Ellison says: "So they're not trying to just bomb people into submission. What they're doing is respecting the people, giving the people some control over their own lives."

I find it interesting that Ellison refers to American forces as "they". Not "us" or "we".

Posted by: atheling at August 1, 2007 11:38 AM

I am offended by all of this. Ellison is not being asked to help them while he didn't even want to help them in the first place?! And it is not clear where his loyalties lie either - to islam or the USA. Ellison is a prime example of someone practicing taqiyya and he fits right into the democrat party since their words are just as muddled.

Ellison has shown by his voting record that he is no help and now he behaves as if he could be their savior? He is totally against our troops and their funding.

I also find it offensive that our we are throwing money at them, our troops are wishing muslims well and dying for their disgusting behinds while they cannot even say the proper words back to them - just because they are not a freaking muslim?! I find their 'religion' offensive to me.

Posted by: R_not at August 1, 2007 12:14 PM

Seems the Saudis have found their useful idiot tool. Didn't take them long to convert him.

Posted by: Kalifornia Kafir at August 1, 2007 12:17 PM

Seems the Saudis have found their useful idiot tool. Didn't take them long to convert him.

Posted by: Kalifornia Kafir at August 1, 2007 12:19 PM

Seems the Saudis have found their useful idiot tool. Didn't take them long to convert him.

Posted by: Kalifornia Kafir at August 1, 2007 12:24 PM

"it is forbidden in Islamic law, to wish peace upon a non-Muslim"

Is there a document containing the Islamic law? I mean, so that it makes easy to show people how bad sharia is?

Posted by: calatrava at August 1, 2007 12:27 PM

Great comments from all of the posters above.Ellison is a dangerous man, in many ways and to many different people. What I find most offensive is that he is another African-American, willing to carry the water for the Arab Muslims. For centuries, including to the present day, Africans have been enslaved, used and abused by Arabs, all in the name of Islam. Unfortunately, the Arab/Saudi money/public relations/educational machine has been able to hide this fact from many African-Americans, calling them, 'brothers' and pretending that they (the Arabs) were united with African-Americans against all things Western. Lies, Lies, Lies...but, there sits Mr. Ellison in the US Congress, growing more powerful as he likely gets re-elected time after time, with plenty of campaign money from his good friends at CAIR and elsewhere.

Posted by: maryrose at August 1, 2007 1:02 PM

Hard to say who is a misunderstander of Islam with out a score card anymore.

Posted by: KAOSKTRL at August 1, 2007 1:06 PM

Assalamau Laikum all,

You know I always get surprised when you slag Ellison off. It is obvious that the Kaffur cannot help the Iraqis sheik the necessary political legs to help bring peace.

Ellison maybe able to help...what's wrong with that? He has been an elected rep...he is not making it up....YOU elected the man into office.

If it helps the Iraqs...and ultimately you....then good on him.

Remember that any and all who go to Iraq are risking their very lives ...and Elliscon needs to be given a medal just for his bravery in exploring the options.

Perhaps it maybe better to fly in the sheiks to the Florida and meet Ellison there. The sheiks could bring along their wives & childrens and have a holiday (in safety) at the same time.

Makes much sense to this muslima.

Posted by: Naseem at August 1, 2007 1:08 PM

Muslim Terrorists just killed 50 muslims with a truck bomb in Iraq. Yet this scab accuses OUR soldiers of bombing Iraqis into submission!

No, Mr. Ellison, it is muslims inspired by the example of Mohammed and the message of the Koran who attempt to bomb people IN to "Submission".

It is our soldiers who should be attempting to bomb muslims OUT of "Submission",i.e., bomb them OUT of Islam.

Posted by: november1981 at August 1, 2007 1:15 PM

WASHINGTON (AP) — Rep. Keith Ellison made a weekend trip to Iraq, where a pair of sheiks urged Congress' only Muslim lawmaker to help in countering al-Qaeda's vision of Islam.

The best thing Ellison can do is pick up a copy of "The Bible." He will be amazed at the eloquence, at the dramatic verisimilitude, at the profound insight and inspirational force of this true work of the One True Living God. And hopefully, if he's not a complete retard, apostasize from that blasphemous bullshit called islam.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at August 1, 2007 1:16 PM

Naseem - Glad to hear the you have time to worry about us here in the goo ol' U.S. A. How are things in the vicinity of the 'Red Mosque"? What color is it this week?

Posted by: MP at August 1, 2007 1:17 PM

"it is forbidden in Islamic law, to wish peace upon a non-Muslim"

I'm not for Islamic Sharia in any way, shape or form in my country. If they want it they can get it in far sunnier places than here.

But here's a thing. I love spicy food, it is the best type of food ever made and I have deliveries regulary. The Muslim delivery man has always been pleasant and friendly. Taqhiya?

I've sold my house and I am moving away this week. So half a dozen Stella Artois later (2am) I got the need for one last meal from my local. I didn't realise it was so late, the shop was shut, but the boss organised me a tasty meal on the cheap and the delivery man shook my hand and wished me luck when he was already an hour over his bed time.

He is a Muslim, he doesn't like my dog, but the postman hates her more. He is always decent and over a few years I happen to like the bloke.

His last words:

"Good luck."

Posted by: The Other Mert at August 1, 2007 1:19 PM

Let's not misunderstand Paki...

"We" did not elect him !

A small majority of dumbass FOOLs in a small district in ONE(1) of 50 states in America elected him.

Posted by: billybob at August 1, 2007 1:31 PM

The Other Mert writes:
“He is a Muslim, he doesn't like my dog, but the postman hates her more. He is always decent and over a few years I happen to like the bloke.”

And your point?............I assume you are suggesting that muslims can be 'good' people too. Why not? There is nothing wrong with the ‘people’ themselves only the obviously violent ‘religion’ the have become obedient too. As far as your choice of beer, Stella Artois?……well we have some serious talking to do, bloke?

Posted by: descendantofacrusader at August 1, 2007 1:39 PM

Mert - Several years back I read a book about the Dunkirk (sp) evacuation in 1940. The account included interviews with soldiers from a British regiment tasked with fighting a rear guard action that was designed to allow thousands of other soldiers enough time to be evacuated. After significant casualties, and running low on ammunition, they finally were forced to surrender to the Germans. The road they had been blocking, by pure coincidence, divided the area of responsibility between a regular Wehrmacht infantry division, and a Waffen-SS armored formation. British prisoners who fell into the hands of the Wehrmacht troops received food and medical care, and overall decent treatment as prisoners of war. Those captured by the SS troopers were shot out of hand. The level of fanaticism involved in training informed the conduct of the Germans.

Posted by: MP at August 1, 2007 1:40 PM

I'm not for Islamic Sharia in any way, shape or form in my country. If they want it they can get it in far sunnier places than here. But here's a thing. I love spicy food, it is the best type of food ever made and I have deliveries regulary.

Posted by: The Other Mert

WTF?

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at August 1, 2007 1:48 PM

Ellison's track record speaks for itself-----Nation of Islam, comparing Bush to Hitler a la Reichstag fire, etc., but what caught my eye was Ellison quoting the two sheiks saying they were "upset and concerned that al-Qaeda is misrepresenting Islam." Uh, huh. Exactly how is al-Qaeda misrepresenting Islam? It seems to represent it pretty damn well as near as I can make out.

Posted by: Wellington at August 1, 2007 1:51 PM

"Ellison said he would assist in any way he can. He is already helping a State Department outreach effort aimed at improving the image of the U.S. in the Muslim world."

Gag.

Improving the image of the US in the muslim world. Unbelievable. Yep, America - that hotbed of evil, oppression and hatred. A country that welcomes, and caters to, muslim immigrants.

And now the muslims want the revert Ellison to help them give the world a "clearer, more accurate picture of what Islam is all about" ?
Maybe he should refer people to Jihad Watch and the other websites which really do give an accurate picture of the face of islam.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at August 1, 2007 1:56 PM

Simple:

Make Ellison the president of Iraq, give him a Humvee and a gun and pull the plug.

Iraq has a president and we won the war.

Mission accomplished.

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at August 1, 2007 1:57 PM

'...fly the sheiks to Florida...' by Naseem

I don't think so - let the sheiks and their families live in the sty they help to create.

Posted by: R_not at August 1, 2007 2:09 PM

PEOPLE OT, BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT.

I CAN'T GET TO THERELIGIONOFPEACE.COM. I GET THE "INTERNET EXPLORER CANNOT DISPLAY THIS WEB PAGE."

IN LIGHT OF JW RECENT CENSORSHIP ISSUES, ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS?

I can, however, get the Islamic religionofpeace site just below it.

Is censorship going on here?

Posted by: darcy at August 1, 2007 2:11 PM

darcy,

Works for me.

Notce we just crossed another "grim milestone" - over 9,000 fatal jihad attacks since 9/11. But unlike other round numbers, the mainstream media could not be less interested.

Posted by: Beagle at August 1, 2007 2:24 PM

calatrava, there are websites that go over this, but some things that I remember are:

Sharia law counters anything and everything concerning human rights. Sharia laws include
- stoning, or hanging, women when they are raped and do not have 4 witnesses.
- stoning, or killing of the women if she commits adultry - the man gets a whipping.
- digits on the hand; the full hand; parts of the arms, legs; are amputated for certain misdeeds such as theft.
- tongues are taken out if people speak out against islam, the government, etc. (I suppose the democrats would love that one)
- clitoral circumcision
- banning of alcohol
- women will be dressed in either scarves or tents - depending on what the men want and it depends on what man and how fundamental he is as to what she will wear.
- women have 1/2 rights of a man in courts of law
- men can divorce the wife, women cannot divorce the man.
- the men can have up to 4 wives and he can divorce them as he sees fit - then marry again to bring the total number of wives up to 4.
- 'honor killings' of the females who are owned by the males in the family
- depending on how fundamental things are - no music, no art, no singing. Some allow these things and some do not.
- anyone who is not a muslim (dhimmi) must abide by sharia law, but they have less rights than a muslim woman and are basically living on the good graces of the muslims.
- dhimmi will pay the jizya tax, and that might even apply after death.
- dhimmi will not build, or repair, their places of worship and they will not ring church bells, etc. They will not show Bibles, or Torahs, in public. They will dress different so as to distinguish themselves as dhimmi. They will work the jobs the muslims do not want to work.
- the list goes on...
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Posted by: R_not at August 1, 2007 2:24 PM

Smiles and waves? No "wa aleikum as-salaamu"? Did they perhaps feel it improper, since it is forbidden in Islamic law, to wish peace upon a non-Muslim?

I would like to point out that Naseem uses this salutation to us non-muslims every time she shows up. I think she means well, but she is in violation.

Naseem: YOU elected the man into office.

Nope sorry, I did not elect him. I dont live in his district. Somali muslims in his district elected him. I 'slag him off' because he is a muslim in Congress. This means that he participates in making rules, regulations, and laws that I must then live by and obey. I have a low view of Islam, and its brutal, and deadly, methods of control, and how it go's about punishing any percieved enemy of Allah it gets its hands on, as well as its self percieved supremacy. I dont slag him off as a human, I slag him off as a muslim, because he represents nothing I want to participate in. In fact, just the opposite. He will further the cause of Islamic hegemoney , every time he gets a chance. Since he is under the magnifying glass most of the time, his danger level to America is not high, but niether is it zero. Now you know the rest of the story.

Posted by: duh_swami at August 1, 2007 2:30 PM

Yes, beagle, thank you, I got it now.

I had tried over and over and it wasn't happening, so I though about the recent censorship troubles for JW and thought TheReligionofPeace could be experiencing same.

But, apparently it's not. YAY!

Posted by: darcy at August 1, 2007 2:30 PM

darcy:

Works for me too !

Today's Jihad Count at 9090 & counting.

Posted by: billybob at August 1, 2007 2:30 PM

Smiles and waves? No "wa aleikum as-salaamu"? Did they perhaps feel it improper, since it is forbidden in Islamic law, to wish peace upon a non-Muslim?

I would like to point out that Naseem uses this salutation to us non-muslims every time she shows up. I think she means well, but she is in violation.

Naseem: YOU elected the man into office.

Nope sorry, I did not elect him. I dont live in his district. Somali muslims in his district elected him. I 'slag him off' because he is a muslim in Congress. This means that he participates in making rules, regulations, and laws that I must then live by and obey. I have a low view of Islam, and its brutal, and deadly, methods of control, and how it go's about punishing any percieved enemy of Allah it gets its hands on, as well as its self percieved supremacy. I dont slag him off as a human, I slag him off as a muslim, because he represents nothing I want to participate in. In fact, just the opposite. He will further the cause of Islamic hegemoney , every time he gets a chance. Since he is under the magnifying glass most of the time, his danger level to America is not high, but niether is it zero. Now you know the rest of the story.

Posted by: duh_swami at August 1, 2007 2:38 PM

I don't need Keith Ellison's help in understanding islam...thank you very much..and further more, the fact that they are not allowed to "wish me peace" will not leave me sobbing in my pillow either. I wouldn't mind a wish for peace from a muslim as long as it's an overseas call and it isn't collect.

Posted by: pismopal at August 1, 2007 2:42 PM

To The Other Mert, here is my muslim anecdote: Last summer I was in Paris standing on a street corner. Behind me was a muslim laborer standing on top of a pile of rubble. Long story-short, the rubble collapses and the muslim is pinned against a building. Good Southern boy that I am, I immediately began lifting stones and rocks from the muslim, who was buried almost to his waist. He was in pain and struggling. He was finally able to stand when I said to him in English "Are you ok?" He never looked me in the eye and he turned his back to me and hobbled off. About this time another muslim ran up to him , and looking ME in the eye, said to him in English "My brother are you all right?" I learned a very important lesson here. I am an infidel(and proud of it). Don't know for sure, but it probably is forbidden in islamic law to wish peace upon a non-muslim, as reported by Robert

Posted by: porkbelly at August 1, 2007 3:14 PM

"...because the U.S. and Iraqi military and the Iraqi police are partnering with the tribal leadership and the religious leadership,"

It's a "temporary marriage," if there ever was one.

Posted by: MarisolJW at August 1, 2007 3:25 PM

In what way is the Iraqi Sheikh's version of Islam different to that of Al-Qaeda's and what makes him think that Ellison's version of islam is any different?

Posted by: Hermit at August 1, 2007 4:55 PM

Assalamau Laikum all,

I use this salutation without violation. It can be used to welcome peace upon all muslims/wuslims and ALL potential kaffur who could convert due to knoweledge of Islam.

I regard all here including Mr. Spencer and Mr. Fitzgerald as potential peoples who could convert to Islam...therefore the salutation is valid.

Look you may as well convert...sharia lite (not sharia) is inevitable even in the Amerike.

Many peoples here are at pains saying that they did not vote for Mr. Ellison....fine....but SOON it will be in your state ...your district...where a bunch of FOOLS as you put it will elect Ellison 2 , Ellison 3 ...all the way upto Ellison 50.

Inevitably ...this long road will provide creeping scope of sharia lite ...greater discussion of Dua and inevitably some of you and or your daughters/grandaughters will come to love the greatest and most prefect prophet of them all MUHD PBUH.

Many will even agree that Jesus liked Islam...just like all muslims...there is no hiding from this ....give your friendly local imam a call and start as early as tomorrow....I would even like to see some of you become Imams too.

Posted by: Naseem at August 1, 2007 5:01 PM

"They were very upset and concerned that al-Qaeda is misrepresenting Islam," Ellison told reporters on a conference call Monday from Germany, on his way back to the U.S."-Ellison

But al-Qaeda does represent and truly speaks for Islam. The Qu'ran not only represents "hate speech", it represents incitement to violence-which is not speech protected by the first amendment.

The Qu'ran is allegedly direct dictation from God to Muhammad. (It's not like the Gospel according to St. John, or an "inspired" Old Testament Bible story.)

The Qu'ran is set-up longest verses to shortest verses, but what counts is chronological order. Thus in any case where a later (chronological) verse is contradicted by an earlier one (wine is good, alcohol is banned e.g.) the later chronological verse is the one that counts.

The "peaceful verses" in the Qu'ran have been abrogated by the last major order to impose Sharia law on unbelievers and to do violence to unbelievers if they do not submit. If the Unbeliever does not submit (or at least accept a Dhimmis status) the Qu'ran orders Muslims to kill the unbeliever.

The Qu'ran represents "hate speech" and incitement to violence. Al-Qaeda is the voice of true Islam.

It is what it is...let's stop the BS with the "peaceful verses" crap and the Islamophobia Hustle...folks know the truth now...

Posted by: Frank at August 1, 2007 5:32 PM

Many will even agree that Jesus liked Islam...

BLASPHEMY!
BLASPHEMY!

What a complete joker you are, Naseem. Go to Hell and take your 72 Virgins with you!!!!!!

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at August 1, 2007 5:35 PM

LOL...may as well ask the elephant to guard the peanuts...LOL

Posted by: jcom972 at August 1, 2007 6:01 PM

Naseem, what have you been smoking? The U.S. will never submit to sharia (light or otherwise). We may have a civil war to prevent it, but it will never be the "law of the land".

People are finally waking up to Ellison, CAIR, the muslim students assoc. etc. and will never ever submit.

Posted by: walterc at August 1, 2007 6:27 PM

At last... thank you, Naseem, for showing your true face and the true agenda of Islam.

BTW: You're perfectly free to promote your religion, but don't you dare lecture me on Christianity. You know absolutely nothing about Jesus, the Christ and Savior; so, confine yourself to spewing nonsense about your own religion.

Posted by: Kalifornia Kafir at August 1, 2007 6:28 PM

Naseem Said: I use this salutation without violation. It can be used to welcome peace upon all muslims/wuslims and ALL potential kaffur who could convert due to knoweledge of Islam.

Naseem: Your concern for the rest of us is very Christian of you. I would invite you to read the New Testament and become an apotstate of the evil force controlling your life.

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16

Doesn't that sound better than the whole 72 virgins thing?

There's hope for you yet my friend.

Posted by: walterc at August 1, 2007 6:42 PM

Yeah Ellison, nice guy.
Compared our President to Adoph Hitler and more than inferred that 9-11 was a set up by the govt to open the door to attack the Muslim world. Then he tries to pass it off as a "rookie mistake" to Wolf Blitzer on CNN.

It really is too bad we have regressed into such a one world, yellow bellied, matrichial society. Not so long ago, they would have tarred and feathered him and run him out of town on a rail.

Posted by: GrimReaperxxx at August 1, 2007 7:11 PM

Simple:

Make Ellison the president of Iraq, give him a Humvee and a gun and pull the plug.

Iraq has a president and we won the war.

Mission accomplished.

Posted by: sheik yer'mami

Shiek thats sooooooo damn good i can't think of anything to add.....LOL!!!!1

Also someone was fretting over thereligionofpeace site,possibly being whammied.

it's not that i know of. I had trouble with my first attempt but all others have been fine.

could be all the road construction as the islamic one way streets are being built!!

Posted by: Dar al-harb at August 1, 2007 7:29 PM

I believe in and have as much faith in Ellison as i do muhammad and allah.

And in case you are new here thats: Zip,zero,zilch,nada,none,never will have

In fact i trust him about as far as i can throw Hugh.

Posted by: Dar al-harb at August 1, 2007 7:49 PM

C'mon Naseem, you give your religion so much credit. They is not a single successful country under Sharia law right now... name 1 country... just 1. Your banter sounds so evil, Islam is such a cult.

Posted by: Isamisevil at August 1, 2007 8:58 PM

Naseem -

sharia is evil.

Mohammed was a liar, and a very bad man. Al Qaeda and every other Jihad plotter on earth are busy imitating Mohammed as closely as they can.

Keith Ellison is a blind fool.

You don't know anything about Jesus - please do as waiterc has suggested, get a copy of the New Testament and read the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, and the Book of Acts. That is where we Christians get our information about Jesus. If you don't know what the Gospels say, you do not know what Christians believe.

By the way: Jesus (Yeshua of Nazareth) was not a Muslim. He celebrated Passover, and attended Synagogue on the Sabbath day, and used exactly the same Hebrew scripture which Jews use nowadays. That makes him a Jew.

Since Jesus was a devout Jew, he would have rejected Islam.

But Islam DID NOT EXIST at the time of Jesus (first century AD - during the reigns of the pagan Roman Emperors Augustus and Tiberius); Islam was only invented about SIX HUNDRED YEARS LATER.

Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at August 2, 2007 12:42 AM

Thank you dumbledoresarmy for your lecture on Jesus. I do not get why even so many Christians do not understand they worship a Jew, yet are against the Jews. Crazy!! I know that there is neither Jew nor Greek, etc, yet He choose to come to earth as a Jew.

Some "Christians" just amaze me at their lack of knowledge.

Naseem could actually come to Jesus by the reading of the Koran. Many have. That is the problem: so many Muslims have not read their own holy book. Sad.

Posted by: lightinshadows at August 2, 2007 1:36 AM

Assalamau Laikum dumbledoresarmy,

You say to me "Islam DID NOT EXIST at the time of Jesus (first century AD - during the reigns of the pagan Roman Emperors Augustus and Tiberius); Islam was only invented about SIX HUNDRED YEARS LATER".

Actually this is not true...Islam started when man was created ....with Amma Heva and Hazrat Adam.

Islam's prophets include Ibrahim (pbuh), Moses,(pbuh) Jesus (PBUh) and Muhd (PBUH).

There have also been more minor prophets such as Nu (who combated the floods so well).

It is only that MUHD PBUH was the last and greatest of Islam's prophets ...who gave muslims identity and discipline.

Muhd PBUH did not discrimiate against Jews as much as you think....his last wife was a jewess.

I think that they had probably made sweet love, and then Muhd PBUH had asked for something to eat ...and she made dinner for him which she poisioned....now THAT is real taqquia.

It was this dastardly act that made MUHD PBUH say that he wanted rid of all except Islam in the Middle East....I mean if you can't trust your wife....

I was a little disappointed with this....as MUHD PBUH being a prophet could have been magnanamous in death and forgive her....but needs must as they say....SHE is the real cause of the tension between muslims & Jews....SO NOW YOU KNOW THE TRUTH...has it set you free?

Posted by: Naseem at August 2, 2007 3:44 AM

"They were very upset and concerned that al-Qaeda is misrepresenting Islam," Ellison told reporters on a conference call Monday from Germany, on his way back to the U.S. "And they were talking to me about what I can possibly do to work with them to give a clearer, more accurate picture of what Islam is all about."

So these learned sheikhs, who've had Islam flowing in their veins for Allah-knows-how-long, call on an American politician to give the al-Qaeda misrepresenters a "clearer, more accurate picture of what Islam is all about", since they can't seem to convert al-Qaeda themselves?

Nice system, this Islam is.

Posted by: yadayada at August 2, 2007 3:52 AM

Naseem:

The line was Ishmael born from Egyptian woman. His brother, Isaac is who you all trying to "push into the sea". Now...were they Muslims, or were they Egyptian?

The people who became known as Islam today... has been at war with Jews from the time of Ishmael and Isaac. Don't be so fretful that God chose Isaac for His own. If Islam were not a bunch of coo coo's ( oh I am so bad) and bloody....just maybe God would have blessed them. I have never seen such a wicked religion, except for Hitler (kin to Islam in idea's)
Naseem...if you want to live according to God's words/will..take some time and pick up a Holy Bible. You will truely be amazed if not transformed.
God said :"Have no other gods before Me." Means allah is not to take His place.
Ellison is a Muslim...means he will do whatever he can for cause of Islam and America is on back burner.

Posted by: Cher at August 2, 2007 4:12 AM

Naseem wrote:
"and then Muhd PBUH had asked for something to eat ...and she made dinner for him which she poisioned."

Thanks be to the true God for that, not the fictional Allah of Muhammad's mind.

Jesus supposedly layed down his life willingly for all people in self-sacrifice, whereas Muhammad was killed off by one of his slave-wives, assumedly for not treating her so well.

How fitting, and glorious. The world became a better place the day they put 'ol Mo in the ground.

Posted by: awake at August 2, 2007 8:28 AM

Naseem...

Mohammad was ill much of his life. He had severe headaches, epilepsy, and later a weakened condition.
He may have had any number of conditions leading to his rather early death. If he was alive in modern times, possibly none of his ailments would have killed him. He went with no treatment, and no pain killers. According to hadith, Aiesha was with him when he died. If I follow the chain of various reports about Mohammads physical, and mental condition, during his life, I come to the conclusion that it would be unnecessary to poison him, as he was a gonner anyway. Of course, it's not impossible that he was poisoned, just unlikely.
Another note. Niether Allah nor Gabriel showed up to see him off. No golden chariot...nothing... and after all he had done for them. After several days of waiting for a miracle from Allah, his followers buried him. One rumor has it that they buried him under his bed...a victim of poisoning? Maybe, but probably not...

Posted by: duh_swami at August 2, 2007 2:56 PM

"YOU elected the man into office"

No way!!! a bunch of Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan elected him. Period.

Posted by: rational at August 2, 2007 5:39 PM