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Will the Sunnis and Shi'ites bury the hatchet after all, just as Condoleeza Rice has urged them to? Is a Saudi/Iran accord what she had in mind? Does she really think such a thing would be good for the United States?
"Enemies of Islam unhappy with growing Iran-Saudi ties: envoy," from IRNA (thanks to James):
Iran's Ambassador to Saudi Arabia Mohammad Hosseini said on Tuesday that enemies of Islam are not happy with growing trend of bilateral ties between the two countries.Hosseini was speaking in a meeting with Saudi Interior Minister Prince Nayif bin Abdul-Aziz as he pointed to conspiracies hatched by enemies.
"There are hands at work to inculcate wrong and incorrect news to distress minds of regional states about the Islamic Republic of Iran.
"Unfortunately, certain countries accept and spread such news.
We should act wisely vis-a-vis such plots," he said.
He added Iran and Saudi Arabia have enjoyed growing ties during recent months, saying, "The two countries have enormous cultural and historical potentials and commonalties which can lead to establishment of tranquility and strengthening of the Islamic world."
Hosseini stated that a recent visit by the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Riyadh opened a new chapter in mutual relations, stressing, "Continued Iran-Saudi ties will be in the best interest of the Islamic world."
The envoy pointed to misbehavior of a minor group in Saudi Arabia towards Iranian pilgrims and called on Saudi officials to take a severe action against such moves.
He also called on the Saudi interior minister to prevent publication of books which insult Shiism.
Posted by Robert at June 20, 2007 12:47 PM
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Sounds like a match made in hell. Good luck with that short-lived marriage.
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at June 20, 2007 1:07 PM
Iran is such a poustaki country! Nobody is falling for the bullshit of those Rafadite dogs. They can't see beyond the fog of their own psychotic paranoia.
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at June 20, 2007 1:21 PM
The thought of either of these nations of bearded cavemen wielding world superpower (or together as on house) is as revolting as the mental image of a Saudi in full pre-history regalia driving a Cadillac.
at June 20, 2007 1:21 PM
"The two countries have enormous cultural and historical potentials and commonalties which can lead to establishment of tranquility and strengthening of the Islamic world."
...while blowing our worlds up. then after we are out of their hair, or converted then they can continue their centuries old squabbles. Their murderers have to do something to keep themselves busy and out of the Saudi's hair.
Posted by: R_not at June 20, 2007 1:27 PM
Simply another one of those actions which will allow us to relive history more amd more accurately. I'm certain Sir Winston Churchill is spinning in his grave these days...
Posted by: livefreeordie! at June 20, 2007 1:28 PM
If we remembered the art of Propaganda as well as these slime we would be far better off. " The enemies of Islam " Translation : Islam is the enemy of all things non islamic! if you ever saw WWII propaganda posters it would be obvious how far we have fallen. we don't even know how to raly our own people to our own cause anymore, even when they destroy our buildings and threaten us with annihilation daily. what has become of us and our ability to believe in our own righteousness? they have learned a lot and we have forgotten everything.
Posted by: MoBlows at June 20, 2007 1:38 PM
The bottom line is that the Shiites and Sunnis are more natural allies of each other, than they are of infidels like us
We forget that at our peril
Both Iran and Saudi see the downside of a Shiite/Sunni conflict in the Middle East.
Posted by: PapaBear at June 20, 2007 1:40 PM
Will the Sunnis and Shi'ites bury the hatchet after all?
God help us if they do.
If the Iranians and Saudis work as one, the West will be in unparalleled trouble. Fortunately it is not likely. At Foreign Minster level they can smile all round. But on the ground, the Saudis are deeply worried about growing Iranian influence. Al Queda might save the day for us (how ironical) by killing more Shia.
at June 20, 2007 1:44 PM
Will the Sunnis and Shi'ites bury the hatchet after all?
God help us if they do.
If the Iranians and Saudis work as one, the West will be in unparalleled trouble. Fortunately it is not likely. At Foreign Minster level they can smile all round. But on the ground, the Saudis are deeply worried about growing Iranian influence. Al Queda might save the day for us (how ironical) by killing more Shia.
at June 20, 2007 1:45 PM
UK Infidel Lover, then tell me why Iran is funding some sunni organizations in the Palestinian sty?
do some searches on the web. Here is one little article: http://www.twq.com/07winter/docs/07winter_fuller.pdf
There are others. It seems that they take the 'the enemy of our enemy is our friend' which probably makes both the shiite and sunni want to gag, but they will unite to go against us - their common enemy. And when all is done with us, they will go back to their squabbling, for muslims do not know what peace is so how can they think they will be ok with it if it did happen in their terms? And you can't breed murdering thugs without it coming back on you. They will look inward and not be totally happy with only killing women because any of them can kill women now if they just label it an 'honor killing'.
Posted by: R_not at June 20, 2007 2:03 PM
I'm ok with them having good relations and ties. in fact i hope the entire Mulsim world comes together and erases all the lines of distiction between them , the percieved good and the bad ones and all.
It's these distinctions that have us chasing our tails and have us confused about who is the enemy. once they all unite the answer will be very clear. like it always should have been.
Posted by: MoBlows at June 20, 2007 2:03 PM
R_Not:
UK Infidel Lover, then tell me why Iran is funding some sunni organizations in the Palestinian sty?
There are others. It seems that they take the 'the enemy of our enemy is our friend' which probably makes both the shiite and sunni want to gag, but they will unite to go against us - their common enemy.
Answering in reverse:
Yes very true. There is some Middle East proverb which says brother against brother but brother and brother against cousin. So that means Sunni and Shia will fight but unite against Isreal & Infidels.
There is military sense in this.
It is easier to unite with a group that is not your friends at all to defeat a deeper enemy and then afterwards once defeated, start a follow on war against the rival group. The Palestinians represent an Arab group that larger groups wish to win as "Sunni" or "Shia". Winning their loyalty by supporting their fight against Israel.
Islam is not above temporary alliances to win some minor objective. But it is temporary. As soon as the minor objective is won, allies may become enemies just like that. It is alll strategy with a long term major objective in mind. The West must always keep this in mind.
at June 20, 2007 2:32 PM
I, for one, believe that the more these degenerate clowns get to know one another, the more they will hate each other, and the sooner they will get around to killing each other. Is the mahometan way.
Posted by: Infidel33 at June 20, 2007 2:37 PM
It was just last week when Iran said that if Iran is attacked by the U.S. they will launch everything they have at ALL of their neighbors...that includes Saudi Arabia.
And it was the Pres. of Iran that visited Saudi Arabia recently and got so pissed off in meetings that he cancelled his stay and went home without spending one night there.
So, this is the type of healthy relationship that makes the West trimble with fear.
Saudi Arabia needs to reconsider that they will be the landing zone for many incoming missiles from Iran.
at June 20, 2007 3:44 PM
German proverb: Pack schlägt sich, Pack verträgt sich.
Lowlifes beat each other, Lowlifes get along.
Posted by: Allahfanculo at June 20, 2007 4:55 PM
Will they bury the hatchet?
Hell no. Maybe temporarily, but not for long.
Posted by: PRCalDude at June 20, 2007 5:25 PM
Robert said
Will the Sunnis and Shi'ites bury the hatchet after all, just as Condoleeza Rice has urged them to?
Good point. Do our leaders think through the implications of what their goals are:
They wanted democracy in "Palestine". So, the "Palestinians" voted for Hamas.
They wanted to support the shaky Musharraf regime in Pakistan, and now OBL has set up shop there.
They wanted to get rid of Saddam Hussein, who was killing many Muslims in his own country and others. Now, we see the results for Muslims in Iraq and much more importantly, for U.S. soldiers in Iraq.
Now they want Sunnis and Shi'ites to come together and work for their common aims, not thinking about what those aims may be, and what impact that would have on the infidels.
Is it that they still have no rudimentary idea of Islamic ideology, or are they are hopelessly optimistic, or are they incompetent, or do they have agendas that are not necessarily shared by the U.S. public? Or all of the above?
Posted by: special_guest at June 20, 2007 5:37 PM
No way in hell will this ever work out. The Saudis and Iranians are just buying time for their own jihadi dreams.
This love fest is nothing but for show. To allow both sides to say "see we are the real muslims". Deep down they hate each others guts. Also let me remind my fellow Americans and Westerners that we also have all sorts of "deals and pacts" with the Arabians too. Does that make the U.S. and Saudia Arabia real friends? Hell no! Deep down they hate my guts and in truth most Americans are not fond of their Arabian "friends" either. The only thing that keeps us in this fake relationship is oil. Thats it...
The Soviets and Nazis signed a non-aggression pact during WWII also...
How long did that last? Not long.
Posted by: greatcometof1577 at June 20, 2007 6:02 PM
Will the Sunnis and Shi'ites bury the hatchet after all?
Not likely. Too many Sunnis still believe the Shiites are "not real Muslims". How do they give that up and say all Muslims are brothers? They lose their sense of superiority vis a vis the Shiites.
The Iranians appear to be the practical ones here, following the path of all Muslims against the rest. Once Tehran has accomplished its aim, the Saudis will die never knowing what hit them.
Posted by: PMK at June 20, 2007 7:09 PM
greatcomet,
Our pact with Arabia was never between the people. It was always between the elites. Contrast that with the Brits, with whom we fought side by side on more than one occasion.
If it were a true friendship then people working the oil fields would have been welcome in the kingdom. The troops defending against Saddam immediately after he took Kuwait would not have had to stay out in the desert away from their Muslim "friends".
Posted by: PMK at June 20, 2007 7:15 PM
Is it that they still have no rudimentary idea of Islamic ideology, or are they are hopelessly optimistic, or are they incompetent, or do they have agendas that are not necessarily shared by the U.S. public? Or all of the above?
Posted by: special_guest
Unfortanely I think it is a little bit of all.
Posted by: screaming_eagle at June 20, 2007 10:11 PM
I also thinking that kicking ass in Afganhstan in 01 lead to alot of hopelessly optimistic thinking for alot of people. I myself wasn't as even informed about Muslims then as I am now. We took over a country in weeks that Russia COULDN'T IN TEN YEARS. How could that not lead to optimism?
Posted by: screaming_eagle at June 20, 2007 10:19 PM
PMK
I agree with that..
However...the title says...
"Iranian ambassador to Saudi Arabia: Enemies of Islam unhappy with growing Iran-Saudi ties"
I am more unhappy about U.S. ties with Saudi Arabia then any fantasy the Iranian ambassador to Saudi Arabia wants to put forth.
Posted by: greatcometof1577 at June 20, 2007 11:46 PM
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