Well I can tell ya why they didn't react to Tancredo...of course it won't be PC:
They expect such a comment from their mortal enemy-
They DON'T expect it from an collaborator.
Simple as that.

Posted by: jcom972 at August 3, 2007 9:00 PM

I believe Obama's comment is the only thing that we can agree on.

And the State Departments request that the canidates steer away from sensitive issues is a joke. Why, because we may upset the religion of peace and they would start killing people? Or people may acutally realize that the money going to other countries is not buying anything?

Posted by: alaskan1000 at August 3, 2007 9:05 PM

But, guys, Obama will talk to the corpse of Osama with no strings attached and promises never to use nuclear weapons...on civilians...err... oh, sorry, burning the US flag is just part of your usual afternoon tea break. Sorry. Carry on. I was reading too much into it. Salam.

Posted by: Wimbledon Womble at August 3, 2007 9:27 PM

I know that wholesale removal of the State Dept. career officers is just "not done" but something needs drastic needs to happen over there...and the CIA as well (remember all the state secrets that have been leaked in the last year in the NY Times).

What do they expect the '08 presidential, and congressional, candidates NOT to talk about the biggest issue of the campaign???

What kind of fools are working there?

Posted by: eve_anne_gelical at August 3, 2007 9:28 PM

I'm a little disappointed...where's our pal Islamic Rage Boy? This photo-op seems tailor-made for him.

Posted by: Jeffersonian at August 3, 2007 9:40 PM

Is that guy on the left wearing a Hillary button?

Posted by: KAOSKTRL at August 3, 2007 9:40 PM

On a serious note, muslim killed Robert Kennedy when he heard Robert Kennedy's offering to defend Israel during one of his campaign speechs.. l think it was on a tv interview?. l think MrObama should be careful and keep a eye out for a pious muslim might try to do the same.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at August 3, 2007 9:47 PM

Sheesh, these guys are tame compared to RageBoy...

Posted by: atheling at August 3, 2007 9:51 PM

Yet another preemptive strike at the First Amendment, from another source, to another target?

This stuff is really starting to scare me. Well, I'm sure it will scare me when the shock wears off, anyway.

Don't address sensitive issues?? By the very nature of their being issues at all, issues are sensitive! Any issue is sensitive to someone!

I'm not ready to make nicey-nice with enraged Mohammedans at home, or abroad. I'm not a supporter of Obama, by any means, but he said IF an attack seems to be in the offing this would be his warning to potential jihadis. It's just sabre-rattling, anyway, so what the hell?

As for destroying holy sites, we just won't even go there, or we'll be at it right up until election day, as the tally rises. How many synagogues equal one mosque? How many destroyed statues equal one big black meteorite? (Okay, so I "went there"--couldn't help myself! LOL)

Lay off the sensitive issues in the next Presidential campaign? Only in America!

Posted by: Abscedere at August 3, 2007 10:11 PM

Oh my! Another flag burning. Yawn...

Posted by: Abscedere at August 3, 2007 10:13 PM

Somewhere in a strange parallel universe where everything is opposite, the Council on American-Pakistani Relations prevailed on police to arrest those guys for creating a hostile environment.

Posted by: MarisolJW at August 3, 2007 10:18 PM

Lord, am I embarrassed! I gave Obama Tancredo's words!

See how addled I am by this moratorium on the discussion of sensitive issues? LOL

Posted by: Abscedere at August 3, 2007 10:23 PM

An American dialog:

Worker: Boss, I am going out for a smoke. I filed all the papers you gave me, and I will be back in 5 minutes.

Boss: Great work, Joe, but I wish you'd quit smoking. It's bad for your health. I'll have another stack of papers in a few.

A Pakistani dialog:

Worker: Boss, I copied all those Lethal Weapon 5 videos. I am just going out to burn a flag, and I will be back in 5 minutes.

Boss: Great work, Yusuf, but I wish you'd quit burning flags. It's great that you feel so strongly about defending Allah (pubh), but we make our bread by selling pirated copies of Hollywood videos (and you know that we don't make us much on those Holy videos nowadays). I'll have another stack of them for you in a few.

Posted by: Wimbledon Womble at August 3, 2007 10:27 PM

I agree with Obama on two things...

(1) Invasion of Western Pakistan

(2) Coal conversion to oil as a means to make us energy independent

Alas he is off his rocker on several other issues like the nature of the enemy but so is Bush. My feeling is the invading Pakistan part is just a political stunt to deflect the preception he is weak and even if he did invade I have a bad feeling he would do the "Hearts and Minds" bit then it will be no different then the Iraqi mess we are in now. I want a Sherman style march to the sea to weaken the enemy and Obama no doubt wants Iraq II.

However the one real idea he has been for that I really agree with is coal liquefaction. It goes to the heart of the problem which is oil money being used to wage jihad aginst us. If we stopped using oil from the middle east and stopped protecting the oil lanes around the world we would be in a position of power by forcing other nations to either:

(1) Spend billions to to build navies to defend the oil lanes (good luck on that)

or

(2) Find their own energy in house or from a neighbor like Russia

or

(3) Buy coal converted oil from us (we have 25% plus of the world coal supply).

Obama for all his faults is at least smart enough to realize that Illinois and many other coal states (WV, Penn., Montana etc) could become "energy kings".

Also keep jobs in America...now that is a winning political strategy maybe not for Obama but for somebody who has the guts to break the Arabic-Big Oil Cartel.

Go WVU!!!!

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at August 3, 2007 10:29 PM

I'm with Tancredo:

State Dept. to Tancredo and others: Stop the threats
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/08/state-dept-to-t.html

F Saudi!

Posted by: jrdroll at August 3, 2007 10:34 PM

comet,
what most don't know is that's the biggest key to this strategy...if we can hold off the terrorists long enough over there (there IS an infrastructure being built that the saudi-alqaeda-islamofascist-marxist-chinese cabal will do anything to stop, but can't), in a few years, we will be able to tell the entire opec mafia:
"go f*ck yourself!".
If we get it done in time before they're all prepared for "the big show" with their own military buildups, they're screwed-we'll have 10 times the oil supply they could ever dream...and they know it.
THAT's the real "big story"...
google "green river basin" and you'll get the shocking answers there (the oil reserves from the shale rock/oil sands of our own are more than ALL of opec combined, NOT including the coal!).

May as well drain them first...then see who comes crying home to mama...LOL
;-)

Posted by: jcom972 at August 3, 2007 10:45 PM

State Dept. to Obama and others: Stop the threats
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/08/state-dept-to-t.html

Posted by: jrdroll at August 3, 2007 10:47 PM

The lunacy of the Left most manifests itself in their inability understand that Americans are not their only audience. This is surprising considering their history.

I'm sure I'm not the only one here who remembers: "The whole world is watching! The whole world is watching!"

Posted by: USBeast at August 3, 2007 10:49 PM

Damn, Beast...we must be gettin' old! lol

Posted by: jcom972 at August 3, 2007 10:53 PM

Please insert the word "to" between the words "inability" and "understand".

It has been a long day.

Posted by: USBeast at August 3, 2007 10:53 PM

First: Deputy spokesman Tom Casey, should understand that the Candidates in the elections in western democracies represent the will of the people. As such the debates are open and no topic is off limits. (Though certain stances might end a politician’s career.) Eventual the electorate will make a choice and the politician will set policies (something foggy bottom seems to forget to often.)

Posted by: senor doeboy at August 3, 2007 10:57 PM

On a serious note, muslim killed Robert Kennedy when he heard Robert Kennedy's offering to defend Israel during one of his campaign speechs

To be fair, Zena, Sirhan Sirhan is a Palestinian Christian.

Posted by: Jeffersonian at August 3, 2007 11:04 PM

jcom972,

We're all the same age, Dude. We're younger than dead and dead is as old as anyone ever gets.

Posted by: USBeast at August 3, 2007 11:07 PM

Well hell...and all this time I thought I was giving dirt a run for its money...LOL

Posted by: jcom972 at August 3, 2007 11:12 PM

jcom972,

I do hope (with all due respect and best wishes) that you won't be offended if I put my money on dirt...for either of us.

Posted by: USBeast at August 3, 2007 11:21 PM

jcom972

Just for laughs I remember seeing somewhere that if you removed oil income from the equation the gross exports in dollars from the all arab countries combined would be less then Finland (I think it was Finland...It might have been Norway). It several years ago but I don't doubt it true...

I wish I could find that article so I could quote from it.

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at August 3, 2007 11:45 PM

Not that it would matter much to him, at this point, but--Do you think Dubbya has ever taken a look over his shoulder? If he had, he might have been clued in to the hearts and minds he has lost in the US.

Posted by: Abscedere at August 3, 2007 11:50 PM

I feel a little relieved after he said those remarks. I do not think he is scary as we are thought to believe. I agree with Obama 110%. He may be chastised for being an apostate.

Posted by: The Resistance at August 4, 2007 12:03 AM

“In 1979, rumors that Israel was going to bomb Mecca and Medina led to the storming of the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad and the publication of cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed in European publications prompted violent protests two years ago.’

In Mr. Casey’s world cartoons are not allowed. In his world your allies storm your embassy over rumors that do not even involve you. In his world we elect a President and then we get to see what he stands for sorta like buying a box of crackerjacks. Rep Tancredo, the elected American of the two is free to speak as he sees fit. The next president should fire every person with any position of authority in not only that dept but most of the others as well. These people are operating in a 9-10 shell the candidates should seize on this issue, kick them out and listen to the cheers from the people. Say it is in the interest of American national security.

I’m no lawyer but it sure smells like some laws were broken here, election tampering/intimidation? Forget about the elected rep exercising his constitutional right and at the same time representing the interests of his constituency. The tyranny of the unelected DC official, Stalin would be quite proud. He should get back to ignoring what is going on all around him in DC and the world. They simply don’t get it, they don’t have the slightest clue what many citizens are thinking and what they are demanding.

Posted by: tgusa at August 4, 2007 12:03 AM

Obama is a fool, especially related to foreign policy issues. Leave Iraq to invade Pakistan? De-stabalize Pakistan and give nukes to the Islamists?

There is only one candidate left standing from the Democratic Party, but a formidable one at that. One who has a very good chance of sitting in Bush's seat come January 2009. This could be a reality unless Bush gets us the hell out of Iraq before the election in 2008.

For those who are heartened by the "recent success" in Iraq as a result from the troop surge...get real. There will never be a victory or a democracy there, not in terms we westerners understand. Never. Not unless we are prepared to destroy all Islamist males in the region and that ain't gonna happen. Even then, it is certainly not a lock, with the breeders remaining.

I recall a short while ago when the Taleban was "routed" from Afghanistan. Well, they seem to be back in full vigor. Iraq is no different. To the Islamist, when the going gets tough, they simply run away, only to return, when the eye of the US is drawn elsewhere. The ranks of the jihadists are easily replenished. That fact is apparent when one watches Nahoul, the ever busy bee, on TV in Palestine.

Islam and democracy doesn't mix. Never has, never will. Imagine a US infantry presence in Iraq, Sudan, and if that freshman lunatic senator Obama has his way, Pakistan, simultaneously. Doable only through the re-institution of the draft or cloning.

My God, will this madness ever end???

Choose your candidates ever so wisely in 2008. Your future and quite possibly your life might depend on it.

Posted by: awake at August 4, 2007 12:03 AM

Abscedere,

I am perfectly willing to admit that Mr. Bush is not the best president we've ever had. (A good argument could be made that no president this side of Washington has been the best president we've ever had.)

That said, I shudder to think of what kind of ungodly mess we'd be in if Al Gore were...no, sorry, I can't contemplate it. It's too close to bedtime.

Posted by: USBeast at August 4, 2007 12:10 AM

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/08/04/nuke-mecca-medina-tancredo-blowback/

'Moderate' Malaysia beats Abu Ghraib:

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/08/03/moderate-malaysia-beats-abu-ghraib/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at August 4, 2007 12:15 AM

Gad, America has a government made of chicken livers, and a few gizzards. Stay away from sensitive issues? Yeah like religion and politics, never discuss those...Homer Simpson and Marge could do better...

Posted by: duh_swami at August 4, 2007 12:29 AM

"State Department Asks White House Candidates to Steer Clear of Sensitive Diplomatic Issues"

Why?

For fear of making His Excellency President Bush look like an idiot (jokes here are too easy - don't let's go there).

For fear that one of the candidates might say something sensible that the current administration hasn't thought of?

For fear that one of the candidates might be a decent human being and prove it by talking sensibly, for once, about a 'sensitive issue'?

Or, perhaps, simply not to embarrass the Arab money men who lie quietly behind, and compromise, so many of of our Western democratic processess.

This is just the usual appeal by the deeply enmired not to rock the boat - the boat they are afloat in on the deep and stormy seas of money and corruption.

The fact that the State Department issued this appeal should be a clarion call to all in the USA who believe in freedom to destroy that department and to rebuild it free of the taint of the corruption of the mind and wallet that this statement so obviously indicates.

Let's see that headline again -
"State Department Asks White House Candidates to Steer Clear of Sensitive Diplomatic Issues".

In other words, even in an election - the most sacrosanct moment in the life of a democratic society - there are some things that candidates must not mention.

Huh?

Why?

What, exactly, does the State Department understand the words 'freedom', 'democracy' and 'free speech' to mean?

Obviously, not what the rest of us take them to mean. Guns blazin', it should be high noon for the placeholders at the State Department.

And you have the gall, the brass neck, to say that we Europeans are weak!

Posted by: OliverPCamford at August 4, 2007 12:44 AM

I'm not looking for candidates to make stupid statements like Obamas. The quickest way to get a Taliban like government in Pakistan is to attack that country. Killing a couple hundred Taliban isn't worth the reprecussions. Besides, Obama is just grandstanding anyway. He's just trying to convince voters that he has the leadership qualities to be Presidrnt of the United States.

I for one am not impressed.

If Obama, or any other candidate, wants to impress me, they'll put Bin Laden on the back burner, and talk about the Muslim threat within our own borders. And they can start with a public statement that Islam and its teachings are the real threat to civilized nations, and that Bin Laden is only an Ambassador of Islam to the rest of the world.
Next, they'll commit to banning all Muslim immigration to this country, and promise to deport any Imam preaching hate or disloyality to the United States and its constitution, and/or allows the distribution of Jihadists literature on Mosque property.

Obama's statement about bombing Pakistan isn't leadership, it's grandstanding and stupidity.

Posted by: rational at August 4, 2007 12:50 AM

Or, if you want it in simple words try this:

'State Department alert, Government for sale.'

Sorry, Mr. Spencer, I couldn't resist it!

Perhaps I should have.

Posted by: OliverPCamford at August 4, 2007 1:07 AM

"Obama's statement about bombing Pakistan isn't leadership, it's grandstanding and stupidity."

Exactly. And that's why the State Dept. said that. It highlights how stupid and naive Obama is.

Posted by: atheling at August 4, 2007 1:09 AM

Naseem, do they have farging American flag stores over there? They must do a brisk business.

Posted by: interestinconundrum at August 4, 2007 1:16 AM

Somebody should tell the State Department that this is a democratic representative republic, and that once a new President is elected, it's up to him to determine what the foreign policy is - not some mfs in the State Department! Same goes for Bush - once he's out of office, it's not the job of the next president to continue his policies if he disagrees with it - be it Pakistan, Iraq, KSA or Syria.

Obama's statement is one of the few of his that I agree with - if he also had contingency plans for Iran and Saudi Arabia, he'd be worth supporting. Tancredo's statement this time was more of a suggested threat rather than an actual follow-up action, and one I agree with. While I agree with the moderators of this forum that we posters shouldn't make genocidal posts, it's a mistake on the part of those in power or those running for office to rule out any option, no matter what - it has the effect of emboldening the enemies who know that certain things like nuking Waziristan will never happen.

Posted by: Infidel Pride at August 4, 2007 2:04 AM

This is precisely why you hear the phrase,"Children should be seen and not heard." In the areas of politics at home and foreign affairs, (uh...I think that covers it all), this man has shown himself to be a child. We can't afford to hire someone who needs on the job training at this time.
If you could talk the enemy to death...he'd be the man.

Posted by: Alaskan at August 4, 2007 3:28 AM

I wonder if candidate Obama is aware that Pakistan has nuclear weapons? I wonder if he is aware that we would have to mass troops near Waziristan/NWFP to clear out those Pashtun areas the way he suggests we do? I wonder if he knows that there is no way in heaven that we could mass forces without the Pakis detecting those forces and deducting why they were massing in the first place?
I wonder if candidate Obama knows that our acess to land locked Afghanistan is limited and that our two logistical hubs, Bagram & Kandahar are in easy striking range of Paki nuclear missiles? I wonder if he knows we recieve supplies from Pakistan that are delivered by Paki "jingle truck" drivers? I wonder if candidate Obama has ever spoken to any Captains and Sergeants who have worked as embeded trainers with Afghan National Army or Police forces? I wonder if candidate Obama has ever read about the history of Afghanistan, esp. concerning occupying it?

Posted by: Armalite at August 4, 2007 3:44 AM

Barak (short for Mubarak) "Hussein" Obama has made a good call but has a long way to go before he proves himself to be on the right side of America. On the other hand, Tom Tancedo has a proven track-record on illegal immigration and Islamic terror, if you see the difference. http://www.teamtancredo.com/

Posted by: Alert at August 4, 2007 5:17 AM

Tancedo for President!!!

Romney also shot himself in the foot. Hopefully this moves Tancedo up in the polls.

Posted by: Elric66 at August 4, 2007 5:33 AM

Notice we're not urging Mushmallow to hold elections any time soon to democratize Pakistan. The Taliban would win.
He's like a driver in a car teetering half-way over a cliff. Don't breathe anyone, or he might go over!
Obama needs to now address the strategic value of the oil. I'm disappointed he wants to concentrate troops in Afghanistan.
Gulliani will get the Rep nod I think.

Posted by: jewdog at August 4, 2007 6:26 AM

Jeffersonian thank you for your correction, l know of so many Arabs wheter they be Christian or muslim, they have ingrained hatred for Jews.
l wonder now that now when most "Christian Arabs being persecuted and killed by the "muslim arab" do they still blame the Jews? my point earlier is that statements by politicians such as Obama they need to be careful from the wacko of the ME
l dont remember much of Robert Kennedy's killing too young at the time, but his words on the ME caused some nutbar from the ME to go postal.

Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess at August 4, 2007 6:50 AM

Vote Gulliani and vote for status quo. No changes from the closet arabist presently enjoying comforts at the White House.

Tancedo? What has he said beyond amnesty/immigration?

When it comes to islam, all policians are the same. Weak, spineless pee-in-the-panters.

What "rational" has said above is spot on, and I reiterate because it is so good:

"If Obama, or any other candidate, wants to impress me, they'll put Bin Laden on the back burner, and talk about the Muslim threat within our own borders. And they can start with a public statement that Islam and its teachings are the real threat to civilized nations, and that Bin Laden is only an Ambassador of Islam to the rest of the world.

Next, they'll commit to banning all Muslim immigration to this country, and promise to deport any Imam preaching hate or disloyality to the United States and its constitution, and/or allows the distribution of Jihadists literature on Mosque property".

Well said rational. But you know as well as I do that there is no such candidate.

So, do not vote for any cadidate who has thorwn morsels of non-pc crumbs. Do not waste your vote on dhimmis.

Abstain. Stay at home with your friends and family. Take your kids to cinema. Get the hell out for a day or two - go abroad. Do anything, but do not vote at the next election.

Nobody is worthy of your vote.

Posted by: Hermit at August 4, 2007 7:16 AM

Unless I miss my guess...blood will flow in Pakistan. Ole mushy ain' givin' up without one hell of a bloodletting. He has the troops and the will to use them. If I'm not mistaken, it was made known to him that if he didn't step up, we were going to melt the area where we thought it would do the most good. Suddenly, he was on our side and spiked the Taliban to the turf.
Ole Mao had one thing right...political power comes from the barrel of a gun.

Posted by: Alaskan at August 4, 2007 7:58 AM

Unless I miss my guess...blood will flow in Pakistan. Ole mushy ain' givin' up without one hell of a bloodletting. He has the troops and the will to use them. If I'm not mistaken, it was made known to him that if he didn't step up, we were going to melt the area in Pakistan where we thought it would do the most good. Suddenly, he was on our side and spiked the Taliban to the turf.
Ole Mao had one thing right...political power comes from the barrel of a gun.

Posted by: Alaskan at August 4, 2007 8:00 AM

Sorry about the double post....

Posted by: Alaskan at August 4, 2007 8:02 AM

For all above who think invading WESTERN Pakistan is bad idea let me go over a few points..

(1) The Taliban and Al-Qaeda will continue to use Western Pakistan to attack us in Afganistan. They will use that area as refuge to reform and prepare to retake Afganistan if we should ever leave.

(2) The Pakistanini Government is responsible for the Taliban existance in the first place. They are the ones who funded it and supported it all those years. Everytime we have asked Pakistan to do something about Western Pakistan they only do half measures. They will never go after any of the leaders of the Taliban.

(3) They have nukes yes however they lack the ability to use them in a effective manner. We will limit our invasion to Western Pakistan. If they should be foolish enough to use them then kiss Pakistan good bye.

As a plan it is a good idea if done right. It is not a rebuilding operation or winning hearts and minds. It would be scorched earth/hit and run invasion. Go in...kill as many enemy fighters as we can and get out. Repeat about every 10-15 years or so.

With that said the Obama plan however is like the Bush plan in Iraq. Feed them and give them money to win hearts and minds. Nation Building! Jeeeeze.

The idea itself is not bad just the guy proposing it lacks the will to do it right. Although I do find it ironic that Obama is getting closer to the truth then Bush is. Neither will ever arrive at the truth but hey what the hell give credit where credit is due.

Now what Tancredo said is ten years ahead of its time. Wow!

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at August 4, 2007 10:25 AM

I think Tancredo's statement shows a certain lack of sophistication by him that now makes me uneasy about his candidacy.

I fully understand the impact that such destruction upon Mecca and Medina would have upon the dar al Islam. But what does this statement do to address the problem of someone like Ahdmedinejad, who would attack the US with nuclear weapons tomorrow if he had them? What will attacking muslims in Mecca do to stop that or any other set of crazed jihaist bent on another speectacular attack like 9/11? If Tancredo understands jihad then he would understand things like SJS (sudden jihad syndrome) and realize that not every jihadist attack is state sponsored.

If the CIA discovered Iran had nuclear capability tommorow and Ahdmedinejad announced an intent to attack the U.S., we would certainly be within our rights to strike pre-emptively. But even this would would be an act likely to cause Islamic governments to unite against us and cause great upheaval and could start wars on several fronts. It will be difficult for the US to maintain peaceful relations with so many Islamic governments. That will be diffiult to manage on its own. But an indiscriminate attack on Mecca?

I just don't get Tancredo. People are telling me he understands jihadist idealogy better than anyone. So I wait to hear something about him in the news. He doesn't get much coverage. I look for something to show me he has a fresh approach...and we get this?

And Fred Thompson hires a middle east lobbyist for campaign manager.

We are doomed. If we can only get Newt to read Hirsi Ali, Ibn Warraq and Robert Spencer and Hugh Fitzgerald before October we can be saved from his madness.

Posted by: Leave Iraq Now at August 4, 2007 10:35 AM

In the past we had some real men as POTUS.

A Historical American Perspective On Islam's True Nature:

"In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar (i.e. Muhammed), the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive part of the earth.

Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion.

He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind.

THE ESSENSE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE.

Between these two religions (Islam and Christianity), thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is flagrant...

While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men."

- John Quincy Adams, former President of the United States -

Posted by: interestinconundrum at August 4, 2007 10:35 AM

USBeast,

You're right about Gore, no doubt in my mind at all.

I know the man has the right to demand a re-count of votes, when he has such a large personal investment in an election. Still, I thought it showed a lack of class. After he did that, it really sucked to be a Floridian! LOL

Ugh! Gore, indeed! After 9/11, he would have folded like origami. That, or come up with some delusional response. (Remember, he invented the Internet.)

I would never consider Gore as a better alternative to Bush, but when Bush's time is up, he is not going to be remembered with affection by Americans. I guess that's what happens when a man aspires to power, rather than to greatness.

Posted by: Abscedere at August 4, 2007 10:40 AM

"Is that guy on the left wearing a Hillary button?"
Posted by: KAOSKTRL

"Made me look." LOL

Posted by: Josephine at August 4, 2007 10:53 AM

"Somewhere in a strange parallel universe where everything is opposite, the Council on American-Pakistani Relations prevailed on police to arrest those guys for creating a hostile environment."
Posted by: MarisolJW

Spock, is that you?

Posted by: Josephine at August 4, 2007 10:56 AM

"And Fred Thompson hires a middle east lobbyist for campaign manager."
Posted by: Leave Iraq Now

-- I was disappointed to learn that. I had high hopes for Fred.

..."John Quincy Adams, former President of the United States"
Posted by: interestinconundrum

-- Thanks so much. That was interesting.

Posted by: Josephine at August 4, 2007 11:10 AM

Obama's Paki remarks have dashed the pipe dreams of lots of Demos...that was the final joining of Hillary with Obama as Prez and V.Prez. Words mean things...yes they do.

Posted by: pismopal at August 4, 2007 12:09 PM

Obama's Paki remarks have dashed the pipe dreams of lots of Demos...that was the final joining of Hillary with Obama as Prez and V.Prez. Words mean things...yes they do.

Posted by: pismopal at August 4, 2007 12:21 PM

Obama's Paki remarks have dashed the pipe dreams of lots of Demos...that was the final joining of Hillary with Obama as Prez and V.Prez. Words mean things...yes they do.

Posted by: pismopal at August 4, 2007 12:21 PM

I dont advocate bombing Mecca, I think the act would be counterproductive. However, I think it may have some benifit if the enemy thinks we may actually do it. Why send them the message that this is out of the question? This is giving the enemy psychological aid and comfort. Keep them nervous about it, stop giving them assurances. They should be sure of nothing.
Of course thats not the PC way of doing things, according to that, we are supposed to throw kisses at the enemy, while they shoot at us.

Hermit above is right,'nobody is worthy of your vote'.

The lessor of two evils, is still evil'...

Posted by: duh_swami at August 4, 2007 12:50 PM

Hermit, I'm in total agreement with you. It's refreshing to read someone who knows that politicians on BOTH sides of the divide are clueless when it comes to Islam. I've yet to make up my mind on who to vote for; in all likelihood, I'll take your advice and stay home with a drink or two ("adult beverages," as Spencer calls them).

Posted by: GetBornAgain at August 4, 2007 3:49 PM

Check out the Hitler salutes on a couple of the guys on the right...

Posted by: Allahfanculo at August 4, 2007 8:14 PM

"In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar (i.e. Muhammed)

When are we goin to see islamigc rage boy protesting Hager the Terrible cartoons?

Posted by: Allahfanculo at August 4, 2007 8:18 PM

Where do they get these flags from? All the flag-r-us shops closed down in my neighbourhood.

Posted by: ewha1 at August 4, 2007 8:27 PM

Boy, it's going to be one helluva fireworks display when Pakistan implodes. India, make sure the Hindus, Christians and Infidels get out okay, deal with the Islamist terrorists once and for all in Kashmir, then just sit back and enjoy.

I'll get the popcorn, whose turn is it for the coke?

How many billions has the US thrown into the Pakistan abyss?

Posted by: ewha1 at August 5, 2007 9:14 AM

With all his faults Tom Tancredo is a passionate patriotic American, it cannot be denied that Tom Tancredo has his heart in the right place. In this maze of smooth-talking, tip-toeing and pandering politicians, what is lacking, white house included is a commitment to Ameirca.

In short, with Tom Tancredo, America cannot go wrong: http://www.teamtancredo.com

Posted by: Alert at August 6, 2007 9:09 PM