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August 9, 2007

Muslim "lawmakers" assault critic of Islam

Still more silencing of critics by force. Sometimes critics are silenced this way, and sometimes by legal threats and legal action. Much more rarely are critics met in free and open debate. "Muslim lawmakers attack Taslima Nasreen," from Reuters (thanks to all who sent this in):

HYDERABAD, India (Reuters) - Muslim protesters assaulted the exiled Bangladeshi author and feminist Taslima Nasreen at a book launch in Hyderabad on Thursday, incensed by her repeated criticism of Islam and religion in general.

Some radical Muslims hate Nasreen for saying Islam and other religions oppress women.

On Thursday, lawmakers and members of the All India Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen party attacked her at the press club in Hyderabad at the launch of a Telugu translation of one of her novels.

An uneasy-looking Nasreen backed into a corner as several middle-aged men threw a leather case, bunches of flowers and other objects at her head and threatened her with a chair, according to a Reuters witness and television pictures.

Some of the mob shouted for her death.

Other men tried to shield her and catch the projectiles. She ended up with a bruised forehead, and described the attack as barbaric before being taken to safety by police.

Posted by Robert at August 9, 2007 3:19 PM
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It's a mad mad mad mad mad muhammadan world!

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 3:30 PM

Does Islam = mafia-like organization, with Allah as capo, never to be criticized unless you want your legs broken or worse?

Notice that those doing the violence are not impoverished street thugs, or some fringe: they are elected "lawmakers," and "members of the All India Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen party" did it.

Actually, the mafia might not be as bad as Islam, since I gather leaving the mafia is sometimes permitted.

Someone ought to do an in-depth comparison between the mafia and Islam, to see how much overlap there is, and what the differences are.

Posted by: traeh [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 3:44 PM

"Some of the mob shouted for her death."


....Muslims are very good at calling for the death of someone....

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 3:53 PM

You need to love such "Peaceful Protests"

The act of throwing flowers in such a manor I find highly offensive.

Time to replace the CHARMIN by the Throne.

Posted by: flowerknife_us [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 3:54 PM

"incensed by her repeated criticism of Islam and religion in general. ..."


....the behavior of the Muslims makes this very easy to do and to validate that Islam is worthless....

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 3:59 PM

Islam is the most sexist major religion when it comes to women. Just look at the child marriage, the sexual exploitation of female workers in Saudi Arabia, and Malaysia is listed as the worst country for human trafficking.

This is the dirty secret of Islam and apologist for Islam try to avoid it or dismiss the sexism as just cultural and not Islamic. A good exploration of Islamic hadith shows rampant sexism that is of a couple orders of magnitude higher than any other major religion.

That feminism has not challenged Islam head on is very telling about feminism real interest in women. There are 500,000 million women under the slavery that is Islam. Why more feminists do not work for the liberation of Muslim women from this sexism is something to ponder.

Did you know that some of the major purchasers of light boxes are Muslim women. Their men keep them locked up in their homes so much (even in desert countries ... ie most) that they get sick from not enough sunlight. No wonder they must punish Muslim women who want to marry Christians ... Christian men make better husbands, just as Buddhist, Janist, Baihi, Zoroastrian husbands.

Islam must enslave their women or many will leave. If this is not so, why have a law against leaving? Yes, yes, Islam is so pure and perfect and divine. Give me a break, it is about access to women and controlling them. That is why Islam forbids women leaving? If Islamic marrage is so wonderful then give women the freedom to leave.

Posted by: James Martel [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 4:01 PM

Gotta love that religion of peace

Posted by: Capitalist Infidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 4:17 PM

While I can understand that women born into islam (Naseem?) may be able to accept the secondary role women are assigned, I am totally amazed that any western woman is willling to convert.

Posted by: MP [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 4:26 PM

Rather than taking her to safety, wouldn't it be refreshing if the police for once, arrested the fanatics, and stood up for free speech. But then again, the lot of women in Indian Hindu society isn't much better than they're Muslim counterparts.
Keep the funeral pyres burning, as the old song goes.

Posted by: Ian [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 4:26 PM

Taslima needs to take some martial arts defense classes .. as well as firearm protection.

Posted by: callmeinfidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 4:30 PM

Islam is the most sexist major religion when it comes to women. Just look at the child marriage, the sexual exploitation of female workers in Saudi Arabia

Not to mention each man being allowed up to 4 wives, while each woman must be exclusively faithful to her 1 husband (or perhaps "1/4 husband" would be more correct).

Why more feminists do not work for the liberation of Muslim women from this sexism is something to ponder.

To offer my $0.02, feminism nowadays is little more than liberalism for women, and liberalism does not permit judging non-Westerners such as muslims by "our" standards, no matter what horrors they perpetrate.

Also notice, for example, that Islam is far more intolerant toward gays than is the largely post-Christian West. The worst thing most homosexuals have to fear in Europe or America is that someone might (gasp!) disagree with their lifestyle or call it sinful, while a homosexual in muslim lands literally risks death. However, the left regards pointing this out not as correctly indicating the intolerance of muslims toward gays, but instead as intolerance toward muslims.

Posted by: Bigfoot [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 4:31 PM

Hey Muhammed, aint you proud of your offspring ?

How about you Irahim ?

Easier to go after women rather than marines aint it ?

Posted by: dgene [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 4:33 PM

If you want to know what life in this country will look like after a couple generations of Muslim immigration, there it is.

Posted by: rational [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 4:41 PM

Ian wrote:

"...lot of women in Indian Hindu society isn't much better than they're Muslim counterparts.
Keep the funeral pyres burning, as the old song goes".

Which century are you living in?
Have you ever been to India, do you know any Indians, more to the point do you know any Indian women?

You only demonstrate your ignorance and narrow minded views by posts like these.

I suggest you try to get out more!


Posted by: Hermit [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 4:41 PM

Thought there was a flood or as they call it a moonsoon going on funny what was it that mulsum said the other day don't send your aid?

Posted by: Catherine [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 4:46 PM

Religon of tollerance allright.

Cowards every one of them..............

Posted by: SoTX [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 4:55 PM

Brusseles:

“Anti-Islam Demo too dangerous…!”

Socialist Mayor Bans Anti-Islam Demo For September 11


http://sheikyermami.com/2007/08/09/brusseles-socialist-mayor-bans-anti-islam-demo-for-september-11/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 5:01 PM

Kaddafi hostage extortion update: "Tragic" genital torture was "not deliberate";

Libya 'tortured' Bulgarian medics ...In an interview with the Arabic news channel on Wednesday, Mr Gaddafi admitted the medics had been tortured into confessing... "Yes, they were tortured by electricity and they were threatened that their family members would be targeted," he said... "But [But BUT!] a lot of what the Palestinian doctor has claimed are merely lies"... "There is negligence, there is a disaster that took place, there is a tragedy, but [But BUT!] it was not deliberate ," he said.
/Islamo-nuance

Posted by: Terp Mole [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 5:04 PM

"Some radical Muslims hate Nasreen for saying Islam and other religions oppress women."


Radical Muslims: How dare you say we oppress women! (Throws chair at female author)

Posted by: JadeDragoness [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 5:04 PM

While I can understand that women born into islam (Naseem?) may be able to accept the secondary role women are assigned, I am totally amazed that any western woman is willling to convert.

Posted by: MP at August 9, 2007 4:26 PM


Anyone that covert to Islam, especially women have serious mental issues to begin with.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 5:16 PM
An uneasy-looking Nasreen backed into a corner as several middle-aged men threw ... bunches of flowers ... at her head ...

Nasty oppressive chauvenists trying to manipulate her with romantic overtures no doubt. I bet some of them stooped to opening the door for her and shouting "Women and children first!" when police came to escort people to safety...

Posted by: Archimedes2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 5:25 PM

traeh, interesting observations about Islam and the Mafia. hmmmm...Where is the Mafia most concentrated (or where did it get its start?) That's in Sicily. Wanna take a guess who occupied Sicily? Ah, yes, you guessed it. It was the Religion of Peace. (See the text: "Jihad in the West: Muslim conquests from the 7th century to 21st Century" by Paul Fregosi -- Fregosi discusses Sicily and Islam). The Mafia picked up (adopted) cruel, inhumane practices -- some say -- from their former Muslim Overlords. Even the term "mafia" has Arabic roots.

Posted by: J.S. [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 5:34 PM

"Let he who is without sin, throw the first stone."

Note: Jesus did not throw a stone.

Posted by: tanstaafl [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 5:36 PM

A mob of furious Muslims assaults a woman for publicly exposing Islam as misogynist . . . and scream for her death. I don't suppose that any of the mobocrats appreciated the irony of the situation . . . you know the scenario: "Say that Islam is violent and we'll kill you!"

Posted by: Parpar [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 6:04 PM

Re: "Some radical Muslims hate Nasreen for saying Islam and other religions oppress women".

It's a patriarchal religion. Muslim men may marry non-Muslim women but Muslim women are forbidden to Marry a non-Muslim man. This implies that the woman belongs to the man's clan-family. It is what it is-it's a sick, oppressive, exploitative, patriarchal "religion"-a rationalization for exploitation, lies ("War is deception" as per Muhammad) and the silencing and subduing of critical thought re Islam by Muslims.

Ibby Hooper and CAIR follow Hitler's advice in Mien Kampf re the supression of criticism:

Hitler: "I understood the infamous spiritual terror which this movement exerts, particularly on the bourgeoisie, which is neither morally nor mentally equal to such attacks; at a given sign it unleashes a veritable barrage of lies and slanders against whatever adversary seems most dangerous (Robert and others, e.g), until the nerves of the attacked persons break down and, just to have peace again, they sacrifice the hated individual (Robert, e.g.)..........Conversely, they praise every weakling on the opposing side, sometimes cautiously, sometimes loudly, depending on the real or supposed quality of his intelligence".

Ibby Hooper is a Brownshirt fascist Nazi. CAIR and Ibby "Heil Hooper" practice Hitler's "spiritual terror" tactics and the patriarchal tenants of Islam. They don't like criticism. They want to silence criticism. Ibby Hooper and CAIR are liars. They are liars.

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 6:04 PM

Only a religion with no balls would dare attack a woman who criticizes them.

Posted by: GetBornAgain [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 6:09 PM

Don Mohammad, the Godfaddah of Islam, set the rule:

-you criticize Islam, youse is askin' to be hit.

If one of the Muslim "critics" had been carrying a bomb, it would have been Nasreen's last appearance.

I applaud her courage to stay there and face them down.

And deplore the security for permitting this out-of-control outrage.


Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 6:12 PM

J.S., interesting. I'll have a look at Fregosi's book.

Posted by: traeh [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 6:12 PM

It's as simple as tolerance and intolerance.

Islam needs to be outed here in the free world,mercilessly.

It needs to stand before the world naked and un cloaked.

It offers nothing but brutality and slavery.

A man summed it up centuries ago "Muhammad brought nothing but evil and inhumane."

I would gladly donate to a world wide debate or even just a world wide reading of the koran for all to hear what it offers them.

Also note once again how brave the men are to be threatening and attacking a woman."Heroes ,lions and martyrs?" Islam knows nothing of these.

Cowards the lot of them.Sucker punching feeble little cowards.The female muslims are far braver and stronger than any muslim man espouses to be.

Posted by: Dar al-harb [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 6:16 PM

"Let he who is without sin, throw the first stone."
Note: Jesus did not throw a stone.
Posted by: tanstaafl

tanstaafl -- Are you suggesting that Jesus sinned? If so, you are not reading the Bible correctly and need to go back and re-read that passage.

Also, if that is what you are suggesting, this is not the place for that type of insult.

I hope I have misunderstood your meaning.

Posted by: Josephine [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 6:17 PM

Remember the SOWdi 'religious police' who wouldn't let a group of school girls to exit a burning building because they didn't have the requisite headcoverings?!

So they let the girls burn to death instead. I wonder if any of these girls had a last-moment epiphany re. the R.O.P. as they expired at the hands of these cruel 'saudists'.

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 6:23 PM

Rather ironic, yet illustrative, that the response to the accusation that Islam oppresses women was to attack a woman. In the same vein, there was the implication in the Danish Muhammed cartoons that Islam is violent, so Muslims became violent.
Hmmm...If accused of being peaceful, would Muslims just sit still?

Posted by: jewdog [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 6:24 PM

To those of us who are familiar with the cult of Islam, it is no surprise that barbarity and Islam go hand in hand.

Posted by: Alaskan [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 6:34 PM

and why not?

These tactics worked brilliantly for the Nazis, yet another religio-barbaric cult.

Posted by: arclein [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 6:42 PM

traeh, might add, some of what Fregosi writes (the chapter on Cyprus for example) is extremely, extremely brutal (disturbing). be forewarned, it's very graphic, and (for some sensitive types, maybe shouldn't be read (?). (just a warning).

Posted by: J.S. [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 6:49 PM

But he also said which like mo-ham-od you must not have read this means we aint wimps.

Luke 11:17 – 11:23 But he know their thoughts said: Every kingdom divided against its self is brought to desolation, and a house divided against a house falls. If Satan also is divided against himself how will his kingdom stand? Because you say I cast out demons by Beelzebub by whom do you sons cast them out?? Therefore They will be your Judges. But I cast out demons with the finger of God surly the Kingdom of God has come upon you. When a Strong Man Fully armed guards his own place, his goods are in peace. But when a stronger than he comes upon him and overcomes him taken from him all his armor in which he trusted and divides his spoils.
Luke 11:23 He who is not with me is against me and he who does not gather with me scatters.
Luke 22:35
And he said to them when I sent you without moneybag, knapsack and sandals did you lake anything: so they said Nothing then he said to them But now who has a moneybag let him take it and likewise a knapsack and he who has no sword let him sell his garments and buy one

Yea sounds like kick ass to me!!!


http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/8/8/81203.shtml?s=lh
Raid in Iraq Kills 32 Suspected Militants

Posted by: Catherine [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 6:55 PM

You know, I get tired of listen to so many people Blame the poor savages for their murderous proclivities - they are just mindless victims, the same as you or I would be if we were raised by that pagan bible of the revenge religions, The Koran. Instead, we should put the blame where it belongs, on those westerners who refuse to identify the plain and clear cause of all this Jihad Horror, the Koran, and all of those religions who belief that every word of the Koran is the unaltered word of the only God in the universe - but they say nothing, blame the Victims of this book of horrors instead of the Religions who live by it! The only real culprit is RELIGIOUS CORRECTNESS there is a psychotic religion, but no one will expose it as the real horror, no one at all, anywhere!

Posted by: tom [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 7:11 PM

Overheard as Abdul was flogging a woman:

"What? You said that islam is oppressive to women? (smack) Why you (smack) dirty (smack) dog (smack)! How (smack) dare (smack) you (smack) insult us male muslims like that! (smack) We are god's (smack) people (smack) and we will teach (smack) you and everybody (smack) else (smack) a lesson who says we are not."

"Peace (smack) be (smack) upon (smack) the (smack) prophet(smack)."

Posted by: angryeagle [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 7:40 PM

The next Nobel Prize for Peace might be given to a group of freethinking apostates from Islam: Taslima Nasreen, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Ibn Warraq, Ali Sina, and a dozen others (but among those dozen none of the publicity hounds or those who have only half-heartedly analyzed the failure, moral and intellectual, of Islam, such as Irshad Manji). What a bracing surprise that would be.

Posted by: Hugh [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 7:43 PM

angryeagle,
I like your dry sense of humor. Believe it or not the mob that attacked included state congressman of political party called MIM. Imagine if a conservative christian or hindu political party did this. All the hell will break loose. Media will be crying for ban on that political party!!! Hey this is just a poor islamic political party. They can do nothing wrong :-) . All are due to evil christians, hindus and jews :-) .

Posted by: Desi [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 7:46 PM

Same old same old from the practitioners of that lovely faith which the whole world knows is a religion of peace and tolerance. When will the sane portion of mankind, I wonder, say enough is enough?

Posted by: Wellington [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 7:49 PM

Ironically, the mafia is the only thing standing in the way of Europe's total Islamization. As Islam continues to make strides into Europe, sooner or later they'll step on the toes of organized crime and get whacked for their efforts. It'll be a nasty mob war--one that I don't think the Islamists can win.

Posted by: GetBornAgain [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 7:53 PM

Hugh,
Nobel Prize (or Noble Prize) for Taslima Nasrin, Ayaan Hirsi Ali... will be a good idea. Can you imagine the kind of protests that will break out of all coutries with TROP?
I guess apart from these Noble candidates for Nobel, Infidel soceities should also get a collective Nobel Peace prize. Because they have put up a positive attitude and moving forward(scientifically and economically) despite all the immature behaviour from so called minority among observers of TROP(to put in factually, atrocities and genocide).

Posted by: Desi [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 7:55 PM

Hugh, after witnessing what happened after the knighting of Rushdie, the Nobel Laureating of Nasreen et al would be too much for the ummah's collective lack of concience.

Posted by: Shakey_Premise [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 8:16 PM

Taslima Nasreen was driven from Bangladesh for criticizing Islam's treatment of women and had an imam issue a fatwa and bounty for her head.
She flees to India where Muslim clerics issue an $11,000 reward for decapitating her or driving her from India.

No wonder she looked uneasy.


Posted by: Nick Danger [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 9:04 PM

Definitely not Irshad Manji. She still worships the limestine idol known as "allah."

But, all of the others - A collective Nobel Prize, please.

Concerning irony - no, Islam does not recognize irony. It's stupid that way, among many other ways.

I'm horrified that the mayor of Brussels has banned the demo against Islamization of Europe on Sept. 11 - will it not happen, then? I could cry, really. Mohammedans get to demonstrate all the time with their nasty "Death to" signs - yet, non-Mohammedans can't peacefully demonstrate? The World's gone mad.

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 9:56 PM

Josephine -

What is sin?

I consider cruelty to be sin.

A group of men standing around throwing stones at a woman is cruel and hypocritical.

Since Jesus did not throw a stone, he did not sin.

(It is interesting that in Islam, they still stone women for adultery.)

No insult intended.

Just my failure to explain that I was pointing out a difference between Islam and another Middle Eastern religion.

tanstaafl

Posted by: tanstaafl [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 10:00 PM

Well, here's the deal, as everyone knows: The Mayor of Brussels doesn't want his city bombed by the Islamists.

Just as the Pope didn't want the Vatican bombed.

Sorry, Mayor and Pope - We have to stand up to them, end of story.

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 10:09 PM

Oops, Irshad Manji still worships the limeSTONE idol known as "allah." Who knows, maybe "allah" is composed of limestine, too, lol.

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 10:11 PM

Limestone? I don't think that's the case...The "cube" or Kaaba shrine is made of granite, and inside is where the Black Stone is housed. If it's a meteorite, I'm assuming the Black Stone (a black stone -- the black, stony heart of Islam, appropriate somehow) be composed primarily of iron (if it's a metallic meteorite.) I don't see how it could be made of limestone (wouldn't be a meteorite then). I read a hadith that says the Black Stone will be resurrected...with two eyes and a mouth...(unfortunately, i'm not joking...)

Posted by: J.S. [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 10:42 PM

tanstaafl -- Thanks so much for the clarification. I apologize for misunderstanding your post.

Posted by: Josephine [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 10:47 PM

I wrote and recorded the song 'The Apostasy of Taslima Nasrin' for anyone who is interested.

Email me at Oriana_tribute@yahoo.com and I'll send it to you.

Posted by: Cornelius [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 10:49 PM

Look at what the leader of the political party MIM, whose congressmen attacked Taslima, says in press release.

http://www.indianexpress.com/story/209643.html

Ofcourse only minority among observers of TROP have extremist views.

Posted by: Desi [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 10:52 PM

sorry about all the typo's above
Once again, You know, I get tired of listening to so many people blame the poor savages for their murderous proclivities - but they are just mindless victims, the same as you or I would be if we were raised by that pagan bible of the revenge religions, the Koran. Instead, we should put the blame where it belongs, on those westerners who refuse to identify the plain and clear cause of all this Jihad Horror, the Koran, and all of those religions who believe that every word of the Koran is the unaltered word of the only God in the universe - but they say nothing about these religions based on the Koran, but instead blame the victims of this book of horrors, the poor abused savages, instead of the psychotic religions and their Koran who force all these poor brainwashed victims to commit savage acts of murder! The only real culprits are those who try to live by not offending any mainstream and rich and powerful religion. These RELIGIOUSLY CORRECT people would have us believe that there is no such thing as a murderous and psychotic religion that is capable of driving a significant per-centage of it's followers insane, making them into mindless suicide bombers with a blind hatred of Jews and Catholics. Why is it we never hear a word about what is really wrong. There is such a thing as an anti human, and psychotic religion, and we are not going to get anywhere until someone is honest enough to name it directly and out loud. The problem must be attacked at it source! It won't do any good to just pull out some of it's hair.

Posted by: tom [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 11:09 PM

Hugh wrote:
The next Nobel Prize for Peace might be given to a group of freethinking apostates from Islam: Taslima Nasreen, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Ibn Warraq, Ali Sina, and a dozen others (but among those dozen none of the publicity hounds or those who have only half-heartedly analyzed the failure, moral and intellectual, of Islam, such as Irshad Manji). What a bracing surprise that would be.

Nice call.

Hopefully so, Hugh. Unfortunately the reality of fence-sitters like Manji will probably draw more attention from the MSM. Being an apostate from Islam effectively renders you a conservative, someone incapable of contributing to the discussion of the ideology itself, under current PC rules of media-driven public conduct.

By her feeble attempt to successfully play both sides of the fence however, she has alienated both sides to a percentage that not even a new haircut could offset. Nice call on her Hugh, again.

Nobel for Manji? ... Nonsense.

Posted by: awake [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 11:25 PM

"......... .........for free speech. But then again, the lot of women in Indian Hindu society isn't much better than they're Muslim counterparts.
Keep the funeral pyres burning, as the old song goes. "

Posted by: Ian at August 9, 2007 4:26 PM

Ian, this only betrays your ignorance and arrogance. Ignorance because you so unquestioningly believe the 18th century fiction of British colonialists who invented such tales to justify their colonial rule in India.
Arrogance because you refuse to acknowledge that Hindus are a civilization much older than your own and a friendly one at that unlike the Islamic barbarians. Bracketing Hindus with Islam is an extreme form of arrogance and ignorance.

As regards the point about "funeral pyres" and bride burning, this is BS.
The Hindu practice of "Johar" or "Sacrifice"
started in medieval times, when Muslim armies were
conquering Hindu India. The muslims would lay siege to forts/cities and when the worn out Hindu soldiers came out to surrender - they would all be brutally massacred, followed by the mass rape & forcible conversion to islam of all remaining Hindu women.

This may have been customary islamic tradition, which they practised in all lands they conquered.
However, physical violence against and denigration of womanhood in this manner was considered the most intolerable of all insults in Hindu civilization.

Therefore, the Hindu women would pray to God & commit collective suicide before their men left for battle - to avoid the humiliation of rape and forcible conversion to Islam.
But, why burn themselves, you may ask?
Why not just kill oneself in a less gruesome fashion, such as consuming poison or something similar?

Well, the Hindus discovered to their horror that the Muslims were such perverts that they even
indulged in necrophilia. Therefore, the supreme sacrifice was to be undertaken to protect chastity and honour at all costs.

This tradition was still relevant for the protection of Hindu widows as long as Muslim rule lasted in India, i.e. until the establishment of British rule, who were quite barbaric themselves, but infinitely better than the Muslims.

This was a noble tradition and I as a Hindu am proud of it, no matter what anyone may say out of their ignorance and arrogance.

And, yes - I am from Hyderabad - the city where these Muslim legislators assaulted the critic of islamic barbarianism.

Mark my words, the Hindus of India will show the way (on how to deal with muslims)to the western dhimmis like the pompous State Dept types - Madeleine Albright, Colin Powell, Condi Rice; the insufferable englishmen like Tony Blair & Gordon Brown & the "vegetable lasagna" Scandinavians who talk down to India and in favour of Muslim Pakistan.

Posted by: karyakarta92 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 11:39 PM

Well, there's one encouraging part of this story:

"Other men tried to shield her and catch the projectiles. She ended up with a bruised forehead, "

Yay for 'other men.' Some of these guys have some decency. And I'm guessing it takes real courage to stand between a raging Islamist and the object of their rage.

Posted by: Goob [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 11:40 PM

"Some radical Muslims hate Nasreen for saying Islam and other religions oppress women."

They hate her for telling the truth and exposing them for what they are.

Imagine.

Posted by: ThinkForYourself [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 9, 2007 11:48 PM

Off topic, but a Muslim troll is making a nuisance of himself in the comments section of an anti-jihad vid on youtube. I'm getting bored with fending him off alone: if anyone else wants to join in, it's at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24ndfid_UuQ

Posted by: wallyUK [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2007 12:00 AM

As for the Nobel; let's not get delusional.

Posted by: breezy55 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2007 12:01 AM

As for the men who stepped in and protected her...congrats brothers.

Posted by: breezy55 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2007 12:06 AM

Here is the VIDEO of the attack on TASLIMA guys. Muslim fanaticism caught live on TV: http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/46513/andhra-mlas-lead-mob-attack-on-taslima.html

And here's a PICTURE GALLERY. You can see the TERROR on Taslima Nasreen's face: http://www.ibnlive.com/photogallery/474-0.html

Posted by: Atlantean [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2007 3:01 AM

Here's a detailed description of the entire incident:

The Pioneer, 10th August 2007

Majlis men assault Taslima in public

Omer Farooq | Hyderabad

3 MIM MLAs arrested; party unrepentant

Controversial Bangladeshi writer Taslima Nasreen was roughed up and the organisers of her book release function were injured when workers of the Majlis-e-Ittehadul Muslimeen (MIM), led by three legislators, barged into the Hyderabad Press Club hall and ransacked it on Thursday. They attacked persons sitting on the dais with whatever they would lay their hands on and hurled abuses at the author. Some journalists were also injured in the incident.

The protesters were shouting slogans against Taslima Nasreen, accusing her of being an "anti-Islam writer who had committed blasphemy against the religion and its prophet". The workers, led by MLAs Ahmad Pasha Quadri, Afsar Khan and Moazzam Khan, demanded that Taslima should leave immediately.

As the intruders manhandled and pushed Taslima, the organisers of the programme tried to form a protective cordon around her. The legislators were seen throwing bouquets and whatever was on the dais. One of them even threatened to throw a chair at Taslima.

The writer, who had made international headlines with her novel Lajja in Bangladesh and had earned the ire of the Muslim clergy there, was in Hyderabad for the release of the Telugu version of her book Shodh. It was translated into Telugu by a local writer Venigalla Komla and the function was organised by the Centre for Inquiry, an organisation of rationalists. N Innaiah, the head of the organisation, was hurt in the face during the melee. Taslima, however, was not harmed in the incident.

The MIM supporters raided the place shortly after the programme had got underway but Taslima had not yet released the book or spoken at the function. The mob freely hurled abuses at the writer asking, how dare she enter Hyderabad after having abused Islam and its prophet.

"Hamare mazhab ke khilaf likhne ke baad tu kaise yahan aayee", asked Ahmad Pasha Quadri and demanded that she should be sent out of the hall immediately. "Nikalo bahar ...isko", said another in the crowd.

Meanwhile, some people broke the glass door of the hall and a few photographers and reporters were injured in the melee.

A harried and anxious looking Taslima remained stunned during the entire episode and a bouquet thrown at the dais hit her on the head. As the crowd was pushed out of the hall, the organisers and others took Taslima to the centre of the hall where she remained till the police took her into protective custody.

A team of policemen led by Inspector Ramanarasimha Reddy took her away to a safe place while the protesters, including the three legislators, were also taken into custody. The police was making arrangements to send her back from the city.

Deputy Commissioner of Police N Madhusudhan Reddy said that the three legislators and about a hundred others were taken into custody and they were waiting for complaints from the Press Club and the organisers of the book launch. He said that no security arrangements were made at the venue as the police had not been informed about Taslima's visit.

Mediapersons, who were angry over the incident in the Press Club, took out a protest march shouting slogans against the MIM legislators. They also made a representation to the Speaker of the Legislative Assembly demanding that they be disqualified from the House.

Strongly condemning the incident, Press Club president Shailesh Reddy said that those objecting to Taslima's presence could have taken up the issue in a more democratic and peaceful manner. "This is not the way to protest", he said.

The incident evoked condemnation from the BJP, CPI(M), ABVP and other organisations, including the Mahila Samakhya and Progressive Women's organisation. Muslim Social Forum, an intellectuals' organisation also condemned the incident.

However, MIM legislator Pasha Quadri defended the protest, saying, "first we are Muslims and then legislators. How was she allowed by the authorities to come to Hyderabad when they knew that Muslims were hurt by her writings. The communal elements and the Communists have joined hands to provide shelter to her in India", he said.

Posted by: Atlantean [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2007 3:48 AM

Ian posted

"But then again, the lot of women in Indian Hindu society isn't much better than they're Muslim counterparts.
Keep the funeral pyres burning, as the old song goes."

Remember Ian, the Vedas and Upanishads which are the original Hinduism bestow equal status to women in Hindu society with the men. Some practices are peculiar to certain Hindus because of history and geography. The practice which you mentioned is called jauhar and it originated among the Rajputs whose women burned themselves as they preferred death to dishonour, - the dishonour of being molested by the Muslim soldiers. So it is a manifestation of bravery and not a superstition.

I do agree with karkarta92 - the Hindus will show the world how to deal with Islam. The Hindus who are being driven into a tight corner by their own dhimmi government and the rest of the world every passing day, will give a mighty kick to everything that opposes free thought, peace and justice. Hindu tolerance is not a sign of weakness but a sign of patience. The time is just nearing for Hinduism to wear the crown of the world's best religion.


Posted by: proud-hindu [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2007 4:00 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6939753.stm

More than 50 people have been killed in clashes between troops and Islamist militants in the southern Philippines, military officials say.
The fighting, on Jolo island, began on Thursday when militants ambushed a military convoy, killing 10 soldiers.

Fifteen more soldiers died in later gun battles, and at least 27 militants were killed, the military said.

It blamed Islamic militant group Abu Sayyaf and rogue elements in the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF).

Thousands of Philippine troops, backed by US military trainers, are based in Jolo, some 950km (600 miles) south of the capital, Manila.

They have been fighting Islamist militants affiliated to various groups who have been hiding in the island's mountainous terrain for several months.

Gun battles

Thursday's fighting took place near the town of Maimburg.


Troops have been fighting militants in Jolo for several months

A troop convoy was ambushed on its way to the town early in the morning.

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They are bold.

Posted by: Borg [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2007 6:12 AM

I guess they proved her point.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2007 6:20 AM

...Incensed Muslims?....is there any other kind?...

Posted by: exsgtbrown [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2007 7:41 AM

From an article posted above by Atlantean:

"Mediapersons, who were angry over the incident in the Press Club, took out a protest march shouting slogans against the MIM legislators. They also made a representation to the Speaker of the Legislative Assembly demanding that they be disqualified from the House."

Now that's magnificent. The Indian media knows a threat to it's own when they see one. How many mediapersons in Oakland (or Califonia, or the US)have rallied in protest against the murder of Chauncey Bailey? How many of them know the implied threat to them all?

Posted by: freedomschool [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2007 8:04 AM

Why is it that Muslims cannot seem to produce gentlemen - only uneducated men that lack self-control? Is it their mothers or perhaps the horrible way their fathers treat their mothers?

Posted by: The Goobs [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2007 9:14 AM

"Well, there's one encouraging part of this story:

"Other men tried to shield her and catch the projectiles. She ended up with a bruised forehead, "

Posted by Goob"


Shield her? Why didn't they give the muslims bruises on THEIR foreheads? They should have been knocked on their azzes.

By the way, nice name.

Posted by: The Goobs [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2007 9:17 AM

Atlantean –- Thanks for the links.

karyakarta92 & proud-hindu –- I've learned from your posts today. Thank you.

Posted by: Josephine [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2007 10:01 AM

Maybe Ian was referring to the practice of "suttee" (?), I guess it's now spelled "Sati" (and it's outlawed everywhere in India).

There's an article about "Sati (practice)" at Wikipedia...

Here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_%28practice%29

Posted by: J.S. [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2007 1:38 PM

The religion of peace strikes again.

Posted by: DaveMate [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2007 2:02 PM

http://broadband.indiatimes.com/videoshow/2268057.cms

See video how muslims assaulted Famous Novelist Tasleema Nasreen.

Once again this has exposed real face of Islam .
Is this Secular Democratic Free India or Is it Sharia ruled Islamic Taliban India ???

Posted by: fcuk [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2007 3:32 PM

Hermit wrote

"Which century are you living in?
Have you ever been to India, do you know any Indians, more to the point do you know any Indian women?

You only demonstrate your ignorance and narrow minded views by posts like these."

er, no I haven't. Of course I must be imagining the hideous poverty, disease and corruption. It must all be in my mind. Of course India is a shining light of modern progressive men, who regard their sisters as fair and equal partners, dowries, honour killings, and the infanticide of female children doesn't exist in India's teeming slums. God it's such a modern nation. I bet they'll be joining the 19th Century before you can say abolish the Caste system.
Remember that train full of dynamite that exploded not long ago, and their were over 100 bodies, they never identified. Sounds like a modern Western country to me.
I'll make you a deal Hermit, I'll get out more, when you take the blinkers off.

Next week, Hermit proclaims people who've discovered corruption in South America are actually all part of a Martian conspiracy.

Posted by: Ian [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2007 5:07 PM

@Hermit & Proud Hindu

Ian is a religion-basher and know-it-all. Ignore him. If you asked Ian-the-ignoramus who Sri Aurobindo was, he wouldn't know!!!

If you asked Ian-the-ignoramus who Swami Dayananda is, again he would not know!

If you asked Ian-the-jackass who Swami Prabhubada was, again he would say, he never heard of him.

Ian is such an ignoramus, he would also say he doesn't care to know who they are!

You see, he's a true ignoramus.

Ignore Ian.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2007 5:30 PM

Hermit,

You're right. An Ignoramus and an arrogant one at that. Poverty, disease & corruption indeed.
These are the gifts of 1300 years of forign invasions and conquest, first by the Muslims, then by the insufferable Englishmen and the cruel
Portuguese. Before that, India was the wealthiest nation on earth, which is why Christopher Columbus set sail to conquer it.
He was probably an ignoramus like Ian which is why he landed up in America and called native Americans "Indians". Yes, there are problems left over from history - which will be addressed in due course. If a train gets bombed by Muslim terrorists and hundreds of innocent commuters get blown to bits - How is that the fault of India & the Hindus? Honour killings ? What honour killings ? Only a fool would confuse Muslims with Hindus and only a supremely arrogant idiot would refuse to acknowledge a mistake.

And, yes there are slums. But, there are slums in the USA too. I have seen homeless people scrounging for food in trash cans in New Mexico.
Does it mean all of the USA is like that?
And, who does not love his mother just because she is not rich or good looking?

Yes, India is really so poor that it donated
$700 million to the wretched Pakistanis after the eargthquake 2 years ago.
Yes, India is so wretched that it's navy was the first to reach Indonesia with aid after the Indian
ocean Tsunami & refuse all foreign aid for itself.
Yes, India is so stricken with poverty that Indian nationals contribute $600 million in taxes
to the U.S Social Security system annually.
Yes, India is so poor that Indian companies like
Mittal Steel, Tatas, Mahindra etc are taking over
MNC's across the world.

It is extreme prejudice to rebuff friendship from
1 billion people, heirs to one of the world's most ancient civilizations against the common enemy of Jihad.


Posted by: karyakarta92 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 10, 2007 10:09 PM

karyakarta92,

In addition...

When the modern, progressive, secular, rich and developed United States of America couldnt care for its own hurricane victims after Katrina hit New Orleans, regressive, backward, poor, ignorant, illiterate and underdeveloped India sent $5 million in aid.

http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/RWB.NSF/db900SID/KHII-6G64PS?OpenDocument&Click=
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050904/world.htm#3

Posted by: Atlantean [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 11, 2007 4:50 AM

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