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June 11, 2007

Distress call

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From AP (thanks to Kemaste):

A cap is lowered by a crane to the top of the minaret during a ceremony at the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center, the largest mosque in New England, before the first call to prayer, Saturday, June 9, 2007, in Roxbury, Mass. (AP Photo/Lisa Poole)

Why is the flag upside down? Maybe it was just on its way up when Lisa Poole's shutter snapped, but it's a telling photo. From the U.S. Code:

The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.

And here is a capsule explanation of why the Boston mosque is a signal of dire distress.

Posted by Robert at June 11, 2007 7:17 AM
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Perhaps the Fates are poking fun at us?

Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 7:25 AM

I guess it is not the 'British are coming ' this time......

Posted by: mountiangirl [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 7:36 AM

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Posted by: KAOSKTRL [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 7:36 AM

Muslim women crying out? Patriotic construction workers? If it's a prank, toilet paper would've been a nice touch.

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 7:37 AM

Nothing new:

http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=712

Notice also UK flag in this picture is upside down

Posted by: LazarOfSerbia [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 7:39 AM

Tear that thing down!

Not the flag, the mosque.

What an unholy desecration of Old Glory and Boston's skyline.

Posted by: Mike_W [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 7:59 AM

"...toilet paper would've been a nice touch.

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC>>..."

...rocks would have been better....

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 8:03 AM

...any new church steeples with crosses on top being erected in Muslims held lands?.....

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 8:05 AM

Assalamau Laikum all,

Why are you paoples "stuck" on a flag for Allah's sake? maybe it was printed incorrectly ...but put up right.

This is a great day for celebration...a $22M Islamic project has been completed...and the legal action that could have been so damaging for the Boston authorities has been dropped by us wuslims as a gesture of goodwill in the celebrations.

"Minerates R US" have been busy...and the loudspeaker companies will be too.

This is a great step forward for integration in the Boston area...but...Alhumdulilla... particularly so for the grandaughters of the Amerike living close to the mosque.

Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 8:07 AM

The Sunday Boston Globe carried a picture of ululating women, almost all of them Somalis, with a handful of Arabs and one or two local Ingrid-Mattson clones, those who had either found their Spiritual Search at an end when the bus stopped at the arret marked "Islam" or had married some liquid-brown-eyed "Palestinian" or other Arab with whom they had had by now two or three children, not to mention True Happiness as submissive and hijabbed and liberated-from-the-male-gaze and the horrible-Infidel-objectification-of-women that, as we all know, makes life hell - hell, I tell you, hell -- for women in the West, from Segolene Royal to Katherine Hepburn to Marina Tsvetaeva to Marie Curie to Eleanor Roosevelt. Hell, hell, hell.

Now why do you suppose, since there were 2,000 people, almost all of them men, and many of them beared, screaming in mad nurembergian unison "Allahu Akbar" as the symbol of towering Muslim dominance -- that 140-foot minaret -- was capped, why do you suppose that of all the photographs that must have been taken by the photographer, The Globe chose to show not the men, who arranged for that mosque, who will attend that mosque, who will dominate that mosque as they dominate within Islam, but rather a handful of colorfully-draped, Hamitic ladies, not nearly as disturbing as would be that photograph of the men?

And one would like to know -- did anyone at all capture the scene in other, possibly more disturbing photographs? Were there videos taken at the time? And if so, perhaps those videos could be uploaded onto the Internet, so that the Menino Mosque, the Boston Redevelopment Authority Mosque, the mosque paid for partly by the taxpayers of Boston swindled out of receiving the market price for the valuable land on which the mosque is being built, and by individuals or groups or possibly even the government of Saudi Arabia, it would be enlightening for Infidels, in Boston, in Massachusetts, and around the country, to share in the delight, to share in the pleasure, taken by the allahu-akbar men as the 140-foot minaret towered above all else around.

As for the American flag -- why even bother to note whether it was right-side up or not? The American flag, on such an occasion, is nothing at all -- it's merely a prop, for the cameras, for the eyes of Infidels.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 8:13 AM

If ever there was a picture of crosshair superimposed, that's it.

Posted by: mustang65 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 8:39 AM

..one if by land, two if by sea...7000 by GWB...

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 8:55 AM

We're fighting them in Iraq AND we're fighting them on American soil.

Patton was quoted as saying he never liked to fight for the same real estate twice. But, this is exactly what we are going to have to do.

Posted by: BurkasforHitlery [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 9:21 AM

Assalamau Laikum darcy,

Do you live in the Amerike...is this why you are so upset?

I would like you to think about how many times this has happened and all over the world. In India, the hindoos would have been awe struck together with a slight fear of their dhimmi status.

The Hindu womens would have been fearful but now also had a tingle of excitement...an escape from being a boring hindu all the time....to become a muslima ...with meaning, purpose and power, affliiated (eh...sorry married to men who know what it means to be strong...where it is required).

In Turkey the christians would have seen and felt the same electric effect...and in Egypt, Syria, Lebonan, etc..etc.

Now it is your turn ...and the turn of the womens who speak with a twang...never mind...they will make good muslimas too....salivate and enjoy....this is your muqqadar ...server Allah SWT well and you'll be fine.

Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 9:29 AM

I somehow doubt that Muhammad would have gotten Islam up and running if he had used loudspeakers during the adhan. Nothing is more offensive to the kuffar ear on a daily basis, and back when times were less polite, he would have been killed for it. Clearly bid'ah.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 9:36 AM

Old Glory flutters in distress beneath rising muslim mosque minaret:

How symbolic. Wonder if this is what our Forefathers envisioned in their concept ‘separation of church & state’? Does it even matter at this point? This ought to keep the hijab queens and their bearded consorts ululating for awhile.

Posted by: descendantofacrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 9:37 AM

...at least the person who hung the flag is sending the correct message....thankfully the flag was not a white one....

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 9:47 AM

"Now it is your turn ...and the turn of the womens who speak with a twang..."


LMAO.........I live in the south and trust me, if there's one thing the womens who speak with a twang do is know how to shoot!!!

Posted by: Had.Enough [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 9:52 AM

Slightly off topic, but CNN just did a report on UK Muslim schools. The Muslim schools were characterized as racist and separatist and sexist and encouraged anti-social behaviors (Muslims at the school considered themselves as Muslim's first, not "British" at all -- and Jews were "apes" and Christians "pigs"). I caught the tail-end of the report -- and it was so contary to the usual PC nonsense. I've gotta watch for the repeat...am I dreaming here? is CNN waking up? What's going on here?

Posted by: J.S. [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 9:56 AM

It's like the world's upside down -- hey, to see the flag right side up, just turn the minaret upside down.

Posted by: J.S. [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 9:58 AM

"Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."


-These words, expressed six centuries ago by a Byzantine emperor, Manuel II Paleologus, in dialogue with an Iranian scholar. Spoken in September 2006 by Pope Benedict XVI in Ragensburg, Germany.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 10:06 AM

Our elite will not be happy until we are all under the minarets of islam.

Posted by: interestinconundrum [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 10:27 AM

Is that the closest that Kennedy and Kerry could come to socialism? Boston will certainly reap what it has sown.

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 10:36 AM

BTW, Colin Powell want all the inmates at Gitmo to have attorneys and have "rights", he also says we need a lot more moslems in the USA.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070610/pl_nm/usa_powell_dc

The top echelon has a lot of moonbats and traitors...no matter what party they profess.

Posted by: interestinconundrum [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 10:37 AM

"The top echelon has a lot of moonbats and traitors...no matter what party they profess"

Without question. Massachusetts just so happens to have the cream of the crop.

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 10:49 AM

Assalamau Laikum all,

Some are saying "Our elite will not be happy until we are all under the minarets of islam".

While others say "The top echelon has a lot of moonbats and traitors...no matter what party they profess"

What are you peoples like....they will make excellent wuslims...you will just take a little while longer...no worries...

Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 10:52 AM

Roxbury is the Heart of the Ghetto.

A perfect place for this moon 'o theistic, violent Arab supremecist cult to rear its ugly head.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 10:56 AM

Naseem-

http://grammar.qdnow.com/

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 10:57 AM

Mosque building in America should be resisted at the building permit level. No building permit's should be granted on the basis that the presence of a mosque make's the area usafe. That they are a meeting place for terrorist's and a place to plot plot's against the non believing populace. Each mosque, as well as a prayer center, is a miniture Pentagon in itself. There is plenty of evidense that mosques are used for devious purposes.
Stopping mosque building slows the spread of Islam.
There are no mosques in my neck of the wood's, and if one is proposed, I will sue to stop it. I may not succeed, but I will tie it up in litigtion as long as possible. I will rally the townsfolk against it. Of course I will have to fight off the local liberal's here, who would probably think a local mosque would be just dandy...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 10:58 AM

"Dire distress?"

How oddly appropos; and a portend that should be heeded on many levels.

It won't be; just go back to what is truely important in life -- sports!

Keep your eye on the ball; ignore that sword carving at your throat --- watch the game!

American Idols -- that too is what is really important; don't pay no never mind to anything else.

Yup, the game is about up!

Posted by: witness [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 11:10 AM

duh_swami-

"the local liberal's...would probably think a local mosque would be just dandy"

The History channel ran a program over the weekend that had a couple touring India and marveling at some of her ancient structures. As the guide led them to some pillars, he described how the statues were all beheaded by offended muslims essentially defacing the beautiful artwork. All the couple could respond with was “Wow, ok” and “What are we going to look at next?”

The guide failed to mention how this still happens today. Not that the couple would’ve cared much.

By the way, did anyone celebrate on June 8th? (I called it “Mo-down” day)

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 11:14 AM

Assalamau Laikum all,

You know I have been on this site for over 3 years now...I cannot remember the 1st time I came on ...but I do remember that a postee called "Ricky" objected wildly.

In those days ...only 3 years ago I remember a proud set of peoples boasting ...yes literal boasting that the US can never succumb to (the rule of) Islam...this particularily in the light of 9/11 burning brightly.

Now however I sense many of you swaying to accept the inevitable...complaining bitterly...yes...accusing your leaders of betrayal ...yes ...but also an acceptance that(given a short period of time) the ISA is inevitable.

Congress leaders will be wuslim...senate leaders will be wuslim....the president one day will be wuslims....and yes that even your grandaughters will be wuslim.

Although you have complained about the UK, and France...you have seen the light like they have....Allah SWT is in the country, in the state and in the area...and soon to enter your house.

Please keep that top shelf clean...the koran will have pride of place.

Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 11:49 AM

"Please keep that top shelf clean...the koran will have pride of place"

I'll use it to line my birdgage.

Posted by: MoBlows [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 11:53 AM

Or better yet i'll use it to paper train that new german sheppard pup i've been thinking about getting. Pissing on the Qu'ran is a good place to start training a puppy.

Posted by: MoBlows [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 11:55 AM

Naseem-

Perhaps you missed it the first time:

http://grammar.qdnow.com/

Surely one of you is at least as fluent as a fourth-grader...

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 11:58 AM

In my little corner of the conservative lower middle west in the U.S.A., we have a very liberal press that is promoting "diversity". Although 99% of our population is non muslim, you wouldn't know it by sampling our local media. We supposedly have a "mosque" (news photos make it look like a 2 room shack)and the location of this "mosque" is never divulged by the media. Thank God for small miracles. I'm sorry that historic Boston has been so dishonored.

Posted by: porkbelly [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 11:59 AM

Naseem-

Perhaps you missed it the first time:

http://grammar.qdnow.com/

Surely one of you is at least as fluent as a fourth-grader...

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 12:02 PM

MoBlow's...Naseem just act's as Allah's 'thorn in the side', of poster's here. She is well aware that she is an irritant...personally, I think she is funny as all git out.

XRDC...This little town has a population of about 10,000, there are about 9,500 liberal's and two conservative's. Myself and one other, who I never see, because he doe's not come out of his house. The other 498 are drunk, and on drug's and could care less, about most anything. But they are potential liberals.
We have what is called 'The Peace Center', run by raging liberal's. They confiscate, on a regular basis, our one highway overpass and have various demonstration's, usually against Geo Bush. There are candle light vigils, women in black, and all kind's of 'Peace Center' antic's, like sitting in the street and blocking one car. Getting arrested, and their name's in the paper, oh what a joy.
These are the people who whould be tickled pink with a large muslim population and mosques all over the place. That's because 'The Religion of Peace', and 'The Peace Center', have a peaceful commonality.
Gad, these liberals are thick...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 12:06 PM

Posted by: exsgtbrown: "...rocks would have been better...." LMAO!!! I remember THAT conversation, dude! "It's in the Quran..."

Apparently Naseem STILL can't read...this lawsuit was dropped because ISB was AFRAID of what would come out. Typical taqqiya from our "wuzlim wanker".

Naseem - I'll reserve my top shelf for some more appropriate literature (maybe some of my targets from the range - have some tight clusters). I'll reserve my Qurans for toilet paper...only worthy with which to wipe one's ass.

Posted by: Miss_Anthrope [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 12:18 PM

"If buttercups buzzed, after the bee,

If ships were on land, and churches on sea,

If ponies rode men and if grass ate the cows,

and cats were chased into their holes by the mouse,

If mamas sold their babies to the gypsies for half a crown,

If summer were spring and the other way round,

Then all of the world would be upside down."


This song, of course, was played by the British at their surrender at Yorktown. Massachusetts and the City of Boston should take this diddy up as their official anthem.

Posted by: Stendec [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 12:20 PM

Ditty, not diddy.

Posted by: Stendec [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 12:23 PM

I think the fourth-grader is at the fourth grade level. Hmm.

Naseem, care to respond in your "indolent wisdom"?

Posted by: Miss_Anthrope [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 12:24 PM

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Posted by: patriot10 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 12:24 PM

Assalamau Laikum all,

You know I have been on this site for over 3 years now...I cannot remember the 1st time I came on ...but I do remember that a postee called "Ricky" objected wildly.


whatever happened to defender and that professer dude that got his rocks of on the number 19?i rememer naseems BEGGING them to tell the infidels she was a REAL muslim too,good times....

Posted by: patriot10 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 12:35 PM

@interestinconundrum: I saw that Colin Powell interview late last night. I started shouting at the TV, I was so enraged. What the hell is going on in this country when a man like Powell rises to power in both the military and politics and he hasn't got a brain in his head? Either that, or he's now on the Democratic payroll.

Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 12:37 PM

Besides the inevitable resistance which the majority of citizens will employ against an abusive,misogynistic,power-based ideology which seeks to reduced it's adherents into thoughtless zombies,it's those U.S. markets and corporations whose products are most at odds with islam who will make the most noise in the future. Alcohol? Big Tobacco? Try subverting those lobbies,(their legal war chests make CAIR look like a cub-scout troup) not to mention pork lobby,canine lobby,music lobby,organized sport lobby, women dating,wearing makeup and driving/walking alone lobby,religious freedom lobby,banking lobby. No my dear friends,a divided house shall never stand and apologists for islam can make all the noise they want,but at the end of the day one camp shall always be at war with another camp and so on. There shall be no worldwide caliphate,just much suffering and toil for all parties until the resolution. When a civil war develops, islam won't be insulated from the same tactics it utilizes and the "wuslims" as one poster calls them, will never see them coming,only the carnage the following morning. Each generation sports a Sparticus.

"I can forgive you for killing my children,but I can never forgive you for forcing me to kill your children." -Golda Meir

Posted by: kafir world [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 12:38 PM

Assalamau Laikum all,

MoBlows...surely you wouldn't punch a muslima in the mouth...so very uninfedel like...Now I know that some of you are upset...but this is to be expected and with good reason....I understand that...here is the complete point...Islam does not only affect your life ...but the life of all future generations of your lineage.

Now this is a BIG thing and I agree that once conversion of the said lineage is done...there is little chance of reverting back to christianity...but really why would you want to?

I think when the tilting point is close...we may see a bit of infedel resistance...but really there is no need.

In 10 years time when you are driving in your rape seed powered SUV ...you will hear the azan in every town...it will have become a way of life...a way of acceptance, bit by bit. All you need to is show a bit of flexibility, a willingness to learn.

How times will change...you will have been laughing at rules of Islam...bearded fellows, and tented females you said...and yet from these will emerge the imams that will teach your grandaughters to cover up..to not show their meats...and have that jolly at the Boston Mosque on Jumai ki raat (friday nights) instead of wasting their time at the local discos/nite club.

There can be no greater turnaround....this is the power of Islam...join soon.

Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 12:39 PM

Foehammer...I shout at the tv also, yell even, and I thought I was the only one.
I gave up on Powell when I found out he is/was a member of the CFR, Council on Foreign Relation's'...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 12:41 PM

Naseem,

We keep you around to allow free-thinking Western women to be reminded why they must raise strong children and instill in them a love for country and the desire to stomp Islam into the dirt.

Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 12:45 PM

@duh_swami: LOL. Nope, you're not alone. I'm an A-class television shouter. One time I got so angry, friends overheard me on a nearby telephone and thought I was killing someone in another part of my house. That was a tad embarrassing, but when one is angry enough to yell at a TV set, one is not apt to think about much else before doing so. ;)

Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 12:48 PM

Naseem wrote:
"Congress leaders will be wuslim...senate leaders will be wuslim....the president one day will be wuslims....and yes that even your grandaughters will be wuslim."

Typical bombast from Naseem. She really does not believe this, but regurgitates it regularly as an attempt to incite. She is well aware that barring the removal of the second amendment of the US Constitution, this is an impossibility. 50 Senators can not stay the hand of hundreds of millions, indefinately.

The problem is, the more we allow the Islamists dig in on the front end, the more painful it will be to extract them on the back end, but make no mistake about it, Islam and it's adherents will be extracted if necessary. The Muslim "backlash" that we here so much about, but never actually see, will certainly come to a furious, bloody head if the US is adequately provoked. Naseem also talked about France as a model for the future of the US. She is correct in noticing the trend, but she must also be aware that a new sherrif appears to have entered town their quite recently.

When, and only when, a European country truly goes Islamic, will Nassem's words have any credence. In the meantime, let her get back to her cause of subjugating women and lobbying for the removal of their rights, as was indicative by her "pandora's box" statement. She has thoroughly proven herself as a useful idiot to the Islamists as well as to the community here at JW/DW.

Although she fails in her attempt to be clever, she is not stupid, with her being educated in the UK, of course, for no education of any value can be attained in the cesspool she lives in known as Pakistan, with the noted exception of the Islamic indoctrination education she and countless others have received and continue to receive. The only problem with her home-grown education is that it has not seemed to assist her Islamic society in Pakistan in any positive way, unless of course your definition of positive is radically different from those in the world of the sane.

Posted by: awake [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 12:48 PM

Naseem...grow up...you can bring Islam to America, and you can usurp the gov politically, but you cant make anyone, love, honor, or respect, Allah, Islam, or even the prophet. While your usurping Imam's may be telling our grandchildren lie's, their grandparent's will be telling them the truth.
The resistance to Islam, will not get less, it will get stronger, untill you invader's are driven out.
We will drive you out intellctually, legally and forceably. Islam cannot survive in America as a dominate power. WE WONT ALLOW IT...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 12:49 PM

Naseem , any Muslim that tries to enforce and Impose their way of life on ME will get a punch in the face and eventually even more. so don't be shocked when it happens!


It's disgusting how you Barbarians use the freedoms and good will you recieve in our lands to use our Freedom of speech and goodness against us!

Your arrogance is astounding. What has your would brought to the world besides this arrogance and this hatred of all other Religions and creeds? Nothing. you cannot even evolve without us having to drag you kicking and screaming into the light. without US you would all still be nomads and Goat herders . it was US who found , devoloped and helped YOU exploite your own natural resource , OIL , and you HATE us for it. we gave you Cellphones ( convienient for remote detonating ) and every single luxury and modern amenity you have , like Medicine . without us you are just a bunch of Wild cultists who kill for their eveil Prphet and your moongod.

Grow up idiot!

You are standing on a very flimsy foundation. you will reape the whirlwind one day. Democracy and Western civilzation will not die WITHOUT A FIGHT. your constant underestimation of us is our best weapon. YOU won't even suspect OR see it coming.

Sucker!

Posted by: MoBlows [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 12:53 PM

My neighbor and I went shooting at the range together over Memorial Day weekend, Naseem. That's the part about America that CAIR is overlooking. You might fool many Americans into slumber. You might one day even push our government over the brink, but when the American people get angry enough, it's over.

This is a nation OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE.

Islam is pissing off too many of the American PEOPLE to go unchallenged. It is only a matter of time before words fail and patience runs out, and then I guarantee you that all the warnings I've been handing out over the past 6 years as to what not to wish for in America if you're a Muslim will come true.

Let's assume Islam gets everything it wants for a few days. When the citizens march on Washington and take it all back a week later, you'd better hope Allah actually listens to prayers.

Unfortunately, for you, your "tooth fairy god" (thanks Christopher Hitchens) doesn't exist.

Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 12:58 PM

Foehammer, if Allah actually listened to Mulsim prayers or loved Muslims he wouldn't let them Kill each other and themselves like they do . Allah and Mo have forsaken their cult. Allah does not care about or love Muslims . Allah and their Prophet only love to watch them die and suffer , and they try sooo hard to merit that love don't they?

Posted by: MoBlows [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 1:05 PM

"The killer-zombies are coming! The killer-zombies are coming!"

Or is it the Pod People?

In which case that should have read: "The Pod People are coming! The Pod People are coming!"

I am not sure which.

But either one is very, very BAD!

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 1:11 PM

Naseem please get off line so that you may tend to your Islamic beheadings, amputations, stonings, burnings, whippings, and beatings--- allah commands you to go off some unbelievers right now!!! so get moving!!!!!

This is a tree talking to you from the Kuran-
through me.

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 1:15 PM

A pity that the minaret cap didn't slip off and land on Teddy K. or some equally useless "luminary" below.

One more symbol of American blindness, stupidity and self-destruction.

May the first muezzin be stung by a bee on the tongue as he opens his mouth to bellow.

And may the first major earthquake in living memory strike Boston ... and leave this insult to liberty a pile of splinters.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 1:44 PM

Assalamau LAikum Pythagoras,

Don't worry about me ...I don't support beheadings etc. ...this is unlike the Amerike who support their own domination by Islam.

Think for a moment who designed and built this lovely building. ...Yes you are right...American labour and expertise....and if I remember rightly...the Amerike tax payer.

Don't take it out on me....ask your own peoples.

Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 2:03 PM

Naseem,

Don't listen to those who tell you to stop posting. Your fantasy world is on full display every time you post. It's hard to hate something that makes me smile.

Keep posting and showing us just how far removed from reality you are. People who are wavering will become more certain why Islam should be resisted at all costs. (BTW, even if in your mind you're serious, it's still good to read. Fantasy novels and fairy tales never get old.)

Posted by: PMK [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 2:06 PM

Keep hiding behind that forked tongue Nassem the Muslim Coward (as if there is any other kind of Muslim ) Everyone of your 1 billion fellow cultists is a Blind Sheep that follows the will of a Murdering Pedophile prophet. What a great rolemodel you have there in Mo . the perfect model for Human behaviour/ hilarious stuff . I wish you could understand why we hate and laugh at you so. you are a blind idiot.

Posted by: MoBlows [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 2:09 PM

Good news, even in Pakistan, a former Muslim becomes a Christian, praise God.

http://www.pakistanchristianpost.com/articledetails.php?artid=446

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 2:13 PM

"Good news, even in Pakistan, a former Muslim becomes a Christian,"

And is MURDERED shortly there after

Posted by: MoBlows [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 2:15 PM

MoBlows,

This is why we must pray for these Christians that God keeps them safe.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 2:16 PM

Article of 16,000 Muslims in Africa leaving Islam to become Christians.

http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 2:20 PM

You may not like what Naseem says, but listen to them carefully.

If the American people stubbornly refuse to keep their political leaders like muslim Albanina's new national hero, george bush under heel; and if they stubbornly refuse to hold their political elites accountable, who insist on confiscating their tax monies and using them as foot baths for muslim use only in public facilities; if they are hell-bent on ignoring a militarized police force that has no problem with shooting tax cheats in the back in the early morning hours, but are too afraid to even question those openly running islamic terrorist training camps in places like New York -- then Nasseem is absoultely correct in her assesment of what will happen in this country.

Bush I & II, Clinton, and the whole filthy lot elected to power in the United States has openly betrayed the Constitution and has done everything possible to destroy and subvert the nation from within -- and the people have done nothing.

America is a moribund animal in the desert and soon to be rotting, bloated corpse stinking in the sun if the people refuse to awaken.

islam and its muslims are merely little white maggots who seek to feast upon the carcass and bones -- by themselves, they are nothing and can be easily squashed.

The only question that remains is what will the people do?

The consensus is that they will do a lot of kicking and screaming; sure they'll curse; they'll threaten to thus and so and this and that and the other thing; they'll huff, they'll puff, and then they'll blow the suds off the top of their freshly poured glasses of beer and watch the games.

The would would do better to listen to Nasseem -- listen to her Tokyo-Rosish warning.

The leaders back then identified the enemy -- nowadays, the can't; the leaders back then, believed in winning wars; nowadays, they don't; the leaders back then, put a stop to the bunds and built interment camps; the leaders nowadays, would not build camps except for their own citizens and would fund the newly invited enemy with open arms to supplant the real citizens.

What will the people do?

Time will tell indeed, what is bluster and what is not.

Posted by: witness [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 2:53 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070609/480/dbf835c854ab4a96ad89e6e6510705e9

This is what will happen sunshine, the American people will produce a situation where Muslims in America will have expressions like these, in the image link, only the commentary will be " Oh Allah help us, the s**t has hit the fan!"

Posted by: Jihadtobejoking [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 3:07 PM

MoBlows

According to that link, the Paki Christian convert in question made out of there and now lives in Bangkok. Let's hope a day never comes when Muslims capture Bangkok and declare Thailand an Islamic country.

Posted by: Infidel Pride [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 3:16 PM

Then, again, Naseem isn't a Muslim. He/She/Them are Ahmadis. They are followers of a sect of "Islam" which the majority of Muslims reject. The Ahmadis think that their "founder" received divine revelations -- thus calling into question Mo's claim to be the "seal of the prophet." If Mo's claims are suspect, then so too all the other musings by Mo, and thus we see how easily the unraveling of this "religion" begins. That's why Ahmadis are persecuted in Pakistan and elsewhere.

Sooo, Naseem -- which sect of the Ahmadis do you belong to -- the Qadianis or the Lahorites??

Posted by: J.S. [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 3:38 PM

memo to witness: there are plenty of Americans who ARE fighting Islamic infiltration into America tooth and claw. A look at the UAC link or the anti-CAIR for instance provide plenty of evidence.

We really don't need any cassandras shouting warnings of doom and bogus recriminations like yours.

Plenty of us ARE fighting Islamic imfiltration as I say. I know as I am among their ranks.

Posted by: pythagoras [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 3:39 PM

l think Hugh had a hand with that distress call in Boston.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 3:40 PM

witness wrote:
"...then Nasseem is absoultely correct in her assesment of what will happen in this country."

Beyond doubtful. Islam will be forced into a recessive state here in the US. The only question will be is how messy that inevitablility wil be.

As I stated previously, when a Europen country goes Islamic, we can talk. Right now it's just Naseem "tooting her own Islamic horn", as usual.

Quite tedious, indeed.

Posted by: awake [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 3:48 PM

Then, again, Naseem isn't a Muslim. He/She/Them are Ahmadis. They are followers of a sect of "Islam" which the majority of Muslims reject. The Ahmadis think that their "founder" received divine revelations -- thus calling into question Mo's claim to be the "seal of the prophet." If Mo's claims are suspect, then so too all the other musings by Mo, and thus we see how easily the unraveling of this "religion" begins. That's why Ahmadis are persecuted in Pakistan and elsewhere.

Sooo, Naseem -- which sect of the Ahmadis do you belong to -- the Qadianis or the Lahorites??

I miss her buddies on her,listening to her BEG them"Tell them i'm a REAL muslim too!!!"funny as hell.....it probly done her in when i got her to admit that she was disgusted that old mo married a 6 year old,dont think they liked that to much.

Posted by: patriot10 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 3:56 PM

You have to understand that millions of people over the world who are not inclined toward Islam and are in fact card carrying ‘Islamophobes’ are still carrying on with there daily lives and getting on with stuff, like the rest of us. They have not found this web site perhaps or they do not feel inclined to post on this web site (or others like it) but they are nonetheless, seething and filled with disgust at what is being allowed by our respective governments in the apparent appeasement of Muslims and the faith they follow.

It should be noted that the comments on the Time Out article, “Is London’s future Islamic” http://www.timeout.com/london/features/2993.html, have been disabled. I had posted there and had been keeping an eye on comments made on this particular article and quite frankly the comments posted were inflammatory to put it mildly, such is the disgust that Islam and its followers are held in and the site operator has obviously been somewhat horrified at the response.
I would say to the Naseem's of this world that it is premature in the extreme to feel anything positive about the building of Mosques in America or anywhere else because when it comes down to it, the number of ‘officials’ involved in allowing this idiotic situation are far outweighed by the number of seething opponents to it. They, like the followers of Islam, can and most probably will be silenced or removed and not in that particular order.

It’s all down to education y’see. You have to explain to those who don’t know that Mohammad married a six year old and deflowered her when she was nine……that really gets to people. One can build on this simple fact and I have been busy on that score, from ‘suckling’ to having ‘sex with babies’ it’s a fantastic religion to rip to bits!
I openly admit to having a less than positive opinion of those who follow religion, of any flavor, but Islam is just so easy to demolish…..sorry Naseem but the roars of laughter I listen to at the tea breaks at work when describing the various ‘Fatwas and ignorant beliefs that are held so dear by your co-religionists, who do not speak nor understand Arabic, make for an entertaining break. Perhaps it should be renamed Islahahahahm?

Posted by: Jihadtobejoking [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 4:01 PM

Naseem:
Please keep that top shelf clean...the koran will have pride of place.

I use it for toilet/restroom paper. It is not fit for anything else.


Posted by: UK Infidel Lover [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 4:30 PM

They can get away with this "in your face" tripe in boston...but not in too many other places, where they'd promptly get the beatdown from the locals.
They only pull this stuff where they know they can get away with it.

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 4:56 PM

Folks, I tend to ignore Naseem. That is the best thing to do because it is not worth having your hot buttons pushed.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 5:13 PM

witness,

You forget that what has been happening with the border issue and the US Senate amnesty bill that thanks to conservitive talk radio and angry objections to amnesty is a good sign of the starts of an angry backlash.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 5:21 PM

I dare these animals to blare their 5am call to prayer after a standard Boston night of the wicked binge.

And don't feed the troll. It just serves as entertainment to help while away her self-inflicted religious imprisonment.

Posted by: Know Your Enemy [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 5:58 PM

I am so pissed that has happened in Boston. Is that symbolic or what?

Naseem, fyi.. there are soooo many of us getting ready to kick a.. big time, you aint seen nothing yet.

Posted by: MusHuntCowboy [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 6:16 PM

Make no mistake about it, Islam is winning the war in the US.
There are elections coming up and unless you bloggers out there are really organized the US WILL GO DOWN so don't be complacent and think someone else will do it for you. Get out there, let your election canditates know how you feel and I don't mean by blogging or emailing (because the emails aren't read anyway.) PERSONALLY hand them petitions from the voters. Get out there on the streets. Organise groups to visit canditates offices. WORK HARD, PRAY and GOOD LUCK.

Posted by: homefiresburning [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 6:40 PM

Is London’s future Islamic? They might have disabled the comments but the cache is still up for grabs!
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:xsEUVUNrIw0J:www.timeout.com/london/features/2993.html%3Fcpage%3D8%26ccat%3D5+Jihadtobejoking&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=uk&client=firefox-a

Curiously enough almost all Muslim articles have had the comments disabled....
http://www.timeout.com/london/features/2976.html

http://www.timeout.com/london/features/2991.html

http://www.timeout.com/london/features/2872.html

http://www.timeout.com/london/features/2991.html

http://www.timeout.com/london/features/1780.html

Oh deary me, seem like there's been a backlash of sorts. Just goes to show you that there's a simmering undercurrent of distaste for Islam and more importantly the posters who have been silenced are not frequenters of JW.
See, it's not all gloom.

Posted by: Jihadtobejoking [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 6:59 PM

To whom it may concern:

I don't want to spoil anyone's fun, but after seeing the posts here and some others over the years from "Naseem," I do believe that this "Naseem" person is having one on. I do not believe he is a woman, and I highly doubt that he is a Muslim at all. It seems most likely from the posts above that this is someone who is enjoying getting the reaction he has provoked. It would be prudent, I think, to pass over his comments in silence.

Cordially
Robert Spencer

Posted by: jihadwatch [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 9:16 PM

Meanwhile, wishing for the deaths of anyone, even non-Muslim provocateurs who are having their fun posing as Muslimas, is not welcome here, and will get you banned. You know who you are.

Cordially
Robert Spencer

Posted by: jihadwatch [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 9:19 PM

Now however I sense many of you swaying to accept the inevitable...complaining bitterly...yes...accusing your leaders of betrayal ...yes ...but also an acceptance that(given a short period of time) the ISA is inevitable.

Congress leaders will be wuslim...senate leaders will be wuslim....the president one day will be wuslims....and yes that even your grandaughters will be wuslim.

Although you have complained about the UK, and France...you have seen the light like they have....Allah SWT is in the country, in the state and in the area...and soon to enter your house.

Please keep that top shelf clean...the koran will have pride of place.

_______

Whether or Not Naseem is for real, the opinions reflected by Naseem's postings to reflect the desires of some people on this planet.

As a general reply to those sentiments I wish to remind Naseem of the following:

1.) I actually do own a Qu'ran, but it isn't occupying the top shelf in my library.

2.) Christians have been persecuted before the Prophet was even born. You are sadly mistaken if you think Islam will triumph over Christianity.

3.) Enjoy the ride of the Media and the PC mentality while you can. The storm is coming.

Posted by: Monkeywho [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 10:04 PM

Now however I sense many of you swaying to accept the inevitable...complaining bitterly...yes...accusing your leaders of betrayal ...yes ...but also an acceptance that(given a short period of time) the ISA is inevitable.

Congress leaders will be wuslim...senate leaders will be wuslim....the president one day will be wuslims....and yes that even your grandaughters will be wuslim.

Although you have complained about the UK, and France...you have seen the light like they have....Allah SWT is in the country, in the state and in the area...and soon to enter your house.

Please keep that top shelf clean...the koran will have pride of place.

_______

Whether or Not Naseem is for real, the opinions reflected by Naseem's postings to reflect the desires of some people on this planet.

As a general reply to those sentiments I wish to remind Naseem of the following:

1.) I actually do own a Qu'ran, but it isn't occupying the top shelf in my library.

2.) Christians have been persecuted before the Prophet was even born. You are sadly mistaken if you think Islam will triumph over Christianity.

3.) Enjoy the ride of the Media and the PC mentality while you can. The storm is coming.

Posted by: Monkeywho [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 10:05 PM

"Now however I sense many of you swaying to accept the inevitable...complaining bitterly...yes...accusing your leaders of betrayal ...yes ...but also an acceptance that(given a short period of time) the ISA is inevitable."

Naseem,

If you live in the West, evidemtly you don't want to live in an Islamic paradise either. You'd better pray to Allah that it's not inevitable.

Posted by: rational [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 10:27 PM


Nice building. It'll make a great pizza pub one day. The cap in the photo above will be replaced by a huge lit up sign shaped like a pizza and a mug of the frosty brew. God Bless America.

Posted by: Prickzilla [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 11, 2007 11:42 PM

Robert--

I won't beg to differ, but I do differ. I think Naseem is what she claims: a Pakistani woman, and a member of the Ahmadiyya (Qadianis).

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 12, 2007 12:20 AM

Naseem,

You have not travelled throughout the US like I have. Do you recall hearing about the "red states"? This is the America that will never submit. Not now or not in 100 years.

Posted by: Jebat [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 12, 2007 12:27 AM

You are right Robert, I'm not going to waste anymore time on Naseem or any other Troll . Nobody here is going to change the mind of a Muslim ( Phantom or not ) and Vice Versa. it's really a lesson in futility.

We can best serve the cause by keeping it civil and on target as far as conversation goes. I do know that the threat talk and the Anger has backfired as far as getting the message out to the unaware . it CAN come off as just old fashioned Hate.

We ARE better than that.


Thanks for the reminder.

Posted by: MoBlows [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 12, 2007 12:28 AM

Again they are given priviledge's! Mixing state and religion! The statement there is nothing we can do about it either! It is saying our beliefs and everything we stand for is unside down! While their mosque stands strong in AMERICA!

Posted by: MZ [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 12, 2007 12:58 AM

Naseem (it's #12's turn today, the funny one) said

only 3 years ago I remember a proud set of peoples boasting ...yes literal boasting that the US can never succumb to (the rule of) Islam...this particularily in the light of 9/11 burning brightly

There is no chance that Islam will ever "rule" the U.S. Islam can't even "rule" Pakistan or Afghanistan, they're blowing each other up every other day over there, and couldn't even run an economy of rug-weavers and goat herders. Islam cannot create, Islam can only destroy. 9/11 was only one example, there are hundreds more. I assume there will be more Islamic attacks within the U.S., perhaps surpassing 9/11. But Islam will never "rule" the U.S.; in fact, Islam's days in the U.S. are numbered.

[BTW, I like this Naseem. The other ones take their prank a little too seriously. Their vitriol is a little too convincing.]

Posted by: special_guest [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 12, 2007 2:23 AM

Off Topic for a bit!!!We know Muslims/Islams use speakers to blah blah their meaningless mumbo jumbo mess.

Want to see them scurry away...use loud speakers near mosques and sing or play "When John Came Preaching". Sing about Jesus..they cannot stand it.

I saw a Muslim man from Pakastan who is living in America get the heck out of dodge when a lady stood on stage and sing "When John Came Preaching".

He got those speed boots in gear and poof..he was gone out the building, lol.

I thought hmmmmm, he could not stand the name of Jesus...tell me Islamics/Muslims are not antichrist spirit roaming around today. (Muslims..where is ya daddy (antichrist soon to arrive)...oh . thats right his name is Mahdi.

Back to the story here at point...why do we allow them to use our flag and place it upside down. Why do we allow anyone to mis use our wonderful "OLD GLORY" . A true American will never abuse our flag.Don't mess with my Country! Grrrrrr to you pathetic anti-American, anti-God people. Don't mess with my family, my home, my dog or my flag !!!

Posted by: Cher [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 12, 2007 5:11 AM

Thank-you Robert for that reminder.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 12, 2007 6:07 AM

Jebat,

Plus also the legendary "red states" of the USA, many of the folks who live there are not only are very faithful Christians, but also many do "pack heat". One does not want to get into a fight with them.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 12, 2007 6:10 AM

Hugh,

"Naseem" is very good, but now and again he forgets the stories he has spun, and contradicts himself. As above:

and the legal action that could have been so damaging for the Boston authorities has been dropped by us wuslims as a gesture of goodwill in the celebrations.

"Us wuslims"? I understand "wuslims" is his coinage for Western Muslims, but "us wuslims"? I thought "she" was in Pakistan.

Meanwhile, he uses a "yahoo.co.uk" email address.

Yrs
R

Posted by: jihadwatch [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 12, 2007 6:12 AM

Assalamau Laikum Robert, Hugh

If you want me to "disappear" (i.e. no longer post) ...just say the word (from either one will do)...and I'll be gone, it's your website...and if you don't want me ...that's not great...but it's cool, I'll respect your wishes.

Yankee...I am a Lohri Ahmadi ...not an Quadani. The difference is that the Lohris think that our founder was a good spiritual leader ...but NOT the Mahdi...the quadanis think that he was the Mahdi.

Mr. Spencer as to my term of Wuslim...yes I catagorise myself as a wuslim...I do not agree with some aspects of Sharia...like stoning, or hand chopping. I believe that Wuslims would adopt this position...and I am happy with this, also I lived in the UK from nearly 20 years...so I am half Western.

OK now for the "yahoo.co.uk" email...yes I do use it...and it is disappointing that you would publish this detail here. Just as you want your details to remain anonomyous ...well so do I, I trust you will NEVER publish Internet Addresses.

I have a VPN connection from a service provider here in Pak over the internet...that terminates in...(yes you guessed it...the UK). I set up & use a the address and vioala off I go.

It is slow,...so I usually do all my messages on wordpad ...and then paste it.

Whether you believe me or not...that's your problem not mine. My goal is the one it has always been...peaceful Dawa. I am NOT multiple personalites...I am only one...Naseem.

It is amusing that people start to attack me personally ....I am only the messenger here...I don't live in your country and have contributed in no way to the building of this grand mosque....indeed it is you the Amerike who has provided the funds, the design, labour costs, expertise ...YOU have brought about it's birth...so I don't understand the personal attacks...but I can live with them.

I have simply pointed out the extensions that will eminate from Allah's SWT house....and you don't like it...well tough...nobody seems to cope well with Islam at the beginning...after that all is Dandy...as it will in Boston.

Allah Hafiz...from muslima Naseem (a lahori Ahmadi living in Lahore).


Posted by: Naseem [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 12, 2007 6:43 AM

"Naseem":

You are not banned. It is a matter of indifference to me whether you post here or not. I just believe you are putting everyone on, and thought I'd alert them.

Meanwhile, I did not in fact publish your email address, as anyone and everyone can plainly see. The only email addresses I have ever published are from those of your putative countrymen who have threatened me with death.

Cordially
Robert Spencer

Posted by: jihadwatch [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 12, 2007 8:32 AM

Naseem,

If Robert or Hugh wanted you gone, you would have been long ago.

Whether you are a man or a woman, are one person or many, or even a Muslim at all, it is irrelevant. Your purpose of resident useful idiot here on the boards is well-served to obtain a look into the enigmatic and primarily illogical mindset of an Islamist.

Some points to consider:

First, it is obvious to many that your posting style varies noticably in terms of grammar and spelling.

Secondly, your posts range from an attempt to convince the community that the peaceful Da'wa you speak of is your only goal here, to other tones of bravado when you inform us that our granddaughters will all be burka-clad.

Third, you should realize that you have not swayed a single solitary soul to embrace Islam who was not already pre-disposed to do so. Your ludicrous reference that AIG was on her way, was just that, ludicrous.

Finally, Robert has seized an immediate opportunity to call you out on another of your many misrepresentations. You have never referred to yourself as a wuslim. You are always self-identified as a Ahmadi Muslima. Robert is correct in that your derogatory reference to wuslim is a reference to "white" or "western" Muslim, which reveals your position as a racist, but we all know that Islam is a vehicle for Arab supremacy, so we do not really take offence on that ground.

I personally enjoyed engaging a dull blade like yourself, but I admit, it was merely self-serving and usually short, since you never respond to my posts, thankfully. I will heed Robert's suggestion and skip over your usual tripe without a response, with reserved exception under certain circumstances, for I understand his reason for the suggestion to the community.

I wish you well in your continued failure to convince any sane person to subscribe to Islam, and may you enjoy your abundant time wasted here.

Regards,

awake

Posted by: awake [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 12, 2007 8:59 AM

Ah...A Lahorite...

Sooo, Naseem, how come you figure your "leader" wasn't the Mahdi, eh? Not good enough?

Also, why did you move back to Pakistan? Figure it's a better environment or what?

Posted by: J.S. [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 12, 2007 9:07 AM

"I have a VPN connection from a service provider here in Pak over the internet...that terminates in...(yes you guessed it...the UK). I set up & use a the address and vioala off I go."
Posted above

Very interesting:

Assalamau Laikum all,

Please excuse me for being off topic for a moment. On a different thread peoples like 1069 and IP expressed alarm and concern when they heard that the Pak government is banning certian sites and could include JW..and hence lose contact with me, Naseem.

Let me put you all at ease and say that I will be right here...you need not fear me disappearing.

You see due to our business connections, my son has set up something called a VPN across the internet to an ISP in another country. By all accounts he says it is like a private tunnel. The ban would not affect me unless there was a ban at the far end.

Further he says it is protected by DES (I don't know what that is, but he said it was some sort of electronic key, which could take several days to decode, provided you stay on line). He said that he asked for 3des but this was allowed by the infedel/Kafur 3rd country to Pak.

So, by all accounts this ban will not affect you know who.

With my knowledge of Islam, I will be right here to guide you through conversion and beyond.

1069, IP never fear, Naseem is here. With that good news ...over to you.

Posted by: Naseem September 8, 2006 2:17 PM

Sooo... given your typekey login reports to Robert your e-mail address, and presuming it has always been the same (which Robert would know), why did you START posting three years ago using a UK Yahoo! address? Inquiring minds would like to know.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 12, 2007 12:08 PM

Naseem:
Allah Hafiz...from muslima Naseem (a lahori Ahmadi living in Lahore).

Naseem,

In all your postings here in JW, there is one thing I should draw your attention to about Islam:

There is central authority

You strike me as you pick and choose which bits of Islam you choose to believe. But you should know that other Muslims dont have that approach.

You might find yourself imprisoned because other Muslims decide you are not Muslim enough, in fact you are kuffar to them. And that applies to your situation in Pakistan.

Lahore might seem cosmopolitan. But I think Talabanic Islam will reach in Lahore.

You will be in Burkha before long.
No music, not Islamic..
DVD restrictions...
Maybe education restrictions...

When you are no longer posting here because Pakistan has got so severe, you might think of the rest of us who never want to see Islam in force in the West. You might be in prison, accused of adultery. You see, I think all of Islam is bad.

Posted by: UK Infidel Lover [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 12, 2007 6:23 PM

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