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Gee, what a coincidence! I wonder what ideology they all held in common. Were they all committed Quakers, maybe? Devout Presbyterians? Serious Libertarians? Raw food vegan zealots? Come on, Ayres, you're the expert. Give us a hint!
An example of what passes for serious analysis in these days when the best and the brightest are too cowed, too compromised, too lazy, or too bored to find out what's behind all this jihad business: "Diverse group allegedly in British plot," by David Rising for Associated Press (thanks to Golson):
LONDON - They had diverse backgrounds, coming from countries around the globe, but all shared youth and worked in medicine. They also had a common goal, authorities suspect: to bring havoc and death to the heart of Britain.
No, their common goal was to institute Sharia in Britain, and along the way to strike terror into the hearts of Allah's enemies (cf. Qur'an 8:60). Havoc and death were a means an end.
The eight people held Tuesday in the failed car bombing plot include one doctor from Iraq and two from India. There is a physician from Lebanon and a Jordanian doctor and his medical assistant wife. Another doctor and a medical student are thought to be from the Middle East.All employees of the United Kingdom's National Health Service, some worked together as colleagues at hospitals in England and Scotland, and experts and officials say the evidence points to the plot being hatched after they met in Britain, rather than overseas.
"To think that these guys were a sleeper cell and somehow were able to plan this operation from the different places they were, and then orchestrate being hired by the NHS so they could get to the UK, then get jobs in the same area — I think that's a planning impossibility," said Bob Ayres, a former U.S. intelligence officer now at London's Chatham House think tank.
"A much more likely scenario is they were here together, they discovered that they shared some common ideology, and then they decided to act on this while here in the UK," he said.
"Some" common ideology. Doesn't matter which one, evidently.
Posted by Robert at July 3, 2007 6:22 PM
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Doctorophobics!
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at July 3, 2007 6:34 PM
I wonder when these so-called "experts" will get a clue?
Posted by: mrockroll1969 at July 3, 2007 6:35 PM
Presbyterians?
Posted by: MP at July 3, 2007 6:42 PM
I'm seeing a whole Montey Python skit around this.
If this wan't so serious the stupidity and eggshell walking would be laughable.
at July 3, 2007 6:46 PM
Greetings:
Okay, once again, let's roll the "What do these guys have in common" video.
It's truly deceptive, the way that the media is identifying the "Indian" doctor(s). At least one has been identified with a Muslim name.
What about a journalism malpractice law?
Posted by: 11B40 at July 3, 2007 6:46 PM
ot- but clever ... The new Scottish summer holiday is being called "Ramavan".
Posted by: MP at July 3, 2007 6:52 PM
This reminds me of the clip "The 1/2 hour news hour: Jihad", which was on YouTube, before it got removed.
If anyone here has seen it, I think you'll agree.
Posted by: Rogster at July 3, 2007 7:05 PM
They also had a common employer...
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8Q5CC600&show_article=1
...the UK National Health Service.
Nothing like some of a governments own employees doing the deed.
Welcome to the wonderful world of political correctness...the absolute opposite of common sense.
...and we in the US are next.
as Dirty Harry says...
"marvelous"
at July 3, 2007 7:17 PM
Now that the swamp has been drained and we all can see whats left in the mud and filth ,the Muslim group had no choice because they have been gragged kicking and screaming to at least pretend to admit to the reality of the Elephant in the room.
Too bad that when this team of Doctors were caught we heard the first fallback response of
how they "Fear backlash" as if it's all about them and not the civilians that didn't get slaughtered for Allah.
Tonight at 8pm Toronto Canada time Robert Spencer will be on the radio , Michael Coren is the guest host for Jim Richards and the link
for listening online is below.
at July 3, 2007 7:23 PM
I have noticed the BBC and the British authorities starting to use phrases such as "al-Qaeda inspired", or "some connection to al-Qaeda". No mention, of course, of what inspires al-Qaeda, or what the "connection" actually is!
Posted by: Paul at July 3, 2007 7:23 PM
Ok Kufiri's the proff is in repent ... CONVERT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb93ruJ1DFo
CONVERT NOW!
Posted by: Ameriki at July 3, 2007 7:36 PM
And some people want national healthcare, government provided. Can you imagine showing up at your assigned doctors office which doubles as a dmv only to find Dr. Frankenstan waiting for you, with a big fat smile on his face? No thanks, I’ll die at home.
Posted by: tgusa at July 3, 2007 7:37 PM
An example of what passes for serious analysis in these days when the best and the brightest are too cowed, too compromised, too lazy, or too bored to find out what's behind all this jihad business: "Diverse group allegedly in British plot," by David Rising for Associated Press (thanks to Golson):---Robert
You nailed it re "the best and the brightest". But deep down they know the truth. The problem here is that once these "intellectuals" face reality they have to do something about it. They have to change their minds. They have to admit they have been wrong. Hence the denial. They can't see things clearly and speak plainly because of their vanity.
Unfortunately, it often requires a crisis to make many people face facts squarely. That's true for Muslims and non-Muslims in these matters.
Posted by: Frank at July 3, 2007 7:38 PM
There is something so inherently REVOLTING about a a doctor of medicine trying to hurt and injure crowds of innocent people of all ages.
Aren't 'moderate' Muslims DISGUSTED in a gut way by this? Ashamed? Apparently not. Islam, unlike ALL other great religions has no antibodies to evil.
Posted by: poetcomic1 at July 3, 2007 7:51 PM
Can you hear it? The sound of Hippocrates spinning at 5000RPM over these so called doctors. I guess the beginning of the Hippocratic oath, "First do no harm" does not apply, since all westerners are apostates. I wonder where they got their MD licenses.....from a CrackerJack box, no doubt.
"Islamophobes of the world, Unite!"
at July 3, 2007 7:56 PM
poetcomic1 - in a book I'm reading right now, the author says: "Muhammed constantly taught his followers that loyalty to Islam overrode all other human bonds." (9:23-24; 58:22-23).
So, concerning your comment, the aforementioned came before, way before, "First, do no harm."
Posted by: darcy at July 3, 2007 8:01 PM
One more diverse group of jihadist Islamic imperialists.
They came from diverse countries.
Spoke diverse languages.
Practiced diverse medical speacialties.
Looks like an attempt at diversionary tactics by the craven infidel media.
It's the Koran, stupid.
Posted by: profitsbeard at July 3, 2007 8:02 PM
Here's what happens when you go to one of those doctors:
Doctor: "Ok, now we're going examine your throat. Open wide and say Aaahhhhhhh!"
Patient: "Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh....."
Doctor: "Good! Say Aaaaaaaaaallllllllllll.."
Patient: "Aaaaaaalllllllllllllll...."
Doctor: "Aaaaaaaaallllllllllllaaaaaaaaahhhh"
Patient: "Aaaaaalllllllllaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh"
Doctor: "Faster, Aaaalllaaahhhh"
Patient: "Aaaaallllaaaahhhhh, Aaallaahh"
Doctor: "Good! Now repeat five times a day."
Patient: "For hemorrhoids?"
at July 3, 2007 8:04 PM
You can not blame the “experts” they were trained in the best Islamic studies programs Saudi money could buy. It’s almost like learning combat from a book of tactics; it makes perfect sense until you attempt to apply your knowledge. The “experts” will not have a clue until the gain the experience of the older and more knowledgeable warriors like Robert and his motley crew or they are forcibly converted to Islam.
Posted by: Ronin at July 3, 2007 8:19 PM
I find it rather interesting that the British ARE at least making a big deal about this. We had Fort Dix and JFK, and they were relegated to the back of MSM's top priorities.
Posted by: Cinder at July 3, 2007 8:29 PM
To quote myself again from the other day:
It's those diabolical Quakers again!
OT: The Leftofascists are still climbing all over the Anvil. Of course I couldn't be happier.
Posted by: Foehammer at July 3, 2007 9:25 PM
From the article:
They had diverse backgrounds, coming from countries around the globe
Yes, they are a veritable broad strata of society.
Posted by: special_guest at July 3, 2007 9:45 PM
Ok Kufiri's the proff is in repent ... CONVERT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb93ruJ1DFo
CONVERT NOW!
Posted by: Amerike
Is this Nazeem's alter ego? Is just as dumb as her too. I saw that video and all I can say is these NUTBAGS have the NERVE to call us kaffir or whatever?!
Islam is completely HARAM!!!
No wonder their countries are awash in violence and misery.. which they now seek to spread to the rest of us like a bad virus.
As always, Brothers and Sisters: PUCK FIGSLAM!!!
Posted by: Allahfanculo at July 3, 2007 9:59 PM
OT: Looks like Digg just censored the article that had over 90 diggs at my site. It's been pulled out of their queue and looks like the fellow who Dugg it has been yanked. So much for Freedom of Speech -- I guess it only applies to one way of thinking.
Posted by: Foehammer at July 3, 2007 10:10 PM
>>I have noticed the BBC and the British authorities starting to use phrases such as "al-Qaeda inspired", or "some connection to al-Qaeda". No mention, of course, of what inspires al-Qaeda, or what the "connection" actually is!
Posted by: Paul
I have noticed this also, Paul.
It seems that al-qaeda is the new buzz-word for when they really mean muslim. Same-same.
Foe, you are doing a great job! And great stuff from Ronin and Sir Henry Morgan.
(I can't manage to post - technical difficulty - but I can read them.)
at July 3, 2007 10:13 PM
"They had diverse backgrounds, coming from countries around the globe, but all shared youth and worked in medicine."
THAT'S IT! Young doctors! Now it all makes sense.
at July 3, 2007 10:16 PM
@Gramfan: Thanks. I had to do a few bans today, so it's possible that your Australian IP # got caught in the mix with a wildcard ban accidentally. If you have trouble later on and tomorrow, I'll check your IP and see if that's the case.
Posted by: Foehammer at July 3, 2007 10:18 PM
"London's Chatham House think tank..."
-- from the article above, describing where the "analyst" in question, Bob Ayres, now works
Chatham House sounds impressive to some. To others, however, such as J. B. Kelly and Kenneth Minogue and Donald Watt, it summons up memories of pro-Arab (possibly because antisemitic) Arnold Toynbee, who ruled the roost and set the tone.
It was not an accident that the late Elie Kedourie titled one of his best books - and the one most relevant to the matter of Iraq today -"The Chatham House Version."
Judging by what I have read, and heard, coming from Rosemary Hollis, little has changed at Chatham House.
It raises an eyebrow. Or should.
Posted by: Hugh at July 3, 2007 10:27 PM
Thanks, FH!
Posted by: Gramfan at July 3, 2007 10:34 PM
I don't think it's Quakers at all.
I mean, come on, let's get real here.
It's the Southern Baptists.
Sheeez.
Posted by: Miss_Anthrope at July 3, 2007 10:44 PM
Wars are usually fought over resources. Pardon the oversimplifications but:
-The American Revolution was in large part about taxes.
-The War of 1812 was about trade restrictions with France.
-The Mexican American War was about low-cost labor and Texas.
-The Civil War was about low-cost labor.
-The Spanish American War was about seizing Spanish overseas territories.
-Pearl Harbor was about oil.
-The Middle East used to be about oil before it became about moms and dads.
We aren’t forced to take the Jihad seriously because there is no immediate threat to our resources. The game will change when our welfare states go broke and / or attacks start to hit our economies hard.
Until then, it is just easier for those holding leadership positions to pay geniuses like Bob Ayres and consider periodic Jihadist attacks to be acceptable.
at July 3, 2007 10:47 PM
So then, WHO ordered the press to use terms like 'Al Qaeda inspired'? Guess the press is controlled by the government after all?
As for dogging National Health Care, don't. I lived and ran a business in England for many years. I can tell you that it was GREAT going to the doctor without being 'pre-approved'. Not getting paperwork. Not fighting insurance companies when I needed care. Not paying for my prescriptions. Not worrying about if I was suddenly unemployed, that I would struggle to have ANY health insurance. Not getting sick and losing my home, etc. because I couldn't afford the 'deductables' and co-payments. Not worrying about not being able to get insurance because I had a 'pre-existing condition'.
We NEED National Health Care to protect us from greedy doctors, greedy insurers, greedy pharmaceuticals and cheap employers.
Seems the only folks that hate the idea of national health is the above mentioned and of course the rich, the welfare recepients and the illegal immigrants.
Posted by: The Goobs at July 3, 2007 10:48 PM
P.S. France has the best health care in the world and it's national health care. I think we're number 38??? In Europe, no matter where you travel around Europe, you can get care if you have national health care in your country.
Folks, I have NEVER been a fan of Michale more, but see SICKO. At least open your eyes to the possibility that we are being taken for idiots.
Not only are we getting substandard care we are also being cheated out of driving fuel efficient cars (once like FORD makes in Europe). Wonder who doesn't want us to get 600 miles to a tank of gas over here?
WE are being bled dry and you can't count on our bought off politicians to do anything to change it.
Posted by: The Goobs at July 3, 2007 10:57 PM
These doctors will have access to X Ray machines and the radioactive substances that are housed within them also chemicals and biological agents which in the wrong hands could be used to harm and not heal.
Posted by: Borg at July 3, 2007 11:01 PM
The Goobs- You left off the tort lawsuit lawyers.
Posted by: Borg at July 3, 2007 11:04 PM
Well at least they finally found something they all have in common (other than the dreaded islam connection that no one will mention).
The more I read on this site the more I feel we are doomed. I just don't get it!
Posted by: PissBeUponHim at July 3, 2007 11:05 PM
WHAT'S FUNNY IS THE POSTURING AND PRETENDING ANYONE WILL EVER FIGHT BACK.
IT'S IS WELL PASSED TIME TO BURN THEM OUT
at July 3, 2007 11:12 PM
Thanks for the kind words Gramfan, but I just couldn’t sit by and let Foe get jumped by that many trolls at one time. He didn’t need my help but I am a cranky old man and it does these old bones some good to bust a few heads now and again.
Posted by: Ronin at July 3, 2007 11:16 PM
KAOSKTRL,
I don’t know who you have been talking to but many of my military buddies both active and retired know the deal and if it goes bad they are ready. Don’t be fooled by the old dogs that are trapped in PC world. Our future lies with the younger officers and noncoms who are fresh from the fight and thanks to numerous tours understand Islam far better than their up line.
at July 3, 2007 11:24 PM
Like the ideology of Bush is bringing peace and prosperety to the ME, along with the ideology of the Judeo-Nazi in the professionally robbed lands.
at July 3, 2007 11:30 PM
sorry forgot to sign my comment:
Ex-lover of jesus and no lover of Judeo-Nazi
at July 3, 2007 11:33 PM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article2023024.ece
An al-Qaeda leader in Iraq boasted before last week’s failed bombings in London and Glasgow that his group was planning to attack British targets and that “those who cure you will kill you”, The Times has learnt.
The warning was delivered to Canon Andrew White, a senior British cleric working in Baghdad, and could be highly significant as the eight Muslims arrested in the wake of the failed plot are all members of the medical profession.
Canon White told The Times that he had passed the general warning, but not the specific words, to a senior official at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) in mid-April. A Foreign Office spokesman said last night that it was forwarding the actual words to the Metropolitan Police.
The Times also learnt yesterday that one of the suspects, the Iraqi doctor Bilal Abdulla, had links to radical Islamic groups, and that several of the eight suspects have now been linked to known extremist radicals listed on MI5’s data base. Canon White, who runs Baghdad’s only Anglican parish, said that he met the al-Qaeda leader on the fringes of a meeting about religious reconciliation held in Amman, the Jordanian capital.
“He talked to me about how they were going to destroy British and Americans. He told me that the plans were already made and they would soon be destroying the British. He said the people who cure you would kill you.”
at July 3, 2007 11:35 PM
Say what you want about Bush robbing Muslims but also look at countries like Dubai with in door skiing while Muslims eat one meal a day in the sahel, Somalia and other hell holes. Talk about thieves and misguided priorities. You find Muslims and you find other Muslims killing them or watching them die.
Posted by: Ronin at July 3, 2007 11:36 PM
The King has no close On! is the only way to describe how these experts describe the "things they have in common!"
Posted by: kwg1 at July 4, 2007 12:20 AM
These fools have there head up their ASS. That is why they can't see the enemy. Trouble is they put it there themselves because of there idealized outlook on themselves and humanity.
Notice when you talk to people you meet on this subject they don't want to believe it because they don't understand or know who the enemy is. I have begun showing how the Nazis were our enemy and Islam is no different.
Keep telling everyone you meet if the subject comes up who the enemy is. The public is in a fog and it is all important to clear the fog.
Posted by: Im.made.as.hell! at July 4, 2007 12:37 AM
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1183459189230&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Oh see how fast they act when thier children are being taught to kill thier own people.
It's not that they are being brainwashed to hate and to kill,it's who they are being told who the enemy is.
How is it that islam is the answer again?
It can bring peace HOW?
They can't play well with one another let alone "others."
What an immensly flawed and imperfect ideology.
Posted by: Dar al-harb at July 4, 2007 12:41 AM
Hey Progressive can you feel the wriggeling of those Dudas in your brain?
Posted by: Dar al-harb at July 4, 2007 1:00 AM
They all had read "Dr. Jekyll und Mr. Hyde"
Posted by: FreeSpeech at July 4, 2007 2:51 AM
Amir Taheri - "Prime Minister Gordon Brown keeps repeating that the attacks have nothing to do with Islam - but, at the same time, keeps inviting "Muslim community leaders" to Downing Street to discuss how to prevent attacks. If the attacks have nothing to do with Islam, why invite Muslim "leaders" rather than Buddhist monks?"
at July 4, 2007 3:10 AM
They spread out through the world and form cells and now the government dissects the whole stupid thing! They are common in all kinds of ways, they all are doctors, they all want to kill the infidels,, they all believe it is there duty to spread to everyland and convert others to islam or die!
These intel guys need a raise! ..cleaver...
Right after 9-11 President Bush said, "These people will become doctors, get into the system, umm,,, we must not habor them.." uh, huh...' now they don't want to use profile.. what the ..every doctor I get Dr. Hussain to now Dr.Mohammed himself! It is soooo.........strange!
at July 4, 2007 3:34 AM
"LONDON - They had diverse backgrounds, coming from countries around the globe, but all shared youth and worked in medicine. They also had a common goal, authorities suspect: to bring havoc and death to the heart of Britain"
"authorities suspect". Oh yeah the authorities suspect, do they ? They found bombs and still they "suspect" ? WTH is wrong with the MSM ?
Posted by: arjun.sevak at July 4, 2007 3:36 AM
Good to hear Ronin, Any chance of doing in the USA what you were tasked with in the Iraq? Removing the regime and turn the country back over to the people/ seems we have an entrenched problem,Ive lived my entire life under Ted Kennedy Arlen Specter Etal..I need a change.
Posted by: KAOSKTRL at July 4, 2007 4:05 AM
Progressive: I like the fact you use the word love. I don't think you meant ex-lover of Jesus.
I dissagree Bush brought this to the ME it is even people thinking like you. The ME can become what it wants to be soon as people can be at peace with themselfs and not be ruled by a dictator. Of all the three you mention, I kind of believe you do not have a problem with Nazi!?
No lover of Judeo-Nazi, sounds like you were.? Or which is it? You do not love Judeo's and Jesus is what you are saying. Then that would explain how you can use the word love. You people call him a prophet but turn your back on him. You recognize prophet Mohammed because He is powerfull almighty, bloodthirtsy, child molester! I have NEVER heard anyone say they Love Mohammed! Can you say that?
You think you can pick and choose Jesus when you want? It is ideology if muslims 'think' they see evil in someone they can just kill them! When it is their evil! What a 'religion!'
To see other women that dress a certain way or act vain, does not mean all women are like that. You said, you will run back to the queran and read it. That is your security? You have no inner strength? I believe you do. I never watched a porno movie in my life nor do I choose to. Or be with anyone. I have been like that over 20 years. I must be a freak.? huh? I have friends that all have different life styles. I still love them!
POEM: WHO WOULD HAVE WHO
God is the one who is a great believer
To beable to believe in us when evil
could surpass anyone of us
We say it is hard to believe in God
But what is there to believe in us
at July 4, 2007 4:24 AM
SOME common ideology?
The media seem to have lost their backbones over the last decade. What ever happened to real journalism? Oh I forgot, multiculturalism.
Posted by: DaveMate at July 4, 2007 6:06 AM
Al Bebeceera Reporter Released: No suntan!
http://sheikyermami.com/2007/07/04/al-bebeceera-reporter-released/
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at July 4, 2007 6:27 AM
Ameriki wrote:
"Ok Kufiri's the proff is in repent ... CONVERT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb93ruJ1DFo
CONVERT NOW!
Posted by: Ameriki"
Good lord, what a piece of Burukaka. So see the film yourselves and laugh. Just about as believable as the face of Jesus showing up on a piece of toast. Oh well, it is, after all, Islam - another piece of false crap from a crappy false religion.
Posted by: bonncaruso at July 4, 2007 6:29 AM
I'm sure all the muslims doctor I've had, all came from some where else too! zeech.....
Which I need to ask the question again...
"How did Fox News know it was bin-laden when the planes hit?" some one here replied back and said we all knew that! Then why are people sooooooo
surprised about these doctors?!! zeech.....
President Bush said, it said in bin's manuel they will work their way into our system, doctors, ect. They are doing a good job! People though, noooooo.....! zeeech...!
Is anyone really surprised? I am surprised I was the only one who didn't know, oh, yah, and Bush that it was bin-laden. Yet eveyone is freakin at this?! Not really, they are! Fox news!
at July 4, 2007 6:34 AM
Posted by: profitsbeard
One more diverse group of jihadist Islamic imperialists.
They came from diverse countries.
Spoke diverse languages.
Practiced diverse medical speacialties.
---------------------------------------
Yup. That is why we must celebrate diversity. /s
at July 4, 2007 7:30 AM
The "common ideology" is that they all believe that Muhammad was a real prophet. There! I said it!
I know that by saying that many in here will have their jaws dropped all the way to China, but that is me. I like saying the things other people never thought about!!
/obvious
at July 4, 2007 7:37 AM
I'll be shopping in a head scarf before the powers that be figure out we've been taken over. Sometimes I wonder if they are in on it...surely they can't all be this blind.
Posted by: PLCinTEXAS at July 4, 2007 7:39 AM
Given Al Qaeda's interest in aviation attacks, I'd be concerned about Muslim airline pilots. Fortunately there are not likely very many in "Infidel" airlines.
Posted by: Moe Foe at July 4, 2007 5:32 PM
Hmm, Let me think....
Had anyone heard of "Dr Zakir Naik" from Bombay in this whole Doctors Game....
Posted by: Proud of being takfir at July 4, 2007 8:04 PM
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