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July 1, 2007

Sky News: Two jihad suspects are hospital doctors

Another blow for the poverty theory of "radicalization." "Two Terror Suspects Are Hospital doctors," from Sky News:

Two of the five terror suspects being held in the wake of the failed car bombings in London and Glasgow are believed to be hospital doctors working in the UK.
The majority of the five terror suspects being held in police custody in connection with bomb attacks in London and Glasgow are not British and at least one is still at large, according to Sky sources.
Sky sources believe one of the men arrested at Glasgow airport and a 26- year-old man arrested on the M6 with a 27-year-old woman in Cheshire are both doctors.

The BBC identifies the male doctor as being from Iran.

Sky Crime Reporter Martin Brunt said: "This is very far removed from the picture we normally have. These are professional people with highly paid jobs who are intent on killing people."
There are currently five people in custody in connection with the bomb attacks and the majority are believed not to be British. At least one key suspect is said to still be at large.

Posted by Marisol at July 1, 2007 7:27 PM
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Well, this puts paid to the theory that Jihadis are socially and economically deprived. It never held ofcourse, but it has always been the excuse proffered by Islam apologists in the media and the government.

Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 7:37 PM

Too much! This gets better with the telling.

This is your WAKE UP call England.

Posted by: Battle_of_Tours [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 7:38 PM

Looks like that explains the other thread on the cops blowing up a car in the hospital parking lot without a public reason...

...by the way, Zawahiri is also a doctor.
gee...what a coincidence.

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 7:41 PM

Wait a minute. Weren't they poor opressed Palestinians? Or poor and discriminated muslims in the gettos they live in? They earn for sure more than an average british. Brits...you better wake up.

Posted by: Theyloveus [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 7:43 PM

If you can sue the Catholic Church for sex acts committed by Priests, I’d argue that you can sue a Mosque for any medical ‘mistakes’ made by observing doctors against Infidel patients. Especially if there is any dirt on the Mosque.

I hope the BNP looks into the doctor’s patient records and leads a legal effort on behalf of any family’s that received bad medical care. If a man feels the call to blow up a car bomb and kill innocents, it makes sense that he would feel the call to administer bad medical service and injure innocents.

Posted by: pez [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 7:50 PM

The populace will start refusing to patronize muslim businesses, muslim airlines, muslim doctors and so on as more and more of these atrocities take place and the penny drops. I think the penny is dropping pretty fast these days although not amongst the politicians who are in big time denial.

Posted by: cathkins [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 7:52 PM

This Muslim Cleric is NO Paper Tiger

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/07/01/this-muslim-cleric-is-no-paper-tiger/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 7:59 PM

cathkins

Muslim airlines?? You mean the ones with Muslim pilots and Muslim standards of maintenance? Hell no.

BTW. I hear that Indonesian airlines has been banned from European airspace for failing to meet technical standards.

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSBRU00577920070628

Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 8:00 PM

Next thing, millions of HIV infected in England coming to light in one year. I am perfectly sure those Muslim doctors working in any western country might be infecting the non-muslims as well.It is a terrorist attack, biological and plausible. In the mean time, they complain about not having decent jobs.

Posted by: Theyloveus [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 8:01 PM

Some of those martyrdom seekers Iran says it has positioned to attack the wests interests?

The only jobs these people are fit to work at are as weights at the end of the noose to keep it from blowing in the breeze.

Keep adding nooses to the tree and start hiring.Then the deafening silence will be the true sound of peace not plotting.

Posted by: Dar al-harb [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 8:04 PM

Theyloveus

You are not making me feel safe at all. I'm not going to sleep well tonight.

When hospitals have Jihadis operating as doctors within, we are in really dangeruous territory, as public confidence in the NHS can collapse.

Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 8:06 PM

Well this proves what many here have said. You can't trust any of them. Educated or not. The west (Canada is one) has this notion to import "educated" anyone as assets. This blows that theory to allah.

Posted by: sounder [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 8:10 PM

by the way, mengela was a doctor too.

Posted by: callmeinfidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 8:17 PM

DP111

I am sorry, it is just a possibility but it does not mean that they have done it already. However even if they have not done it...what can we do? You think the politicians are going to take them off the Hospitals? Imagine the riots it could cause. My point is, if Dr Death and other psychos have done it already, why not in a massive way by Muslims who happen to hate Western societies? You just have an option, from now on, BOYCOTT muslim doctors too, no matter what, just choose your doctors. They call you racist? Islamophobic? Whatever you say, but i would not go to a muslim doctor to treat me for anything, I'd rather die. No way. I just hope nobody is infected by these morons.

Posted by: Theyloveus [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 8:17 PM

Oh let's not forget, there were some rumors of suicide bombers already infected with HIV so when they explode they do not only produce immediate casualties but infections as well in the survivors and paramedics.

Posted by: Theyloveus [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 8:23 PM

...but, but, what about their hippopotamus oath!?

Wow, someone better check these doctors' patients' treatment history for Dead Infidel Syndrome.

Posted by: Mike_W [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 8:30 PM

I read one worked at the University Hospital of North Staffordshire in Stoke-on-Trent.

In September, Maribel Espada, 33, died when she contracted PVL- producing MRSA after giving birth by Caesarean section at the University Hospital of North Staffordshire in Stoke-on-Trent. Another patient also died at the hospital, with the outbreak affecting a total of 11 people.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20061223/ai_n17072084

More than 1,000 patients at the North Staffordshire Royal Infirmary in Stoke-on-Trent received incorrect treatment after a machine was set up wrongly for nine years.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_19970422/ai_n14112933

Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 8:35 PM

Pez

An absolutely excellent suggestion...as a physician I've known surgeons who have lost their privileges for botching cases by the peer review surgeon committee within a hospital, a nationwide norm in the US..my point-if the committee and hospital had not ethically done so, they would not have (more importantly) protected future patients and exposed themselves to horrendous future litigation, press and automatic jury awards...indeed Pez (Sir or Madam) why not mosques? Why not? They are on tape, Memri, etc spewing theory to Islamic physician adherents that murdering innocents (or anyone else) is acceptable and is ipso facto malpractice and if the specific mosque the MD attended is positively ID'd, it should be held feloniously liable as an accomplice after the fact in English/American law...great idea..any lawyers out there

Posted by: nodak [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 8:45 PM

And we entrust our health and very life to those "doctors" from Hell? Talk about Sicko. There are also many Muslim "doctors" in Canada and here in the US. Revolt, revolt, revolt! Revolt before it is too late. Revolt while you still can. Revolt against the tyranny of our sociopathic PC cults. March for Zionism, for there is no other way to save the Western world. Zionism is not "the Jewish religion", or "an ancient tradition" as even many educated types here in the US mistakenly think. It is a modern political ideology, the one and only "ism" that has fully validated itself. This coming August 31st will mark the 110th Anniversary of this glorious movement. When it was launched in Basel, Switzerland, the Zionist Manifesto, also known as the Basel Program, put forth 2 missions: National and International. The National mission has been fulfilled with the miraculous rebirth of Israel. "This world will be liberated through our liberty", vowed the Manifesto.This is the International Mission. Let the liberation begin. And it is up to us, the non-Jewish folks to get the non-Jewish phase of the Zionist Revolution started. Zionism is not for the Jews only. I am a Muslim, I am not Jewish by any definition, have no ties to Israel, no Jewish family or even friends, and yet, I am eager to be a Zionist. As a Muslim, I am well aware of the grave threat Muslim immigration poses to every Western nation, letting Trojan horses in. Even a very dark-minded left-wing Seattle Times columnist Floyd McKay had a brief flicker of light in his mind when he recently wrote that murder and demographic invasion are "the twin engines" Islamic extremists' war on the West. This is why I, a Muslim, keep relentlessly calling on both Israel and the US: "Don't let any more people of my kind in!". The enemy has a fighting ideology: it is Islamism/Islamofascism/Islamo-Nazism. We don't have one, this is why we are so weak, confused, disunited and disoriented in the face of the determined, genocidal enemy. Not only don't we know how to fight the jihadis, but we keep cowardly restraining tiny, heroic Israel, guided by its glorious ideology. We must stop this insane, suicidal confusion and embrace the Zionist ideology. It will not make any of us less Muslim, or less Christian, or less Buddhist, or less atheist, etc., because Zionism is not a religion, it is a political ideology calling for the entire humanity to join Israel in the final battle against evil. Our brave Evangelicals, the largest remaining pool of courageous Americans have already launched their own Christian Zionist movement, and I salute them for that. But theirs is an all-Evangelical affair, and because of that they lose lots of good people: Catholic, Orthodox, atheist, etc. Let us the rest of us launch our own, religion-neutral Zionism, open to absolutely anyone. Echoing the Biblical passage, the Manifesto vowed: "Israel will be light unto nations". It is. Open your windows, your doors and your hearts and let the sunlight in. Folks, everywhere: US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Europe, Serbia, Russia, Japan, China, Singapore, Thailand and Korea: start forming Zionist cells in your families, neighborhoods, schools, cities, states and provinces. Get the movement started and follow Israel's guiding light! Everybody unite, unite, unite around Israel!
British folks, if you google my name you will see that I am not a fan of your nation, to put it mildly. One ray of light shone briefly amid the darkness of Albion last month, however: David Cameron, the Tory leader, speaking before a Jewish audience, declared himself a Zionist. Join him, and you will have my respect.

Posted by: Enragedsince1999 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 8:54 PM

26 and 27? very young to be practicing doctors

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 9:07 PM

Theyloveus

Many a time we are unable to choose a doctor. This is specially so in A&E departments. Most Muslim doctors are assigned to A&E, as no one is really fond of working there. And that is exactly where we are likely to turn up in the aftermath of an accident, and in no condition to choose doctors.

Posted by: DP111 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 9:07 PM

NODAK

If there is evidence these doctors intentionally mistreated patients to do them harm, malpractice suits are the least of their worries. Such activity could have criminal punsihments, and each patient would constitute a seperate crime.

It seems to me though, that if just killing large numbers of infidels was their goal, TWO doctors in a hospital setting could cause much more damage than ramming a burning car into an airport terminal. Would not they have access to dangerous bio-contaminents and other toxic substances, and could they easily spread other infectious deseases more easily? If so, I suppose it was the spectacle of the firebomb in a public place that drew them to this type attack.

Posted by: Leave Iraq Now [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 9:12 PM

So they were doctors? Think what this means.

Wake up Britian! You have over a million Muslims around you and NONE of them you can trust - just read some of their beloved Koran.

But will your current politicians do what is necessary to protect you? No, they will rush to assure you that most British muslims are peaceful, and thereby also keep the Muslim block vote.

Posted by: FM [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 9:32 PM

Doctors, eh? Physician, Heal Thyself!

Posted by: Timur [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 9:47 PM

Quote from article under discussion: "professional people with highly paid jobs who are intent on killing people."

You got it mate. Professional Killers. I don't like the number of Muslim MDs who are turning out to be jihadists.

Frankly: we can't trust ANY of the Muslims currently embedded in our: intelligence service, civil service, police force, army, health service, public utilities, transport system, food preparation facilities, communications, police force, construction industry...Sleepers. Moles. Dormant saboteurs. Time to do some serious discrimination - and some weeding - simply because: there is NO reliable way to distinguish between a jihadist and a non-jihadist, and the latter can suddenly flip into the former, without any real warning. Infidels are not trusted by Muslims in Muslim countries, Infidels are excluded from positions of authority or trust over Muslims - why? because Muslims project onto us their own patterns of thinking and EXPECT us to exploit any such position precisely as they would and as they do.

Look. My daughter just got referred to an oral surgeon. The guy's first name is Chris but his surname looks...Arabic. And after reading today's discussion, I'm going to check, I think. I think I had better ask...Are you a Muslim? And if so, I will take my daughter to someone else, no matter how much my dentist (who is Greek - 'Papas') insists that the guy's OK.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 9:48 PM

A new low: jihadist doctors.

Nothing surprises me any more.

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 9:50 PM

but... but... isn't poverty the 'root cause' of Islamic militancy?? That's what we keep hearing from the liberal elites who dominate the media and the academy (and the State Dept).

Posted by: alexon [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 9:52 PM

Are they gynecologists?

Posted by: mustang65 [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 10:14 PM

Britian, wake up? How many doctors do you know here that are muslim? ALOT!

Posted by: MZ [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 10:25 PM

I have several times here posted my suspicions about Muslim doctors working in Australia. There seems to be an inordinate number of fit young Muslim men on Disability Support pensions and a lot of Muslim women who say that they are separated but never become divorced and yet remain on child support penstions for their 5-7 children. I have in fact reported this but no one ever seems that interested and I fear that our public service is overrun by socialists.

In addition when you do a locum for a Muslim doctor in Oz you almost never see his Muslim patients unless he is unexpectedly absent or overdue, when they come out of the woodwork and very demanding they are as well.

The surprise above about the fact that these two criminals are doctors shows very little understanding of the jihadic or even the muslim attitudes of such doctors. To them we are untermenschen and nothing is too bad for them to not do it to us. I am sure that you have all forgotten the jihadist who worked in an Iraqi hospital as a doctor and who personally killed over 130 badly wounded enemies including US troops
by some(unknown to me but not the authorities) means.

In the west doctors do try to be better people deserving of their status. But not all and there are always exceptions which people seize upon and i would guess this to be about 20%. However a Muslim doctor who subscribes to his religion will always approach any kaffir from the POV of a Muslim rather than a doctor and so the above is not unexpected. It serves Australia right for plundering the medical riches of overseas countries instead of increasing the number of local graduates with the later being blocked not only by the politcians but by the specialist colleges with their vested interest in maintaining the lack of supply and hence the maintenance of the high costs.

Posted by: MisIslamist [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 10:49 PM

Further to my comment above is this:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,22001001-601,00.html

One of the questions I asked of my public service enquirer was just how a man with asupposed disability and on a disability support pension could manage to both make and afford seven trips to Afghanistan (as well as look after his wife and children).

This is the man about whom I was referring but naturally he has a bleeding heat left winger looking after him (Sydney University was always a hotbed of left wingers).

This is how these scum get away with it: the left wing fools cover them in saliva.

Posted by: MisIslamist [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 11:11 PM

You guys got it right. It's time to boycott Muslim businesses. 7-11's, taxi drivers, medicine, restaurants, etc... They cannot be allowed to thrive in our country.

Spread the word.

Posted by: atheling [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 11:20 PM

At least they have diplomas

Posted by: progressive [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 11:49 PM

At least they are educated

Posted by: progressive [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 1, 2007 11:49 PM

"At least they have diplomas"
"At least they are educated"

So were many Nazi and Japanese war criminals.
Your point?

In addition, as discussed countless times here islamic extremism in the west appears to be more a habit of the "educated" than of the poorer groups.

progressive, You are slipping badly in the quality of your trolls. are you okay?

Posted by: MisIslamist [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 2, 2007 12:04 AM

haha at lease they are educated with diplomas? so was hitler and his educated henchmen. does an education make you less evil or just a clever evil person? These jihadist doctors prove the point.
Also as i had said before, most of the real muslims in infidla lands are engaged in questionable if not illegal activities, and they know how to take advantage of our liberal systems.

Posted by: desidude [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 2, 2007 12:08 AM

I'm not surprised, as someone mentioned AQ's second in command is also a doctor. There is also the case of a Muslim doctor who was training in the US who stands accused of letting an elderly Jewish patient die. The man's son is suing both the doctor and the hospital, claiming that his father was neglected in the ER because he was Jewish. Doctors take an oath to "first do no harm" that oath doesn't apply to at least some Muslim doctors.

Posted by: Roxane [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 2, 2007 12:10 AM

progressive, You are slipping badly in the quality of your trolls. are you okay?
-Mislamist

Give the guy a break, I think he missed his 'period'.

Humor.

Posted by: pez [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 2, 2007 12:21 AM

"Doctors take an oath to "first do no harm" that oath doesn't apply to at least some Muslim doctors."
Roxane, Muslim doctors oath is ...do no haram.

Posted by: Shakey_Premise [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 2, 2007 12:40 AM

Roxane,
The jewish patient that died in the ER of Rush North Shore hospital in a Chicago suburb,was Mr.Joseph Applebaum.
The name of the muslim doctor who was supposed to treat the patient,is Osama Ahmed Ibrahim,a jordanian with jordanian who was granted British citizenship and lives in Birmingham,UK.
The patient was suffering from an acute abdomen,easily diagnosed and treated,but lethal if not taken care of immediately.
The patient was seen by Ibrahim,he knew it was an acute abdomen,and he left him there for 8 hours,to die in agonizing pain.

Posted by: adela [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 2, 2007 12:55 AM

If we have hospital's with Muslim doctor's, nurse or staff...remove them.
I don't want to wake up with my head impaled.

Posted by: Cher [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 2, 2007 1:01 AM

If the guy is a doctor, the girl more likely to be an English girlfriend. I am sure she will talk like a canary.

Posted by: MusHuntCowboy [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 2, 2007 1:19 AM

MusHuntCowboy

Don't think so, but then she always went out in a burka.

Posted by: Fred [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 2, 2007 4:16 AM

regressive (aka progressive):

At least they have diplomas

At least they are educated

Do you still think the perpetrators of this latest terrorist campaign are Irish Protestants ...

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017157.php#c414443

... or ETA?

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/017166.php#c414883

The question about "progressive" is: how mainstream are this cretinous moron's views?

It's bad enough that he/she/it has been completely brainwashed into following a death cult started by a 7th century warmongering murderer spawned from Satan's anus, but to say that black is white and vice-versa makes me wonder precisely what the word "truth" means to one of his ilk.

Does the word "truth" exist in Arabic? If so, is the definition: "whatever you want to believe"?

Posted by: watling [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 2, 2007 5:23 AM

What they should do is allow 10,000 or so Iraqi's in the UK. That is like allowing 10,000 Argentineans in during the Falkland Islands war into London, or the Germans when WW2 was at its peek.
The country has opened its arms too much to the world and the enemy or shall we say the dubious situation or sensitive times. It’s bound to explode in our country is we allow people to flow in from a country that has not settled it's war crises let alone freedoms.

In a way it's good because more people can come here on this website and others and all agree to write and join in to say look Europe you are being naive and letting the Lions out in the streets when you should have left them in the zoo or back in the dessert out of Europe, one day we will get mutilated.
But will they learn? No, so hope God blinds them spiritually as punishment as they go on doing and the UK deserves this just for being stupid on it’s self defence strategy they lack.

Posted by: jesusisthelamb [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 2, 2007 5:34 PM

FYI - The hippocratic oath is no longer required in all medical schools. If you have doubts, you should ask if the doctor took the oath. I would still not let an Islamic doctor touch me -- oath or not!

Posted by: PLCinTEXAS [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 2, 2007 5:45 PM
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