Well, I'm going to print up some "Behead those who insult JWHW's chosen people" and "Death to Saudi Arabia" and "Death to Iran" signs and find the nearest embassy and consulate of an muslim country and throw some rocks, maybe some molotov cocktails. Whose with me?

Posted by: schwaben at June 19, 2007 11:00 AM

Joseph Goebbels would be proud...

Cheers,

http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com

Posted by: Doctor Bulldog at June 19, 2007 11:03 AM

The Joke is on the muhammadans.

Why?

Because Gaza will be what Hugh Fitzgerald has termed "a demonstration project of life under Islam."

It's better than a cartoon.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at June 19, 2007 11:04 AM

Well maybe the Israelies are laughing at these fools, alot of Americans are too! I just wish these clowns would kill more of each other. But in the end alot of innocent people will die because of this crap. And it will be America and the Israelies fault.

Posted by: AMartinez at June 19, 2007 11:07 AM

Like the sun rising in the east, it just had to happen. It's always Israel's fault.
/sarcasm

Posted by: interestinconundrum at June 19, 2007 11:12 AM

Am I missing something here? I thought we were all supposed to find great comic relief in the "love fest" that is now underway in Gaza---sponsored by some of the world's most kind and compassionate thugs. Debbie Schlussel compares it to Alien vs. Predator movies.

Should I confess my guilt also for getting a real kick out of reading that hamas thugs actually tossed some leading fatah thugs off the roof of a 15 story building?

OK--I confess.

Posted by: BB at June 19, 2007 11:19 AM

I am not holding my breath waiting for a British media boycott of these newspapers.

Boycott? More likely they will give them an award.

Posted by: Charles Martel at June 19, 2007 11:30 AM

"manipulative and conspiratorial and with hooked noses, long beards"

Gosh, sounds more like your prototypical arab "cleric" than any of the Jews that I know, at least.

Posted by: Infidel33 at June 19, 2007 11:41 AM

Now why did the Arabs have to go and do something so insensitive as publishing cartoons depicting Jews in a negative and insulting light?

I'll have to get some supplies in quick now. With all the Jews that are bound to be rioting and burning on the streets of Liverpool it's going to be a siege situation.

Posted by: Wishbone at June 19, 2007 11:57 AM

The theme for all this is: If all else fails, blame the Jews and Isreal. This is no suprise, since it is the same, same old in action in the Arab/Muslim countries.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at June 19, 2007 12:00 PM

I, for one, am "encouraging, mocking and enjoying the conflict between Hamas and Fatah".

Can't wait for Act II to begin on the West Bank. Party time!

Posted by: TheOmegaMan at June 19, 2007 12:11 PM

Infidel33, sounds like this guy before he went to nowhere land.
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2003

Posted by: interestinconundrum at June 19, 2007 12:27 PM

Try this one;
http://www.yemenistudents.org.uk/images/yassin.jpg

Posted by: interestinconundrum at June 19, 2007 12:35 PM

Guess they are touchy about their "heroes"

Posted by: interestinconundrum at June 19, 2007 12:36 PM

it is astounding that being so few the jews are so powerful.
it is also astounding that these folks in the Gaza and their cousins still believe the song and dance taught them by their ancestors.
maybe the IDF and friends ought to carry some "laughing bags" in their ammo pouches (along with ammo, of course) and toss them into crowds.
and then the pals would really get upset.
and maybe we ought to begin really raising hell every time something like this (perhaps subsidized with my tax money) appears.
but then, we would need a new president, a new sec of state, a new state department, and a few changes in the congress...
and brain surgery at reuters, cnn, the beeb, and similar place?

Posted by: velvel in decatur at June 19, 2007 12:36 PM

Jeez- and I thought that was a cartoon of Yasir Arafat, in a stolen Hebrew hat, laughing at Hamas!

(Semites should ease off on the anti-semitism.)

Posted by: profitsbeard at June 19, 2007 12:49 PM

Re Virgil Goode:

Senator Lindsey GRAHAM: I don't think that's the appropriate line for a congressman to take when it comes time for another congressman to take the oath. Why would you swear allegiance to a document outside your faith? In our legal system, people can take the oath in a variety of ways.

Religious diversity is a strength, not a weakness in this country.

end quote

One Goode Republican?

"Why would you swear allegiance to a document outside your faith? "

Doesn't that point to be true require as a foundation:

Why would you have allegiance outside your faith?

If you can't swear to allegiance outside your faith, isn't it because you don't have any?

Posted by: Old Atlantic at June 19, 2007 2:32 PM

profitsbeard writes:
"(Semites should ease off on the anti-semitism.)"

Not to be pedantic, but antisemitism referes to
Jew hatred, not some generalized distaste for
"Semites", which would be odd, since Semitic is
a designation of a class of human languages, including some Ethiopian ones, not a racial
category.

In any case, I am laughing, but I'm not Hasidic.
Faster Muslims, kill, kill...

Posted by: root_cause at June 19, 2007 2:34 PM

No surprise there...islamiofascists blaming everyone but themselves for their own actions...
...heck, just the other day Ban KOOK-ki Moon blamed the darfur muslim-killing-muslim killings, not on the real problem (themselves) but *ahem* "global warming".

Absurdity has taken a clear and unmistakable turn for the surreal.

Posted by: jcom972 at June 19, 2007 3:32 PM

root_cause-

I don't think I or anyone else here considers "anti-semitism" to mean anything but Jew-loathing (VIZ: Sartre's slim book on the subject, etc.).

But, since the semitic Arabs are just as semitically-endowed with the same semitic physical traits ....that they caricature as "Jewish", and thus "evil" and "suspect"... then turnabout is fairplay. To mock their blindness.

Are mirrors outlawed by Mohammad/Allah?

Posted by: profitsbeard at June 19, 2007 7:28 PM

Since Herr Goebbels has been mentioned:
To the inimitable Mr Fitzgerald, and all my fellow jihad-watchers –
I believe this an appropriate occasion on which to share what I believe to be the perfect epitaph for the late unlamented Yasser Arafat. The author is French sociologist and lay theologian Jacques Ellul, whom I have quoted before, concerning Islamic jihad. Ellul wrote the prefaces for Bat Ye’or’s first two books on dhimmitude.

In his book “Un Chretien Pour Israel” (A Christian Supports Israel), 1985, Ellul includes a substantial chapter entitled ‘Propaganda’, in which he deconstructs the flood of pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel propaganda, which he first began to observe and study during the 1960s. Readers should know that Ellul wrote one of the definitive textbooks on propaganda (which he despised), inspired in part by his first-hand experience on the receiving end of Nazi propaganda in Vichy France.

So, here it is, Ellul’s devastating summing-up of Yasser Arafat, first in the original French, then in my own translation:
“Et, de fait, Yasser Arafat m’est apparu comme un genie de la propagande, le plus grand depuis Goebbels. La composition du personnage, le spectaculaire de ses interventions (son arrivee a l’ONU, pistolet a la ceinture, l’entrevue avec le Pape), son caractere amical et solide, l’habilete de ses discours, la capacite a retourner une situation par des mots, l’aptitude a mobiliser autour de lui les media, l’identification de sa personne a tout le peuple palestinien (le processus tres remarquable: l’OLP, c’est Arafat; tous les Palestiniens, c’est l’OLP). Sa capacite a repeter indefiniment des contre-verites eclatantes jusqu’a ce que ses affirmations soient acceptees comme verites, les faits etant occultes par la puissance du discours…”

Translation: “AND IN FACT YASSER ARAFAT APPEARED TO ME AS A PROPAGANDA GENIUS, SECOND ONLY TO GOEBBELS [translator’s emphasis added]. The construction of the image, the spectacle of his speeches (his arrival at the UN with a revolver in [his] belt; his audience with the Pope), his amicable and ‘sturdy’ character, the cleverness of his speech, [his] capacity to turn a situation upside-down with words, [his] ability to gather the media around him, the identification of his person with all the Palestinian people (very remarkable sequence: the PLO is Arafat; all Palestinians are the PLO). His (Arafat’s) capacity to endlessly repeat shattering anti-truths until his affirmations were accepted as truth, the facts being obscured by the power of rhetoric…”.

I apologise for infelicities in the translation – perhaps Mr Fitzgerald could give us a better version?

Ellul’s character-sketch of Arafat - which might just as well be applied to a host of other Palestinian spokespeople including Mr Abbas, and their despicable enablers and fellow travellers - is preceded by this equally important paragraph in which he fingers the Palestinians as the spin-masters:

Quand je dis que c’est la propagande qui m’a amene a prendre parti, je parle de l’impressionnante propagande palestinienne et anti-israelienne. La, oui, on peut parler de propagande. D’ailleurs notons, des le debut, que c’est un des caracteres classiques de la propagande d’accuser son adversaire d’abuser de la propagande. C’est un des premiers tests. Hitler n’a cesse de clamer qu’il se bornait a dire la verite, et que c’etaient les Americains et les Anglais qui, depuis 1934, faisaient contre lui une propagande dementielle. Staline n’a cesse de declarer qu’il ne cherchait jamais a influencer l’opinion mondiale, mais que c’etaient les Etats capitalistes qui abreuvaient le monde de mensonges et d’accusations contre l’innocent regime des Soviets. Je me suis senti inonde depuis vingt ans environ par la propagande palestinienne.

Tr: When I say that it is the propaganda that led me to take sides I am talking about THE REMARKABLE PALESTINIAN AND ANTI-ISRAELI PROPAGANDA [my emphasis added]. There, yes, we can speak of propaganda. By the way, let us note at the outset that one of the classic marks of propaganda is that it accuses its adversary of abusing propaganda. That is one of the first tests.
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Hitler never stopped claiming that he confined himself to speaking the truth, and that it was the Americans and the English who, after 1934, were making a mad propaganda against him. Stalin never stopped declaring that he never sought to influence world opinion, but that it was the capitalist states, which were feeding the world with lies and accusations against the innocent Soviet regime. For around 20 years I have felt myself [being] flooded with Palestinian propaganda."

[then comes the comparison between Arafat and Goebbels which I cited above – and which accounts, perfectly, for the follies and confusion of many who dealt with Mr Arafat and with Arafat's cronies and his successors].

Ellul continues:

Quant a la relation entre propagande israelienne et propagande palestinienne, je ne prendrai qu’un seul exemple: au moment de la guerre du Liban (je veux dire de ce que l’on appelle l’invasion israelienne au Liban), j’ai compte en deux mois dix-sept placards publicitaires parus dans le Monde en faveur des Palestiniens et condamnant Israel, contre: une protestation officielle de l’ambassade d’Israel, un communiqué du C. R. I. F (mais qui en tiendra compte?) et un placard publicitaire pour Israel (emanant de l’Amitie France-Israel).
TR: As for the proportion between Israeli propaganda and Palestinian propaganda I will take just one example: at the moment of the Lebanon War (I mean to speak of what people call the Israeli invasion of Lebanon), in two months I counted 17 advertisements – on behalf of the Palestinians and condemning Israel - appearing in Le Monde. On the other side: one official protest by the Israeli ambassador, one communiqué by the C. R. I. F (but who would take [any] notice of that?), and one advertisement on behalf of Israel (coming from the France-Israel Friendship Society).

Ce n’est qu’un exemple non demonstratif, mais je le donne parce qu’il correspond a peu pres a la realite globale du poids de l’une et de l’autre propagande, dans la documentation assez considerable que j’ai accumulee depuis qu j’ai “senti” se developper la un phenomene de propagande exceptionnel.
TR: This is only one example, not decisive, but I give it because it corresponds fairly closely to the overall reality of the [relative] weight of the one and of the other propaganda, in the pretty considerable documentation that I have gathered since I “became aware” that an exceptional phenomenon of propaganda was unfolding itself.”

A little later, Ellul adds:
Or, j’ai travaille pendant presque vingt ans pour analyser les formes, les techniques, les effets, les caracteres, les facteurs de la propagande. Et quand j’en parle, ce n’est pas tout a fait en sentimental, ignorantin. J’ai pu appliquer presque tous les criteres de la propagande scientifique a cette propagande palestinienne, et anti-israelienne. Lorsque j’ai vu et pour moi demonte le fait, alors j’ai pris parti plus decisivement pour Israel, car si celui-ci est tres fort pour organiser une armee ou un service de renseignements, produire sur le plan technique ou economique, il est nul au plan de la propagande.
TR: Now, for almost twenty years [i.e. since the 1960s] I have laboured to analyse the forms, the techniques, the effects, the characteristics, the factors of Propaganda. And when I talk about propaganda I do not do so as a sentimental and ignorant person. I have been able to apply almost all the criteria of scientific propaganda to this Palestinian, anti-Israel propaganda. After I had seen the thing and deconstructed it for myself, then I took sides more decisively for Israel; for although Israel is very good at organising an army or an intelligence service, [or at] production on a technical or an economic level, he is nothing on the level of propaganda ."

Et je sais tout le mal qu’une propagande peut faire, et qu’elle etablit un monde faux, purement fictive, mais qui est tenu par l’opinion, par les journalistes et par les intellectuals eux-memes (mais ne sait-on pas que les intellectuals sont plus sensibles que les autres, quand ils n’ont pas demonte le mecanisme?) pour la Verite.
C’est un monde purement spectaculaire, mais c’est celui-la qui est dans notre société tenu pour le bon, comme dans les visions du Loup des Steppes. Des lors, a cause de cette propagande palestinienne, j’ai pris parti contre!'

TR: And I know all the evil that a propaganda [campaign] is able to do; that it establishes a world which is false, purely fictional, but which is held to be the Truth by opinion, by the journalists and by the intellectuals themselves (but don’t we know that intellectuals are more susceptible than others, unless they have deconstructed the mechanism?).
It is a world purely of appearance , but it is that [world of illusion] which in our society is accepted as the good, as in the visions of the Wolf of the Steppes. THEREFORE, BECAUSE OF THIS PALESTINIAN PROPAGANDA, I TOOK SIDES AGAINST IT!”[my emphasis added].

I apologise for the length of the posting but I think Ellul’s words need to be heard, in English.

We hear constantly, nowadays, various versions of the silly thesis that the West, especially America, is a victim of devious all-pervasive Zionist/ Israel-lobby propaganda. It is therefore worth knowing that one of the foremost 20th century anatomists of propaganda – and a French left-leaning intellectual, at that! - should give it as his expert opinion that on the one hand, Israel is useless at propaganda, and that on the other, the pro-Palestinian rhetoric with which we are all so wearily familiar, is a classic, indeed a textbook case of propaganda at its vilest (that is, at its cleverest).

"Second only to Goebbels" - I can think of no better dismissal of Mr Arafat. I hope his 'peace prize' finishes up at the garbage tip.

(I originally tried to post this in regard to the theft of the Peace Prize but Typekey wouldn't let me).

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at June 20, 2007 6:07 PM