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Allowing for CAIR's Flying Imam lawsuit against the "John Does" who reported the imams' suspicious behavior, and making Americans afraid to report on suspicious activity for fear that they, too, will be sued. Bottom line: jihadists get a free hand in airports. Congratulations, Ms. Pelosi. "This is a slap in the face of good citizens who do their patriotic duty and come forward, and it caves in to radical Islamists," says Peter King, and he's right.
An update on this story. "Democrats cut 'John Doe' provision," by Audrey Hudson for the Washington Times:
Congressional Democrats today failed to include a provision in homeland security legislation that would protect the public from being sued for reporting suspicious behavior that may lead to a terrorist attack, according to House Republican leaders."This is a slap in the face of good citizens who do their patriotic duty and come forward, and it caves in to radical Islamists," said Rep. Peter T. King, New York Republican and ranking member of the House Homeland Security Committee.
Republicans wanted the provision included in final legislation, crafted yesterday during a House and Senate conference committee, that will implement final recommendations from the September 11 commission.
Mr. King and Rep. Steve Pearce, New Mexico Republican, sponsored the provision after a group of Muslim imams filed a federal civil rights lawsuit against US Airways and unknown "John Doe" passengers. The imams were removed from US Airways Flight 300 on Nov. 20 after fellow passengers on the Minneapolis-to-Phoenix flight complained about the imams' suspicious behavior.
On March 27, the House approved the "John Doe" amendment on a 304-121 vote.
"Democrats are trying to find any technical excuse to keep immunity out of the language of the bill to protect citizens, who in good faith, report suspicious activity to police or law enforcement," Mr. King said. "I don't see how you can have a homeland security bill without protecting people who come forward to report suspicious activity."
While the conference is not likely to meet again, Mr. King noted the conference report has not been written and says he will continue discussions with Sen. Joe Lieberman, Connecticut independent and chairman of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, to insert the "John Doe" language....
Mr. Pearce said Democrats made a choice as to "whether they are going to side with the American people or with the terrorists."
Florida Rep. Adam Putnam, chairman of the House Republican Conference, said failure to enact the provision will hold "the threat of endless litigation over the heads of the American people."
"Democrats are discouraging citizens from reporting suspicious behavior. And that, simply, leaves America vulnerable to terrorist attacks," Mr. Putnam said.
Yep.
Posted by Robert at July 19, 2007 8:37 PM
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Can we question their patriotism yet? My God, when will Americans wake up and see their leaders, mostly the Dems are not on America's side.
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at July 19, 2007 8:51 PM
I am truly losing hope for this country.....
Posted by: Lady Predator at July 19, 2007 8:56 PM
Why don't they just issue all upstanding, caring citizens with blinkers while they're at it ?
Or just get it over with and give the country to the muslims now.
Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at July 19, 2007 8:57 PM
"when will Americans wake up and see their leader, mostly the Dems are not on America's side"
When one or more American cities disappear under a mushroom cloud.
Pray
Plan
Prepare
The fight is coming to these shores, and you better be able to take care of yourself and your family.
at July 19, 2007 8:58 PM
Amen to that. Our government isnt going to protect us. If anything, this will hopefully wake up moderate blue dog Democrats. Your party isnt the party of Truman or JFK anymore.
Posted by: Elric66 at July 19, 2007 9:01 PM
alright I'm reading this on top of three yummy refreshing cocktails, and I admit I am a bit confused...
Has this passed yet? Is it law yet? Set in stone, unable to be thwarted?
Someone please help the girl with the nectar understand totally....
Posted by: JenBee at July 19, 2007 9:01 PM
JenBee,
I can't help you understand, there is no way to understand insanity, but as soon as I hit 'send' I'm going to join you in enjoying a yummy, refreshing, cocktail. Maybe a strong one will help ME understand.
Posted by: livefreeordie!
at July 19, 2007 9:06 PM
ALLAH SNACKBAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another Victory for the First World Peace Movement.
Posted by: AllahSnackbar at July 19, 2007 9:12 PM
lol livefreeordie!
*CHEERS!*
you know, in my drunken fantasy world, there is no islam... tis a beautiful thang :P
Posted by: JenBee at July 19, 2007 9:16 PM
Won't somebody think of the poor trial lawyers?
When badgering people with bogus lawsuits is outlawed, only outlaws will badger people with bogus lawsuits.
at July 19, 2007 9:17 PM
they arent called dhmmicrats for nothing.
Posted by: Elric66 at July 19, 2007 9:17 PM
Agree with all the above..yet this does after all have to pass the Senate to become a Bill (which the POTUS then has to sign to become an actual law?)Am I correct? Then we can drill in the Senators via E mail, phone calls etc? I've got a sinking feeling...whatever else is in the bill to make it worth a damn for anyone to sign as regards John Q. Public's protection in those situations? Shows what the "flyover states" red boned Americans get for not putting up with bul..sh..t! in Minn..what's the next step in this legislative hemmorrhoid? Tx
Posted by: nodak at July 19, 2007 9:18 PM
Future Headline
MASS MURDER and NO ONE STOPED IT
Witness #1
“We all saw them, they walked right into the building and once in they cut off every ones head”.
Witness #2
“I saw what looked to be swords, but they could have been umbrellas, even though it was sunny out”
Witness #3
“I know, all three of us saw it coming, but we could not be 100% sure, so we decided not to act, being they looked like Muslims, we were afraid it was a test run, or they might be trying to trap us into racial profiling like, you know …I don’t want to say any more CAIR is across the street.
at July 19, 2007 9:22 PM
..no problem..report the evil fuslims anonymously..or walk up to the nearest cop and say "dem folks over there are talkin some kinda
allah akbar boloney"..and walk away..
at July 19, 2007 9:34 PM
Remember when the Dems were complaining about connecting the dots. Well how do they expect the dots to be connected when the dots are afraid of being sued?
Posted by: Elric66 at July 19, 2007 9:36 PM
Perhaps it is time for more decent American citizens to take up martial arts to defend themselves and specificially know how to disarm people who carry weapons in anticipation of acts of jihad in public places.
Self-defense against armed assults is still legal, even if it occurs on an aircraft or other form of public transportation.
Trust me, it IS possible to take away a live gernade out of the hands of a terrorist if you have been properly trained.
Forget "reporting" anything; let the terrorists make the first move and then do what you have to do to protect yourself.
Thanks pelosi.
Posted by: witness at July 19, 2007 9:38 PM
Brought to you by the same people that are against wiring tapping jihadists.
Posted by: Elric66 at July 19, 2007 9:40 PM
Now here is where lawsuits would help.
This violates our Constitutional Rights.
Named in this suit as a co-conspirater would be the ACLU. By naming the ACLU, you could challenge their IRS Non-profit status by being in violation of supporting ONE POLITICAL PARTY (Democrats).
Discovery would show that the Democrats have met with CAIR and the ACLU to get their input on this. This has been orchestrated behind closed doors, and since there is only two groups in the country that sue (CAIR and ACLU) the Democrats are feeling un-challenged.
Posted by: alaskan1000 at July 19, 2007 9:50 PM
List of those who voted nay
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/19/dont-let-the-dems-kill-the-john-doe-amendment/
at July 19, 2007 9:51 PM
If anyone thinks that we have to wait for millions more Muslims to enter this country before they start exerting substantial influence over the government's political, social and security policies, they'd better think again.
Just an small, cohesive, concentrated minority of Muslims in a place like Dearbon, Michigan, among others, can exert an influence far beyond anything their numbers would indicate.
Dearbon, for one example, is a Democratic party stronghold, and the National Democratic party organization is going to do whatever it takes to keep it that way. If that means ignoring the Islamic threat to this country, and jepordising the lives of American citizens, they'll do it. The selfish interest' of elected officials like Keith Ellison, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are all that count. Everything else takes a back seat.
There can be no other explanation for Pelosi's actions in removing an obvious protection for Americans who report suspecious activities to authorities.
That small, cohesive minority of Muslims are flexing their muscles, and it's paying big dividens in the halls of Congress.
We desperately need a third part in this country! Period.
Posted by: rational
at July 19, 2007 9:56 PM
Democrats Kill John Doe Amendment
Posted by: Lumpy at July 19, 2007 10:04 PM
In the end, if there is ever again another attack or a series of attacks in the USA, the Muslims of Dearborn and elsewhere will end up being subjected to an angry backlash from the rest of America. That will end up extending to those who supported them.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at July 19, 2007 10:11 PM
...that's an understatement of the year. No excuse whatsoever for NOT passing protection for john does.
In the mean time, this vote was simply another victory for the treason lobby...another group of "those who supported them." And those doing the backlash, will be those very same "john doe"s, and they have a L-O-T of weapons.
at July 19, 2007 10:20 PM
I would like to post my thoughts.
Democrats are (deleted). And they can (edited) go (censored). And (erased) (deleted) (censored).
What ever happened to believeing in America and protecting all that she stands for and gives each one of us?
Posted by: screaming_eagle at July 19, 2007 10:23 PM
How low do their numbers have to get before the people can impeach them?
It's almost time to storm the bastile.
at July 19, 2007 10:28 PM
This looks like a breach in security...
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Maintenance workers at San Francisco International Airport on Thursday found a dead man in the wheel well of a United Airlines Boeing 747 arriving from China, an airline spokeswoman said.
Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA at July 19, 2007 10:30 PM
If there is another 9/11 like attack using our civilian aircraft, then bring about a class action lawsuit against their party and bankrupt them out of power!
Posted by: The Resistance at July 19, 2007 10:31 PM
screaming eagle:
It went out the door along with common sense, with political correctness in its place.
Did I mention the weapons the "john doe"s have are also the very same ones the very same "no to protection" voters are trying so desperately to ban for bogus reasons?
Gee...another dot to connect there...(BIG HINT)...
duh_swami's point is exactly what may happen at the rate, and happen sooner rather than later.
Posted by: jcom972 at July 19, 2007 10:31 PM
SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) dead man in the wheel well
http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN1943626520070719
Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA at July 19, 2007 10:38 PM
JenBee,
Home made Lynchburg lemonade is really good with some fresh mint in it.
You guys are right. The people we've elected to serve us do nothing but serve themselves. That goes on both sides of the aisle, too. I see nothing but condescending arrogance towards the people at large, and a hand out to help whoever has the most money to contribute to their reelection. "Traitor" is a most accurate term, because many people on capitol hill have truly sold us out to the enemy.
The enemy is within. The enemy is using the God-given freedoms that that our nation offers to plan our deaths. The enemy will kill us whenever given the opportunity.
Meanwhile...'the people in charge' tie our hands. They make every possible effort to disarm us, and silence us, and lead us as sheep to the slaughter. They call our own soldiers and marines murderers, but excuse absolute barbarism from the Jihadists.
I have assurance in my heart that the American people will stand, fight, and emerge victorious when the time comes- but I've lost almost all hope that the people in high places will make a strong stand now, when it would count the most.
Sleep well everyone.
Posted by: livefreeordie! at July 19, 2007 10:47 PM
Amen to that...they've no clue who they're pissing off...then again, with a popularity rating even LOWER (which they try to hide) than the President they so scorn & laugh at for "being so low", it's unlikely they even have a clue what's down the road for them...
Posted by: jcom972 at July 19, 2007 10:53 PM
The Flying Imams clearly violated federal law and were not charged by Bush's DoJ. But this is the same guy who refused to charge all those Clinton aides who vandalized the White House before they vacated.
* 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 ** 33:21 *
We cannot prosecute Moslem activists for their crimes against us, for doing that might make 'em angrier at us. Better to discriminate against ourselves, cower, and pray that they don't blow us up again.
What the hell difference does all this make. Have you ever been to MSP airport? Filled with angry Somali Moslems paid a federal wage bu the Dept of Homeland Security to protect us against Moslem activists......
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at July 19, 2007 10:55 PM
Expect America to then do a little "housecleaning" of those who are jihadi and those who support them.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at July 19, 2007 10:58 PM
Pissing off over 200 million angry Americans with guns, ready and willing to shoot back the minute they realize it's the last resort to self-preservation...
...ummm, yeah...that WILL make one helluva difference.
at July 19, 2007 11:01 PM
This congress becomes more reprehensible by the day. Can't wait to see what they have in store for us next.
Posted by: staff_of_magius at July 19, 2007 11:08 PM
By the way...what part of MSP?
I was there last Christmas in from SJO to change planes, & only saw white female TSAs & the rest were county sheriff deputies.
Did they change the last 6-7 months?
at July 19, 2007 11:09 PM
CUFI Video; Christians Unified for Israel Video; John Hagee Video; Newt Gingrich Video
Watch the speeches given Tuesday by Pastor Hagee, Benjamin Netanyahu, and potential Republican presidential candidate, former Rep. Newt Gingrich to Christian Zionists about the imperative to demonstrate military resolve against Iran to thwart global Islamist imperialism.
http://democracybroadcasting.blogspot.com/2007/07/live-blogging-from-cufi-washingtons.html
Posted by: DemoCast at July 19, 2007 11:14 PM
They're all stationed out at the entrance on the boarding level. You know, where they make you take of your shoes and x-ray your carry-ons. 9 of the last 10 times I've through there the guy looking at the TV screen of my carry-on x-rays has been an angry non-activist (we think) Moslem, this Somali or that Somali. Scowling, Moslems all.
Of course, that certanily does not present an opportunity for another 9/11, now does it.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at July 19, 2007 11:15 PM
They're all stationed out at the entrance on the boarding level. You know, where they make you take of your shoes and x-ray your carry-ons. 9 of the last 10 times I've through there the guy looking at the TV screen of my carry-on x-rays has been an angry non-activist (we think) Moslem, this Somali or that Somali. Scowling, Moslems all.
Of course, that certanily does not present an opportunity for another 9/11, now does it?
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at July 19, 2007 11:15 PM
I did not realize I had so many brothers and sisters! I'm John Doe! -this story- posted above-I first saw it on Foehammer, LOL....! Elric66 has it too! I loved that movie with Kirt Douglas and Tony Curtis! LOL.. That was a must see! Fantastic! I loved Robert in there, I nearly lost it..lol..and Michelle I love her! lol.. I watched it like four times! It must be that bump I recieved on my head today! This is the first I laughed like this in a long time! I give it a *****!
Posted by: MZ at July 19, 2007 11:18 PM
A Caution to all Americans:
Do not vote for the Democrats again.
Do not vote for Barack Obama.
Do not vote for Hilary Clinton.
Not if you wish to continue living in a free nation.
These people are all on that megalomaniac Communist billionaire, George Soros's payroll! They are NOT the friends of the American people (and that's putting it NICELY!!!).
Communism has joined forces with Islam and is busy at work subverting what is left of this nations' greatness. George Soros is bending over backwards making sure of that.
I do NOT sing Bush's or the Republicans' praises. Not for a minute.
For now though the Republican Party seems to be the only firewall we have against Islamo-Communist-fascist subversion of America (under the guise of "multi-culturism" no less). That's sad.
PLEASE EVERYONE DO NOT VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATS and DELIVER US ALL FROM ISLAM!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: pythagoras at July 19, 2007 11:21 PM
Greetings fellow commentators, guess who's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack?
I hope you have been behaving during my absence. I had a great time in Pakistan. You people should go visit sometime. By the way, I heard Bush was still making progress in his... grammar class. I also heard that you people wanna open another war front with Pakistan. The empire is going down.
Ex-lover of jesus and no lover of Judeo-Nazis
at July 19, 2007 11:22 PM
Thanks APF...I came via NorthWestAir, next to the well known "stairs to the smoking lounge was, lol
(section "B" comes to mind...downstairs & just out the door, where even at -0*F & -30F wind chill, still had 300+ folks churnin' & burnin' lol)
They checked our stuff, too...didn't see them, lucky me.
Sad to say, to be straight up...if someone wants to hit us, they will...frankly, I think the TSA BS is just that...it would be much cheaper and simpler doing it the simple way...DON'T check grandma jones & john doe...profile profile profile...and DON'T prohibit guns on planes.
Before (if memory serves me right) 1968, nobody was checked for weapons...
(it's also proven one cannot blow the plane out shooting through it...see the show "Mythbusters")
...it would've made a huge difference on 9/11.
But...since it's too simple, not much chance of it coming to light...after all, common sense isn't in vogue anymore, only its anti-matter opposite is, political correctness.
Posted by: jcom972 at July 19, 2007 11:28 PM
Get ready folks to see this thread being hijacked by yours truly, progressive.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at July 19, 2007 11:32 PM
"Amen to that. Our government isnt going to protect us. If anything, this will hopefully wake up moderate blue dog Democrats. Your party isnt the party of Truman or JFK anymore."
Posted by: Elric66
No party is the party they were.They were all correct in changing with the times.Thats what makes us who we are.Thats why Islam is what it is.
The questions are what time are we in and what have the changes been.
Change is a good thing (as politicians and corps, will tell ya)change is also a bad thing as all of us are seeing first hand.
How many acres of the farm do you think this gives away?
Posted by: Dar al-harb at July 19, 2007 11:33 PM
Ultimately, we cannot rely on the current generation of policy, political, and academic elites of this nation to protect us from recrudescent Islamic jihad. These people do not have a clue about the nature of this enemy nor appreciate the threat it poses.
Therefore, it is only we the people who can protect ourselves and each other. We need a pact with each other about this. And part of that pact MUST include a proviso that if our government and its elites are seriously remiss in taking our demands for security seriously we then reserve the right to even resort to revolution to re-secure for ourselves and our prosperity the blessings of liberty.
If Islam really lays the suckerpunch on us in the years ahead, then all of those who aided and abetted the enemy should have a date with the hangman.
at July 19, 2007 11:35 PM
progressive:
America is not and never was an "empire."
We leave that to Communist ideologues such as yourself.
Drop dead.
Pythagoras
at July 19, 2007 11:35 PM
Just testign the hostle waters on Jihad Watch
Posted by: progressive at July 19, 2007 11:39 PM
This has changed nothing for me.
After so much litigation they would be trying to get blood from a turnip.
While i drag out every iota of facts and truths about islam.
Pertaining to the subject of the suit of course.
The chance to take out some trash.
at July 19, 2007 11:43 PM
"progressive" you are an idiot who deludes himself into thinking himself significant. Your cyber jihad here has no effect except to lay bare the emptiness of your mind.
at July 19, 2007 11:44 PM
Muslims are members of a special interest minority group so they get to play by different rules. Democrats don't believe there is a serious terrorist threat to America so it isn't necessary to protect American citizens, especially if it means profiling poor, persecuted, victimized muslims, one of their favorite identity politics cliques. Every day we hear the idiot Chertoff tell us to "remain vigilent and report any unusual activity, no matter how trivial it may seem." He fails to warn Americans that if they report a false alarm, CAIR and the ACLU will drag them to court. It won't surprise me a bit when people resort to vigilanteism to deal with problems our government refuses to address. They all get to fly around in private or chartered jets so why should they care if we get blown out of the sky by a rabid muslim?
I truly pity anyone who is depending on our useless, incompetent, treasonous government to protect us from islamic terrorists. The Republicans have let us down in many ways but most of them understand the islamic threat and have tried to address it. God help us when the democrats take power and short of a miracle, that dreadful day is not far away. When are the American people going to stand up and demand accountability from these power hungry, greedy, corrupt legislators? Three fourths of them should be voted out of office, but it won't happen.
Posted by: Susanp at July 19, 2007 11:46 PM
Progressive the problem with second hand news is as bad as second hand underwear.It's stretched and stained.
You know like the underwear we infedels send over to pakyland.
Just shells of underwear for shells of people.
Progressive is just another polisher.A Second rate one with second hand news.
polish,polish,polish.
Posted by: Dar al-harb at July 19, 2007 11:56 PM
progessive,
what does an ex-lover of jesus see in mohammed. Please tell us. Is it the violence? The sex?
Posted by: mountainecho at July 19, 2007 11:58 PM
For anyone, like these scumbag Imams who go onto an airliner and behave the way they did, it appears that the time has come for them to be made to feel as uncomfortable as possible by all normal, human passengers.
We all have the right to protect ourselves and our property from threats, and whether the CAIR recognizes it or not, Islam is a threat. If they have any proof to the contrary, let them produce it.
Posted by: Prickzilla at July 20, 2007 12:16 AM
This surrenderology on the part of the gutless political pimps will change nothing of American behavior.
People will still continue to report suspicious activites at the risk of being sued.
Because they know it is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
Meet 275 million John and Jane Does.
(That's 300 million, minus the 20 million illegals and 5 million assorted malcontents, useful idiots, feckless fools, seditionists and tinfoilistas).
Ignore this legislational suicide and keep an eye on the s.o.b.'s.
at July 20, 2007 12:20 AM
57 votes? And we needed 60?
It must have been a cloture
vote.
at July 20, 2007 12:27 AM
The Republicans are far from perfect but at least they haven't lost their mind and their balls. The modern Democratic party is on a collision course with national suicide. Incidentally, what exactly is the Democratic plan to combat radical Muslims (in the millions) who have declared eternal war on us dhimmis? I can't discern any.
Posted by: Wellington at July 20, 2007 12:34 AM
No, it was to include the defense of john does provision amendment against frivolous lawsuits by the perps.
Posted by: jcom972 at July 20, 2007 12:34 AM
Do not panic people, all is not lost yet. These roll calls are going to become more valuable nearing the 2008 elections.
Clinton and Schumer both voted yes out of necessity, otherwise there would be a hell of a lot of posters to rip down in the NYC public transit systems. Obvious.
So far, Hillary and her ilk cannot escape their previous votes on shamnetsy for example. Roll calls and public awareness will elect the president in 2008, in my opinion.
It appears New Jersey needs a complete enema, but that discussion is for another day.
Obama, in all his "Christian" glory, decided that this would be a good one to sit out, especially after the Ellison Hitler fiasco?
This vote alone, or non-vote to be specific adds another presidential hopeful to the default disqualified ranks:
So far we have:
McCain: (Amnesty)
Edwards: (global war on terror is not real and is only a Bush slogan)
Obama: (Since we are speaking of John Does reporting suspicious acts on Muslims alone, also knowing my suspect upbringing, I think a good way to show the people what a Christian I am is to sit this one out?)
Brownback: He has withdrawn. It is just that nobody told him yet.
Brian Williams and NBC do not monopolize the news information in this country anymore. JW's unmistakable popularity is a living, breathing testament to that, and to that we owe our thanks and continued service to Robert and company.
Only Hillary is left standing, albeit breathing heavily, since her votes on the amnesty bill will surely come back to haunt her. Hopefully she will continue to talk about socialized health care, using liberalist quotes like, "We are all in this together". That will only expedite her further demise, however under one very important pretense.
BUSH NEEDS TO GET US THE HELL OUT OF IRAQ, NOW!!
Posted by: awake at July 20, 2007 12:43 AM
Dear progressive,
"I had a great time in Pakistan. You people should go visit sometime."
I'm sure that you did for so have I done on many a visit. I, of course, together with my tutor and several other students, are usually guests of the government and as such we have privileged access to many things - which I'll bet you don't.
I was able to speak freely with many of the Pakistani elite as well as with the ordinary men and women in the street. All, almost without exception, reject your viewpoint and live in fear and dread of your stupid version of Islam. The vast majority of the people of Pakistan support the actions of His Excellency President General Musharraf and the Army in tackling, head on, the Muslim extremists in their midst - while not necessarily supporting his political views in other spheres, of course.
But what came across quite clearly was a total rejection of the aspirations, the ideology, the beliefs and the aims of any form of so-called radical Islam, together with an intense hatred for al-Quaida and its leadership. It was obvious to me, on my last visit, that Pakistan felt itself to be a country under attack by foreign forces that the vast majority of the people, quite correctly, identified as Wahabbi Arab. It was very startling to see the huge number of people who supported His Excellency The President in this sphere while at the same time rejecting almost all of his other policies. It was also clear that a huge majority of the population supported the Pakistani Army in their attempts to get the better of the so-called militants.
It was so obvious that extremist and anti-Western Islam enjoyed no support at all from the Pakistani population at large, but equally it was also obvious that many people were afraid to express their views for fear of a reprisal by the the tiny, but well-armed, militants. So, once again in the Islamic world, we see a tiny minority of well organised terrorists cowing the population of an entire country into submission.
It is little wonder, then, that they try the same tactic against the populations of our Western democracies. Fortunately, we are made of sterner stuff and progressive, and all his ilk, can go whistle in the wind, thank God.
Posted by: Jonathan Ralbrooke at July 20, 2007 12:53 AM
English translation for the durkanese:
GOD GUNS and GUTS
We shoot back...that's why what works in islamistan doesn't work here.
at July 20, 2007 1:00 AM
Let's try my Urdu on TerryHenry (Progressive) (To the Urdu challenged, guess what I said):
Progressive-mian
Aap Lal Masjid may kio shaheed hua nehi burqa pein kay?
Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 20, 2007 1:02 AM
Dear profitsbeard,
Of course the John and Jane Does will continue to report suspicious activity - on our side of the Atlantic as well as in the US of A. People, when it comes to their lives, are not so stupid as to resign themselves to political correctness!
Posted by: Jonathan Ralbrooke at July 20, 2007 1:03 AM
Dear progressive,
And, while we are on the subject of Pakistan, it was plainly obvious that everyone we spoke with rejected your stupid and alarmist view of Israel. Most of the folks we talked to had very kindly views of Israel and the Jews and utterly rejected your stupid assertions about some sort of Zionist conspiracy. Looks like you've lost in Pakistan, old boy - maybe not territorially but most certainly you've lost the 'hearts and minds'.
Certainly, you've failed with the elite, with the middle classes and with the upper working classes and with enormous numbers of the rural farmers. You may make a lot of noise but basically you are only doing so because you have lost. Reason and love have, and always will, won out.
You've lost in Pakistan, thank God. Live with it, idiot! And may you rot in Hell!
Posted by: Jonathan Ralbrooke at July 20, 2007 1:36 AM
LEFTIES AND MUSLIMS SIDE BY SIDE IN THE FIGHT AGAINST AMERICA
The American mujihadeen are at work again, weakening anti-terror legislation, having pajama parties in the Capitol Building, hunger striking against the war on terror in Iraq, comparing Pres. Bush to Hitler even as he protects Israel against the Muslims, telling our soldiers they are fighting a losing cause against evil...
How in the @#$@% did we ever elect these LOSERS into the Senate and House????
At least they are showing their true colors. Let's not forget this crap in 2008 and elect a Lefty Mujihadeen as President of the United States of America. Bin Laden wants YOU to join the Democratic Party in the US; join Uncle Bin for a better, more Islamic, America!
Posted by: Tookson at July 20, 2007 1:40 AM
When can we start executing the traitors amongst us?
Why must common sense always be an uncommon virtue?
We as a people have become soft, fat, and stupid. We talk and talk and talk--and we wait for the mushroom clouds.
Our liberal politicians (that our fellow "Americans" have elected) are soul-less cowards, liars, cheats, rapists, thieves, murderers, and traitors. Their only concern is re-election, and they will lie, cheat, steal, and in some cases kill to effect that end. They consistently align themselves with our enemies and can never be relied upon to be moral, ethical, nor to use common sense. They represent all that is evil in our society. They drive us at lightspeed to the abyss.
Liberalism is a cancer. You don't try to be friends with it or appease it in hopes that it will just go away--you cut it out.
The deck chairs have been arranged and rearranged. What happens next can still be up to us--if we can find our balls.
at July 20, 2007 1:52 AM
Dear progressive,
And, just in case you're wondering, I could call down upon your head, and upon the heads of all your descendants forever, and upon all who support you, the relevant parts of the Great Curse - and yes, I would have the courage to use the Great Curse, so be afraid for one, as predicted, has no fear of this curse!
As I damn you then so are you damned: damned in the sight of God and of Man; cursed and forced to walk for the devil forever; to live and to die in his sight always and forever; to know no rest and to perish but to never perish. Damned you are and always damned, to damn your offspring forever from your own mouth. No rest shall you or your soul ever know for you and all of yours are accursed in the sight of God. I damn your going and your coming; I damn your being and your non-being; I damn your eating and your fasting; I damn your procreation, forever, and your abstinence will be as a curse; I damn your thinking awake and your dreaming asleep; I damn your efforts and your laziness and I damn your growing and your fallow time. You are cursed and damned in the sight and in the word and in the mind of God for I have asked this in the name of our Lord and God Jesus Christ in accordance with the promise made to Peter and the ancient curse upon all who know not. And so, you are damned.
This small part of the Great Curse you could, for your hubris, take upon yourself, forever, if we chose to pronounce against you. Damn you! And, as your own Saints say, you cannot turn aside any part of the Great Curse. There, we/I could have used it. But it could damn us as it would surely damn you!
None the less, I will pray for your soul that you may turn to Christ - the only way to avert those parts of the Great Curse that you will bring upon yourself by your continuing belief in the evil that is Islam. Give it up, before we are forced to use the entire curse against all of you.
at July 20, 2007 2:23 AM
DemoNuts have proved to us "beyond a shadow of a doubt" they are narcies/nut's!
Plz..when 2008 get here for our votes...be wise and vote no democrat into office. Or Imam's be praying instead of Minister's. We may have no pig meat to eat with dem's given them right's..I like my ham sandwich.
Reid, Murtha, Polosi, Hillary, Obama, Kennedy, Ellison (Group of bimbo's....they in for greed and not this country. Obama and Ellison= Islam/sharia...the rest is plain coo coo's...yes they are dingbat's. I have never seen this country change so much but in last few years...people are gone mad!
I hope the people who voted dem's in... that is reading this will think twice before they vote a dem in this coming 2008. If we want to take this country back...vote in the least of the evil (Republican's)..at least we will keep our country.
Posted by: Cher at July 20, 2007 3:29 AM
Greetings fellow commentators, guess who's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack?
I hope you have been behaving during my absence. I had a great time in Pakistan. You people should go visit sometime. By the way, I heard Bush was still making progress in his... grammar class. I also heard that you people wanna open another war front with Pakistan. The empire is going down.
Ex-lover of jesus and no lover of Judeo-Nazis
Posted by: progressive at July 19, 2007 11:22 PM
Progressive,
Go live in Pakastan and eat their dirt. Are you from one of the compound's here and hide behind bushes!You chicken liver...scarredy cat's cant fight like a real man. You snakes...you slip slide around in nights while people sleep and do wicked things. You people could not fight yourself out of a wet bag..thats why you so sneaky. Got to cover those faces up!
You gonna get your judgement with he rest of them "in hell". It want go on forever...you be looking at ya Satan right in his ugly face. And no..not 70 virgin boy's. No wonder Dem's stand for homo's right's..you guy's just as bad. (Sick people). Ain't none of you going in Heaven...Heaven is Pure! You not allowed to defile the Holiness of God!
at July 20, 2007 3:42 AM
Well all, guess the Dhimmicrats have just informed the world, that people like me must be sued to death.
Posted by: senor doeboy at July 20, 2007 4:06 AM
News from Cairns/Downunder:
WEDNESDAY 25 JULY
UNDERSTANDING ISLAM - 3:30pm to 6pm
Public Forum - bookings essential contact 4044 3324
Venue: Cairns City Council Civic Reception, Spence St
Guest speaker Dr Mohamad Abdalla, director of the Griffith
University Centre for Islamic Studies speaks about the basic
teachings and beliefs of Islam with an emphasis on clarifying
issues such as Jihad and women in Islam.
Anybody concerned about the new mosque and the spread of Islam in Australia should attend.
In other news: Imam Abdul Aziz of Cairns intends to take a Cairns businessman through the courts for instilling 'fear of Islam' in local residents. A Gavin King, rabid nutbag reporter for the Cairns Fishwrap,- very proudly and dutifully reports on behalf of the ummah.
More later....
Posted by: sheik yer'mami at July 20, 2007 4:07 AM
Pelosi continues to be a terrorists best friend and an enemy of the American people.
Posted by: Alaskan at July 20, 2007 4:10 AM
Pelosi and friends are aiding the terrorists, and are fast becoming a clear danger to the security of the American people. These folks have no clue whatsoever as to the danger that confronts us. Prepare America...your fate will, all too soon, be thrust into your hands. Your ability to keep what you have from those who would take it will,I fear, soon be tested.
Let me amend that... The Free World must prepare, if it wants to remain free, not just America.
at July 20, 2007 4:28 AM
Really REALLY BIG conflict-of-interest clue #1:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/6/30/104915.shtml?s=lh
Protecting ones interests it appears...
Can you say treason lobby?
at July 20, 2007 5:11 AM
I'm so angry at the flying imams and the failure of politicians to prosecute them as terrorists and provocateurs that if I see even the slightest hint of suspicious activity among Muslims I will report it to every damn cop and every damn FBI guy I see.
I'm a political independent. I see little chance I'll be able to vote for Obama or Clinton. I'm kind of hopeful that Giuliani knows, or will eventually realize, that Islam, unlike the other five or six major religions, is a grave danger to free institutions. He strikes me as the most competent, no-nonsense, energetic, intelligent, effective guy in the candidate field. I think he might be able to see quickest the steps that are necessary to better secure the country. And he also might be best able to argue and bully those steps into realization. The Democrats are scared of Giuliani, and with good reason. As mayor he beat them into submission in NYC, where he was outnumbered like 6 to 1. And when the Left tries to revile him, as they often do others on the Right, Giuliani knows how to fight back and gives much better than he gets. As district attorney, before he was mayor, he totally stomped the mafia, and you could tell his heart was in it, come hell or high water, as if mafia threats and criminality so outraged him that he was determined to be relentless, ruthless, merciless in his legal actions against them. He's a politician who, unlike most others, actually seems to have some serious values, actually hates certain evils enough to fight them with real passion, and loves certain goods enough to defend them the same way. He doesn't mold himself to every political wind. At least that's my impression of him.
I admit I don't know much about Fred Thompson or Mitt Romney. John McCain doesn't seem to me as smart or as competent or as energetic as Giuliani.
Posted by: traeh at July 20, 2007 5:21 AM
Hi progressive
Glad that you enjoyed your trip to Pakistan, I worked with a Muslim girl and who went there once to find her roots and declared she would never go back there again. She walked out of an arranged marriage to a Pakistani to marry an Englishman and was disowned by her family and community even though the guy became a Muslim. To tell you the truth she was a good-looking girl with a terrific figure and given the chance I would probably have become whatever was required myself.
You say you are an ex-lover of Jesus but I think most Christians would say he still loves you but then there is no accounting for taste. Curious, did you shop around before you became a Mohammedan? I mean there are a lot of religions out there, several hundred varieties of Christian and Jew right down the scale to tree huggers and Satanists. I would however agree with you that four wives are better than a forest of trees anyday. Actually if it were not for the appalling weather in the UK Satanism appeals to me, all that dancing naked around a fire at Midsummer and then expending ones energy in a sexual frenzy. It may not actually summon up the Devil, but who cares? If we introduced Satanism to Pakistan with its better climate they might screw themselves into an even greater state of stupidity and be too exausted to bother the rest of us. Can you give it a try?
BTW any comments regarding my grammar would be accepted with the gratitude and deference due to someone of your intellect.
at July 20, 2007 5:44 AM
Addendum
Hillary should not be underestimated: if she gets the nomination, her defeat in the general election might not be easy. She is not Geraldine Ferraro. She's not Elizabeth Dole. I disagree with most of Hillary's political views, but she seems to be extremely smart. She might have the "right" persona to get elected as the first woman president. She may turn out to be a formidable competitor in the race. If she did get elected, it might even turn out, by one of those ironic twists one often sees in politics, to be good for conservatives and hawks. (Just as conservative Americans would only trust the anti-communist conservative Nixon to open up the U.S. to Hard Left China, so the American Left would only permit someone like Hillary to take certain conservative steps, such as going to war when necessary. It also is sometimes harder for the Left to be fiscally irresponsible, because when the Left is in power the Right often watches like a hawk and screams bloody murder at any new tax, spending, program, etc. GWB, on the other hand, was for a long time given a pass by the Right when it came to overspending and so on.)
Posted by: traeh at July 20, 2007 5:45 AM
Meanwhile, 250 terrorists released
Posted by: Elric66 at July 20, 2007 5:54 AM
Obama: Don't stay in Iraq over genocide
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070720/ap_on_el_pr/obama_ap_interview;_ylt=AlK4DCsh3p74FUtLMXDYYkEDW7oF
Posted by: Elric66 at July 20, 2007 5:56 AM
Ya know one thing for sure...
when, not if, we get hit again, it really won't make any difference what our politics are...
it won't make any difference what politico calls for restraint-nobody will listen to it anymore...
islamist heads will roll, then
aider & abetters heads will roll, then
political correctness brownshirts heads will roll...
and the politicians will be reminded who's boss.
When they fear us, the people, THEN we will have liberty and security again.
1) When people fear the government, you have tyranny When government fears the people, you have Liberty
2) Any government big enough to give you anything, is also big enough to take it away.
3) NO civilization who failed to defend themselves has ever survived.
4) The 2nd Amendment is more important than the 1st-when you're armed, you can say any damned thing you wish.
5) Rights without responsibilities to use them properly end up as neither.
Borders, Language, Culture
Duty, Honor, Country,
God, Guns & Guts
Without them, we're history.
at July 20, 2007 6:00 AM
"... I had a great time in Pakistan. "
Posted by: progressive
.....I have heard the Pakistanians have some great hate teaching, bearded, crazed, fingerpointing Islamic clerics there...no doubt, you attended some of their sermons gleefully bouncing your head on the floor....I suspect you met some nice RAGE BOY types who are so filled with hate they do not enjoy life...maybe you attended some JIHADI camps with fun with guns classes....do you get the opportunity to participate with some religious police types who were busy terrorizing school girls or ice cream vendors trying to earn a living....maybe you helped deliver food and ammo to the the terrorist camps near Afghanistan...maybe you met Al-Zawahiri and chatted about the pain and death Al-Qaeda is fostering where ever it can....perhaps you sat in with some happy go lucky religious policemen who were busy giving some poor sap 50 lashes for listening to a musical CD....did you have fun with the Taliban weirdos who were laughingly debating who had the nastiest beard and who smelled worse....did you get to meet with some Saudi gun runners who had plenty of new weapons and land mines to sell...I don't suppose you had time to take and anger management classes...but I know vacation time is short and you may have missed out on the honor killing going on down the road....take some time and share your vacation stories....
...Ban Muslim immigration......
Posted by: exsgtbrown at July 20, 2007 6:11 AM
...I hope Cindy Sheehan runs against Pelosi in the next election and wins...this would remove Pelosi from the senior position she now holds...
maybe the next dhimmicrat who would inherit the majority leaders position would have half a brain, but I doubt it
Posted by: exsgtbrown at July 20, 2007 6:19 AM
Sheehan is cozy with Hugo Chavez.But then Pelosi is cozy with Bashar (sp). Really wouldnt make a difference. San Fran would elect Stalin if he was alive today.
Posted by: Elric66 at July 20, 2007 6:23 AM
l read in Newsmax that Senator Joe Lieberman holds more power than most in the DC beltway, he can make the difference. l am disapointed that he does not toss out the dems for this latest attack on the US citizens. the Dems are playing this like a game where lives are at stake. Those who are in Lieberman's district or l guess any US citizen should email, fax Lieberman to go back an insert provisions to protect "whisle blowers" something that the Dems loved when they were working against the Republicans.
Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at July 20, 2007 6:24 AM
progressive
heck how does anyone believe a word this loser has to say, he prol has not left his little room or block. progressive is nothing but farce and loser.
at July 20, 2007 6:27 AM
How does anyone comment on "progressive"? He is a troll that is starved for attention.
Posted by: Elric66 at July 20, 2007 6:30 AM
This is funny.
Prostitutes co-opt Muslim attire
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/node/5489
Posted by: Elric66 at July 20, 2007 6:36 AM
Jonathan Ralbrook,
Where is the Great Curse from? Couldn't find it through google. Interesting passage.
exsgtbrown:
That was an entertaining little verbal blitzkrieg.
Fred:
Your response to pseudo-progressive was entertainingly spontaneous and witty.
I think people responding to the poster calling himself "progressive" should consider responding to him as "pseudo-progressive." By using the name "progressive" he is seeking to harden the division between conservative and progressive when it comes to the debate about Islam. It is a form of divide and conquer strategy. We need as many allies on the democratic Left as we can get; we cannot afford to lose a single potential ally. So we should reject pseudo-progressive; but be open to any genuine progressive who wants to ally with us in the fight against totalitarian Islam. We shouldn't let pseudo-progressive appoint himself the representative of progressives. Sort of like letting Communists label themselves the "vanguard."
Posted by: traeh at July 20, 2007 6:39 AM
Sad to say, traeh,
many communists have successfully labelled themselves as Democrats in the US as it is
(starting with the man who, by their own admission, bought & paid for the party lock stock & barrel, george "the capo" soros) which is part of the problem (and a major source of frustration for "blue dogs"-conservative Democrats who would otherwise be right on board, too).
But...that's another forum entirely...
at July 20, 2007 7:12 AM
Question: On the Motion (Motion to Waive CBA Collins Amdt. No. 2340 )
Vote Number: 261 Vote Date: July 19, 2007, 08:23 PM
Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Motion Rejected
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 2340 to S.Amdt. 2327 to H.R. 2669 (College Cost Reduction Act of 2007 )
Statement of Purpose: To provide limited immunity for reports of suspicious behavior and response.
Vote Counts: YEAs 57
NAYs 39
Not Voting 4
NAYs ---39
Akaka (D-HI)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lincoln (D-AR)
McCaskill (D-MO)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sanders (I-VT)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)
Not Voting - 4
Brownback (R-KS)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Johnson (D-SD)
Obama (D-IL)
==
Note Jim Webb among those voting no.
Posted by: Old Atlantic at July 20, 2007 8:29 AM
...I can see D men with D plan....
Posted by: exsgtbrown at July 20, 2007 8:38 AM
Quote - ..no problem..report the evil fuslims anonymously..or walk up to the nearest cop and say "dem folks over there are talkin some kinda
allah akbar boloney"..and walk away..
Posted by: Madduck
Unquote
And then tell the cop that your name is Bacon Eating Infidel. I'd love to see cair file a lawsuit against "Bacon Eating Infidel".
at July 20, 2007 9:12 AM
What useless scum these Dems are.
Hold another pyjama party you fools. You have lost the people, except a few trial lawyers and the lefty left.
The Dems will lose bigtime.
Posted by: dgene at July 20, 2007 9:28 AM
Psst.. I wana report strange Muslim behaviors.. no can't give my name.. make it anonymous.. they're doing this strange thing....
Posted by: Battle_of_Tours at July 20, 2007 9:42 AM
No surprise, the Democrats are more concerned over the right of lawyers to sue than National Security. What do you expect out of the party who nominated a traitor like John Kerry for President?
No matter how disgusted I get at Republicans, the Democrats always to something to remind me they are far, far worst.
Posted by: Proud Infidel at July 20, 2007 10:22 AM
House Vote information
Republicans may be in italics in above vote.
Some Democrat No votes, chosen because in the news often.
Dingell, Ellison, Gutierrez, Hoyer, Kucinich McDermott, Rangel.
Hoyer is in the leadership. Kucinich is running for president. Dingell is from Michigan and may feel the need to appeal to the Muslim community in Michigan.
Posted by: Old Atlantic at July 20, 2007 10:56 AM
There were zero Republicans in the House voting no on the King Amendment.
Posted by: Old Atlantic at July 20, 2007 10:57 AM
Omission not Commission
If you ask me, leaving out a provision to protect people reporting suspicious activity is not that big of a deal. It’s an omission, not a commission. I don’t think an absence of positive protection will change most people’s behavior anyway for a number of reasons.
Common Sense
people aren’t afraid of a ‘threat of endless litigation’ over their heads. Maybe lawyers are afraid, but I doubt even that too. they’d love more litigation. Lawyers and politicians are so full of bullshit they have a real talent for making it up as they go along and are opportunistic by practice. I’m around plenty in the off-hours and see the patterns of thought and behavior. Come after me, motherfuckers! I dare you. Most won’t because they weigh cost/benefit and know the odds and those who would will waste time and effort- their own. It goes both ways. Come and get me all you bad-ass 'shark' lawyers … I laugh :))
I seriously hope that someday I’m in a situation like the flying imams. I am awake. I’ll report what I see. I don’t care if a lawyer is waiting for me to do so. Let him come at me. I am a watchdog in the spirit of those in Bill Whittle’s essays (www.ejectejecteject.com) and my inner nature isn’t going to change because the possibility that some Philadelphia lawyer in a shiny suit with a $500 haircut is waiting for me in the shadows. I know who is a danger to my life and who’s not. I also have faith in the US legal system and have served as a juror in a Federal civil rights case. The jurors are ME. We decide. We the People still decide. And we think about it, take it seriously and use Common Sense. It will work. I’m a witness to that.
Still, it doesn’t mean I give those in Congress a free pass. I read Old Atlantic’s roll and see one of my senators in the NAY column.
We will take notes, remember, talk and write among the people and eventually decide by secret vote. That will work too, but it takes time. It’s supposed to work that way. Public opinion is plastic in more than one sense of the word. Public opinions and plebiscites are ‘Tyranny of the Mob’ just like the Founding Fathers foresaw.
That’s exactly what President Bush has put in place over in Iraq: a system of ersatz democratic mob rule. It resembles nothing of our Founding Fathers’ intentions. The system in place is a third-rate mock-up of the principles of our Republic and a mockery of What Our Nation Should Stand For. Iraq’s system betrays our system at the foundation, where the Iraq model places a religious book at the apex of Iraq law and governance AND it gives that ultimate authority to the worst possible book available to humanity at this time in history. How utterly ignorant the Bush Administration shows itself to be.
I’ve begun to operate with a simple premise: people in office prior to 9/11 are more part of the problem than the solution. It’s the time of the season to turn the water over in the pond. I’m voting against anyone in office pre 9/11 from the Federal to the local level. I’ll continue to do this until I’m satisfied. That includes even local circuit judges. 9/11 is the turn of an epoch – of the mental model, of the meme if you will. Things should be restructured fundamentally. Those who had positions of authority and political power prior to 9/11 have a stake in the old model and will tend to favor it whether they’re aware of it or not. They need to be shown the door. Congress has an approval rating near 14% and that’s even worse than President Bush’s 23%. The Democrats have done nothing since the election other than show themselves willing to be led down the road path. People complain about congress, but what I see happening is the same old behavior… they’ll keep their poor bastard because he/she is ‘pretty good compared to the rest of the fools in congress’ I’m going to try and say all pre-9/11s need to go since we’re in a new era. I may convince someone, who knows, and I’ll counter the idea that ‘we may not get what we need’ with regardless of party or experience I’m going to do it. Party and experience have gotten us to where we’re at now. We have plenty of capable people who are intelligent enough to adapt and overcome any inexperience in the first year of their terms. So what? It’s not like efficiency in government process is what we’re after. It never has been. We have more bullshit regulations in place today than we can properly enforce anyway. We don’t need more paperwork – we need fewer, more flexible and more laws which better articulate the will of the people.
All this I have changed the way I think. I’ve moved away from support for the Democratic party, but haven’t ran to the Republicans. I don’t see either one as supporting nor defending solid, middle-class interests. The core of this nation is under assault from both the ‘right’ and ‘left’-- from both ‘Democrats’ and ‘Republicans’. I’m for the middle class core that built this nation and on which the health of our nation depends. I’m trying to be practical here, so I’ve been preparing for contingencies by stocking emergency supplies, equipment and tools. I’ve purchased additional self-defense type weapons and stocked up on ammunition but also have been educating myself about skills needed in any emergency situation. I’ve been giving much thought to emergency scenarios and what my family should do in each case. I’m signed up for training in CPR and other seminars in my local area through the citizen corps contacts. In short, I want to be more prepared for any emergency that should come up: fire, flood, tornado, earthquake, radiological bomb, chemical spill, nuke ( highly unlikely given my location and weather patterns) and so on. It’s actually good to have a jihadi threat in some ways since it keeps the watchdogs among us more alert and leaner.
Remember this: the courts have ruled that the police (local government) has no legal responsibility to protect the individual (you). It has a duty to defend and protect the community on the whole, but has no legal duty to protect you, Joe Blow and your 2.5 children specifically. No one will take care of you like YOU. No one has the duty to do so except YOU. And no one will save you in most cases when the shit hits the fan. Be Prepared. Stay on Watch.
at July 20, 2007 11:08 AM
'Ex-lover of Jesus'. What doe's that mean?
When you were a 'lover' of Jesus, what did that mean to you? How did you stop loving Jesus? Did he do something bad to you? You clearly have not the slightest idea what the word 'love' means, or how anyone filled with it behaves. You can't stop loving Jesus no matter what you do. Mohammad understood that, and made Jesus a Prophet. Now you can love Jesus, and be a muslim at the same time. Cool huh...Allah thinks of everything...So why are you antagonising Allah with this 'EX' lover stuff?
You better change that before he wakes up...
at July 20, 2007 11:15 AM
Obama, the man who'll protect an atheist's right to be an atheist but not a human's right to use his brain to report suspicious behaviour and possibly save lives in the process.
Obama, the man who stands for nothing very obvious.
Posted by: Josephine at July 20, 2007 11:23 AM
Um... how do you spell double jeopardy?
Misprision of Felony: "Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both." [United States Code, Title 18, Part I, Chapter I, Section 4 ]
at July 20, 2007 11:30 AM
quote
I’m voting against anyone in office pre 9/11 from the Federal to the local level.... Those who had positions of authority and political power prior to 9/11 have a stake in the old model and will tend to favor it whether they’re aware of it or not.
end quote
Plague_on_Both_Houses [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 20, 2007 11:08 AM
This is exactly right. They do tend to favor the old order as something ingrained in them. They can't change, so we have to change them.
Posted by: Old Atlantic at July 20, 2007 11:44 AM
LAWSUITS: THE LEFTS' FAVORITE FORM OF INTIMIDATION
For those of you who think that the Democrats' removing immunity from law suits from this Bill has no real impact....remember the amazing Flying Imams.
The Flying Imams PRETENDED to be terrorists knowing that people would report their suspicious activities JUST SO THEY COULD SUE THEM THE MOMENT THE PLANE TOUCHED DOWN.
If you thought CAIR and the ACLU--the two most degrading organization to our culture in the US--were going to sue your a@@ off for reporting suspicious activities, such as the obvious 9/11 re-enactment that the amazing Flying Imams were performing, there is no doubt that the fear of getting sued for it will absolutely have a chilling effect on whether or not people report this activity.
The net result is that the real terrorists have a better chance at succeeding when they act. And "succeeding" to a Muslim terrorist means lot of dead Americans.
The Dhimmicrats know this. The Dhimmicrats seem to be under the thumb of Satan.
Uncle Osama wants YOU to join the Democrat Party, for a better, more Islamic, America.
Posted by: Tookson at July 20, 2007 12:09 PM
Mr. Pearce said Democrats made a choice as to "whether they are going to side with the American people or with the terrorists."
'Nuff said.
Posted by: joeblough at July 20, 2007 12:13 PM
Someday I hope the ACLU or other groups like it bring suit against me for participating in a 'Flying Imams' situation. I would welcome that challenge.
Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at July 20, 2007 1:04 PM
duh_swami
Progressive has been asked that question numerous times, and he's never given an answer as to why he says he's an "ex-lover of Jesus", and he never will.
My guess is that he never knew Jesus in the first place; but he's trying to portray himself as someone who was ONCE a Christian, but now he's a Muslim. Which, IMO, is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to lure people away from Christianity and into the loving arms of allah (like, who would be so stupid).
Anyway, if I'm right about his motive, then allah must be pretty angry with progreassie because he hasn't won a single convert with this approach. Give this man a 'Salesman of the Year' award for zero converts -- allah hands them out everyday.
Posted by: champ at July 20, 2007 2:31 PM
bigcatgirl13106 wrote:
“In the end, if there is ever again another attack or a series of attacks in the USA, the Muslims of Dearborn and elsewhere will end up being subjected to an angry backlash from the rest of America. That will end up extending to those who supported them.”
Oh the mythical unicorn known as the backlash… I am Sorry bigcatgirl- the rest of America is not what is used to be. The hard work of Marxistcrats and Oligarchians have eroded America irreversibly. True unapologetic patriotism seems to rest in a minority of Americans fixed to a geographic belt in the American heartland who for the most part are cast as bigots due to the color of the skin of the majority of true patriots, viewed as ignorant simpleton by the elites who look down on them because they tend to be less educated and also more religious, viewed as powerless because true patriots do not have well-funded, well led, well organized and media savvy organizations pushing the patriot agenda. Alas, the true patriot is powerless in this later-day-America. I believe in the Jeffersonian axim: “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.”
at July 20, 2007 3:31 PM
Champ...I really dont expect 'Progressive' to defend the indefensable. I just posted that to expose the oxymoronish aspect of his declaration. This makes me wonder if he is a muslim at all, or just a pretender to the throne. How many times have you heard from muslims that they love and revere Jesus as a prophet? If "Progressinve' is an ex lover of Jesus,
he is out of step with his peers and the Quran. That would make him an apostate, a liar or both.
I dont think he is an apostate, that leaves....
Have a good day...
Posted by: duh_swami at July 20, 2007 3:42 PM
What's a bigger waste of time and space than trying to psychoanalyze "progressive's" nonsense?
Moles like that just want to distract us from the topic of the article and to degenerate our blog entries into inane chatter about people who really couldn't care less.
Posted by: Tookson at July 20, 2007 4:13 PM
Good point -- duh_swami -- I didn't think of that. He probably isn't a Muslim for the reasons you outlined, and we know he isn't a Christian. Guess God only knows!
Have a good day :)
Posted by: champ at July 20, 2007 6:59 PM
well , living so close to dearborn mich , and knowing that every nov 15 thru the 30 there are literally over 750,000 americans with guns at one time in the woods just to hunt deer ! Im not to worried about things ! but knowing that parts of our gov are trying to help out the jackass muslims by giving them there way ? scares the crap out of me !!!
Posted by: psycopatt1 at July 21, 2007 5:44 AM
I would suggest you view the video program on C-SPAN Book TV titled, Because They Hate: A Survivor of Islamic Terror Warns America featuring Brigitte Gabriel. I would also suggest you visit her website, American Congress for Truth. Radical Muslim terrorist have already infiltrated the U.S and is waiting to unleash their terror on America. When the body bombs start in Wal-Mart, then America will wake up. Congressional Democrats failed to include a provision in homeland security legislation that would protect the public from being sued for reporting suspicious behavior that may lead to a terrorist attack, according to House Republican leaders. THINK AMERICA!
Posted by: TopAssistant at July 21, 2007 1:23 PM
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