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Here again, as always, after Muslims are caught plotting mass murder of innocent civilians in the West, the mainstream media focuses on Muslim fears of a backlash that hardly ever materializes. And here again, as always, the Muslims say nothing -- nothing at all -- about being spurred by the latest uncovered jihad plot to start working harder to identify jihad terrorists within their ranks and turn them over to authorities.
From AP (thanks to Twostellas):
(AP) Name-calling, anxiety, fear and anger rippled through Britain on Sunday after three failed bomb attacks in London and Glasgow. Government and religious leaders appealed for calm, but some Muslims braced for a backlash — while some non-Muslims looked for someone to blame.The attacks sparked scattered incidents of racist abuse on the streets of London, with young white men targeting Muslim taxi drivers and others of South Asian appearance. Glasgow lawmaker Mohammad Sarwar said some Muslims in Scotland had been threatened or targeted with abusive graffiti.
Oh, horror of horrors. Thousands of non-Muslims were targeted and threatened with mass murder. What does Sarwar have to say about what he plans to do to keep that from happening again?
"I have spoken to a number of people from the Muslim community and the Asian community who feel very angry," he told British Broadcasting Corp. radio.He said Scottish Muslim leaders were meeting in Glasgow to discuss the attacks' impact on their community.
"They're concerned about a backlash and that's why the emergency meeting has been called."
Muslim anger was directed at the terrorists — but also at a society some felt singles Muslims out for scrutiny whenever there is a terrorist attack.
"We are seething with anger about this," said Osama Saeed, Scottish spokesman for the Muslim Association of Britain.
"As a community not only are we just as likely to be victims as anyone else, but we are also looked to in order to provide direction and in some respects take responsibility for this," he added.
"We are sick of being defined as a community by terrorism and having to answer for it."
Then do more to prevent it, and voila! Insults and fears of backlash will evansce!
On an official level, government and Islamic groups say they have made great strides since July 7, 2005, when four British Muslims blew themselves up on the London transport system, killing 52 commuters.In the weeks that followed, several mosques were attacked by arsonists, while others received hate mail. Some women reported having their traditional head scarves pulled off in the street.
Relations between the government and many British Muslims had already been strained by the unpopular wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Many Muslims also feel they were unfairly targeted for suspicion and have born the brunt of the government's tough new anti-terror measures.
They are not being unfairly targeted for suspicion. How many British Hindus have plotted terror attacks? British Jews? British Anything Else But Muslims?
The government has made a point of reaching out to Muslim groups and consulting with umbrella organizations like the Muslim Council of Britain, which represents more than 400 affiliated mosques and organizations.Gordon Brown, who took over as prime minister from Tony Blair on Wednesday, appointed Shahid Malik, an up-and-coming legislator from northern England, as the country's first-ever Muslim government minister.
On Sunday, Brown stressed the need to isolate extremists from the broader Muslim community.
"We have got to separate those great moderate members of our community from a few extremists who wish to practice violence and inflict maximum loss of life in the interests of a perversion of their religion," he said.
Yes, we keep hearing that. That sounds like what Blair said after 7/7. And now two years after that, how much progress have we made?
Posted by Robert at July 1, 2007 4:28 PM
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Yeah. Some real humanitarians and patriots these guys.
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at July 1, 2007 4:46 PM
" Name-calling, anxiety, fear and anger rippled through Britain on Sunday after three failed bomb attacks in London and Glasgow"
Doesn't say anything about murder. That is evidently a right reserved to Muslims who are offended by cartoons.
Posted by: rational at July 1, 2007 4:52 PM
Gordon Brown, who took over as prime minister from Tony Blair on Wednesday, appointed Shahid Malik, an up-and-coming legislator from northern England, as the country's first-ever Muslim government minister.
That would almost be funny if it wasnt so tragic.
Posted by: km at July 1, 2007 4:55 PM
In the weeks that followed, several mosques were attacked by arsonists, while others received hate mail. Some women reported having their traditional head scarves pulled off in the street.That was for their own good, since full body covering is bad for the health.
Relations between the government and many British Muslims had already been strained by the unpopular wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.Actually, relations between Muslims and the rest of the world were strained 14 centuries ago, when old Mo started killing pretty much anyone who opposed him, Arabs first.
Many Muslims also feel they were unfairly targeted for suspicion and have born the brunt of the government's tough new anti-terror measures.They were not unfairly targeted. It's MUSLIMS who do the terrorrists attacks. It's MUSLIMS who behead non-Muslims (and even other Muslims). It's MUSLIMS who attack everyone else, almost every single day. It's logical to monitor the people who belong to the religious group who seems to harbor such a high quantity of assassins.
The government has made a point of reaching out to Muslim groups and consulting with umbrella organizations like the Muslim Council of Britain, which represents more than 400 affiliated mosques and organizations.I hope it is not like un-indicted co-conspirator CAIR, is it? They "used to represent a lot of people", until it was found out tha they don't really represent that much. What's worse, they are being fed by Saudi money.
On Sunday, Brown stressed the need to isolate extremists from the broader Muslim community.Good luck on that! Posted by: Crusader
at July 1, 2007 4:57 PM
Yes but of course it is the Muslims who are the victims in all things not the dead dismembered (or nearly dead and dismembered) innocent folks blown asunder by Muslim bombs,airplanes and swords.
Posted by: DetectiveArbogast at July 1, 2007 4:59 PM
Gordon Brown, who took over as prime minister from Tony Blair on Wednesday, appointed Shahid Malik, an up-and-coming legislator from northern England, as the country's first-ever Muslim government minister.
If the goal going forward is to remain as Representative Republics, the trick will be to set voter eligibility criteria correctly in the wake of the collapse of the entitlement system and / or WMD disaster.
If the criteria are too narrow, only the elite will be able to vote and we’ll end up with the Republican end of the immigration coalition establishing a serf-like society.
If the criteria are too wide, the electorate will again vote themselves government benefits that the society can’t afford. Professional politicians will end up importing voters and have to pander to them.
The criteria should be reasonably achievable by all members of society who work hard and keep their financial house in order. Ideally, the eligibility would be set so that the average prospective voter would have to spend a couple of decades in the workforce gaining life experience.
How about setting the eligibility requirement to be lien-free landowners? It meets the above goals. Those Founding Fathers were pretty smart.
at July 1, 2007 4:59 PM
Thought experiment: Some Coptic Christians in Egypt were found rigging vehicles with massive explosives that failed to detonate in front of major Egyptian landmarks and then one day later the same Coptic Christians were found having tried to detonate a major explosive outside Egypts' main airport terminal.
Questions:
1. What would happen to the Coptic perpetrators?
2. What would happen to their Coptic Christian families?
3. What would happen to any other Coptic Christians who knew nothing about and had nothing to do with such an attempted terrorist attack, yet happened to live surrounded by a whole lot of Muslims?
Would the Egyptian government issue stern warnings against retaliation against the Coptic Christian community?
Would the Egyptian government make clear that Christianity is a "religion of peace" and so now we will build some churches in dar al Islam in order to demonstrate our interfaith bona-fides?
Would the Egyptian governement now conclude that they need to bring forth Coptic Christians front and center into Eqyptian politics in order to create an "interfaith dialogue" which would address these Coptic Christian grievances in order to prevent further similar attacks?
What? Your answer is no? Then why the hell is the west playing this SUCKER GAME on behalf of Muslims?
Posted by: Caroline at July 1, 2007 5:02 PM
Boycott everything Muslim. Do not take their taxis, do not buy at their stores, do not buy their sandwiches, NOTHING. Hope the brits are smart enough...to instead of boycotting Israel boycott the real enemy. They complain? Then you brits complain, go out to the streets, complain openly, show YOUR ANGER to protect your children. It is a shame the Muslim community fears a backlash after what they do. They protest BRITS PROTEST TOO.
Posted by: Theyloveus at July 1, 2007 5:04 PM
Isn't it interesting that after a moslem attack, the moslem mantra is not one of denouncing terror - it is the "fear" of a backlash. Ahhh, the two ever so predictable emotings of these barbarians is perpetual outrage and perpetual victim hood.
I can only hope one day those fears will be well founded. The civilized world has only so much patience for these barbarians and their enablers.
We haven't played cowboys and moslems yet....
Posted by: infidel! at July 1, 2007 5:06 PM
When I say ANGER I mean ANGER and not VIOLENCE, notice that. Just act smart and do not hurt anyone, some Muslims are nice only they live in fear. Some germans were nice too, but they did nothing to stop the holocaust. Just BOYCOTT THEM.
Posted by: Theyloveus at July 1, 2007 5:09 PM
Notice when I say ANGER I mean ANGER but not violence. Some muslims are nice too and live in fear, most opressed women. Some germans were "nice" too but did nothing to stop the Holocaust and that has a name. Do not hurt anyone.Just BOYCOTT EVERYTHING MUSLIM.
Posted by: Theyloveus at July 1, 2007 5:12 PM
Ah yes, the "fear of backlash".
Translation: "We are still outnumbered by the kuffur, they might retaliate before we are are too numerous to be stopped.
No condemnation of the attacks, no denial that Islam does not teach this type of behaviour in the Qur'an or the sunna or the haditha, just fear that they will be made the victims.
It's always about them, how they are victims.....
"Shame on the infidels for making us feel bad about ourselves and our religion just because we are commanded to subjugate and kill them. It's the infidel's fault! Bad infidel! Bad kuffur!"
at July 1, 2007 5:18 PM
Great... I wonder why I haven't seen a Jewish blowing stuff, oh wait, they did, the Glasgow airport, and the cars, by Jewish and Buddhists... I cant do sarcasm in those circumstances, if those muslin's cared so much for not being discriminated against, then they would have called the police about those terrorists cells... i think they deserve this punishment...
Sorry for any mistakes in my message, I'm just too angry and i hate hypocrites!
Posted by: Dr.CancerMan at July 1, 2007 5:22 PM
There should be a backlash, but there won't be. How long until the next election?
Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 1, 2007 5:24 PM
At this rate, America is going to have to be very careful about British visitors here.
Posted by: jewdog at July 1, 2007 5:28 PM
Let's give these bastards a backlash in the next elections, vote british national party, its as simple as that.
Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at July 1, 2007 5:29 PM
There will come a time in Britian and America, when all free peoples are ready to take action against these evil persons. When an American city or town is nuked or bombed and the death toll keep's escalating, the cowards will really come out of the woodworks. And again they'll claim we are not deserving of this backlash. But freedom loving peoples will!
Posted by: AMartinez at July 1, 2007 5:30 PM
"We are seething with anger about this," said Osama Saeed, Scottish spokesman for the Muslim Association of Britain.
"As a community not only are we just as likely to be victims as anyone else, but we are also looked to in order to provide direction and in some respects take responsibility for this," he added."
Yeah well - welcome to the club. We are also "seething with anger" about this. Like you, we are also "just as likely to be victims as anyone else" and like you we are "looked to in order to provide direction and in some respects take responsibility for this"
Oh Man - what a great game you've got going on that you've managed to make yourselves as Muslims just as innocent as we Christians whom you are attacking and moreover, you've managed by manipulation of language, to make us actually responsible for your attacks against us!
Truly, it's brilliant! A really brilliant propoganda move to make US responsible for your war against us. But hey - gotta hand it to you for your basic cunning.
It ain't for nothing that Muslims are reknowned for their cunning. It's just going to take a while for most westerners to catch up to the real brutal implications of that fact.
Posted by: Caroline at July 1, 2007 5:33 PM
kick their fannies,I should have finished.
Posted by: AMartinez at July 1, 2007 5:35 PM
What? Your answer is no? Then why the hell is the west playing this SUCKER GAME on behalf of Muslims?
Posted by: Caroline
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Oh darlin' don't ya know its because the West likens herself as *above* that kind of action, after all she is *civilized* and *fair-minded* and after all maybe more people would hate us for being so mean to these poor ill-educated, "humiliated" type people/Muslims. And this will be the downfall of the West.
Posted by: DetectiveArbogast at July 1, 2007 5:40 PM
"We have got to separate those great moderate members of our community from a few extremists who wish to practice violence and inflict maximum loss of life in the interests of a perversion of their religion," he said.
What's with the "we"? Allow me to rephrase:
MUSLIMS have got to separate those great moderate members of THEIR community from a few extremists who wish to practice violence and inflict maximum loss of life ON INNOCENT PEOPLE in the interests of a perversion of ISLAM.
Posted by: PMK at July 1, 2007 5:41 PM
Perhaps the headline should have read:
BRITSIH CITIZENS FEAR BEING MUREDERED BY MUSLIM FANATICS
It is a quickly becoming evident that Brown will provide no leadership in dealing with the problem even after being presented with a trail of carnage on innocent civilians when these plots blossom into success for the Islamists. In fact, from what I hear him saying to the Brits is: "Get used to it, we've got a long road of murder ahead of us."
Appointing an Islamist as British minister will be a great help. They can hold hands and bow their heads together everytime innocent civilians are murdered by the enemy.
Posted by: Briars at July 1, 2007 5:46 PM
"...Muslim Council of Britain, which represents more than 400 affiliated mosques and organizations".
Yes, and it is a pity the article does not tell us a little more about some of these "400 affiliated mosques and organizations".
Jamaat-i-Islam, the Islamic Foundation and Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadith for instance, three groups that openly promote Islamic supremacism and contempt for non-believers, and have strong links to terrorism.
It is a pity also that the article does not tell us more about the MCB's - and its affiliates' - enthusiasm for peddling the ideologies of Maulana Maududi and Sayyid Qutb, both of whom I am sure well known to readers here.
'Sir' Iqbal Sacranie, that disgusting bigot who used to lead the MCB, is a big fan of Maududi, as is that, erm, friend of LIttle Green Footballs, Inayat Bunglawala.
The MCB are practitioners of what Hugh Fitzgerald would call 'slow jihad': they purport to represent Muslims but in reality they are political activists with a political agenda that essentially does not differ from that of this weekend's failed martyrs.
at July 1, 2007 5:51 PM
PMK writes:
MUSLIMS have got to separate those great moderate members of THEIR community from a few extremists who wish to practice violence and inflict maximum loss of life ON INNOCENT PEOPLE in the interests of a perversion of ISLAM.
May I make a suggestion:
MUSLIMS have got to separate those great moderate members of THEIR community from a few extremists who wish to practice violence and inflict maximum loss of life ON INNOCENT PEOPLE in the interests of "pure" ISLAMIC SUPREMACY.
Posted by: Briars at July 1, 2007 5:51 PM
Briars, I believe the democrats in America have basically said the same thing. Alot of Americans will not sit idely by!
Posted by: AMartinez at July 1, 2007 5:52 PM
*Breaking* (Sky) Suspects arrested are Hospital Doctors
(seems the RoP doesn't even believe in the Hippocratic Oath)(/i>
Posted by: Un:dhimmi at July 1, 2007 5:56 PM
'Isn't it interesting that after a moslem attack, the moslem mantra is not one of denouncing terror - it is the "fear" of a backlash.'
Posted by: Infidel!
Yes, very interesting. It's also interesting that in the articles that first came out on the Glasgow Airport attack, the people that did the attacking were called "Asians" or "South Asians", but when we read about the Muslim community worrying about a backlash, we here nothing but the word, "Muslims". Are they condemning themselves to guilt by association or perhaps guilt by admission?
You gotta love these guys. They remind me of the scumzoid in what I think was the first Dirty Harry movie. He was a real rat bastard while he was shooting people in swimming pools. But the second the shoe was on the other foot and he was the one that was caught, he turned into the sniveling, whining, pathetic piece of crap that he was. The same thing happened in the first Horatio Hornblower movie on A&E. When Horatio was in a duel with that loser Jack Simpson, he took it like a man when Jack shot him in the arm, but then when it was Horatio's turn to shoot, Jack falls on the ground, whining and begging. So much for the cruel and all powerful midshipman that made Horatio's life so miserable. He was nothing once he was found out. The same goes for whining Muslims. Just remember, their best offense is a whining, "oh woe is me" defense, because people seem to fall for it every time.
Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at July 1, 2007 5:58 PM
BBC News 10.00pm 1 July
All 5 arrested are "Of Middle Eastern origin" including Mohammed Asher an Iranian Doctor with a young child who came to Britain to work.
Posted by: Fred at July 1, 2007 6:00 PM
The advice from Theyloveus to "Boycott everything Muslim. Do not take their taxis..." may make very good sense.
See below -
"Staffordshire Police and the local media have been quick to cover up the horrific assault on a local lad by a gang of Muslim taxi drivers in Stoke.
This evening (1st) Shaun Middleton lies unconscious in a high dependency unit in Stoke with suspected blood clots to the brain and a fractured spine/neck"
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news_detail.php?newsId=1589
at July 1, 2007 6:03 PM
They are worried about a backlash from the infidels, but methinks they are more afraid of being targeted by the jihadis should they speak out too loudly against terrorism.
If they won't clean out their own religion, WE WILL.
Posted by: Thunder Pig at July 1, 2007 6:11 PM
From AP (thanks to Twostellas):
(AP) Name-calling, anxiety, fear and anger rippled through Britain on Sunday after three failed bomb attacks in London and Glasgow.
Note the spin in this line: "three failed bomb attacks. . ." The one in Glasgow looked fairly successful to me , altho I guess the moslems consider it a failure, since nobody was killed.
And "name-calling"! How awful of those Brits. Don't they know that old rhyme: "Names and taunts will break my bones, but flames and bombs will never hurt me."
at July 1, 2007 6:18 PM
I hope that the Brits don't conclude that they need to be more circumspect about who they knight after this, or otherwise modify their behavior out of fear of Islamic violence. That's mainly why, for example, the Israelis don't allow Jews to pray on the temple mount, Judaism's holiest site.
The fear of Islamic violence is the beginning of Islamic domination. Instead, emulate General Patton and just say "Nuts!" to them.
at July 1, 2007 6:20 PM
Ed Husain, the recovering jihadist, makes no bones about identifying the Muslim Association of Britain as an Islamist organisation. Given his background, his words must carry some weight (even if the general thrust of his opinion-piece does not).
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/article2010048.ece
Posted by: Burnside at July 1, 2007 6:22 PM
Burnside -- Thank you for the link to that article. I think an organized boycott is an excellent idea.
For such a boycott to be successful and not be written off as racist, it would have to be centred around an issue such as this terrible crime or the refusal of Muslim cabbies to take passengers with alcohol or seeing eye dogs.
Posted by: Josephine at July 1, 2007 6:33 PM
Burnside (and anyone else in the UK), let's stick that article on every newsgroup, bulletin board etc site that we use.
Posted by: Celsius at July 1, 2007 6:48 PM
I agree with you, Infidel Pride - there SHOULD be a backlash. Definitely. No doubt about it.
Posted by: darcy at July 1, 2007 6:50 PM
Muslims are guilty of massive 'hate crimes' against us. And what do we get from our enlightened leadership? We get blamed! How sick, what a perversion of reason and common sense, what travesty of justice. They're trying to kill us! Get the picture, we're in their jihad targets, and nobody, not Muslims, not imams, not politicians, are doing anything to identify the real problem. Maybe Naseem and 'progressive' could lend a hand here, and tell the pols what's it really all about: Mohammed's Jihad! What a hate riddled bunch. Oh, I forgot, pols too play the 'blame game', that we're the problem. Consider this, if we stop your Sharia from ever becoming law, you can hate us all you want, we will be proud of it. Your 'racist, bigoted hate crimes' don't scare us. Got the picture? This is the 'backlash': we understand your 'hate crimes' against us.
Posted by: Battle_of_Tours at July 1, 2007 6:51 PM
It is really a plausible posibility. If you react violently, we going to pay in jail or be attaked and mistreated worse than the law treats the terrorists. If you make them starve, little by little, it is not a crime. A simple boycott on muslim products, or any country such as Pakistan or arab countries would bring interesting results.First you weak your enemy, no food, no power to fight. Also flight companies from Saudi Arabia, very well known,do not fly on them. Oil seems to be the real problem though, at this moment.Also those places where they burn huge pieces of meat, how they call it,kebabs? Don't but there either,I never did and I still survive. Do not watch any movie with muslim actors or muslim supporters.Nothing to buy coming from a muslim clerk, such as fruit or whatever.Jewelry also, watch for it.Clothes...such as hats, kuffiyas...very common among the white youth in Europe too. DO NOT BUY Che T shirts because in the end they are connected to the Muslim community even when it may sound contradictory, the money from those T-shirt stores go to Muslim communities and help them in every aspect. And over all, protest in the streets too, because when the dog smells the fear, it bites you. Organize legal protests and so on.It is obvious that without any kind of opposition,they think everything is ok with the attacks, and so nothing happens, no repercusions. Every movement needs of opposition. BOYCOTT EVERY MUSLIM PRODUCT OR SERVICE and they will eventually get weaker.
Posted by: Theyloveus at July 1, 2007 6:51 PM
"We are sick of being defined as a community by terrorism and having to answer for it."
Not half as sick as we are of you!
Hold a news conference announcing the establishment of a massive organized anti-jihad effort, renouce all the hatred in the koran, verse by verse, accept western laws ver batum, follow through on it, leave no doubt about your position, establish a working group with security forces to root out and report jihadists, engage yourelves, you stupid fools. We DONT BELIEVE your half hearted, usless efforts up til now. Words mean nothing, actions do, and damn firm ones at that. You muslims better take control of your own destiny, not ours!, and soon!
Posted by: sounder at July 1, 2007 6:52 PM
Backlash? The Mohammedans have no idea what a backlash is. There will be one for sure someday, and it will make all the name calling look like a sunny day in the park.
Posted by: Lepanto at July 1, 2007 6:53 PM
OH and of course, VOTE FOR THE ONES WHO YOU THINK WILL REALLY PROTECT YOUR COUNTRY AND NOT THE ONES WHO COME TO KILL YOU.
Posted by: Theyloveus at July 1, 2007 6:54 PM
My God, England and Scotland - Fight back against the Barbarian Muslims - What's wrong with you???
Posted by: darcy at July 1, 2007 6:54 PM
That's a great comment, sounder.
But I say - GO BACK TO YOUR ISLAMIC COUNTRIES, YOU BARBARIANS!
Posted by: darcy at July 1, 2007 6:59 PM
sounder's advice to Muslims is good, but it won't work. Only a small number of Muslims have the sophistication to understand that the calls to domination and violence against Infidels in the liturgy should be relegated to the seventh century and that therefore they must act in an organized way to reform it. It would be much more effective to realize that the violence and supremacism in Islam marks Islam as something that needs to be excluded, discredited and scrapped. Defeat Jihad Now!!!
Posted by: jewdog at July 1, 2007 7:11 PM
“some non-Muslims looked for someone to blame.”
Well, we haven’t got far to look, have we?
at July 1, 2007 7:12 PM
They said they caught the 4 Fanatics and one was on flames. Is this a joke? Or it was the movie trailer? Sorry, this is a bad joke.
Posted by: Theyloveus at July 1, 2007 7:13 PM
What will it take for Western governments to stop their appeasement and coddling of Muslims living within their countries in increasing numbers and committing act of violence on a continual basis? Our leaders, craven and/or inexcusably ignorant of the tenets of Islam, continue to excuse, to reach out to the hostile minions who wish them (and the rest of us) ill. It is my belief that no matter how great the magnitude of future Muslim atrocities in the West, no matter how many are killed or maimed in such attacks (and such attacks are sure to occur), even after cities are laid waste and glowing in nuclear ash, our leaders will, despite all, issue pleas for fairness and for restraint, clinging to the mantra that these attacks, despite thousands dead or wounded, are the handiwork of Those Who Do Not Understand Islam or Practice It Correctly. They, our "leaders," will never jettison their insane, and suicidal, paradigm.
It is time to become angry, and to become strident. Make it clear to your friends and families what Islam stands for. Give books to those who have the time, intelligence, and inclination to read them, and direct them to websites such as this one. Do not be afraid to teach what you know about Islam to your children, your clergymen, and to anyone who will listen. Offer to lecture in your respective churches or synagogues - while I suspect that many, even most, clergy will be reluctant to allow this, some might. Attend da'wa presentations by local Muslims, and be prepared to counter their taqiyya when you hear it. Bring notes, such as ayat from Suras 5, 9, and so forth. Identify what lyrical and ecumenical passages in the Qur'an have, through naskh, been abrogated. Have, readily at hand, the hadith from al-Bukhari about the tree bidding the Muslim to kill the Jew hiding behind it, and the one about how Jesus will break the cross, kill the pig, and abolish jizya, and what that means. Be prepared to disrupt, through your knowledge, the presentation. Bring knowledgeable friends with you, so in case,as happened to me, you are prevented from participating, others may take up the mantle. Ally with like-minded congregants from other churches, synagogues, and Hindu temples, and spread knowledge of Islam in both private and public venues, as the law allows. It's time to take active steps to save our civilization by educating everyone who will listen.
at July 1, 2007 7:19 PM
“We have got to separate those great moderate members of our community from a few extremists who wish to practice violence and inflict maximum loss of life in the interests of a perversion of their religion," he [Brown] said.”
What’s great about them? The rest of us have no trouble being moderate, and don’t expect to be called “great” for being normal human beings. But Muslims are supposed to be patted on the back and cosseted for refraining from murderous mayhem.
Posted by: JFGR at July 1, 2007 7:20 PM
jewdog, I don't think it will work either, but national leaders, congresses, parliaments etc., with authority need to come out and tell these 7th century headlobbers once and for all to reform themselves completely, and do it now, not next year and not after that. Muslims are the ones who need to be doing all of the "accommodating" henceforth, otherwise, we shall have to be doing the "radical reforming" instead, and it won't be for them.
Posted by: sounder at July 1, 2007 7:20 PM
What will it take for Western governments to stop their appeasement and coddling of Muslims living within their countries in increasing numbers and committing act of violence on a continual basis? Our leaders, craven and/or inexcusably ignorant of the tenets of Islam, continue to excuse, to reach out to the hostile minions who wish them (and the rest of us) ill. It is my belief that no matter how great the magnitude of future Muslim atrocities in the West, no matter how many are killed or maimed in such attacks (and such attacks are sure to occur), even after cities are laid waste and glowing in nuclear ash, our leaders will, despite all, issue pleas for fairness and for restraint, clinging to the mantra that these attacks, despite thousands dead or wounded, are the handiwork of Those Who Do Not Understand Islam or Practice It Correctly. They, our "leaders," will never jettison their insane, and suicidal, paradigm.
It is time to become angry, and to become strident. Make it clear to your friends and families what Islam stands for. Give books to those who have the time, intelligence, and inclination to read them, and direct them to websites such as this one. Do not be afraid to teach what you know about Islam to your children, your clergymen, and to anyone who will listen. Offer to lecture in your respective churches or synagogues - while I suspect that many, even most, clergy will be reluctant to allow this, some might. Attend da'wa presentations by local Muslims, and be prepared to counter their taqiyya when you hear it. Bring notes, such as ayat from Suras 5, 9, and so forth. Identify what lyrical and ecumenical passages in the Qur'an have, through naskh, been abrogated. Have, readily at hand, the hadith from al-Bukhari about the tree bidding the Muslim to kill the Jew hiding behind it, and the one about how Jesus will break the cross, kill the pig, and abolish jizya, and what that means. Be prepared to disrupt, through your knowledge, the presentation. Bring knowledgeable friends with you, so in case,as happened to me, you are prevented from participating, others may take up the mantle. Ally with like-minded congregants from other churches, synagogues, and Hindu temples, and spread knowledge of Islam in both private and public venues, as the law allows. It's time to take active steps to save our civilization by educating everyone who will listen.
at July 1, 2007 7:23 PM
Name-calling, anxiety, fear and anger... - from the article
Jeeps and bombs may break one's bones, but...
Posted by: MarisolJW at July 1, 2007 7:24 PM
Britain went on the highest security level of “critical” after two terrorists smashed a blazing jeep into the Scottish arrivals terminal Saturday, the day after two bomb cars were disabled in central London. This level indicates further attacks are expected.
No need to worry about a backlash -- at least, not a serious organized one.
With UK's ruling elites in their hip-pockets, there will be no backlash against muslims no matter how many heads they chop off for allah.
The greatest danger is that the London-Glasgow incidents are part of a larger scenario which is still to come. http://debka.com/
That goes for what is left of the US too.
at July 1, 2007 7:27 PM
Daddy daddy is it groundhogs day yet? Son calm down,it's always groundhogs day.
Funny isn't it how thier voices can be heard after the moderates...er i mean the extremists actions?
Just a few more days and back to the deafening silence.
AMAZING!
I like the news article about the muslim women in Saudi Arabia who were taken for a joy ride by the religious police.One fearful woman asked if they were terrorists,they said no we are the religious police.Then called thier buddies to pick them up and left the women stranded.Probably hoped they would try to drive themselves so as to give them the old justice by the beating abd rape,virtue.
The true answer is YES they are terrorists.They all are.
Posted by: Dar al-harb at July 1, 2007 7:28 PM
"We are seething with anger about this," said Osama Saeed, Scottish spokesman for the Muslim Association of Britain.
"As a community not only are we just as likely to be victims as anyone else, but we are also looked to in order to provide direction and in some respects take responsibility for this," he added.
Some Questions need to be asked.
First, is the Mohammedan anger directed at the so called would be “martyrs” for their failure or exposing some other plans they have prematurely?
Second, aren’t the locations selected predominately areas used mostly by kafur so the odds of “innocent”* lives lost low?
Third, where are the international Hindu, Buddhist, Protestant, Catholic, Wiccan, Russian Orthodox, and Sikh terrorist, these others that they seem to think we should also be watching?
* http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP93205
at July 1, 2007 7:29 PM
Doctors?
Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA at July 1, 2007 7:31 PM
A jeep about to kill hundreds and the continous fear of more attacks during the whole day and night on white,black,asian,indian,hispanics british citizens(not muslims though) produce not anxiety.Just the name calling on the ones who " know but don't talk". Uhmm...interesting.
Posted by: Theyloveus at July 1, 2007 7:32 PM
he attacks sparked scattered incidents of racist abuse on the streets of London, with young white men targeting Muslim taxi drivers and others of South Asian appearance. Glasgow lawmaker Mohammad Sarwar said some Muslims in Scotland had been threatened or targeted with abusive graffiti.
and:
Muslim anger was directed at the terrorists — but also at a society some felt singles Muslims out for scrutiny whenever there is a terrorist attack.
"We are seething with anger about this," said Osama Saeed, Scottish spokesman for the Muslim Association of Britain.
So one of these creeps is called Mahomet and the other one is Ozama. Hmmmmmh....
And oh, how horror ohf horrors.. moozleems have been "targeted" with grafitti!
Mon dieu! Quel Horreur!
All I have to say is: moslems, GTFO!
Posted by: Allahfanculo at July 1, 2007 7:34 PM
So they worry about backlash but as far as I know they are the ones that almost burned France once.
Posted by: Theyloveus at July 1, 2007 7:35 PM
Let us not forget: you can't suffer a backlash unless you first inflict a lash.
Posted by: Menetheos at July 1, 2007 7:45 PM
Why is it that when terminators called islamofascists commit murderous rage, rape, robbery, murder & mayhem it's called "JIHAD", as well as "justified" (for whatever reason)...
...BUT, when their victims decide to do what's really called FIGHTING BACK it's "racist" "backlash" ...and they claim to "fear" it???
(yes, it's rhetorical)
Interesting...most interesting...
Posted by: jcom972 at July 1, 2007 7:45 PM
"We are seething with anger about this," said Osama Saeed, Scottish spokesman for the Muslim Association of Britain.
"As a community not only are we just as likely to be victims as anyone else, but we are also looked to in order to provide direction and in some respects take responsibility for this," he added.
This comment says it all,really it does.
He is seething with anger at the audacity for the non muslims to actually accuse muslims for muslims blowing people up or attempting to blow people up.(it's not muslims (islams) fault it's everyone elses (other religions as well),or at least we should all be blamed the same for it).
"As a community not only are we just as likely to be victims as anyone else...(true but in islam or at least the True Believers islam (all islam)there are no innocents,especially if you haven't as yet killed the nearest infedel to you (answered the call to physical jihad),and besides you will go to paradise anyway so no real harm done by muslims being killed.)
"...but we are also looked to in order to provide direction and in some respects take responsibility for this," ( Uh yes ,it is your religion that was "hijacked".It is your religion whose followers use to justify the killings,even muslims.Spending your entire life in islam if you do not recognize an imam instructing his listeners to kill,kill,kill then you sir are too ignorant to notice anything.As for taking responsibilty for the "religion of peaces" actions who should we hold responsible for islam and it's followers actions?)
The entire statement by this loon is insulting.All he is saying is it's not islams fault it's the fault of the crusaders and thier allies.He says we,the muslims are the victims here not any would be murdered victims,not the airlines property.
It's everyone and anyones fault but us victimized and oppressed by colonial empirical abusers muslims and our FANTASTIC religion of peace,which by the way if you just submit to us all will be well.
Islam IS the answer,ERADICATE it and there will be peace.
Posted by: Dar al-harb at July 1, 2007 7:53 PM
That's mainly why, for example, the Israelis don't allow Jews to pray on the temple mount, Judaism's holiest site.
The fear of Islamic violence is the beginning of Islamic domination. Instead, emulate General Patton and just say "Nuts!" to them.
Posted by: jewdog
The Jews need to have a PRAY-in on the Temple Mount. In fact, they need to "tear down that mosk"!
Screw the mahometans!!!
Tear down all mosks!!! I am sick and tired of having to listen to their aggressive talk and seeing it brainlessly [thank God!] implemented.. However.. WE reserve the RIGHT to do the same, mahometans!!
I want you all OUT of OUR LANDS!
Posted by: Allahfanculo at July 1, 2007 8:13 PM
"We are seething with anger about this," said Osama Saeed, Scottish spokesman for the Muslim Association of Britain.
"As a community not only are we just as likely to be victims as anyone else, but we are also looked to in order to provide direction and in some respects take responsibility for this," he added.
"We are sick of being defined as a community by terrorism and having to answer for it."
Get Out! Go back to dar-al-islam. We have the RIGHT to point an accusing finger at you. It IS your religion that is preaching this and it IS your co-religionists who are trying to kill our people.
You are not sorry about the killing of unbelievers, you are just sorry we're on to you.
at July 1, 2007 8:18 PM
My God, England and Scotland - Fight back against the Barbarian Muslims - What's wrong with you???
Posted by: darcy
Multiculturalism. Thay are unarmed and brainwashed with double talk.
Posted by: Ruebacca at July 1, 2007 8:24 PM
You stupid poms. You had to embrace all the scum of the earth, now its kicking you in the teeth.
You deserved it.
at July 1, 2007 9:42 PM
Now we can watch the senerial of a backlash for a week on tv. What could of happened..show us the spots it could of happened..what if...we should..
Posted by: MZ at July 1, 2007 10:30 PM
A temporary "backlash" is not needed. What is needed is a sustained campaign of mass education on the nature of Islam, the texts of Islam, what Islam inculcates, the attitudes and atmospherics that arise naturally in societies (even societies within, but not of, the Lands of the Infidels) suffused with Islam, and a consequent sustained resolution on the part of many more to subdue or diminish the menace of Islam, to halt its march, and to reverse the Muslim presence in the Infidel countries, because, as I am determined to repeat and repeat:
"The large-scale presence of Muslims in the countries of the West has led to a situation that is far more unpleasant, expensive, and physically insecure, for the indigenous Infidels and for recent non-Muslim arrivals as well."
Islam flatly contradicts the principles, the legal and political institutions and social arrangments and moral understandings, of the non-Muslim world. No treacly pieties about "abrahamic faiths" and the "three great monoetheisms" should obscure this -- and by now only the simplest of simpletons takes refuge in such nonsense.
Posted by: Hugh at July 2, 2007 12:15 AM
How many hours until the "He's a good boy--he wouldn't do something like this" sequel comes out?
at July 2, 2007 12:38 AM
Dear Mr.Spencer,
Muslims are pampered by the media, here in India. In fact, whenever there is Muslim mis-behaviour, even though the Hindu majority does not materialise a back-lash, the media rakes up the issue of "anxiety" among the Muslims. It is however well known that the Hindus have reacted only on extreme, very extreme provocation.
For the person lacking self esteem, or for the schizhophrenic, an external report of insecurity is enough to create a panic reaction. That is what is happening among the Muslims. Schizhophrenic and lacking in self-esteem that they are, any media report (like in India) saying that they are likely to be targetted, is enough to make them "seething with anger" as a Muslim said, in your article.
Humouring the grisly will only increase their cruelty. But who listens ? What does the media achieve by such humouring ? Is the media afraid of "vandalism by Muslims". But what of the duty of the media ? Anyday the truth has to be told. Let us hope the day dawns....
at July 2, 2007 3:36 AM
A magistrate started his own one-man boycott, even before the recent attempted bombings.
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Magistrate walks out as woman defendant appears in a full veil
By JAMES TOZER
A magistrate has reignited the controversy over full Muslim veils by walking out in protest after a women wore one in his court.
Ian Murray pulled out of the hearing when Zoobia Hussain appeared in a niqab, which covers the head and the face apart from the eyes.
Posted by: Burnside at July 2, 2007 5:42 AM
Backlash here, backlash there. All the while, reading this article, I kept thinking of 7/7. NO MORE MUSLIMS! It makes as much sense as inviting termites into your home.
Posted by: mustang65 at July 2, 2007 6:20 AM
Hemoglobin-
"You stupid poms. You had to embrace all the scum of the earth, now its kicking you in the teeth.
You deserved it."
Ah, look. Seems we have ourselves ourselves a little shackle-dragger deep in the throes of personal denial. Tell you what mate, have a good look around your own back yard and see if it's clean before you go telling anyone they 'deserve' anything.
Posted by: Wishbone at July 2, 2007 6:23 AM
Shahid Malik, MP for Dewsbury, doesn't like it when indigenous Brits sing about British culture and lament its erosion:
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/04/367870.html
[sarcasm]But of course Islam has so much more going for it - as all JW regulars know.[/sarcasm]
See BNP councillor, Colin Auty's performance (it starts at timestamp 08:58) outside Mr Malik's offices:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODX-jLguVSA
Ha, ha, ha!
Posted by: watling at July 2, 2007 6:37 AM
I suspect that the involvement of many muslims in terrorism in the UK is underestimated. Whenever we see an attack we get muslims saying how they are picked on or marginalised etc. etc. This is just not true, they lie. I live in London, the racism and violence comes from the muslims aimed at non-muslims. Their arguments are like childrens' arguments. If they shout loud enough then they believe that they must be right. BUT, and most importantly, these people are not being victimised. This being the case it suggests that they are purposefully lying in order to progress the terrorist (jihad) cause. It's time we took a long hard look at the people living in this country irrespective of whether they were born here. We need to halt ALL asian immigration into the west and deport ANYONE who suggests that islam is the right way for this country to go, if you support the islamisation of a country you are basically saying that you want to see little girls married of to pedo's, gays hanged and women treated like slaves.
Posted by: DaveMate at July 2, 2007 10:48 AM
What does it take to get these so called moderate muslims to step up to the plate and turn in these terrorists. Without their help there will be no end to this. Send all of them back to where they came because as far as I am concerned they are ALL terrorists until THEY prove us wrong.
Or the next time a terrorist bombing kills innocent civilians drop a bomb on the so called moderates. An eye for an eye. That will certainly wake them up.
Enough is enough. You dont like our Countries but you keep flooding our gates. Go away
I am sick of looking at you, sick of hearing about you and especially sick of paying my hard earned money supporting your useless asses
at July 2, 2007 5:05 PM
The "civilized" world has to drop more bombs and quit apologizing for killing terrorists who hide behing children or take their families with them.
Posted by: Hebrew Handyman at July 2, 2007 9:40 PM
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