He's the enemy.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at July 26, 2007 3:07 PM

I found this YouTube video at LGF not long ago and decided to watch the crap.

LGF says: “Note: this video was posted at YouTube by CAIR themselves,”

And guess what? “Adding comments has been disabled for this video.”

Freedom of Speech in CAIR’S Islam is obviously not likely.

Posted by: The Other Mert at July 26, 2007 3:14 PM

So if someone ran into a mosque wildly brandishing an axe, and the police were rightfully summoned, should the purpetrator have the right to sue all the people because the cops were called?

Posted by: witness at July 26, 2007 3:14 PM

Islam attacks our Achilles heel -- Liberalism -- *every time*.

Posted by: Zeno at July 26, 2007 3:15 PM

I've posted the video too, with comments enabled: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf_H5doDdRk

Posted by: wrathofasma at July 26, 2007 3:15 PM

CAIR are like termites, busily eating away at the foundation of American society. CAIRmites.

Posted by: Wimbledon Womble at July 26, 2007 3:16 PM

So Americans defending against Islamic jihadis are nothing more than than KKK members, Mr. Ibrahim? You sonofabitch.

Bring. It. On.

Posted by: Zeno at July 26, 2007 3:21 PM

This Gary Hooper maggot, or whatever his name is, shows that he is on the wrong side every time he opens his oversized mouth. Let them keep talking on the news programs and making asses of themselves in public.

Posted by: Prickzilla at July 26, 2007 3:22 PM

I think CAIR has it right… no more comments are needed. Honest Ibe says it all in this video, yet another nail in the coffin of Hamas’ Propaganda/ Lawyer front group.

Posted by: senor doeboy at July 26, 2007 3:22 PM

Can the "John Doe" passengers sue this bloated piece of dung for slander? How typical that comments are disabled. Cowards like Hooper can not argue because the facts are against them.

Posted by: MP at July 26, 2007 3:24 PM

Usually people who call others, or make such references are usually the ones who have the problem and/or are more like the names that they call others.

Look at the left wingers - they call others facists, nazis, etc - and they are the ones who behave in that manner. Most don't even know the words that they call others.

Beware, if there is a day there is a muslim free flight, then they probably have warned the muslim communities that there will be something bad happening that day. And then when it happens they will turn around and blame the Jews, or George Bush, or anyone else and if printed and stated enough - enough loonies will believe them.

Posted by: R_not at July 26, 2007 3:26 PM

You mean the John Does were lighting crosses on the plane cabin? They weren't?? They didn't even have any with them? Hmmm...

I smell a rat. An Islamic propaganda rat (named Hooper)!

Poor, poor Islam, boo hoo hoo! Islam's only killed 300-plus million innocent people over thirteen centuries!!! CAIR would have us believe that this is a far higher tally than the less than 10,000 the KKK managed to off over one and a half centuries.

Posted by: pythagoras at July 26, 2007 3:27 PM

This is actually beneficial. Dougie, with his usual bravado, showing the true face of an already dubious organization in CAIR openly declares that the legislation will not preclude lawsuits. In his boasting he is assisting in proving that the legislation needs to be tweaked.

The blogs, and conservative radio and TV programs shaould and have started the discussion up again. Hopefully the parameters, "in good faith" and "reasonably objective suspicion" will receive a clarification from the Supreme Court before too long.

Instead of sitting back and quietly enjoying what is perceived as a minor victory by them, by way of the treasonous ultra-liberal leftists in our government, the Islamists always seem to shoot themselves in the foot.

Let these people speak. They usually say what they mean and mean what they say. They will enlighten the infidel to the true nature of Islam a lot faster than we ever will.

Posted by: awake at July 26, 2007 3:28 PM

You mean the John Does were lighting crosses on the plane cabin? They weren't?? They didn't even have any with them? Hmmm...

I smell a rat. An Islamic propaganda rat (named Hooper)!

Poor, poor Islam, boo hoo hoo! Islam's only killed 300-plus million innocent people over thirteen centuries!!! CAIR would have us believe that this is a far LOWER tally than the less than 10,000 the KKK managed to off over one and a half centuries.

Posted by: pythagoras at July 26, 2007 3:29 PM

Sometimes I get the feeling his a CIA mole doing his best to make Islam look as crazy as it really is.

Go, Dougie!

Posted by: profitsbeard at July 26, 2007 3:41 PM

How fitting Ibrahim "The Grand Dragon" Hooper would invoke the KKK, given that Islam is the KKK of religions. And the fact Islam is a far deadlier menace to the world than those white robed idiots were.

Hopefully, more and more Americans are dropping the blinders of political correctness and starting to see Islam's true supremacist nature.

Posted by: Proud Infidel at July 26, 2007 3:44 PM

I'll admit that my first reaction was to wish Doug Hooper a nice trip to hell...but I'm glad he's out there blabbing and representing his side of the story. The more he talks, the more people in 'flyover country' will stand up in righteous anger and oppose the islamo-nazi threat.

Posted by: livefreeordie! at July 26, 2007 3:45 PM

...the next time the dhimmicrats want to saddle up to CAIR...someone should whisper in their ear...psst hey buddy, they said your were representing the KKK...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at July 26, 2007 3:49 PM

Denmark the model?
“Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once Denmark’s Muslim population grows large enough - a not-that-remote prospect.”
http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2007/07/25/salute-the-danish-flag-it%e2%80%99s-a-symbol-of-western-freedom/

It is always the same, at first there are only a tiny minority of extremists but islamigration leads to islamization there are no examples of muslim secularization much less assimilation in the west, period. The way these islamists are behaving I won’t be surprised if A) They can be driven back by displaying a Cross, B) You might be protected from them if you wear a garlic necklace, C)They have no reflection when observed in a mirror, D) They only come out at night and, E) They feed on human blood.

Posted by: tgusa at July 26, 2007 3:49 PM

Isn't Hooper violating his own 'double standard' by blindly placing groups of people into a 'class' with the KKK comment?

Wouldn't Hooper and CAIR define Hoopers own comments as 'Hate Speach'?

Could Hooper please provide to the rest of us Americans what 'suspicious behaver' he WOULD allow us to report and which are we required to overlook?

Which religions are to be overlooked? Which color or race are we to overlook? Which language is to be overlooked?

Will Hooper now go on record and state that Saudi Arabia which investigates 'suspicious behavor' is the same as KKK? And why are muslim countries allowed to investigate and report 'suspicious behavor' but America is not allowed?

Would Hooper have a problem if I walked into a mosque with a long trench coat on with alot of bulgding things under the jacket? Or would he report me for 'suspicious behavor'?

Posted by: alaskan1000 at July 26, 2007 3:58 PM

Ibrahim Hooper is a fool, and a disgusting one at that, but I think a case could be made for the argument that the more he appears on various talk shows and makes his presence known (as well as his warped ideas) he does an unconscious service to those of us who detest his religion. In short, he's his own worst enemy and I don't mind that one bit, although I certainly understand how many would be so repulsed by the guy that that very repulsion supercedes all other considerations.

Posted by: Wellington at July 26, 2007 3:58 PM

I have to agree with Hooper about the muslim free flight. Sounds good to me.

Infidel Airways. Every seat covered in pigskin and every meal includes pork products.

With apologies to my Jewish friends. I'm not all that familiar with the finer points of Judism, is it ok to sit on pigskin seat covers?

And is there such a thing as kosher pork rinds? Of course the airlines don't even provide peanuts any more, so I guess that's a moot point any way.

Posted by: walterc at July 26, 2007 4:00 PM

Isn't Hooper violating his own 'double standard' by blindly placing groups of people into a 'class' with the KKK comment?

Wouldn't Hooper and CAIR define Hoopers own comments as 'Hate Speach'?

Could Hooper please provide to the rest of us Americans what 'suspicious behaver' he WOULD allow us to report and which are we required to overlook?

Which religions are to be overlooked? Which color or race are we to overlook? Which language is to be overlooked?

Will Hooper now go on record and state that Saudi Arabia which investigates 'suspicious behavor' is the same as KKK? And why are muslim countries allowed to investigate and report 'suspicious behavor' but America is not allowed?

Would Hooper have a problem if I walked into a mosque with a long trench coat on with alot of bulgding things under the jacket? Or would he report me for 'suspicious behavor'?

Posted by: alaskan1000 at July 26, 2007 4:00 PM

Thanks wrathofasma!! That is a much better website!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf_H5doDdRk courtesy of wrathofasma

Posted by: R_not at July 26, 2007 4:02 PM

Here's what CAIR is going for. Any person who reports suspicious behaviour, by their own evaluation, will have to be prepared to go to court to back up their report, JUST IN CASE, that report was discriminatory, so that only a court of law can decide. In other words, in the eyes of CAIR, Muslims are encouraged to "profile", you "John Doe Public", as a bigot, and a discriminator, until such time as YOU can defend yourself in court, and pay the costs as well.

This is nothing but a case of using our own freedoms and legal system against ordinary citizens, and exactly as predicted, on blogs such as this, for a long time now. We are seeing what we thought Muslims would do, fulfill it and do it. And there's lots more to come.

Posted by: sounder at July 26, 2007 4:04 PM

Because of Muslim terrorists, people in this country and all over the world will, from now on, lead lives far less pleasant, far more stressful, far more anxiety-ridden, than they would have been without this Jihad (unaceeptable whatever its instruments) conducted through terrorism. For, given the obvious weaknesses of Arabs and MUslims in military technology (all of it received from the West as before from both West and the Soviet bloc), in military training (American trainers can testify as to the brutality as a means of enforcement, that substitutes for military esprit de corps), and lack of social cohesion (in societies where the sauve-qui-peut individual, or at most family and tribe, are the essential unit), terrorism is the preferred form of qital, or combat.

Posted by: Hugh at July 26, 2007 4:04 PM

I think Mr. Hooper needs to see an eye specialist. He is blind as a bat. Regarding the passengers, the John and jane Does who acted in good faith in reporting suspicious activity makes him an absolute hypocrite when he says as long as the bill has "good faith" provisions. Not too long ago, treason was punishable by death in America.

Posted by: The Resistance at July 26, 2007 4:05 PM

What’s scary is that Hooper’s claim might be right that the newly worded John Doe protection provision will not prevent (costly) lawsuits like the anti-John Doe one in the flying Imam case.

In other words this provision may NOT really protect alert John Does as we want it to and as our politicians pretend. This would mean that our politicians have fooled us again and the Democrats (no doubt smiling about this successful flimflam) can keep getting their CAIR donations and Muslim block votes.

Posted by: FM at July 26, 2007 4:07 PM

Wow, a Muslim-free flight! I can't wait. No more having to wear a gas mask because of the body odor and no more goat hair on the seats as a result of their farewell encounter in the departure lounge. I can't wait.

Posted by: DTAM at July 26, 2007 4:07 PM

The only reason Hooper has that job is to add a white face in an attempt to lend credibility to their organization. However, it's racist and on the same lines as the KKK or Black Panthers.

Posted by: Bonniea at July 26, 2007 4:24 PM

'Infidel Airlines, safest in the world'-

right here:

http://sheikyermami.com/category/humor/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at July 26, 2007 4:24 PM

So basically , Hooper is advising me that if i hear of any attempt to bomb a Mosque or fire-bomb and Muslims home I should keep quiet because it would be "Racist" and malicious for me to pre-judge the actual intent of the bombers merely by suspicious actions and hear-say evidence.

Gotcha Hooper....thank you for clearing that up because CAIR engages in offering $$$$ for rat finks that report on other American Citizens believed to be behind the Islamophic vandalism
to Mosques and Muslim Houses .

Hmmmmmmm?

Wait a minute....CAIR offers reward money for bogus acts of arson or vandalism that is posted
on CAIR's Website as factual Police reports of Racist/anti-muslim bigotry , and then the Lawyers at CAIR finance the Reward Money by launching Lawsuits for any "Alleged" harm to Islam or Muslims that forces the John-Doe's into Bankruptcy via CAIR's Financial-Terrorism that's now intended to silence any Reporting of Jihad plots and suicide Hijackings of Planes.

BTW
anyone notice how Hooper now trims his beard and doesn't wear his skull-cap covering for the MSM image of the Victimhood hairshirt.
CAIR had a few Video's they pulled after someone pointed out that Hooper looked like a mindless prattling chimp that yelled and verbally abused the guest on a debate show about how Islam is a faith of Peace .
So keep in mind folks that Hooper is now advising people to not report any information about violent intents based on a perception that may be from a pre-existing bigotry and racism by a John-Doe , this includes rumours of plots to bomb Mosques or fire-bomb Muslims homes.
Muslims in American will only have themselves and CAIR to blame for any major attack that could have been avoided if the John-Doe's did have valid protection from CAIR Lawsuits that are malicious by their intent and put the onus on the accused to PROVE they aren't a Racist.

Posted by: ala-sux at July 26, 2007 4:25 PM

"terrorism is the preferred form of qital, or combat.

Posted by: Hugh "

...it is also the easiest to obtain, you are not trying to capture territory, you are not trying to free people, you are not trying to teach young people, you are not trying to reestablish border lines....alll you are trying to do is kill anyone who is not on your side....terror is made much easier when you have brain dead 7th century morons willing to drive a car loaded with explosives into a crowd and pull the cord....the people are helpless, there are no enemy in sight to fight, there are no tanks to attack, there are no planes to fire missles at, and there is no knowledge where to go or what to do....the people can only hope they do not get blown up tomorrow...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at July 26, 2007 4:27 PM

ala-sux,

What is a hairshirt as you posted above? Is this a new fangled shirt designed to protect your hair or does it have hair growing out of it?

Cordially,

Bonnie

Posted by: Bonniea at July 26, 2007 4:36 PM

Sandpaper Jihad.

These Muslims, like Hooper, will continually abraise Americans till they bleed.

Posted by: sounder at July 26, 2007 4:36 PM

Rew: CAIR's Hooper likens "John Doe" passengers to KKK

CAIR is a not yet indicted terrorist organization.

I don't think this fraud will work. In fact, it will backfire. Hooper's mind is clouded by his habits of deception (like that bum "An American") and he is blind to the effect his fraud has on the public.

Eventually, we are going to see the videos of the Flying Imams and their behavior on those planes and we will some day see Hooper and the CAIR frauds do the perp walk. CAIR and the Flying Imams have a lot of reason to feel stress.

CAIR as an unindicted terrorist-co-conspirator should be sued by its victims. It's Saudi masters should be made to pay up.

CAIR is not much different from the German American Bund of the 1930's. In any case, some day we will all hear the tapes and see the vieos and as the saying goes, "what was hidden will be shouted from the rooftops".

Posted by: Frank at July 26, 2007 4:46 PM

typical liberal/socialist/islamic response to anyone not agreeing with their totalitarian idealolgies is to brand the arguer as a racist, a "neo-fascist" or islamophobic.
sorry guys and gals but it's gonna take a hiroshima attack in a western city to wake up the "ordinary" public. just gonna be horrible to witness this event in our life time.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at July 26, 2007 4:48 PM

Oh, the "Grand Dragon of the KKK", who knew?
So anyone who suspects moslems who are changing seats all over the airliner, praying loudly (allahu ackbar!), and trying to be noticed as a threat, is the KKK? Remember that a lot of us Kufr heard "allahu ackbar" as they were blown to bits...just might be a little unsettling...but don't you dare report them, because you cannot afford it.
Funny how Ibe becomes Doug (without his cover) when he wants to be "american". He is using our system against us to bring it down from the inside.

Posted by: interestinconundrum at July 26, 2007 4:53 PM

Good Article on Denmark, Tgusa...

"“In my view, Denmark should be a country with room for different cultures and religions. Some values, however, are more important than others. We refuse to question democracy, equal rights, and freedom of speech.”"

democracy, equal rights, the freedom of speech, and the right to drink beer!!!

See Denmark may be a bit ahead of the curve in cracking down on their Islamic problems... a bit reactive as opposed to proactive, but hey we won't hold that against them. It's human nature.... but they are ahead of the curve. Nonetheless, you tell the Germanic peoples that they cannot drink their beer, and yes, that is forbidden under the Sharia law... and ceetainly, they will have a civil war on their hands, and the proponents of Sharia will be whipped badly.

Posted by: ThinkForYourself at July 26, 2007 5:09 PM

I never understand why nobody just calls him a sexist or a bigot. Everytime he brings out this oppressed muslim bit or goes of in fantasy land comparing the passangers to the KKK why not call him on the rug for his support of Sharia Law. Sharia law is sexist is it not. Sharia Law in bigoted against other religions is it not. Thus if you support a bigoted and sexist law code does that not make you sexist and bigoted.

Even the so called conservatives never do this. Just go after him. Sling mud because that is about all that will be done when Dougie is in the room. Fight fire with fire!

He yells racism respond with...

Islam is not a race but you sir are a sexist and a bigot.

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at July 26, 2007 5:09 PM

greatcometof1577

but that strategy would require brain power.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at July 26, 2007 5:43 PM

leonthepigfarmer-

"...but that strategy would require brainpower."

Spot on.

A band of intolerant, arrogant, imperialistic schmucks following a pedophile, plagiarist, thief, slaveholder and misogynist warlord, and the interviewers give this raft of malignant details a pass?

Posted by: profitsbeard at July 26, 2007 6:00 PM

CAIR really stands for "Council on Arab-Infidel Relations" -- if I haven't pointed that out a couple hundred times already.

They're just letting us know how it's going to be.

Posted by: Goob at July 26, 2007 6:09 PM

Twenty bucks says we’ll never know the religion of the subcontractor who sabotaged space shuttle Endeavour’s computers by cutting wires.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070726/D8QKGG200.html

Hey NASA, we can handle it.

Posted by: pez at July 26, 2007 6:10 PM

Frank -- That's just too gross and racist to boot. I didn't know I was in a (low-class) men's locker room or poolhall.

I agree with the first three sentences in your post but the rest is gutter talk.

Let's raise the bar a bit.

Posted by: Josephine at July 26, 2007 6:26 PM

Lady Josephine-

I'll be good-someday. In the meantime I'll be polite, dear. I'll try.

Posted by: Frank at July 26, 2007 6:33 PM

ThinkForYourself,
Thanks. Yes beer and bratwurst are out unless you would rather fight than switch. We could call it the Heineken rebellion or the Bratwurst uprising something along those lines.

Posted by: tgusa at July 26, 2007 6:42 PM

Frank -- "Lady Josephine" -- I like the sound of that. I might use it if I ever have my own blog.

;)

Posted by: Josephine at July 26, 2007 7:01 PM

Can't we get this guy something special?
like...a new playbook?
a new agitprop line?
or even...a LIFE, for that matter?

Posted by: jcom972 at July 26, 2007 7:43 PM

Hooper is mixing up his monsters. The KKK is villainous. Those who the KKK sought were victims.

But now he wants to paint a tale that John Doe is villainous and the potential terrorist is the victim.

I know of several thousand people who died on 911 and their families that would strongly disagree as to who the victims are and who they are not.

Hooper would like us to think that we are to blame for a muslim's discomfort in an airlplane. Actually, it is the muslims own fault, for their own people created this situation, by exploiting our system and passing through our security. I've got absolutely no sympathy for poor mr. muslim at an airport. His own people fractured his relationship with our culture....don't blame us. And CERTAINLY don't CRY like you want SPECIAL PROTECTION. If you were really interested in protection, you would have blown the whistle before 911 to protect those victims. You aren't victims. You're villainous. Masquerading as victims. But I'll tell you who else are victims...the thousands and thousands of muslims around the world that we have wasted in response to your declared war on America. Yes, your own people who started this are responsible for bringing the wrath of the United States of America on muslim scum around the globe. So if you want to complain and whine and cry, start in Saudi Arabia.

But I've got a solution. No more muslims on US planes.

Posted by: angryeagle at July 26, 2007 7:45 PM

I agree with walterc and Hooper - hopefully the day will come when we have Muslim-free flights.

Had Flight 93 - where all the Muslims on the flight were the hijackers - been a Muslim free flight, there would have been no fourth hijacking.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at July 26, 2007 7:47 PM

Ibrahim Cooper: World's Most Dangerous Terrorist.

Posted by: GetBornAgain at July 26, 2007 8:14 PM

I wish Tucker had said that the KKK are terrorists, and that is what we're trying to stop, terrorism.

Posted by: kevin at July 26, 2007 8:39 PM

Darn, I can see the video, but Allah shut off the sound. It was interesting trying to read Ibrahim's lips.
Sort of a Geo Bush Sr,' read my lips ' moment.
He said 'Allahu Akbar', any number of times and seemed to be reciting Quran verses under his breath.
Watch the video with no sound, study his lip movements and his eyes, what do you think?

Posted by: duh_swami at July 26, 2007 9:50 PM

Just to expand on Josephine's exchange with Frank.

I do think that all of us here need to think and count to ten before we post. We don't want to put off modest people by extreme vulgarities, or, say, feminists by sweeping generalisations about their supposed politics (or by assuming that they are all man-haters who hate babies), or gays. We want EVERY non-Muslim visitor to stay and find out exactly why they should be coldly, rationally, intelligently angry about the Islamists' plans for them.

We don't want teenage schoolkids barred from visiting because their parents don't like the language. We don't want our resident angry atheists driving the religious folk away - or the religious folk driving away the atheists! (Note to any atheist here who may dislike the 'religious' POV of some of my posts: my brother is a card-carrying old-fashioned rationalist atheist and I love him; and I LOVE Ms Ayaan Hirsi Ali, go go girrl, go get 'em!). And: since everybody who is not a Muslim is threatened equally by the Jihad, we have to be careful about alienating people who have, say, different political views. Resistance to jihad and sharia should be from all parties.

Speaking as a 43 year old Christian matron with four kids: when I first visited here, I found some of the comments pretty shocking. It was only my regard for Robert himself, who is a perfect gentleman in writing, and for Mr Fitzgerald, and for brilliant posters like Dominic, that kept me reading, all the way through the archives. Someone else with a weaker stomach and less objectivity might have given up, and left.

I mostly don't mind the robust level of language and debate at this site. I imagine it as a cross between a war room, a bunker, and an 18th century tavern, coffee house or club. It does have a 'male' vibe. I don't mind that, so long as - like Rowlings' Hermione or Mrs Weasley - I'm allowed to say my piece.

But: beyond a certain level of 'rough', the tone of some comments may drive away potential readers whom we really want to invite to stay, and learn, and hone their thinking and debating skills so they can see through the fog of daawa and taqiyya (a rich, ripe, example of which has just been provided by Mr Ibrahim Hooper).

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at July 26, 2007 10:03 PM

pez

"Twenty bucks says we’ll never know the religion of the subcontractor who sabotaged space shuttle Endeavour’s computers by cutting wires."

Yea...I noticed that too...

Thought the same thing too when I first read it..

I know NASA well so this could be a real terror act or just a really stupid contractor and NASA is trying to blame someone else for their failure.

It is time to do a little digging....this is a government operation...

:)

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at July 26, 2007 10:10 PM

pez

Also you could blame the union...there is a strike after all.

:)

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at July 26, 2007 10:12 PM

I agree with Josephine and Dumbledoresarmy.

That comment was quite over the top.

Posted by: MarisolJW at July 26, 2007 10:14 PM

Hummm...Muslim free flight..

Reminds me of the one..

An American and a Muslim are watching Star Trek when the Muslim turns to the American and says;
"How come there is a Chinese guy, a Russian, a scotsman and loads of others but there are no Muslims on the Enterprise?"
The American replies;
"Because its set in the future!"

Maybe Hooper is a prophet..

Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA at July 26, 2007 10:33 PM

All "Hoop" manages to do by saying that is prove the old maxim:

"NEVER listen to anything a Muslims says!"

Posted by: pythagoras at July 26, 2007 10:36 PM

I want to second dumbledoresarmy. We need to keep in mind the necessity of unity among all non-Muslims. During the course of its history, Islam has often dominated by exploiting division among non-Muslims. See The Legacy of Jihad and the Fate of Non-Muslims by Andrew Bostom.

To me, as someone who leans a bit conservative, that means taking care to reach out, wherever possible, to the democratic Left, to learn from them whenever possible, to read their authors (the New Republic, the Nation), listen to their concerns carefully, avoid disagreement with them if not essential, always try to give credit to anything of value in their views.

Said dumbledoresarmy:

I do think that all of us here need to think and count to ten before we post. We don't want to put off modest people by extreme vulgarities, or, say, feminists by sweeping generalisations about their supposed politics (or by assuming that they are all man-haters who hate babies), or gays. We want EVERY non-Muslim visitor to stay and find out exactly why they should be coldly, rationally, intelligently angry about the Islamists' plans for them.

We don't want teenage schoolkids barred from visiting because their parents don't like the language. We don't want our resident angry atheists driving the religious folk away - or the religious folk driving away the atheists! (Note to any atheist here who may dislike the 'religious' POV of some of my posts: my brother is a card-carrying old-fashioned rationalist atheist and I love him; and I LOVE Ms Ayaan Hirsi Ali, go go girrl, go get 'em!). And: since everybody who is not a Muslim is threatened equally by the Jihad, we have to be careful about alienating people who have, say, different political views. Resistance to jihad and sharia should be from all parties.

Posted by: traeh at July 26, 2007 11:22 PM

Ibrahim Hooper looks like a thug I remember.

What was his 'merican name before he made it Abraham Cracksh*t?

Posted by: credit man at July 26, 2007 11:34 PM

Hooper is mixing up his monsters. The KKK is villainous. Those who the KKK sought were victims".
Posted by: angryeagle at July 26, 2007 7:45 PM

For real, there is something about this guy
Hooper..

Is Hooper stupid or ignorant?
The comparison would be a black person Or a Jew seeing six KKK members or Skin heads or maybe a Nazi or two,
Acting suspicious, boarding a plane, asking for belts, joking about lynching’s',
Saying "hail Halter".
All I’m sure would be fine and dandy if it had not been just five years ago a group just like that took over a flight, lynched the black pilot and crashed the plane into a Jewish temple killing all on board and in the temple.
Being responsible citizens they alert the proper people but because for some strange twist in the twisted world of mockery these good people(black or Jew)are being sued.

That Mr. Hooper is the comparison that fits the bill.
Cair should sack you for your incompetence.

Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA at July 26, 2007 11:56 PM

wrathofasma

Thx for putting YOUR video up at YouTube.

I just posted a comment.

So far John Does 22 CAIR 0

Posted by: Leave Iraq Now at July 26, 2007 11:59 PM

CAIR has to forced to pay punitive damages for bringing frivolous lawsuits

and they have to be huge fines

because the Saudis who fund them have lotsa money

and CAIR has to disclose who is giving them money

Posted by: ploome at July 27, 2007 12:38 AM

Dougie isn't looking very islamic in this video, but he makes up for it with his foaming-at-the-mouth invective and ridiculous analogies. My grandfather used to tell me stories about the KKK and their nefarious activities in rural Mississippi during the 40's and 50's. They dressed up in white hoods and long white robes, burned crosses, and lynched and terrorized blacks for alleged offenses against the white community. They did their dirty work at night, under cover of darkness. They were diehard segregationists and white supremacists who took great care to hide their identities under their pointed hoods.

Hooper's comparison of the John Does with the KKK is beyond ridiculous; there are absolutely no similarities whatsoever. The very sight of Hooper makes my skin crawl and my blood boil. His arrogant, impundent demeanor and his strident rhetoric are maddening; he is a despicable traitor to his own country. I really wish the cable news channels and talk radio would ignore this mendacious, vile little pimp for islam and quit giving him free air time to disparage Americans and promote islam and jihad. True, he does plenty of damage to his own cause by defending our enemies and condemning his own people, but he might just fade into oblivion if everyone ignored him.

Posted by: Susanp at July 27, 2007 12:47 AM

The behavior of the flying imams was like intentionally rubbing salt in the wound of 9/11. These imams, like Al Queda, are mortal enemies of the U.S.

If Hooper is right, and the John Doe law doesn't stop the lawsuits against those who reported the imams, I hope Americans raise absolute hell over it.

It galls me that the imams, who should be prosecuted, so far are getting away with suing their own victims. Talk about gall. But Muslims often victimize some group and then pretend to be the victim of that group. If I could, I would bankrupt Hooper and his funders and the imams in a heartbeat.

The imams intentionally behaved in a way to scare people on that plane. The point was to set up a discrimination case. That is obvious, but we currently lack witnesses to the conspiracy among those imams, so cannot prove it in court.

The fact that these imams would exploit 9/11 and intentionally behave like hijackers warming up, to me means they deserve to go to jail for 20 years. Americans should be incredibly angry about the way this has played out so far. One can only hope that the FBI will somehow receive evidence of and witnesses to the conspiracy of these imams. Newt Gingrich is the only significant political figure I know of who said the imams should be prosecuted. Giuliani recently pointed out that in the Democratic candidate debates, none of the candidates managed to use the expression "Islamic terror." Giuliani said the fact that they couldn't bring themselves to even utter those words showed they are in denial. Giuliani did not say "Islamist terror." He said "Islamic terror," and he said it more than once.

If people want to report suspicious behavior, and don't want to lose life savings, they may be faced with having to write something on a piece of paper, give it to the flight attendant or whoever, say the paper was found on the floor and contains an urgent message.

It would be easier to pray for Muslims if they weren't currently trying to destroy more than a thousand years of social progress and set themselves up as dictators over the rest of us.

Posted by: traeh at July 27, 2007 1:03 AM

Maybe we could make available to everyone, through the internet, a form letter any passenger could carry with him on a plane. If necessary, the passenger could fill in the blanks on the form and then anonymously turn in the letter, "found on the floor." It could say something like:

Dear Captain or Flight Attendant:

As of (fill in time) _______ on (fill in date) ________, a passenger in seat (fill in blank) _______ is behaving suspiciously in the following ways (check all those that apply):

Talking appreciatively about Osama bin Laden or terrorist groups

Taking a backpack into the bathroom with him

Praying Islamic prayers loudly

Sweating, behaving paranoidly and nervously

Asking for seat belt extenders, even though not obese

Showing familiarity with other Muslims on the plane who acted like strangers to each other in the airport lounge

Sitting in seats not assigned to them, that happen to be by all the exit doors

Using a cigarette lighter or matches to ignite some part of shoes or clothing

other: please describe

The letter could be handed in anonymously.

Maybe there is something to this idea, if it could be more thoroughly worked out. If Hooper and his cohorts can do an end run around America, maybe America can do an end run around him, too.

Posted by: traeh at July 27, 2007 1:31 AM

Please stop worrying about being sued. You don't have to be a lawyer to know that you have the right to self defense. It is based on your frame of mind. You can kill someone if you think, legitimately, that they are going to harm or kill you or others. No lawsuit can win against you if the determining factor is your frame of mind. It is a constitutional right and it is absolute. Between our right to free speech, (you can say what you want about anyone, as long as it is not malicious or meant to harm them without cause. Expressing a concern for ones or others safety could never be considered malicious if your observations, upon investigation by the authorities, were not totally baseless in what they seemed to show), and our right to self defense we are covered. An honest mistake is not malice. Let them have their right to sue. If a reasonable person expresses a reasonable concern, a person belittling or insulting them in public would be open to libel and slander suits. Those knives they are so fond of cutting peoples heads off with cut both ways

Posted by: realety at July 27, 2007 2:47 AM

"CAIR's Ibrahim Hooper likens "John Doe" passengers to KKK"

That's how the game is played. Hooper speaks as if the KKK is some kind of immoral, loathsome organization that a really moral person would be offended by, and, Hooper, as a Muslim, is naturally repelled by everything the KKK stands for.

It's unfortunate but many people buy this kind of deception. They assume that if a Muslim critizes the KKK, Islam must be morally better.

It reminds of the NAZIS before the second world war. They expressed a rabid hatred of the Soviet Union, which in some minds made them morally better than the Communist. Others thought the Communist were morally better because of their bitter hatred of the NAZIS.
The truth was that they were birds of the same feather. They were both monsterously evil systems.

Frankly, if I had to make a moral comparison between the KKK and Islam, the KKK would win hands down. No one fears the KKK anymore. They just put on their robes anf burn a cross occassionally. Muslims, on the other hand, are terrorizing people all over the globe. They blow airliners out of the sky, don't hesitate to kill even the youngest of childrenand are determined to impose their evil religion on the rest of us.

Mr. Hooper had better take a good look at Islam, and forget about the KKK. The KKK is a fountain of morality compared to what he's into.

Posted by: rational at July 27, 2007 3:11 AM

Realety,

You are absolutely correct. Look what happened when CAIR sued Andrew Whitehead of Anti-CAIR; Andrew said, go ahead, I don't have any money anyway. And they did and CAIR screwed themselves when the depositions revealed they did have ties to terrorist organizations, just like Andrew said so, and they dropped the suit. And the judge dismissed the case with prejudice.

Perhaps we need more lawsuits rather than less because whenever these are brought about someone pulls the rock back and reveals Islam for what it really is. And we need the Muslims who bring these fraudulent suits to be forced to pay for the defendant's court costs, any lawyer's fees and pain and suffering.

And just remember that if this ever happens to any of you write everything down. Sit down when it's still fresh in your mind and take copious notes. I've watched Hooper play this game so many times. He keeps repeating something as if we will all believe it just because he said so. Well the people who saw the imams acting suspiciously know what they saw, and no amount of lying or shell game tactics is going to change that.

The intimidation that Muslims rely on to force other people to let them have their way is really getting so old. 1400 years of it is enough. Time to fight back with a vengeance.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at July 27, 2007 3:23 AM

I was surprised that Tucker didn't bother to explain to the CAIR Bear that no KKK 'dragon' has ever tried to kick off any African Americans from air flights.

That is solely in the lap of those who have already perpetrated such things, uh, like the many hijackers that have brought planes down.

Posted by: Kay at July 27, 2007 4:22 AM

I'm assuming Frank's "over the top" comment has been deleted ? It would have been interesting to read it.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at July 27, 2007 7:56 AM

Can't seem to get the links to work. Did Youtube remove them?

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC at July 27, 2007 9:26 AM

Some day, in the days after the big bombing, Mr. Hooper will face something like the KKK. The coming terrorist acts that he'd rather us ignore will be his own undoing.

We have a berserker strain that rests beneath the placid waters of Lake Woebegone. What lies beneath is the Leviathon of olde, but since the olde is part of our days of pre-islamic ignorance I suppose this hidden reality is dismissed by Mr. Hooper and the rest of those bad-intentioned people living in the United States. This Loc Ness monster does exist and if Mr. Hooper and his brothers fail to cease and desist something far worse than the KKK will be knocking at their doors and without the masks and in broad daylight.

Fools.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at July 27, 2007 9:28 AM

dumbledoresarmy:

I absolutely agree. This is an information war---a propaganda war. Many of us who post comments on this site are aching to do something, but the first rule should be do no harm.

From my own personal experience, I know that I did not cross over from my pre-JihadWatch perspective to my current perspective in a day. We need to facilitate people moving in a directionally correct manner.

Each of us is a foot soldier in this conflict. Lets keep our eyes on the prize.

Posted by: JSobieski at July 27, 2007 12:52 PM

dumbledoresarmy:

I absolutely agree. This is an information war---a propaganda war. Many of us who post comments on this site are aching to do something, but the first rule should be do no harm.

From my own personal experience, I know that I did not cross over from my pre-JihadWatch perspective to my current perspective in a day. We need to facilitate people moving in a directionally correct manner.

Each of us is a foot soldier in this conflict. Lets keep our eyes on the prize.

Posted by: JSobieski at July 27, 2007 12:52 PM

If I see a muhammadan "allah-akbaring" on a plane I'm flying in, I will run down the aisle and make a flying leap onto said muhammadan's head. I'm not kidding at all! I'll smear his face with the ham & cheese on a kaiser roll I have saved for lunch.

I rather savor the idea. Dead or alive, it will be my finest moment.

I'm absolutely serious.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at July 27, 2007 1:07 PM

XRDC,

Go to R_not's post above from yesterday at 4:02 PM and it will come right up.

JSobieski & Ynkedoodle2,

I totally agree that first we do no harm. But I also believe we need to be prepared to respond in case of an attack, perhaps especially on an airplane.

I remember a week after 9/11, there was a story going around the internet about an airline pilot who came on the loud speaker before taking off and told everybody to look to their left and look to their right and become acquainted with the people they were sitting with because for the next few hours they were going to be like a family. He then said that if anyone started to act suspiciously, like they were going for the cockpit, that he was giving permission for everybody on board to pick up whatever was nearest them, a book, their shoe, pillows, water bottles, and heave it at the guy(s) head(s. He said if the passengers would get these guys down to the floor the pilot would make an emergency landing and get the bad guys off the plane.

Now this I love. When I first heard this it dawned on me that there is definitely an etiquette regarding plane travel and most Americans follow it to the letter. We get on the plane and we are quiet. We respect the space of others because it is so tight. For the most part we use our manners and I know I always feel subconsciously that I would never consider making a scene or acting disruptively. But now that that pilot has given us permission to protect our own, I'm all about it. I will be flying a few times in the next quarter and I'm thinking about what I could bring on board that isn't illegal but that could be used in self defense. I have a great leather purse that is just the right size and has a shoulder strap that could be useful. A couple of small water bottles tucked inside and that could really make a mess out of somebody if it was swung at their head.

Like ynkedoodl2, I wouldn't mind getting involved. Hey, what's the alternative? I was searching for something on You Tube the other day and ran into the videos of the twin towers being attacked. I think everybody should go back and take a look at those videos every few months or so to remind us of what they did and what they are continuing to do to us. And remembering the stories of slashing some of the flight attendants with those box cutters just steels my resolve to never let it happen again.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at July 27, 2007 3:17 PM

Ynkedoodl2,

I too am waiting for an opportunity.

Isabellathecrusader,

I have not had any problems taking a metal pen with me on flights. Also, remember that a beard makes a great handle.

Like Zeno says, Bring It On.

Posted by: Infidel at July 27, 2007 3:51 PM

Infidel,

I'm picturing the scene from "Red Eye" where Rachel McAdams rams the pen in the bad guy's throat. Euwwwwwww! But if the pen fits...

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at July 27, 2007 4:25 PM

Isabellathecrusader,

That would be the obvious target. Easier said than done, no doubt. "But if the pen fits..." good one! :)

Posted by: Infidel at July 27, 2007 4:39 PM

Posted by: traeh [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 27, 2007 1:31 AM:

Traeh - Right on!.

If one were to go about what you suggest, then I would recommend that one make a visit to the restroom and then drop off this anonymous message at the stewardess service station.

But to strip the concept further down to its essentials, I would recommend merely noting the seat number(s) of the suspected jihadists. Winnowing down your initial, quite intelligent approach to this problem, John Doe might merely fill in the following blank anonymously, and drop it off surreptitiously at the stewardess station when no one is looking (we're all Nancy Drew now!):

"A passenger in seat (fill in blank) _______ is behaving suspiciously."

Posted by: Caroline at July 27, 2007 9:06 PM

Caroline, I like your abbreviation of the idea:

John Doe might merely fill in the following blank anonymously, and drop it off surreptitiously at the stewardess station when no one is looking (we're all Nancy Drew now!):

A passenger in seat (fill in blank) _______ is behaving suspiciously."

Realety, you said:

Stop worrying about being sued...No lawsuit can win against you if the determining factor is your frame of mind.

Even if you win the lawsuit, merely defending against it can sometimes bankrupt you. That could cause a lot of people who have built up savings over a lifetime to hesitate precisely at the moment when quick action is needed.

Posted by: traeh at July 28, 2007 4:01 AM

Ibrahim 'Taqiya Monkey' Hooper is human feces, a despicable creature that God must be ashamed of...

absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
pretend to be terrorists

scare people on a plane
get thrown off cry racism

absurd thought -
God of the Universe thinks
plan jihad for longest term

outbreed the infidels
one day vote in sharia
.

Posted by: USpace at July 28, 2007 9:11 PM