When was the last time an abortion doctor was shot? Now lets see, when was the last time someone was murdered in the name of Islam? Cant go a day or 2 without that happening.

Posted by: Elric66 at July 13, 2007 8:04 PM

The interviewer, Avi Lewis, is indeed ignorant, and arrogant, with the childish mind of an 11 year old at the same time.

It's the "everything is a phobia" mentality of people like this, who are supporting the cause of Islam, it's ideology, and witless about it all.

Posted by: sounder at July 13, 2007 8:05 PM

Trust me, Hirsi...we don't confuse them...there's NO possibility of comparison whatsoever.
Those mentalities who try that lame angle are the same ones whose allies also lamely try to compare a wall designed to keep invaders out (like our border) with one designed to maliciously keep people IN, and shoot anyone trying to escape (like berlin had).
(see "Unholy Alliance" & Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com)

Those mental midgets aren't fooling anyone save that of sating their own cronies appetite for pap.

"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is NO VICE... moderation in the pursuit of justice is NO VIRTUE."

Posted by: jcom972 at July 13, 2007 8:09 PM

She's - so - fine...

Ah...

Posted by: Surak at July 13, 2007 8:21 PM

No confusion whatsoever.

She is so far above this "Avi" idiot it's not funny.

Posted by: darcy at July 13, 2007 8:23 PM

This guy Lewis is a cliche. He's a bumper-sticker guy: "Homophobia is rampant!", "Islamophobia", etc. His Hustle is phony.

Van McCoy's Hustle is real-and good.

Posted by: Frank at July 13, 2007 8:27 PM

Muslims are under siege!!!!!!!!!

God, what a retard

Now the elections were stolen!!!!

Posted by: Elric66 at July 13, 2007 8:31 PM

This guy Lewis is unbelievable. I've never see a more pointedly biased and elitist interviewer. He smiles and laughs to himself so as to think that he knows he's right and that America is somehow not the greatest democracy (a republic, Avi) because of a single contested election? He's absurd.

She really stings him at the end when she points out, "You have the luxury of growing up in freedom and therefore can spit on freedom. I have been to many places that aren't anywhere near to what America is."

The upward mobility in America vs. any other nation in the world is so great that it is absolutely absurd not to recognize this. This has never meant it was EASY to make it. The point is that it's possible here and next to impossible in other places.

I've never seen an interviewer more arrogant than this guy. She could have really burned him by adamantly asking for one example of muslims in the US being under siege. You hear this all the time and there are ZERO examples, as all of us here well know. Crazy.

Posted by: Palamas at July 13, 2007 8:41 PM

She was much more civil than I would have been. It really makes me wonder who is a more dangerous enemy, Islam or liberal elitists.

Posted by: Elric66 at July 13, 2007 8:45 PM

Avi Lewis... what do you expect from a guy that is married to the woman who wrote "No Logo" Naomi Klein. It is an insult to the rest of us Canadians to have this guy as a citizen. Oh well, what can you do.

Posted by: Sheik Canuck (swt) at July 13, 2007 8:51 PM

Palamas:
I've never seen an interviewer more arrogant than this guy. She could have really burned him by adamantly asking for one example of muslims in the US being under siege. You hear this all the time and there are ZERO examples, as all of us here well know. Crazy.

Absolutely right. Parallels the UK.
After New London bombings and Glagow Airport Jeep on fire, you saw newspaper headlines, "Muslims fear backlash".

What backlash? There wasnt even a backlash after 7/7 in 2005.. The British are remarkably tolerant. Muslim fears are phantom.
(I think they know this, it is just propaganda designed to stop legimate anger with them in the tracks). All psychological.

Posted by: UK Infidel Lover at July 13, 2007 8:51 PM

Avi Lewis... what do you expect from a guy that is married to the woman who wrote "No Logo" Naomi Klein. It is an insult to the rest of us Canadians to have this guy as a citizen. Oh well, what can you do.

Posted by: Sheik Canuck (swt) at July 13, 2007 8:52 PM

Avi Lewis... what do you expect from a guy that is married to the woman who wrote "No Logo" Naomi Klein. It is an insult to the rest of us Canadians to have this guy as a citizen. Oh well, what can you do.

Posted by: Sheik Canuck (swt) at July 13, 2007 8:52 PM

sorry for the repeat posts....

Posted by: Sheik Canuck (swt) at July 13, 2007 8:54 PM

Avi Lewis,
the useful fool,
the idiot who can't see
that he's a tool of the enemy.

Pray for his soul as it descends
and plunges him into demons and darkness.

Like a wheel, he turns and turns
and never knows that those he defends
will turn on him, as their god demands
that the kafir Avi Lewis burn for eternity.

Avi is a fool and a tool of the enemy.

Posted by: the poetess at July 13, 2007 8:55 PM

The interviewer, Avi Lewis is about as dumb, biased and clueless as a politically correct talk shop wanker can be.

He fits the picture of the deliberately stupid, unwitting Islam-supporter, who would never question Islam as a violent, totalitarian ideology, but believes as a ‘religion’- Islam is above critique. For Avi Lewis, the US government is the enemy.

Sad that the MSM is stuffed with these types.

http://www.cbc.ca/onthemap/fullpage.php?id=87

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/07/12/al-schmaeda-coming-to-get-you/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at July 13, 2007 8:55 PM

The guy had the nerve to call her observation that anyone in America has an opportunity to succeed "cliches" when all his condemnations of America and "Islamophobes" were standard cliches right of the liberal dhimmi play book.

Posted by: Elric66 at July 13, 2007 8:59 PM

This guy Lewis subtly tries to knife Hirsi Ali with the "privileged" label. She was part of an "elite family" me arse. He's a creep.

I grew up over a Bar-and-Grill on Jamaica Avenue in Queens-across from a factory. But I'll bet my life was paradise compared to this woman Hirsi Ali's "elite" status in Somalia. However, I would not be surprised if Lewis has been very privileged in his life. He's projecting his guilt? (Nice try with the class crap, Lewis.)

Something is wrong with Lewis. My hunch is that his views are related to some sexual problem and that's what is talking in his views on this and other matters.

Posted by: Frank at July 13, 2007 9:13 PM

The guy reminded me of Olberman without the rage and spittle.

Posted by: Elric66 at July 13, 2007 9:20 PM

This guy needs to file a report from Mogadishu or Al Maka, preferably a long term assignment. What a cretin. What is sickening is to think of all the saps nodding their heads after his witless remarks. He is the perfect embodiment of the threat from the Left, just on the heels of the Islamic threat. And she has stood down both!

I hope to see more of Ms Ali in the future. She speaks from the heart and that much shoud be evident to anyone. (Well, almost anyone).

Posted by: lycaste at July 13, 2007 9:33 PM

Who can help it? The liberal press needs to prove that the religious right is intolerant and the abortion protests and clinic blockades give them all the footage they need.

We don't confuse the two and neither does our MSM, but they have a prepared script and the evil terrorist just doesn't have a part unless (of course!) his name is Timothy McVeigh.

Posted by: PMK at July 13, 2007 9:36 PM

but but but the oklahoma bomber was a white american. but but but more cars produced by america kill more people than middle eastern or south asian freedom fighters. but but but vietnam. but but but atom bomb dropped on japan.

i hate liberals. where did these maggots come from?

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at July 13, 2007 9:40 PM

Elric66 posted:
"The guy had the nerve to call her observation that anyone in America has an opportunity to succeed "cliches" when all his condemnations of America and "Islamophobes" were standard cliches right of the liberal dhimmi play book."

Ain't that a fact. This guy is playing to the "educated" effete elite bored-college-kid Westerner who admires novelty for novelty's sake. If you can take a statement from someone and point out that it is similar to what some "redneck rightist" may have said once... that's all it takes to discredit someone.

Never mind the truth behind the statement, or the veracity of the person making the statement. Ignore the fact that she (as she pointed out) has lived in sick and frightening detail everything she speaks against, and has lived in grateful wonder everything she speaks for.

Just play up some trivia here, and downplay some agony there, affect a bit of "I've heard this before" ennui, and voila! She, and her message, are marginalized. (he hopes)

I wonder if he has allowed himself to realize how thoroughly he was outclassed. How that slender, soft-spoken willow of a woman is deeper, broader and light years more profound than he.

Posted by: freedomschool at July 13, 2007 9:45 PM

I dont know Leon. I really hate calling them liberal, they arent liberal. They are more socialist and stalinist than liberal. Liberals believe in freedom, democracy, and anything of Western value. If the West falls to Islam it wont be because of the strength of Islam. It will be because of these so called liberals sold their souls to betray us all.

Posted by: Elric66 at July 13, 2007 9:48 PM

The background information on Hirsi Ali written on that page certainly wasn't very objective.

Posted by: Cheeky Human at July 13, 2007 9:53 PM

I haven't seen it mentioned yet on JWatch so.. the happy news being reported is.. medical reports surfacing now say that [Jabba-The-Hut] Arafart died of AIDS.

hehehe.. couldn't have happened to a nicer guy ;-)

Posted by: Allahfanculo at July 13, 2007 9:54 PM

Arafat died of AIDS. LOL

You do know it was the jooosss that gave it to him, dont you? ;-)

Posted by: Elric66 at July 13, 2007 9:58 PM

PS.. THEY jump up and down for joy when innocent people jump out of burning buildings after a terrorist attack.. THEY hand out candy in celebration of such attacks..

SO HELL YEAH I will gladly engage in a luscious bit of SCHADENFREUDE!!

So HOW exactly DID the islamo-fascist Arafart catch his Big Disease with a Little Name?!

I thought they are so HOLY over there and WE are the licentious and "corrupt" West.

Yeah, right. He probably caught if from a monkey or from a goat.

May he roast in Hell next to his filthy idol mahomet [pork be upon it].. just as depicted in Dante's Inferno.

Yes, there are those I'll gladly wish the WORTS of things on.. moslems who attack us.. they deserve whatever they get.

They do NOT deserve our money, our aid nor our compassion. EVER.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at July 13, 2007 10:02 PM

Human beings are seriously flawed. If so many human beings raised in the Christian faith, ostensibly following the example of Jesus Christ, could go so wrong - then just imagine what could happen to human beings raised on the example of Muhammad?

It's a scary thought. And we've seen the real world consequences.

But evidently there are 2 sorts of Muslims - those (largely cultural Muslims) raised on (and clinging to) the example of the Mecca Muhammad and those enamored with the example of the Medina Muhammad.

Maybe in order to bring about a real Islamic reformation, we need to force a very public schism between the followers of those two historical periods in Muhammad's life? Maybe we need to force Muslims to declare their loyalty to one of the 2 radically different Muhammad's - the Meccan Mo vs. the Medina Mo!

Imagine a future scenario in which we meet a Muslim and we inquire -

"You're a Muslim? Really? What kind of Muslim?
Are you a Meccan Muhammaden or are you a Medinan Muhammaden?"

Brainstorming here...

Posted by: Caroline at July 13, 2007 10:02 PM

True Muslims are the Media Muslims since the Medina verses abrogate the Meccan verses.

Posted by: Elric66 at July 13, 2007 10:07 PM

Avi Lewis represents the old social democrats in Canada. He's their poster boy, even though they only get 10% of the vote in elections. He represents a viewpoint that is dying in Canada and can only hang on with the help of national government TV/Radio.

He seems himself as a leftist crusader, but in reality he is just another small minded smug Canadian who thinks he is good because he believes in justice, however like most Canadians he doesn't really engage the problems of the world and get his hands dirty.

It is easy to avoid wrong if you never try to do any good. The problem is that Canadians don't do much good in the world any more.

BTW, I am a Canadian. There is hope for our country if the Conservatives can break through and win a majority government. I'm all for dumping the Eastern liberal part of the country and forming a new republic of Western Canada. We'd be a much more useful country.

Posted by: James Martel at July 13, 2007 10:19 PM

"You're a Muslim? Really? What kind of Muslim?
Are you a Meccan Muhammaden or are you a Medinan Muhammaden?"

Brainstorming here...

Posted by: Caroline

I'm done with the distinctions. They're all a bunch of jihadists. We had collective guilt for Germans and Japanese and I don't see why the moslems are getting a pass.

They've only been at it for over 1300 years. For some reason the World wishes to ignore the facts as much as they smack us in the face.

Or is there distinction between Berlin Nazis and Munich Nazis? Me, I've never heard of such a thing. The SS massacred the SA. Does that make the SA 'nicer'?

I don't think so, do you?

My 5¢ to the brainstorm, Caroline. Sorry to e so harsh but I operate from a purely analytical factual perspective.

Just because we WANT moslems to be nice.. we WANT to find the humanity in them.. we simply CANNOT believe they are the way they are if WE weren't somehow responsable for their homicidal behaviour, right?

WRONG!!

We MUST let go of our wishful at best and PC at worst - thinking.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at July 13, 2007 10:27 PM

Hirsi Ali - Hirsi Ali - Hirsi Ali!!

My apologies if I am being overly enthusiastic but this woman is absolutely superb and she speaks with such authority born of hard experience! Wonder if she has any plans for the presidency as we need a million more just like her. Thanks, Robert, for posting this. Hearing her speak is definitely a real cure for an occasional pessimistic attitude born of an over abundance moron leaders.

Posted by: descendantofacrusader at July 13, 2007 10:43 PM

Christianity versus Islam, in a nutshell.

When Christians act up, it in SPITE of Christianity, not BECAUSE of it. When muslims act up it is BECAUSE of Islam, not in SPITE of it.

Posted by: duh_swami at July 13, 2007 10:55 PM

this is the crap that has taken over the elites in Western society, leftist elites who think they are so much better than anyone else. they are the biggest hypercrites, this Lewis would be unemployed if he worked for a regular TV station without gov't handouts.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at July 13, 2007 11:03 PM

I love Ayaan when she says "You grew up in a democracy and you can spit on freedom..." Avi Lewis SUCKS, and not in a good way.

Posted by: desertdawg29palms at July 13, 2007 11:11 PM

I love Ayaan when she says "You grew up in a democracy and you can spit on freedom..." Avi Lewis SUCKS, and not in a good way.

Posted by: desertdawg29palms at July 13, 2007 11:12 PM

This man Lewis is beyond parody.

Posted by: Lepanto at July 13, 2007 11:12 PM

I wish Hirsi Ali would come to Massachusetts and and run against the Kennedy blob or the human manniquin, Kerry. Hands down she turned this Avi psycho into a rodent. She has a knack for melting phonies and there are no bigger phonies than Kerry and Kennedy. I would love to see her across from a CAIR character like Doggie Hooper and watch him sweat and melt under the camera. She's the best thing that happened to America for a long time. I'm always inspired when I watch her tell the truth about Islam.

Posted by: Briars at July 13, 2007 11:13 PM

Kudos to Ayaan Hirsi Ali for holding her own and showing how moral equivalence is a lie. I have an Iranian friend who happens to be gay. As he so eloquently put it: In the US he might be screamed at and called a "faggot" while in Iran he would be executed. The first is an example of individual bigotry while the second is a matter of official policy. The is no moral equivalence.

Posted by: Provoslavni at July 13, 2007 11:16 PM

"I've never seen an interviewer more arrogant than this guy." Posted by: Palamas

Welcome to the CBC. Smug, arrogant leftists, almost to a one (but not Rex Murphy).

Anti-American, pro-Islam, anti-Christian, pro-Islam, anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian, pro-Hezbullah, pro-Hamas, pro-Islam.

They sneer when they say "George Bush". They pronounce Islam "ISS!-lawhm".

It got worse after 9/11. Much, much worse.

The CBC propaganda on behalf of Islam has done more than almost anything else (except terrorism, of course) to turn me off Islam.

Avi Lewis: so representative of the CBC.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali was brilliant, as ever.

Posted by: Josephine at July 13, 2007 11:16 PM

Christianity versus Islam, in a nutshell.

When Christians act up, it in SPITE of Christianity, not BECAUSE of it. When muslims act up it is BECAUSE of Islam, not in SPITE of it.
Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 13, 2007 10:55 PM

So true. Extremist Christians go against the teachings of Jesus, Extremist Muslims emulate the teachings of Mo-bomb-ed.

Posted by: Elric66 at July 13, 2007 11:17 PM

Her book Infidel was great but she is still hoping for an enlightment of islam. I hope it can change,but from my reading it doesn't seem possible.

Posted by: Borg at July 13, 2007 11:23 PM

Hirsi Ali - Hirsi Ali - Hirsi Ali!!
My apologies if I am being overly enthusiastic but this woman is absolutely superb and she speaks with such authority born of hard experience! Wonder if she has any plans for the presidency, as we need a million more just like her. Thanks, Robert, for posting this. Hearing her speak is definitely a real cure for an occasional pessimistic attitude born of an over abundance moron leaders.
Posted by: descendantofacrusader

Sorry, but if you are talking about the Presidency of the United States of America, the Constitution clear prohibits non-natives. And for those of you who have started thinking about making an Amendment to it, just think of “King” George Sorros being free to use his MoveOn.org group and his wealth to leverage for the position.

I’d settle for her being in a cabinet position of Secretary of State, with an administration that isn’t beholden to House of Saud or House of Chomsky. Or even perhaps an Undersecretary Hirsi Ali with a Secretary of State Robert Spencer. 

Posted by: senor doeboy at July 13, 2007 11:24 PM

I posted a pro-Hirshi comment at the CBC web-site. It didn't appear. Meanwhile, every comment registered is either anti-Hirshi or ambivalent.

Posted by: Cornelius at July 13, 2007 11:30 PM

I'm glad he brought up all the usual islam-apologist BS, so that she could (very effectively) shoot it down. That's what an interviewer is meant to do, whatever their personal viewpoint is: challenge the interviewee.

We can only benefit from opportunities for Hirsi Ali to make her points and the public to listen and learn.

Posted by: Lili at July 13, 2007 11:35 PM

I'm reading her memoir right now. It's strange that he says she's from an "elite" "privileged" class... she comes from a very respectable CLAN in Somalia. But that has nothing to do with "privilege" because her father opposed the government and they lived like refugess all the time. Sometimes they had up to 30 family members sharing a tiny apartment in Kenya when Somalia broke out in a bloodbath.

I highly recommend her book. It's a fast, absorbing read and very eye-opening about different Muslims: the paganistic Somalians, the arrogant and cruel Saudis, etc... One thing they all have in common: they treat women like dirt.

Posted by: atheling at July 13, 2007 11:49 PM

The last abortion doctor was shot in 1998. So much for THAT idea.

The interviewer obviously knows absolutely nothing about America. While Hirsi Ali is forced to use some cliches and simplify things for time's sake, what she says is very true. The Canadian ultra-leftist is a loon of the highest order, and obviously has never lived in America, and it's likely he doesn't even know any Americans.

Posted by: Jonas Salk at July 14, 2007 1:07 AM

He probably only knows the self loathing kind. Postmodern liberals associate like flies on dung.

Posted by: atheling at July 14, 2007 1:14 AM

'abortion protests and clinic blockades '- from a posting above:

Are you serious? Is this still going on?

*
This lefty nutbag is really dumber than a sack full of bricks. But he didn't forget to describe her as 'privileged' or ''upper class'- neither did he mention that she needs 4 body-guards 24/7. The same goes for Geert Wilders in Holland:

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/07/13/dutch-lawmaker-jail-women-who-wear-burqas/

* Of course the Associated Press has to smear the courageous Geert Wilders as a ‘right wing’ lawmaker, as if the misogynistic black sack was some kind of fashion statement that ‘liberates’ women. But the AP-turd who wrote this simply presents a spitting image of our degenerated society. That Geert Wilders lives in hiding and must fear for his life because of Muhammedan fanatics that invaded his homeland is not mentioned.

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at July 14, 2007 1:41 AM

Lewis is like a snotty child with a badminton racquet facing Venus Williams.

Ace. Ace. Ace. Ace. Ace.

Game.

A purulent and pathetic pack of pabulum and passe cliches.

Versus one of the beacons of human liberty in the modern world.

Set. Match.

Thankfully the good one's are on the right side.

Posted by: profitsbeard at July 14, 2007 2:21 AM

I enjoyed that, especially when she said, "you were born with freedom so you're free to spit on it" Nice stinging comment, and Mr. Lewis deserved that embarasement, unfortunately I don't think he was smart enough to know he was stung.

Posted by: The fanatic at July 14, 2007 2:45 AM

He sure was a fatuous twit, wasn't he?

He is lucky that she is very ladylike. Ann Coulter would have eaten him alive.

Posted by: atheling at July 14, 2007 2:48 AM

I'll go with the statement above:

...a "cartoonishly anti-American Canadian, "a man in equal parts hysterical, ignorant, and arrogant.

... up to a point. I have questions about characterizing the TV person as a man.

It is a real delight to watch Ali's quiet, confident intelligence observing the lies and idiocy presented to her as if they were seriously believed by the speaker.

(The thing about falsehoods is that they are rarely actually really believed by the people who claim to believe them. Psychologically, a falsehood is impossible to believe in any meaningful sense -- being based neither on accurate observation nor on logically valid thinking.

The shallow mind can convince itself that it believes a falsehood, up to a point, but only up to a point. Until the mind is iretrievably damaged, there is someplace deep inside that knows that it is either lying or talking nonsense.)

The laughter in her eyes is unmistakable. As is the polite but damning condemnation in her gentle voice.

She appears as if addressing an evil but reformable child.

Her presence among us gives us much to be grateful for.

Posted by: joeblough at July 14, 2007 3:53 AM

Oh what an interview. I'm not Canadian but halfway I start to cringe at the ineptitude of the wee lad. And that smug grin on his face.

Easy meat for someone as cool as Hirsi Ali.

Talk about a mis match.

And that final put down about "being able to spit on democracy"

I swear the wee Canuck shat his pants. Dribbling down his left leg he quickly wraps up the interview.

Final thought. Oh, she's very sweet isn't she. Lovely smile. Lovely face.

Lovely lovely lovely.

Posted by: ewha1 at July 14, 2007 4:20 AM

"You grew up in freedom so you can spit on freedom"; I'm still grinning from that one.

Posted by: RuyDiaz at July 14, 2007 6:08 AM

Oh my goodness! She was absolutely MAGNIFICENT!

I am so thankful she is an American, we are blessed!

Hirsi, if you run for a Senate office, you will win hands down. Do it! We need you there!

I cannot think of anyone on earth I admire more. And me, an "extremist" Christian!

Posted by: Kay at July 14, 2007 6:17 AM

atheling, l think that Hirsi Ali is better than Ann Colter, and l do like Ann Colter. Hirsi Ali is so charming and gracious when she was cutting up this Lewis character to shreads, that he did not know he was just thumped and shown to be the imbicile that he is. LOL

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at July 14, 2007 6:30 AM

If he thinks "homophobia" is rampant, then what would he call Islamic terrorism?

Posted by: Elric66 at July 14, 2007 6:44 AM

The thing that got me most was him comparing "Islamophobia" to antisemitism. What a tool.

Posted by: Elric66 at July 14, 2007 6:45 AM

(The thing about falsehoods is that they are rarely actually really believed by the people who claim to believe them. Psychologically, a falsehood is impossible to believe in any meaningful sense -- being based neither on accurate observation nor on logically valid thinking.
The shallow mind can convince itself that it believes a falsehood, up to a point, but only up to a point. Until the mind is iretrievably damaged, there is someplace deep inside that knows that it is either lying or talking nonsense.)

Joe Blough: Who said this? It's a priceless insight into perverse denial.

Posted by: johndoe at July 14, 2007 7:39 AM

Avi Lewis is a preening, posturing, arrogant, incompetent fool. (Sorry for the ad hominem...I'm just fed up with that uneducated, reckless, and irresponsible idiot). That rabidly pro-Islamic and fanatically anti-western PC nut is quite willing to flush his own and everyone else's human rights down the toilet in order to promote his suicidal views. Unfortunately, Canadians are required by law to pay for the public broadcasting (via CBC) of his blind and frankly propagandistic Pro-Islamic views. The hatchet-job on Hirsi Ali in their "write- up" (at the link in Robert's post) is most disgusting.

Caroline,

The only significant difference between Meccan Muhammad and Medinan Muhammad is that the latter had "iron" (57:25) and the former did not (yet). If you read through the Meccan verses you will see that Allah's policy is to send a Messenger that must be obeyed...he gives people time to accept the message and submit, but after their time is up, he brings down the sword to wipe out the disbelievers "as a field that is reaped". (This is aside from the fact that about one-third to half of all Meccan verses involve insults, hatred, or threat of eternal torture and punishment against the disbelievers. The so-called peaceful Meccan verses talk of multiple genocides carried out by Allah, or by believers fighting in his cause, against those who disbelieved or expressed disbelief publicly. It is clear that the policy given to Muhammad during the Meccan phase was essentially 'bear with them for now Muhammad, for they will come to know.' It is no small coincidence that Muhammad received the order to fight once he attained sufficient power. Meccan Muhammad's was not a peaceful policy; it was a Machiavellian policy of partly concealing one's physical, social, and psychological preparation for all-out warfare against the people who put up with his b.s. for ten years.

Posted by: Khaybar Oasis at July 14, 2007 9:07 AM

We canadians are forced to pay for this garbage. Lewis is living off of my hard earned money. Can there be anything more unjust about that? Everyday in my prayers, I pray that the CBC is defunded and never again will Canada be subjected to elitist morons like this.

Posted by: shmujew at July 14, 2007 10:53 AM

But, but...Christians. With their prayers and churches.

What an a$$wipe. "They shoot abortion doctors", sounds like we shoot all abortion doctors.
To our shame, how many abortions are performed in the US a year?
http://www.euthanasia.com/usstat.html

Well, the "shooters" are doing a miserable job of it.
/sarcasm

Posted by: interestinconundrum at July 14, 2007 12:07 PM

She is fabulous! There's a role model for girls and women.

Posted by: Abscedere at July 14, 2007 1:57 PM

Hirsi Ali: You Go Girl! You Are Great!

Posted by: alexon at July 14, 2007 4:24 PM

As a person who considers him left wing liberal and a loyal jihadwatch reader, a few points. First there is no contradiction between what is called "left-wing" in America and agreeing wholehearty with just about I read posted on this site. The threat that we face from radical Islam is a threat to any thinking person who values freedom. Although I suspect I would disagree with many who post here on many issues, my commitment to their freedom of expression (and hopefully their reciprocal view to allow me my rights as well) is near absolute. If we face a war with the radical Islamists of the world, then let us not start the in-fighting among ourselves. We should be united against this threat and stand shoulder to shoulder with anyone who recognizes the danger that we face. Second, having said that I couldn’t agree more with the postings here, not only was that man a totaly obnoxious ignorant idiot, but as remarked often here, his lack of brains and analysis was so sharply contrasted by her calm controlled response. Rarely have I seen an interview where one side so overwhelmingly has a monopoly on virtue and the other so bereft of sense. It was painful to watch because the man was a walking stereotype of what every conservative person thinks left wing people think about this country. I guess what I am saying to those who have correctly pointed out what an ass this guy is, consider some over the top conservative who goes beyond what you would agree with and then shudder as you watch lefties point and say “See that is what the right wing believes.” Don’t judge millions of Americans who are liberals by this cretin. Finally what a great line she delivered at the end to that fool. Perfect!

Posted by: esquared at July 14, 2007 5:49 PM

Avi Lewis is the typical smug,arrogant,elite,talking-head at the CBC that also tries to play the defender of Social Justice for the poor.
Except he's the son of a wealthy,powerful,white Liberal thinker who paid for Avi's Elite Education at the Upper Canada College where very few non-whites attend or can even afford to go there.
Stephen Lewis is his Dad and HE makes a living flying around the world in a pollution causing Jet to report back to us over all the injustices
or oppression by those evil Americans ,plus Daddy warbucks (Stephen) finally noticed the AIDS crisis in Africa only because it hit the North American gay-male white community and it became a hot-button issue for votes during campaigns .

Avi Lewis should have been arrested under our hate-laws because his ignorance of the Death-sentence under Sharia Law for an Apostate (x-muslim or blasphemer Muslim deemed insulting Islam) means he used this CBC show to re-enforce the call by the Islamists to kill her , Lewis promoted hatred against an Identifiable group
by Race or Religion or lack of religion.

For him to sit there and laugh at her for expressing an opinion based on actually experiencing Islam as a Female was so insulting to all the females that have died from Honour Killings and were raped by older husbands in a forced Marriage while these men use Muhammed as the example to justify sex with a child , but lets keep in mind that this is the CBC and rarely do the Suits in power care about the Truth or researching the story for actual Facts before the final cut to be Aired Nation wide.

The CBC brought in a new rule to edit reports about Terrorism and told staff to avoid linking the word Muslim or Islam to the word Terrorism or Terrorists , even the archives for 9/11 report the attack as hijacked planes that collided with office buildings or crashed when overpowered by passengers that stormed the cockpit.

In 1985 there were 240 Canadian civilians slaughtered by Sikh terrorist based in British Columbia that plotted to bomb 2 Planes that left canada , one plane got delayed in Japan and the bomb killed Japanese baggage handlers when the timer set the bomb off that with hidden in a suitcase but the 747 wasn't so lucky because it was at 35'000 feet doing over 500 mph when it blew up over the Atlantic .
The CBC will not use the "S" word to report on the mass murder of civilians during a non-War period , and today we have the "M" word purged from any factual reports on Terrorism by those Exalting their Religion as the reason for slaughtering civilians as a favour to their God.

When Canada has its Pearl Harbour within our borders we will see the exact idiots at the CBC blame the RCMP and Governments for not connecting the dots to predict and stop the event, there will be a Truth.Org set up to link Bush and Israel to justify oppressing Palestinians and invading Countries for their Oil.
Today's reporters only need to load the standard news Template onto their PC so they merely insert the Date/Place/Group and fire it off to the Presses for Print , it's like the email money scams from Nigeria where the Names change but the Letter is identical for the $25 million needed to be transfered out of the Country.

Posted by: ala-sux at July 14, 2007 6:38 PM

esquared posted:
"...It was painful to watch because the man was a walking stereotype of what every conservative person thinks left wing people think about this country. I guess what I am saying to those who have correctly pointed out what an ass this guy is, consider some over the top conservative who goes beyond what you would agree with and then shudder as you watch lefties point and say “See that is what the right wing believes.” Don’t judge millions of Americans who are liberals by this cretin. Finally what a great line she delivered at the end to that fool. Perfect!"

You'll get no argument from me. For every Avi, there's a Dinesh or, more recently, Pat Buchanan trying to find some common ground between fundie Muslims and fundie Christians.(Gee, fellas, we all hate gays, right?)

Posted by: freedomschool at July 14, 2007 6:48 PM

the interviewer is a robot, a cartoon character.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at July 14, 2007 9:30 PM

how many abortion doctors are shot each year compared to islamic violence against non muslims. we need to start investigating these socialist "news" presenters nad maybe find so much crap on them they back off. CNN is in my home town and i'm gonna start a little PI work and egt these socialists off our street, (legally of course)

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at July 14, 2007 9:34 PM

how many abortion doctors are shot each year compared to islamic violence against non muslims. we need to start investigating these socialist "news" presenters nad maybe find so much crap on them they back off. CNN is in my home town and i'm gonna start a little P.I work and get these socialists off our street, (legally of course)

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at July 14, 2007 9:35 PM

Am I correct in thinking that 5 abortion doctors have been shot in the US in the last 34 years?
It doesn’t really compare with September 11th, does it?

Posted by: Odyessus at July 15, 2007 7:27 AM

Do you know that canadians pay 1 billion dollars each year to prop up the CBC?

Posted by: shmujew at July 15, 2007 11:17 AM

I'm late to this, but after finally seeing it, I think it was brilliant of her to point out to him that having not lived in countries like Somalia, it's easy for him to spit on freedom. He started the segment by claiming that he wouldn't let claims of there being no Islamophobia get away, and she nuked him there as well.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 16, 2007 12:59 AM

...Ms Ali escaped Islam...and is much happier for doing so....the majority of those wanting to leave Islam are women....perhaps they have good reason to want to leave....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at July 16, 2007 6:15 AM

Let's see if we can get Avi Lewis to convert to Islam (wouldn't this guy just make a terrific Muslim!!). Then we truly would have legitimate grounds for eliminating this disingenuously smarmy, vile, snickering SOB.

However, in spectacular contrast, Ms. Ali was as enchanting as ever!! But I think it is a shame she didn't see her creepy interviewer's rhetorical curveballs coming, as I think she would have handled them better if she had. She did OK, but she really wasn't able to verbally destroy this idiot's sleazeball 'arguments' they way they absolutely deserved to be. Maybe she'll get another crack at that.

By the way, I am absolutely honored that Ms. Ali chose to come to America!!

Posted by: pythagoras at July 16, 2007 2:17 PM