with some American higherups, not with the people who post on this site. Why such a thin skin?
PMK

Posted by: PMK at May 31, 2007 2:31 PM

Excuse me - was somebody looking for a logical Vulcan?

Signed,

Surak :-)

Posted by: Surak at May 31, 2007 2:32 PM

Surak,
Very GOOD!!!
PMK

Posted by: PMK at May 31, 2007 2:33 PM

Triphammer,

Sorry if I offended you.

Live long and prosper. (You too, Surak)

PMK

Posted by: PMK at May 31, 2007 2:35 PM

What Fjordman is referring to IS already happening in Finland!!!

Mikkos Ellilä is an anti-jihadist blogger who has been summoned by the police for a hearing under Finland’s “incitement against groups” law.

This isn't just some random thought process for Fjordman...he's trying to warn us it's already happening!

Logic be damned when Multiculturalism gets its mitts on you...

Posted by: Miss_Anthrope at May 31, 2007 2:49 PM

I am not sure if there are any illogical vulcans (lol), but hey, what do I know?

What offends me is the duplicity of people who advocate for violence against Jews and Christians (of which in essence the western world is comprised) while asserting that violence against innocent people is against the koran. I have been around enough to witness the crimes of terror/jihad perpetrated against the west for over 30 years. I have seen Imams tell how innocent people are muslim people who practice jihad, while non-muslims are guilty, and not innocent. Splitting hairs isn't it? This is the height of deceit!

Posted by: Triphammer at May 31, 2007 2:51 PM

"But since they recently passed pan-European anti-racism laws that ban incitement of hatred against 'religious groups,' this could potentially make Islam-critical websites illegal, too."

We should pay strict heed to the above statement. Hate crime laws, or laws that ban incitement of hatred against others, for whatever reason, might sound good -- even moral -- when you want to go after the bad guys, but such laws are neither good or moral. They are highly dangerous, and can be turned on the good guys, as well as the bad.

If we want to think, say and write what we know to be true about the Islamic threat, we'd better be willing to endure the lies and hate spewed out by the other side.

And if anyone thinks that Judges in Europe or the United States will make a distinction between our truths and their lies, they'd better think again. Muslims will be given the benefit of the doubt in every case. Sites like Jihad watch could very easily be among the first casualities if these midguided laws are inacted.

Unfettered truth is our best protection against the Jihadists, not laws that they they can use to silence us.

People should be suspicious of any proposed laws that seek to regulate what we think, say or write -- no matter how good they sound.

Posted by: rational at May 31, 2007 3:36 PM

rational said: People should be suspicious of any proposed laws that seek to regulate what we think, say or write -- no matter how good they sound.

This is a persuasive arguement. Perhaps this is why websites such as JW are so important.

Posted by: Triphammer at May 31, 2007 3:50 PM

The UN and EU want control over the internet, and having trying to wrestle it away from the USA. so we all need to keep hammering to keep it where it belongs with the USA!

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at May 31, 2007 4:37 PM

Everybody who wants and attains power needs control of the internet. In political terms the net is the Wild West. Things get said that the powers that be dislike.

But they aren’t daft enough to roll in with arbitrary rules from day one because they know they will get a political shoeing as a result. So they do it slow, little by little.

One day you lived in Great Britain, then a few years later you lived in Britain and then when you would have been old enough to claim your now non existent pension you are living in a province.

The ultimate humiliation is the fact that the pseudo communists are trying to create a Super State, when they spent all my lifetime attacking America for being empirical.

Personally I believe that it is amazing that this little island of mongrels managed to achieve what it did and still does today. We do not have great fields of wheat stretching into the horizon. Our wealth always comes from far shores and it still does today.

The pigs will have the internet under control and they will use the dogs to do it. This is the way of the world. Britain will still be UK Plc. But the people will sing the ‘Beasts of England’ to the tune sung by Gordon ‘Stalin’ Broone.

If you don’t want this to happen then you are welcome to man the barricades and fight. You won’t, we never do until it hurts us personally. Then it’s too late.

Posted by: Mert at May 31, 2007 6:51 PM

I was banned from the forum dutch.faithfreedom.org for publishing a link to stuck mojo's "open season" and was labelled as a racist(sic).

The attitude of the dutch and flemish is to appease the muslims and anything that points to the truth that could upset them is "verboten"!

Posted by: karelmartel at May 31, 2007 10:44 PM

karelmartel, i am shocked you were banned at 'faithfreedom.org', which is itself anti islam web site run by ali sina, an ex-muslim turned agnostic! :) Anyways, what is your religion, ethnicity and race? Just curious :-)

Posted by: Guest77 at June 2, 2007 6:35 AM