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They might have thought of the difficulty it would cause them before conspiring. But if they succeed in intimidating the Justice Department into taking them off the list, they will have won a major victory.
"Muslim Groups Oppose a List of ‘Co-Conspirators,’" by Neil MacFarquhar for the New Duranty Times, aka the New York Times:
Two prominent Muslim American organizations took steps yesterday to reverse what they called a Justice Department effort to smear the entire Muslim community by naming some of its largest organizations as unindicted co-conspirators in a Texas terrorism trial.The National Association of Muslim Lawyers, which is not named, sent a letter to Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales objecting to the list, which it said breached the department’s own guidelines against releasing the names of unindicted co-conspirators and did not serve any clear law enforcement purpose.
The letter, also signed by the National Association of Criminal Defense Attorneys, said the “overreaching list” of more than 300 organizations and individuals would further cripple charitable donations to Muslim organizations and could ratchet up the discrimination faced by American Muslims since the Sept. 11 attacks.
In addition, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, which is on the list, announced that it would file a brief today asking Judge A. Joe Fish of the United States District Court for the Northern District of Texas to remove its name and all others from the list.
The brief, a copy of which was released yesterday, says the list furthers a pattern of the “demonization of all things Muslim” that has unrolled in the United States since 2001.
“Most people don’t understand what an unindicted co-conspirator is,” said Parvez Ahmed, CAIR’s board chairman, adding that the release of the list prompted death threats and hate mail against the council. “They think that being related to a terrorism case means we are terrorists.”
No, it means being related to a terrorism case.
Posted by Robert at August 16, 2007 6:50 PM
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charitable donations to Muslim organizations and could ratchet up the discrimination faced by American Muslims since the Sept. 11 attacks.
What a bunch of wiennie thin skinned islamists! boo hoo, how many muslims have been killed? how many have been beaten? none you say, but l guess hurt feelings count for something.
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at August 16, 2007 7:02 PM
“They think that being related to a terrorism case means we are terrorists.”It means that those co-conspirators have the same ideological goals as the islamo-fascists from Hamas and other islamo-fascist terrorrist organizations. Posted by: Crusader
at August 16, 2007 7:04 PM
Hitler is now complaining about being called a Nazi.
Lennon is complaining about being called a Communist.
Mickey Mouse is complaining about being called a rodent.
I am complaining because I am a law abiding citizen, and CAIR has more rights then me.
Posted by: alaskan1000 at August 16, 2007 7:06 PM
an apple is an apple and an orange is an orange...
“They think that being related to a terrorism case means we are terrorists."
If you support a cause that has ties to terrorism then yes you are a terrorist. Just like giving money to a drug user to by drugs supports the drug problem of that person...
Posted by: threatofislam.com at August 16, 2007 7:22 PM
If the shoe fits, let's shove it up their ass !
Posted by: Hebrew Handyman at August 16, 2007 7:29 PM
"But if they succeed in intimidating the Justice Department into taking them off the list, they will have won a major victory."
A more likly out come of the "Whines",
Cair's end.
"Prosecutors often have enough evidence to indict these individuals, but instead name them as unindicted co-conspirators for a variety of strategic reasons."
If Cair tries to intimidate the Justist Department, the may find themselves "indicted".
My bet is they drop this like a hot tatter.
http://www.fclr.org/articles/2004fedctslrev1(noframes).htm
A. Definition of "Unindicted Co-Conspirator"
[II.A.1] The term "unindicted co-conspirator" refers to any person who allegedly "agreed with others to violate the law but who is not being charged with an offense and who, consequently, will not be tried or sentenced for his criminal conduct."(24) The law permits admission of unindicted co-conspirators' statements and acts performed during and in furtherance of the conspiracy as evidence in determining the guilt or innocence of the indicted conspirators. (25) Prosecutors often have enough evidence to indict these individuals, but instead name them as unindicted co-conspirators for a variety of strategic reasons.
Posted by: Joe Schmoe USA at August 16, 2007 7:43 PM
Let me see, is CAIR saying the they are not the kettle or that they are not the black on the kettle? Oh, another one comes to mine, something like wanting their cake and eating it too. The old double standard. They speak with forked tongue, kemosobie.
The safest approach is to not believe (I use to say half) anything the say and question everything for the underling motive to advance Islam or put people to sleep.
Posted by: Im.mad.as.HELL! at August 16, 2007 8:39 PM
If CAIR intimidates the Justice Dept, then there is no justice in the Justice Dept. Sounds like a desperate try at a cover-up. CAIR must be sCAIRed.
Posted by: duh_swami at August 16, 2007 8:55 PM
Once CAIR is indicted they will no longer be called unindicted co-conspirators,problem solved. CAIR must be desperate and feeling the heat to pursue this foolish course of action. Ali Al-Timimi was also an unindicted co-conspirator in the "paintball Jihad" case he was later indicted, convicted and sentence to life in prison.
Posted by: Roxane at August 16, 2007 9:15 PM
CAIR itself should be outlawed as a terrorist sympathizer and promoter organization funded by foreign government(s) - like th Saudis.
It has to be on borrowed time; may that happen soon.
at August 16, 2007 10:02 PM
CAIR has a link to their brief posted at their website. Jihadwatch, LGF and Frontpage magazine are mentioned in the brief.CAIR whines in the brief about this site and others referring to them as unindicted co-conspirators in a terror trial.The brief also appears to have been thrown together as it contains typos and spelling errors.
Black's Law Dictionary
Co-Conspirator. One who engages in an illegal confederacy with others
Co-Conspirator's rule. Under the "co-conspirator exception" to the hearsay rule, acts and declarations of a co-conspirator made in furtherance of the conspiracy are admissible against a defendant even when they are made out of the defendants presence.
Posted by: Roxane at August 16, 2007 10:04 PM
Has that arab banker and bully Maffouse visited America lately ?
He should be sued for malicious prosecution - and joy - his pocket is so deep with possibly the Saudi treasury behind it.
How we get some of our petrodollars back.
Posted by: dgene at August 16, 2007 10:07 PM
"They think that being related to a terrorist case means we're terrorists."
And in the of the CAIR that would be the truth.
Try 'em and fry 'em!
Posted by: pythagoras at August 16, 2007 11:21 PM
What's the big diff?
Is there a good way to avoid the implication either way?
News announcer: CAIR, named as unindicted co-conspirator in a terrorist funding indictment, filed another lawsuit today....
or
News Announcer: CAIR, previously named as unindicted co-conspirator in a terrorist funding indictment, filed another lawsuit today...
terrorist- funding- conspiracy.
Damage done.
Let's move on to the next skirmish.
Posted by: Leave Iraq Now at August 16, 2007 11:46 PM
Write to the Attorney General about CAIR here:
AskDOJ@usdoj.gov
Let the DOJ know that they made the right move in naming CAIR a co-conspirator:
Send them this:
"A Night of Hamas "Heroes"
Joe Kaufman
3/8/2004
Frontpagemagazine
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=12470
Excerpt-
"Shortly after September 11, 2001, while the world grieved over the attacks on America, Nihad Awad and CAIR took advantage of the suffering by placing on their website a picture of the World Trade Center in flames and under it a call for donations. It read, “What you can do for the victims of the WTC and Pentagon attacks,” and by clicking on “Donate to the NY/DC Emergency Relief Fund” one was unsuspectingly sent directly to the website of the Holy Land Foundation.
A week later, the wording of the site was changed, as visitors to the site were directly told to “Donate through the Holy Land Foundation. The link was on CAIR’s website up until the beginning of December, when the information mysteriously disappeared."
"On December 4, 2001, the reason for the disappearance was apparent, as the Holy Land Foundation’s assets were blocked by the United States government for funneling money to Hamas. According to the White House website, “The U.S.-based Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development [provided] millions of dollars each year that was used by Hamas.”
at August 16, 2007 11:53 PM
*GASP* You mean to tell me that ibby the terrorist doesn't like being called a terrorist?
A spade is a spade...so what's his problem?
Ohhh, that's right!
Exposure makes him look as evil as he IS.
Ok...now it makes sense.
;-)
at August 17, 2007 12:36 AM
They should be a named indictment
Posted by: Don Singleton at August 17, 2007 12:38 AM
"The letter, also signed by the National Association of Criminal Defense Attorneys, said the “overreaching list” of more than 300 organizations and individuals would further cripple charitable donations to Muslim organizations and could ratchet up the discrimination faced by American Muslims since the Sept. 11 attacks.""
.....good.....they earned the attention they are getting...lets go further...ban Muslim immigration....
Posted by: exsgtbrown at August 17, 2007 6:02 AM
Are they whining about being left out? Perhaps the government should indict them. Now wouldn't that be amusing, especially when people dig up all those on-line photo-ops?
Posted by: Seymour Paine at August 17, 2007 8:37 AM
CAIR collected $50,000 in my town for the people of India for the earthquake. What a surprise! The last I heard they were attacking India! For what reason..the truth!...it is always for them to grow and to transform us into a islamic state! Our contribution to fight ourselfs! Kill us! To help CAIR grow! Hooper I cannot stand to listen to him! He is so...so....misguided, he needs your help Robert that man is so....confused and vile!
Posted by: MZ at August 17, 2007 1:50 PM
Hey CAIR, it's a done deal now...Too late, we already know. º¿~
Posted by: herself at August 17, 2007 3:04 PM
Oh man! I forgot...now I know why they're really upset!
Nobody offered them any cheese to go with their whine!
Shame on us for such bad manners!
lol
at August 17, 2007 10:38 PM
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