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Far opposite to the protests known to the West, which are usually organized to promote peace, equality, and justice. What has the world come to?
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at June 22, 2007 1:50 PM
Where are several hundred soccer-hooligan type British infidels standing face to face with these Satanists and telling them to get the f-ck back to the shitholes they slithered out of?
No there yet?
Curious.
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at June 22, 2007 1:54 PM
...with Muslim reaction like this, Sir Rushdies words in his book must be true.....
Posted by: exsgtbrown at June 22, 2007 1:55 PM
Good to see the barbarian Islamists utilizing their right to free speech and freedom of assembly. It's just sad to see they are protesting because of someone else exercising those same freedoms. I'm sure the irony never crosses their pea-sized brains.
Posted by: Shoeless Joe at June 22, 2007 1:57 PM
Living in the UK has been good for these guys. They spell better than their counterparts in Pakistan.
Posted by: Bigfoot at June 22, 2007 2:01 PM
"Far opposite to the protests known to the West, which are usually organized to promote peace, equality, and justice. What has the world come to?"
That's easy! Allah's Magic Kingdom!
Posted by: Gnosis at June 22, 2007 2:11 PM
"Far opposite to the protests known to the West, which are usually organized to promote peace, equality, and justice. What has the world come to?"
That's easy! Allah's Magic Kingdom!
Posted by: Gnosis at June 22, 2007 2:11 PM
"Hatred uttered from the tongue, but what they have in their hearts is far worse"
Truer words were never spoken.....about Muslims.
at June 22, 2007 2:12 PM
Assalamau Laikum all,
I have been busy today ...and my..it looks like I missed out on all the fatwa "fun".
Interestingly, even wuslims now know about Rushdie. I agree with many here that MOST muslims will not even have known what the satanic versus is all about.
Rage boy only knows that somebody has said something nasty about Muhd PBUH..and off he goes....perhaps he will make a visit to his relatives in the Amerike or the UK....look out for this celebrity at the airport....best candidate for your "big brother" shows in the West...LOL
Seriously though you have to keep this in perspective....a handful of muslims on Friday after prayers (after being told of the satanic versus by the local imam) out of the billion and half....it's not nice...but these peoples will learn slowly...they simply need a few years.
Personally, I would like for some wuslims in the West to take the lead...sure protest but in a peaceful manner...to show the kaffur that they are unhappy but not destructively so.
Peoples remember...given time we all will be immersed in Islam....
Every kaffur has the right to islam
All we have to do is to make it right NOT deny it.
Posted by: Naseem at June 22, 2007 2:12 PM
They are not necessarily barbarians; it is important to understand what their mentality is. Their belief system says that the Koran is literally truth and the word of God (Allah). If this is true, then they are acting logically and ethically. I don't agree with their basic premise - I think the Koran is just a hodge-podge of various writers, some stolen from other religions, etc.
But the question is, if we are starting from such opposite view points, what is to be done? Other than name calling, smirking, us-vs-them chest thumping, and other useless gestures, what do JW readers suggest we do in the real world?
Posted by: ReligionofPeas at June 22, 2007 2:14 PM
...with Muslim reaction like this, Sir Rushdies words in his book must be true.....
Posted by: exsgtbrown
True. They make me want to reread the Satanic Verses. I wasn't impressed with it the first time but maybe now, with a greater understanding of Islam, it might sink in.
Posted by: PMK at June 22, 2007 2:18 PM
Where are several hundred soccer-hooligan type British infidels standing face to face with these Satanists and telling them to get back to the )))they slithered out of?
No there yet?
Curious.
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2
Excellent idea and something I would LOVE to see on the news! Guess football is more important to those 'manly types' than someone dissing their Queen or their country? -sigh-
I'd even settle for the BNP!
Posted by: The Goobs at June 22, 2007 2:21 PM
"it's not nice...but these peoples will learn slowly...they simply need a few years."
posted by Naseem
And how many innocent people have to die in the meantime?
No one's denying you your right to Islam.
You are denying us our right to reject Islam.
Leave it to God to judge me and my faith. It's none of your business.
Posted by: PMK at June 22, 2007 2:22 PM
what do JW readers suggest we do in the real world?
-from above post
Educate!
Educate!
Educate!
The truth shall set you free!
Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at June 22, 2007 2:23 PM
I really didn't like the Verses. Too abstract. The section about Muhammad is basically copied from the early Muslim sources with the addition of a rival poet named Baal(?), it was kind of funny but most of the book is incomprehensible. I think there's also a chapter that is an allegory of Khomeini's revolution.
Posted by: Belisarios at June 22, 2007 2:30 PM
Apparently NoSee skipped this part:
Pakistani traders' association offers 10 million rupees for beheading of Salman Rushdie
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017057.php#comments
at June 22, 2007 2:32 PM
realigionofpeas-
Nice attempt at making nice-nice. "Oh dear, what can we do? If that's what they believe..."
Consequences, my dear, consequences. Cut THEM off from us - Islamic is parasitical in EVERY sense of the word. Feeding on our freedom, our oil money, our inventions our medicine and above all our better natures. Giving NOTHING in return.
at June 22, 2007 2:33 PM
All this shows me is how dangerous muslim clerics are to peace. This is where these knotheads are getting this rage.
Posted by: R_not at June 22, 2007 2:39 PM
But the question is, if we are starting from such opposite view points, what is to be done? Other than name calling, smirking, us-vs-them chest thumping, and other useless gestures, what do JW readers suggest we do in the real world?
Posted by: ReligionofPeas
As to what to do: establish a bright yellow line. Cross that line and Islamdom will be attacked. They need to understand: we couldn't care less about their religion. It's theirs. They can have their koran and they can kiss their kaaba. They can even keep Mecca. Sure it would be a nice place to visit, but most of us will get along without it.
The Islamic mentality is what makes them barbarians. They believe that anyone who does not believe as they do is unfit to live as an equal with them. They see nothing wrong with destroying the artifacts of older cultures because they are not in accord with their own precepts. They are not averse to wiping out entire communities in retaliation for a non-violent offense. THAT makes them barbaric.
If they don't like what the Queen of England does they can boycott England. They can refuse to trade with English-speaking nations. They cannot make threats against the government of England or any other non-Muslim state just because someone they don't like was honored. Their reaction to this knighthood is what makes them barbarians. That they would even think of killing anyone in retaliation is barbaric, just as Khomeini's reaction to "The Satanic Verses" was barbaric. Their MENTALITY is barbaric. It is still seventh century.
Posted by: PMK at June 22, 2007 2:40 PM
Hope they persist in slagging the queen,this will wake up quite a few eyes
Some very weird news has just come in
Britain's first Muslim MP is being hounded out of office by death threats, linked to a racist gang
http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2007/06/some-very-good-news.html
Posted by: shiva at June 22, 2007 2:40 PM
Britain's first Muslim MP is being hounded out of office by death threats, linked to a racist gang
shiva,
I think you answered Ynkedoodl2's question.
Posted by: PMK at June 22, 2007 2:45 PM
shiva, a very interesting article! Thanks.
Posted by: R_not at June 22, 2007 2:47 PM
Britain's first Muslim MP is being hounded out of office by death threats, linked to a racist gang
shiva,
Turns out he is being threatened by Pakistani gangs for getting killers extradited from Pakistan to stand trial in England.
They are going to make him pay for upholding the rule of law. Nice Muslims, aren't they?
Posted by: PMK at June 22, 2007 2:48 PM
On the 4 articles involving pics of angry Muslims, I posted a link to pics of the Quran and what you could do with it.
They were all deleted. Why?
Fear of Free Speech?
Dhimmi attitude?
Your site and you are within your right to delete anything you want, but I am disappointed.
Posted by: FLLegal at June 22, 2007 2:52 PM
'God curse the Queen'....ummm...isn't that an arrestable offence? Treason. Are the police that emasculated?
Posted by: johndoe at June 22, 2007 2:58 PM
Naseem: "Seriously though you have to keep this in perspective....a handful of muslims on Friday after prayers (after being told of the satanic versus by the local imam) out of the billion and half....it's not nice...but these peoples will learn slowly...they simply need a few years."
Naseem - apparently you don't realize that your several years of supremacist rantings at this site have probably done far more damage to the cause of Islam than this little incident of "Rage Boy". (But then its entirely possible that being Pakistani, you've both been exposed to the same lead levels and probably both suffer from the same intellectual defects due to genetic inbreeding).
But hey - keep it up anyway! It's all good for our side, if you know what I mean!
Posted by: Caroline at June 22, 2007 3:01 PM
o for gods sake, can't we run Rushdie for Congress here in the US? we need an offset to that Ellison chap
Posted by: CaptainGrevious at June 22, 2007 3:06 PM
Naseem --
You stated, "Every kaffur has the right to islam."
Islam has {{{{ZERO}}}} appeal to those of us with any common sense, Naseem. Zero!!! And I find it amusing that you're pandering your false god on this particular thread.
No thanks!
at June 22, 2007 3:06 PM
champ, it is why they breed murderers because the biggest way that they get new converts is by the sword.
Of course, that isn't counting their uncontrolled birth rates.
Posted by: R_not at June 22, 2007 3:14 PM
A bunch of loyal Subjects, ready to defend the greatness of Britain. Real assets in the global economy.
China handles its malcontents by enslaving them or forcing them into menial jobs with little pay, a very efficient system. People who rebel are shot in sports stadiums on weekends.
The West feels the obligation to empower our malcontents, feed them, house them, and give them free medical care, a very inefficient system. And we are getting our clocks cleaned.
The history of mankind seems to indicate that human nature changes when the resources begin to run out. Nice sign Ahmed, let the good times roll.
at June 22, 2007 3:14 PM
Naseem:
As to Islam...
This "kafir" is:
An Avowed enemy.
Supporter of the deportation of all Muslims from Western lands.
One who has read & views the Quran as a book inspired by Satan.
One who will never bend his knee to the false "god" "Allah of the Quran".
One who would rather be dead...a true martyr, than either convert to the barbaric faith of Islam or pay a tax and subjugated to the "religion of peace" with a sword in its hand.
One who sees the "prophet" Mohammad as a FALSE prophet, a pedophile, a warmongering illiterate, and one not knowing the TRUE GOD and is in hell right now.
So no thanks for the opportunity. I've seen the vile Islam spews. I've seen the evil of Islam.
I know the TRUE GOD and it's not "Allah".
Posted by: FLLegal at June 22, 2007 3:15 PM
Love the photo of the guy burning the English (Cross of St. George) flag. Looks like Speakers Corner. Surprised that the guyes and girls from the Metropolitan Police allow open burning in Hyde Park. Someone could get hurt. As ever, the islamic side looks like a real fun bunch. Burn, baby burn!
Posted by: MP at June 22, 2007 3:16 PM
Naseem, I don't believe in God so Islam is a bit of a non-starter for a stinking kafir like me , innit?
A small point addressed to everyone else: cursing the Queen for Sir Salman Rushdie's knighthood is very silly. It makes about as much sense as blaming Alfred Nobel for awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to Yasser Arafat (Nobel died in 1896).
Posted by: A Nonny Nonny at June 22, 2007 3:22 PM
Interesting that it’s the Cross of St George (the English flag) that is apparently being burned, and not the Union Flag (the British flag). Wrong target, boys – Rushdie was knighted by the monarch of Great Britain. But as an Englishman, I’m glad that they recognize the true enemy. As I’ve said before, these people can call themselves “British” (in the sense of having a British passport), but never English
Posted by: JFGR at June 22, 2007 3:29 PM
champ, it is why they breed murderers because the biggest way that they get new converts is by the sword.....right you are!! And they do it through LYING too!!
"May God Curse The Queen"
The One True God is not hearing this request....
but I'm sure that allah would be more than happy to fulfill your evil wishes were he able to fulfill them.
Must be frustrating being allah, considering the fact that he's powerless to do anything on his own. The only power he has is through his jihad-junkie-followers; he counts on them to carry out his dirty work.
at June 22, 2007 3:38 PM
I see the tub-thumper-in-chief is the thoroughly evil Anjem Choudhury, lawyer-cum-Jihadist. Nice.
Posted by: Un:dhimmi at June 22, 2007 3:43 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how Britain continues to allow these insurrectionists to openly operate in their country, people who openly preach violence, state they wish to replace Civil Law with Sharia, and openly violate laws against wearing masks at protests.
I can't help but find it ironic that these fascist scum are protesting against the British monarch (which i completely detest bc of their occupation of Ireland btw)....do they not know that Charles (the next King of England) wishes to submit to Islam???
at June 22, 2007 3:59 PM
hope this continues and these a.. holes stay busy yelling, screaming, burning flags, kicking their wives when they return home, destroying their economy etc. keep it up for the sake of muhammed who is having a ball with 64 virgins while allah is watching it.
Posted by: swimmer at June 22, 2007 4:05 PM
I wonder if the romans, as they watched the germanic hordes coming over the 7th hill, realized that this was truly the end of their empire.
I wonder if the western world will notice that the islamic hordes are waiting at our 7th hill.
Punish intolerance. This means: punish islam.
Send the hordes back where they came from.
at June 22, 2007 4:05 PM
I'd never had much interest in the British royals, till just now.
The Queen is all right.
Posted by: joeblough at June 22, 2007 4:17 PM
Just thought I'd let you all guys not living in the UK know that there seems to be a complete blanket on the news of these demonstartions in the UK media here.
Not a peep.
No mention of demonstartions in London, pakistan or Kashmir. May have been a sentence or two, but I've certainly not seen any video clips on TV.
So this is how the government wants to play it. Keep the people in the dark about the goings on with the introduction of EU constitution and now this.
I swear, one day I'll wake up and the whole country will be muslim.
Posted by: Hermit at June 22, 2007 4:19 PM
Ynkedoodl2
most "football hooligans" are not political animals so are not intersted in this. plus you have a left wing media which chose to ignore this demonstration. british nationalists on the other hand are rather pleased that muslims are standing up and shouting down our queen etc, in a few years we will be left with the reins of power and these muslims will be asked to politely leave our lands. then quietly we will get back with our lives.
only the most stupid and ignorant will try and shout the muslim protestors down, it would simply give the left wing more ammo to try and prosecute british nationalists and demonise us in the left wing press.
we are more civilised than they.
Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at June 22, 2007 4:33 PM
If intended as such, the Rushdie knighthood was a great way to produce a demonstration about Islam, to help awaken some more of Britain's population.
Perhaps the queen did this knowing it would bring their wrath down specifically upon herself (a predictable result). Because a sharp demonstration needed to be made to Chuck, the future king, of the tensions from his doubtful loyalties. His own mother receiving death threats highlights the question "Which side are you on, boy?" I'm just speculating. But regardless, it does put some pressure on his fence sitting. His butt must be getting sore.
Posted by: WestwardHo at June 22, 2007 4:40 PM
Hermit...that's why I get my new's from the internet.
The local rag is good for local raggedness, but little else.
It will be the internet that deliver's the fatal blow's to Islam; as long as it stay's free and more or less unemcumbered.
If I want to read about our local liberal's having yet another demonstration on our one and only overpass, I will read our paper. If I want to know about jihad, I will come here. Otherwuse, the MSM is just about useless, unless you are looking for a used car...
at June 22, 2007 4:43 PM
No marchers here today...what a disappointment.
I don't think the Islamic hoards are waiting at the 7th hill- they're well inside the gate in most places. We (our western gov't) won't wake up and take the needed actions until they've stabbed us in the back and hurt us very badly.
War is coming folks. Pray, plan, and prepare for yourselves and your families.
Posted by: livefreeordie! at June 22, 2007 4:47 PM
Hermit
I'll second that. Very, very little reported about it here. Absolutely zip also, about the so-called 'British Oppression' demo a week ago. I think the media and government are beginning to get the message.
The normally passive British people will turn. I think it will be soon, too.
Go to news.google.co.uk and enter 'rushdie london' into the search field. Currently the first-page results are as follows:
Pravda (Russia)
News 24 (South Africa)
News Channel 7, SC USA
Truthdig, US (sounds like a truther site!)
Times Of India
B92 (Serbia, excellent site)
Radio Free Europe (US)
Dailyindia.com (India)
The News (Pakistan)
Money News (India)
Not one British news organisation.
Posted by: Un:dhimmi at June 22, 2007 4:47 PM
I'm impressed that these demonstrators are so outraged by what they perceive as hatred and intolerance towards their religion. They sincerely feel persecuted.
Let's remember that the Nazis sucessfully sold the German people on the idea that they were victims of Jewish conspiracies and persecution, an absurd notion when you consider that Jews were a tiny percent of Germany's population. They also convinced Germans that the Czechs were persecuting their German minority, and propaganda films were produced to that effect, leading up to the invasion of Poland and Czechoslovakia.
The idea is to create an atmosphere of fear and loathing, necessary to inspire ruthlessness and agression in one's followers. Didn't Muhammed do that as a means of expanding his empire? In "The Truth About Muhammed", Robert Spencer describes how Muhammed cloaked aggressive Jihad behind the veil of defense of Islam.
at June 22, 2007 4:54 PM
OT,but am pleased to report an unexpected finding in this months "Travel and Leisure" magazine. There was an article applauding Qatar as the new progressive emirate out there to rival UAE. Imagine my surprise and delight to turn and see someone's attempt to squash some historical revisionism. The author was attempting to credit "traditionally islamic" architecture with inovations such as "archways,domes and fountains." There inserted in bold ink beside the text were written the words: "Co-opted from the Byzantines,Rome and Greece." And in a Barnes and Noble no less! A most delightfully refreshing counter to revisionism.
Posted by: kafir world at June 22, 2007 5:17 PM
Well this is what the world gets for bending over backwards to appease retards! That’s right retards, anyone, I dare you to find one thing in the last 10 no 100 no 1000 years that they have given to the world that doesn’t involve killing, screwing or stealing. You might ask, do I think this is some kind of freak show? Why yes, I do.
Posted by: tgusa at June 22, 2007 5:19 PM
I have heard that the UK press is censoring this news of the muslims behaving poorly after Rushdie got his knighthood.
Now, on one hand that might be good because once these goons realize the cameras are on - they behave even more poorly. But, on the other hand the Brits go on with life as usual with their heads up their behinds.
I personally don't like censorship and the more left slanted news does like to do that, and the BBC is very left slanted. I don't know what other TV news they have in the British Isles, or what newspapers they have, but it bothers me that the left censors.
Posted by: R_not at June 22, 2007 5:40 PM
Note that the Pakistani protesters advocate death. The Muslim protesters don't appear to be advocating death/violence...(perhaps that is because previous protesters in Britain who wore provocative t-shirts or held signs advocating death, etc., were arrested).
Also, Yankidoodle -- are you not aware of the "asian" riots that have occurred in Britain?? (I don't think provocations are appropriate on either side.)
(Europe does tend to be violent -- just because these stories (about the riots, etc) get buried on the back pages of the MSM doesn't mean they haven't occurred.)
Anyway, the "problem" is when violence does occur...or when Muslims believe that through violence they can attain their ends...(I was just reading "Legacy of Jihad" and there's an observation that Islam's intent is to stifle all dissent -- the ideal world in Islam is one of abject uniformity, devoid of individuality. I'll have to look up the quote.)
Posted by: J.S. at June 22, 2007 5:44 PM
correction: "The Muslim protesters don't appear to be advocating death/violence" should read: "The Muslim protesters in Britain don't appear to be advocating death/violence"
Posted by: J.S. at June 22, 2007 5:49 PM
I wonder if the romans, as they watched the germanic hordes coming over the 7th hill, realized that this was truly the end of their empire.Posted by: bonncaruso
I've noticed. I like to write that I have an idea what it must have been like during the fall of the Roman Empire.
Bread = nanny gov't
Circuses = Paris Hilton and soddy totties in UK and US
The first great migration ( Vandals and the rest of the hordes) = da Muslims and da Mexicans
Same story - different date.
Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at June 22, 2007 5:52 PM
HAHAHAHA....Naseem you can keep polishing a turd but it will still be a turd.
(the hint is Islam is a pile of turds)
I understand though that without your male masters you can't understand and have no one to remind you,so me a male and an infedel will remind you.
Keep polishing Naseem.
Also for the record the people around the world just got a whif AGAIN of what you are trying to polish.
You are funny though!Nice try.
Posted by: Dar al-harb at June 22, 2007 5:54 PM
islam is a slam to the human race. Do you think we can have a public sir Rushdie day, a castrate the O.binner day,(newly sworded) an, I just wanted to take off this huge tent and take a deep breath of fresh air day? Or will the Bobbies come at us like green on grass? Stop Westernophobia.
Posted by: mustang65 at June 22, 2007 5:55 PM
The poison of Islam oozes from sores made by those who cast the light of Truth on its faux membrane and out pops the most rabid monsters such displayed in these photos.
The burning red cross reminds me of my ancestoral Crusaders from which I occassionally nourish my spirirt and read about their brave actions against
the demons such as these.
The Portugese flag contains in its center five castles that were won back from the Muslims during the Crusades. As the Islamist scream the words of war, so must we sharpen the swords of our our heritage. In this Osama bin Ladin is correct. This is a war. God save the Queen!
Posted by: Briars at June 22, 2007 5:59 PM
No need J.S we know already what islam is and what they believe and what thier intentions are,you are preaching to the choir.
Posted by: Dar al-harb at June 22, 2007 6:00 PM
One may have any view of Rushdie as a writer, but what is good about this knighthood to him is that it further exposes the disconnect between "British" and "Muslims".
at June 22, 2007 6:12 PM
Someone should burn a black flag with a cresent moon on it. Then play hide and seek. The spawn of mo fo would be so confused and enraged, thay'd start killing each other. Benny Hill theme song please.
Posted by: mustang65 at June 22, 2007 6:15 PM
"Every kaffur has the right to islam"
no thanks, naseem - especially if this is a representative sample of what the men look like
Posted by: kelisw at June 22, 2007 6:19 PM
Ynkedoodl2 is right when he/she says:-
Where are several hundred soccer-hooligan type British infidels standing face to face with these Satanists and telling them to get the f-ck back to the shitholes they slithered out of?
Yes, indeed: where are they? Why don't they confront these Paki pestilence? If these Pakis love the religion created by their pedophilic prophat Mohammad, why don't they go back to Pakiland? It is high time someone spoke to them the only language they seem to know how to speak: an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.
In the olden days there used to be boverboot wearing skinheads inspired by National Front (now BNP). Bring them back from wherever they are.
Magus Incognito
Posted by: Magus Incognito at June 22, 2007 6:24 PM
Barbarians. Utter and complete Barbarians.
God has already cursed Islam, and I don't mean "Allah," the Arabian pagan Moon god.
There is no "Allah." Can't you tell by the way "his" people behave? No true "God" allows His people to behave in such evil ways. Satan does, however.
Posted by: darcy at June 22, 2007 6:25 PM
Everyone - Go out and buy "The Satanic Verses" tomorrow. Let's get that book sales up right now!
I will be doing that at my nearby Barnes & Noble.
Posted by: darcy at June 22, 2007 6:32 PM
Now it is reported that Muslims are by and large illiterate. And the ones that are'nt, are not well read.
Looking at the worldwide protests by Muslims and the claim that 1.5bn Muslims are offended by Rushdie's "Satanic verses", it is clear that both the above suppositions are wrong. It is manifest that the 1.5bn(?) Muslims are not just literate but widely read as well, and have strong opinions on works of literature.
Posted by: DP111 at June 22, 2007 6:35 PM
“I don't know what other TV news they have in the British Isles, or what newspapers they have,”
So you know nothing about Britain, but your ignorance doesn’t stop you saying “the Brits go on with life as usual with their heads up their behinds.” Ignorance is bliss.
at June 22, 2007 6:36 PM
JS posted: "The Muslim protesters in Britain don't appear to be advocating death/violence"
That is because they have learnt that advocating violence was not good publicity. In any case that part ie fatwa, violence etc can be left to their brothers in the Muslim world.
at June 22, 2007 6:40 PM
Islam - the Religion of Hate.
How 'bout a "fatwa" on Islam? Sounds good?!
Posted by: darcy at June 22, 2007 6:52 PM
One can only hope that when a suicide bomber kills Rushdie and the Queen at the knighting ceremony, the sane world wakes from its multiculti dream and sees Mohammedism for the ancient terror cult that it is. (At least if you follow the "perfect and eternal and undoubtable" Koran literally.)
Not that I wish harm to Salman or Elizabeth II.
But something needs to rouse the dozing West.
Judging by its intolerant and vilent behavior, Islam belongs back in Saudi Arabia.
And Muslims should be encouraged to return to their ancestral Meccan homeland, as well, and reform.
And leave us out of their schismic lunacy.
We have the work of Civilization to do.
Watching them go berserk daily among us is tedious.
Posted by: profitsbeard at June 22, 2007 6:53 PM
Mohammedism - the scourge of the world.
Y'know - like the Bubonic Plague.
Posted by: darcy at June 22, 2007 6:56 PM
according to
"The protest at Regents Park" was only "two dozen protestors", so i think the pictures may be a little misleading. on the other hand, Anjem Choudary was there, and he is worth a mob or two.
at June 22, 2007 7:02 PM
An excellent article by Rev Patrick Sookhdeo - one of the first persons to state the reality of Islamic doctrine and the threat it poses to the West and Britain.
It is time leaders in the West recognise that Islamists are focused on gaining ultimate power in all states and societies they operate in. Appeasement only encourages them to speed up their programme in the face of perceived weakness of their enemies. The lesson from Gaza is that it was a mistake to allow Hamas to build up its military wing over decades. It was a mistake to allow it to build up its social infrastructure as an alternative to that of the official Palestinian Authority. It was a mistake to allow it to enter the political democratic process as a legitimate party while maintaining and expanding its military wing.For those with eyes to see, similar processes are underway among the Muslim communities in Western states, including Britain, as Islamists build up a vast infrastructure of organisations and institutions while presenting themselves as liberal and democratic. There can be no doubt that their final goal, according to their published dogmas, remains an Islamic state under shari‘a. The tactics will differ and change, but the goal remains the same and the method of attaining it in well defined stages will continue to be used. Most Islamists in the West reckon they have moved past the first stage into the second, that of building up and strengthening their infrastructure while using deception to enter the democratic process so as to gain new positions of power. Once they judge they are strong enough, they will move into the third stage of power when violence will be used, if necessary, to gain total control of state and society.
http://www.barnabasfund.org/news/archives/article.php?ID_news_items=291
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Posted by: DP111 at June 22, 2007 7:20 PM
If they just had a nuke or two this could turn ugly, thank goodness this is the ole ROP.Cause if they were really pissed.............
Posted by: AMartinez at June 22, 2007 7:41 PM
And while I'm asking are these African Englishmen in the picture?
Posted by: AMartinez at June 22, 2007 7:47 PM
What I find so interesting about all of this is the fact that these islamics have no fear about calling down divine curses; call for "death to this person", "death to that one;" and are the ONLY ones really that have a reputation for murdering people on airliners; in elementary schools; blowing up buses and all the rest.
AND, they have NO FEAR whatsoever about gathering publicly in Western countries screaming death death death -- yet it is the Westerners who are afraid to say anything or do anything.
Aside from the usual JW crowd, why is it that Europeans and Americans put up with all his nonesense?
I have yet to see Westerners anywhere gathering and screaming "death to islam" or "death to mohammad" and I will wager that if they did -- other Westerners would be the first to shout them down and silence them.
Why is that? Must it be this way? Or can the peoples of Europe and America finally shut the islamics up despite their governments?
We will see when the first suicide bombings take place.
Like the islamics, I'm betting that life will go on as always and people will resign themselves to putting up with murder on the part of the islamics.
If that happens, it will not be the right thing to do -- it will be the wrong thing to do.
Islam does not desrve Western freedoms -- it deserves what these protesters are calling for on their own signs.
Posted by: witness at June 22, 2007 7:52 PM
witness, I'm stumped at the responce of most Americans in this day and age. Americans have become laxadaisical in our abaility to comprehed the muslim desire to rule!
Posted by: AMartinez at June 22, 2007 7:59 PM
Meanwhile, Gambia's Islamofascist dictator claims he can cure AIDS, and that Westerners who deny his faith healing are "hypocrites." He denies being "god." I don't deny it; I AM the-GOD (al-Ilah)
http://www.observer.gm/enews/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8015&Itemid=1
...To make a long story short I made it very clear that I declared to the whole world that I can cure AIDS and if I show any fear for any AIDS patients that means that I cannot cure it. So, if I don’t touch the patients am not confident in my declaration that I can cure HIV/AIDS. Why would you be afraid if you are a doctor of a disease you claimed to be able to cure. Well, to our Cuban brothers and sisters, these are true friends of The Gambia. Today Gambia’s profile in the medical service is among the best in the whole world. Thanks to the generosity of the Cuban government and people. Well they may be wondering why, they don’t continue on the treatment. When we started, we started with them. Then a situation arose and I have to let them go. The reason being, when the first CD4 counts results were announced I realised that we have picked a huge fight globally and since the valiant people of Cuba has always been in fight in big powers. I don’t want them to be part of another global fight. I pick up the fight on behalf of The Gambia and humanity. I didn’t want to add another burden to the republic of Cuba, that was the only reason why I said we leave our cuban brothers and sisters in peace, while we continue this global fight that has been unleashed on us. So, it is not because you are not efficient it is not that we did not trust you, the simple reason is that I don’t want to put you in a fight that is directly against Yahya Jammeh and The Gambia. The principles of humanity dictates us that, if you have a friend who is always in a fight and trying to help you, it’s more honourable to involved him in a new fight. That is the reason why our Cuban sisters and brothers were relieve of their responsibility in the treatment of HIV/AIDS.
Why today? I don’t claim to be God, I don’t claim to be a prophet but I’ve every right to claim that am a God fearing person and my love for humanity have no limit and I do everything possible to please the Almighty Allah, and I prayed to Allah. Am not looking for popularity, wealth, but all what I seek is the pleasure of the Almighty Allah. We are not visitors of this world, we are leaving today. The most important world that we all aspire of is the Kingdom of Allah in heaven. Whatever I do in this world, I do in pursuit of the next world...
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I thought Cuba was led by god-denying Communists.
at June 22, 2007 8:21 PM
witness
we are quietly protesting, in a civilised fashion at the polls, during local and national elections. the British National Party are now gaining ground faster than at anytime in it's history. the BNP are now the 4th British Party. give it 10 years and they will be in power in the UK, then we will simply remove these squatters, camly, politely and in a non-violent fashion.
Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at June 22, 2007 8:25 PM
"Peoples remember...given time we all will be immersed in Islam...."
Funny that we ain't all speaking German now, ain't it?
Gosh, it seems that in this world, there are some things more powerful than fanatic murderers, with loyal followers, expousing evil totalitarian political philosophies.
"Every kaffur has the right to [know the full extent of] islam['s evil nature]"
Which is exactly the point of free speech! Way useful in protecting ourselves from evil ideologies.
Yay Rushdie!
at June 22, 2007 8:26 PM
witness
"Aside from the usual JW crowd, why is it that Europeans and Americans put up with all his nonesense?"
without seeming as though i am picking on you, which im not, i just want to clarify a few things with you.
we british and americans are not putting up with all this. hence the fact that our troops are in the middle east fighting them. plus we are actively aiding israel, which is a very good thing to support.
we are allowing these muslims their 5 minutes of fame because it is great publicity, look at how damaging this is, even left wing newspapers in the UK have finally had enough with muslmis attempts to silence one of their darlings. already in the UK homosexuals, ex-muslims, sikhs and jamaicans are taking a stand, speaking out and fighting back against the extremist muslims.
Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at June 22, 2007 8:32 PM
I wish an interprising group of Britons would buy space on a giant billboard in London, and, in large bold lettering, Print "There is no God called Allah, and so Mohammad couldn't have been a Prophet"
Why not? If Muslims are free to print the hateful, murderous, sentiments they display on their signs, why wouldn't a loyal, native born Britain have the same right, and enjoy the same protection under British law as a Muslim?
Oh yes, and be certain to protect the billboard with high voltage fencing.
And if Muslims resort to violence in protest, shoot them down, or deport them.
Posted by: rational
at June 22, 2007 9:06 PM
"Personally, I would like for some wuslims in the West to take the lead...sure protest but in a peaceful manner...to show the kaffur that they are unhappy but not destructively so."
Not.
Gonna.
Happen.
The religion is violent. Many Muslims, under thier skin, are violent. Itching with a sense of perverse entitlement, entitlement to take other's hard-earned weath and women, and for no reason other than obedience to a dead warlord and his demon and/or halucination. They have to hide that violence and sense of entitlement to do good PR.
Hiding that is hard. Therefore, most protesters will reveal their violent, destructive streak. Wording, tone of voice, body langage, etc. This, even with prep help from CAIR-type propaganda groups. Therefore, they help serve as an early warning signal to lacadasial Westerners.
People who thought it was a hijacked religion of peace right after 9/11 are increasingly likely to think the violence and willingess to oppress is part of the religion. This has been shown in statistical surveys; we were willing to give y'all the benefit of the doubt after 9/11. Not so much now. The regular protests over stupid things help form and cement this conception.
Lots of average people who don't hold you the least bit of ill-will and who shrug at these protests so long as they remain non-violent nevertheless register the violent overtones, associate them with mental sickness, and would fight to the death if it ever came down to living under the associated crazy political/social system.
For now, they are humoring the crazies. You begin to step on our toes in a serious way, and that'll change fast.
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"Their belief system says that the Koran is literally truth and the word of God (Allah). If this is true, then they are acting logically and ethically."
And the Nazi belief system said that Jews should be killed, and blonds had more value as human beings that the rest of us. And someone raised with this would be acting logically and ethically, as defined by the principles they were raised with. So?
We're born with an internal moral compass. We're raised to believe lots of things, true false and indifferent. The onus is on us to rejust the beliefs that are irrational and evil. Killing people you don't agree with is evil, and the burden is on the individual to know that, no matter who taught him or her it wasn't.
As far as what is to be done: Make the clear, rational, case for the right position (death threats against, and murder of, authors for writing are bad), and have an extremely strong military defense. Sometimes you can't simply talk something through, if dealing with a violent crazy person or people.
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"Aside from the usual JW crowd, why is it that Europeans and Americans put up with all his nonesense?"
Loss of civilizational confidence, especially after WWII. German philosophy and culture had been quite influential prior to WWII (in the US, German philosophy eclipsed British among the elites long ago), and seeing what the Germans turned in to freaked people out.
Also, Ayn Rand supposedly claims that Kant's philosophy had a lot of it. She noticed this lack of confidence thing herself, coming from Eastern Europe it stood out, and she offered and explanation. She compared it to if you met a nice young man that was scared and underconfident because he had been abused by a madman; the madman is Kant and the young man is the West. But I've read neither her not Kant (beyond excerpts), and so can't say.
I mention her just because I don't know of many others who have offered explanations for it.
Whatever the explanation, the non-elites in the West aren't very much under that spell, in my opinion. We're going to fight when the excrement hits the circulation device.
at June 22, 2007 9:11 PM
Personally, I liked "Midnight's Children" better.
But given that we are in another rage fest, it's important to understand what is going on, since I see some comments where people regard this as another tantrum by laughable idiots.
A rage fest is another type of those razzias, "border raids", which the sacrament of jihad stipulates. When Dar al Islam does not have enough strentgh to simply takeover a piece of Dar al Harb, the harbis are then under constant pressure of raids in all forms whether it is a violent attack, robbery, and pillage, or petty crime, vandalism (preferably of religious objects and places) etc. against the harbi.
Now these borders of course are wherever pockets of muslims are within Dar al Harb.
No-ones feelings are hurt. The "I am offended" stance is a typical belligerent's stance ("I think my mule is offended, could you apologize to him"). The concerted effort of worldwide protests and threats is nothing but a show of force, a show of organization that the masters of war are putting on for our consumption. The family structures and messages of the cult breed sufficient numbers of aggressive males susceptible to certain triggers. What the jihadmasters are showing us is that they can push that button, and boom, rage happens, how scary. Harbis better feel the fear in their heart and submit, and only then be protected from the Rage Boy who loves death.
No, Naseem (although I think you are an alter ego of a jihadwatch staffer) I dont think this goes away after a few years in the free world. The free world is like a very fertile climate, a rain forest, and everything grows here. This cult (the submission cult) in fact when left unchecked would have a very easy time colonizing this patch of Dar al Harb, I think.
Posted by: kuchuklambat at June 22, 2007 9:14 PM
A Celebration of British Culture,
And Depiction of the Fighting of those who, considering themselves "superior", would "exterminate" all those different from themselves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdTELokKfCk
(I love this thing.)
Posted by: mrsmomomoto at June 22, 2007 9:19 PM
we british and americans are not putting up with all this. hence the fact that our troops are in the middle east fighting them. plus we are actively aiding israel, which is a very good thing to support
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And once again they^^^ forget to mention that Canada is also in the Middle east fighting Islamists as well. just a friendly reminder.
Posted by: MoBlows at June 22, 2007 9:44 PM
Salman Rushdie Apostate from Islam = HERO!!
Posted by: champ at June 22, 2007 9:46 PM
You have to admit all you haters out here that the timing of the Honor in not a mere coincidence. You can go ahead and accuse of being a conspiracy theorist. Be cute with your comments!
at June 22, 2007 9:54 PM
Witness,
We have only begun to fight. Standing on the corner and getting in shouting matches with these dimwits is just a waste of energy and all that hot air will only increase global warming!
They are trying to bring out the primitive in all of us and they will be sorry the day it is revealed. They should be careful what they wish for. Heaven won't be able to help Islam the day Americans and Brits begin to fight on the Muslims' level.
For now, we stick to our principles and let them vent. Every day they show those who are willing to listen just how depraved they really are.
Those who think this is all America's fault will be in for a surprise. They think by condemning America they make themselves safe from these nuts. They're not. Not even fellow Muslims are safe, right Naseem?
Posted by: PMK at June 22, 2007 10:00 PM
progressive
Who cares about the timing? Are you defending the Muslims reaction?
at June 22, 2007 10:01 PM
Don't get too excited reading about the Scottish Muslim MP who is quiting because of death threats from Muslims because he helped in getting murdering Muslims extradited from Pakistan. His son is awaiting trial on a US$2m money laundering scam so I think there might just possibly be another reason he is quiting watch this space.
Posted by: Realist at June 22, 2007 10:02 PM
And I find it ironic that a "Progressive" calls us haters for reacting to pissed off Muslims demanding a guy die for writing an unflattering book on Mo 18 years ago.
Thats progressive?
at June 22, 2007 10:04 PM
Ynkedoodl2 posted:
"Where are several hundred soccer-hooligan type British infidels standing face to face with these Satanists and telling them to get the f-ck back to the shitholes they slithered out of?
Not there yet?"
I don't know about the UK, but around here, (US - Minnesota) protests are usually held in the middle of a work day. Tends to keep the "working class" out of it.
Should the working class be called upon to solve this problem? Did they create it?
Posted by: freedomschool at June 22, 2007 10:12 PM
O/T
Saw on Hannity & Colmes tonight that there will be a documentary called Islam v Islamist on FNC tomm night 6/23 7pm. By Frank Gaffney who produced another documentary that PBS refused to air as part of Crossroads series in April and discussed here at JW. That documentary will be shown by an Oregon PBS station and Gaffney says he hopes Fox to be airing that one as well someday soon.
Set your Tivos.
Posted by: Leave Iraq Now at June 22, 2007 10:17 PM
What is the difference between Islam and Islamists? I cant tell the difference.
Posted by: Elric66 at June 22, 2007 10:24 PM
You have to admit all you haters out here that the timing of the Honor in not a mere coincidence. You can go ahead and accuse of being a conspiracy theorist. Be cute with your comments!
Posted by: progressive
I don't know who you are calling haters but at what time is a good time to do anything not considered islamic by muslims?
And for the most part when were we supposed to give a damn if what we do upsets muslims?
And if i am to be a hater because i don't believe in the tightly curled piles on the lawn that is islam so be it.
You have met the preverbial brick wall if you plan to be an islamic apologists with this islamophobe.
IF thats what your posting attitude was.
Posted by: Dar al-harb at June 22, 2007 10:59 PM
At some point Syria and Iran need to be turned into 50,000 hole golf courses.
In further news, The Easter Bunny had a meeting with a moderate Palestinian leader.
Anyway, I would consider it an honor and a privilege if you would add my blog "The Tygrrrr Express" www.blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com to your list of linked sites if you feel the quality is high.
I came across your blog through Michelle Malkin's website, since I enjoy her writing.
Happy summer.
eric
Posted by: blacktygrrrr at June 22, 2007 11:06 PM
The first picture is not relevant to the sotry. It remember that face. It was a protest from the time when Lil Kim(aka Queen Bee) went to court and some tradionalists were picketed outside protesting her destructive lifestyle. And thus the sign "May God curse the queen". and notice that those so-called muslim protesters used the God not Allah, now why would they do that?
Posted by: progressive at June 22, 2007 11:12 PM
It's a literary device called a "snowclone" -- a familiar saying that's recognizable even when often appearing with different words substituted, like "______ is the new ______." In this case, it's a play on "God save the Queen."
The Lil Kim theory seems like quite a stretch. Is there documentation? What that would suggest is that there are some raving Islamophobes (possibly Zionists, to boot) at Reuters, AP, and AFP who were recklessly recycling old material as new news to defame Islam.
I doubt it.
Posted by: MarisolJW at June 22, 2007 11:24 PM
"I wonder if the romans, as they watched the germanic hordes coming over the 7th hill, realized that this was truly the end of their empire."
Despite the damage caused by the barbarian tribes ALL of them were becoming Romanised within 2 generations and were integrating reasonably well. There were certainly changes to the way that the provinces were governed( less central control)but what really destroyed the western Roman empire was the Mediterranean becoming an islamic sea with no coastline in France, Spain, Italy or greece etc safe from the razzias.
In these attacks not only did they kill everyone they did not take in slavery but they also destroyed ALL crops and thus most of the coast became markedly reduced in population. When you add this to the loss of ALL african provinces, including Rome's granary:Egypt (plus the loss of all libraries) you can easily see that it was THIS and not the barbarian invasions which destryed rome as the Barbarians had minimal effect upon Rome's economy as amaritime power, whereas the Muslims destroyed it and continued to do so for near 500 years.
The ONLY reason the crusades took so long to occur was because it took 500 years for a nation state to emerge that had sufficient strength to do so. Thus only one out of reach of the malignant arm of islam could do so, i.e., northern europe.
Also ignore progressive. he/she is just another uninformed idiot and about as intelligent as is Naseem and her hypocritically ignorant but totally arrogant in their style, posts.
at June 22, 2007 11:37 PM
"You have to admit all you haters out here that the timing of the Honor in not a mere coincidence. You can go ahead and accuse of being a conspiracy theorist. Be cute with your comments!
progressive,
Please explain what timing has to do with this. Would another time have been more sutable?
Muslims believe they have the right to kill an apostate, or anyone that insults their religion, no matter what the timinq.
I suppose the Danish cartoon episode had somethig to do with timing also.
At no time do Muslims have the right to violate someone elses rights because of their screwy religios beliefs -- and they certainly don't have the right to kill others because of those beliefs.
As for hate, it's a part of their religion to hate. Period.
Posted by: rational
at June 23, 2007 12:01 AM
Naseem you are an evil little weasel but I still defend your right to be so.
I also defend my right to say that mohammed was also evil and because of that there will be no peace upon him.....ever.
I have the right to pick a side and I pick the side that has nothing to do with islam or it's pathetic,sycophantic followers.
I choose to fight against islam, mohammed and the creatures who have insufficient brain power to realise that committing death and destruction in the name of a fictitious god are defeating that fiction and are sending the book into obscurity.
islam is in its death throes.
Posted by: marilyn at June 23, 2007 12:23 AM
Progressive.
Conspiracy is the hand maiden of the ignorant.
at June 23, 2007 12:43 AM
But the question is, if we are starting from such opposite view points, what is to be done? Other than name calling, smirking, us-vs-them chest thumping, and other useless gestures, what do JW readers suggest we do in the real world?
Posted by: ReligionofPeas at June 22, 2007 2:14 PM
What do we do in the real world? Which "real" world, the world of left-wing, self-loathing, haters of Western Civilization and worshippers of multiculturalism, or the world of normal, sane, self-respecting people who wish to conserve Western heritage and culture? Your query sounds so hopeless, implicative of resignation and surrender. Do you feel there is nothing we can do about belligerent, bellicose muslims who threaten not only our peace and tranquility, but our very way of life?
I know what I would like to do but I can't say it here. I truly hope that Western governments can muster up the courage to deal with these unsavory bullies because if they don't, the people will. In the meantime, muslims should be ridiculed, laughed at, mocked, and derided for behaving like primitive simians. Gorillias have more dignity that these atavistic fanatics and I would rather see them going berserk in the streets than muslims. At least gorillias have a legitimate excuse to act like animals.
We don't have to seethe in silence while these savages vent their inherent rage and insult and threaten us in our own countries. Until we get some laws changed there's not much we can do, but we can stomp around with nasty signs and scream just as loud as they can.
at June 23, 2007 1:23 AM
I'm afraid this will not end until every one of them is either killed or converted.
Posted by: Timur at June 23, 2007 2:11 AM
What we do in the real world?
Cartoons and more ridicule for islam, another pope episode and more and more truth about islam shoved down their throats till they implode...
at June 23, 2007 2:46 AM
Here is a reminder of the definition of "innocents" according to Mr. Anjem Choudhary who is featured in the picture:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C73ePf_2KVw
Its a shame that no action is being taken against such people who incite hatred.
Posted by: freetheworld at June 23, 2007 2:50 AM
Do they all buy their signs at the same Jihadi shop?
Will someone please get these people some Magic Markers...
Posted by: DJM at June 23, 2007 7:29 AM
Salman will be safe forever if he takes up pig farming!
MK
Posted by: Malaria_Kidd at June 23, 2007 8:02 AM
Re: Real World. Keep spreading the word about what's inside the Koran and the murderous life of Muhammed. Recommend JW and DW. Recommend certain books, like Mr. Spencer's. And don't back down when someone calls you a "hater" or "racist" - instead, point out that in fact you haven't beheaded or mass-murdered anyone. And that Islamists aren't a race, they're a religion, the "religion of death and violence."
I liked your comment, Susanp. Imagine - "insulting and threatening us in our own countries" - Oops, don't have to imagine. It's all really happening.
Posted by: darcy at June 23, 2007 8:34 AM
What would I like to see happen in the real world ?
Eradicate, eradicate, eradicate !
Or at least, stop any more muslims from coming over here and send the rest back to their islamic desert paradise.
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at June 23, 2007 9:12 AM
And once again they^^^ forget to mention that Canada is also in the Middle east fighting Islamists as well. just a friendly reminder.
Thanks, MoBlows. We lost three more brave soldiers just this week in Afghanistan, trying to bring peace and democracy to people who neither want nor appreciate either.
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at June 23, 2007 9:53 AM
But the question is, if we are starting from such opposite view points, what is to be done? Other than name calling, smirking, us-vs-them chest thumping, and other useless gestures, what do JW readers suggest we do in the real world?
Posted by: ReligionofPeas
Extradite and nuke. In no particular order.
Posted by: Allahfanculo at June 23, 2007 3:20 PM
ReligionofPeas
we need to vote in folk that are willing to start mass deportations. simple really.
Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at June 23, 2007 5:10 PM
PSA:
Tonight at 9pm (to 10:30) on FOX NEWS is a program titled "Banned By PBS; Muslims Against Jihad."
This is NOT the same film as "Islam vs. The Islamists" which FOX also plans to show eventually. I don't know anything about this one except that it is by the same outfit (represented by Frank Gaffney last night) that produced Islam vs. the Islamists.
It promises to be of interest to JW readers (and hopefully well beyond).
Posted by: alexon at June 23, 2007 5:11 PM
any betting men out there? Naseem included.
England will be a muslim land one day fully, or will not have a muslim in the land...
cigar time.
Posted by: winston at June 23, 2007 10:36 PM
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