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August 29, 2007

Spencer commenting on your website?

Have I left a comment at your website? Almost certainly not. I barely have time to leave comments at this one. I did comment at a site a few weeks ago, at the invitation of a friend, and can't remember the time before that that I commented on any site besides this one.

However, someone is using my name and linking to this site, leaving comments purporting to be by me at other sites. These comments are, as you may imagine, abusive and absurd, designed to bring me and this site into disrepute.

Note here again: the opponents of Jihad Watch cannot, and do not, bring forth even one single example of anything I have written that is false. Instead, they resort to lies and smears -- just look at the comments fields of the Derbyshire/Spencer exchanges at Pajamas Media, and the recently published CAIR farrago.

Their desperation is showing.

But the bottom line is this: if you see "Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch" commenting at some weblog, it almost certainly isn't I. If you have any doubt, ask me.

Posted by Robert at August 29, 2007 8:54 AM
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Thanks for warning us, Mr. Spencer.

People, Academia Watch:

The LSU school newspaper "The Reveille" has a new Islamic Opinion Writer, Mohammed Elrawady. Here is his first article this semester. It's very bland and doesn't concern Islam, I think.

Check for yourself:


http://media.www.lsureveille.com/media/storage/paper868/news/2007/08/29/Opinion/Cultural.Diversity.Gives.Words.Different.Meanings-2941560.shtml

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 9:15 AM

Robert,

Someone left a comment on my MySpace blog, saying that I couldn't write my way out of a wet paper bag. Was that you? LOL

Identity "theft" on the internet blogs! Good grief--they are desperate, aren't they?

Posted by: Abscedere [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 9:16 AM

I wouldn't of assumed it was you, after all, I don't figure I rate that high. LOL!

Posted by: Sniper One [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 9:43 AM

Well if anyone leaves a comment with your name talking smack, I'll know it's not you. I know you have enough class not to spew such bad stuff.

Posted by: wrathofasma [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 10:14 AM

Thanks Robert for the headsup.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 10:26 AM

A desperate bunch indeed. They lose every argument so they stoop lower into the sewer and resort to making it all up.

What a sad bunch.

You're hitting them for six , Mr Spencer.

Posted by: ewha1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 10:29 AM

Darcy,

I think Mr. lrawadyr's article has a great deal to do with Islam. It's an attempt to deflect attention away from dysfunctions of the Islamic world by attributing those dydfunctions to the West.


"There are many different perceptions of foreigners in industrial countries. Some people
are strictly xenophobic, like European neo-Nazis"

Is this the best he can do to make his point when the Islamic world is filled with such people?

"others are more tolerant towards foreigners as long as they imitate the local way of life."

Is he talking about Christians in an Islamic society?


"many foreigners like to think of a cowboy as someone who would do anything, regardless of its ethical and moral appropriateness. In other words, a cowboy could be someone who discards all cultural and intellectual products of civilization, adhering only to the law of the jungle."

Naturally he's talking about the moral depravity of the West. Why use "cowboys" as an example when "Jifadists" would be a far more appropriate and timely term.


"A cowboy can also be someone who lacks the courage to admit wrongdoing and apologize if necessary."

In other words, Islamic societies have nothing to apologize for. Only the West has something to apologize for (personified by President Bush).


Sly, but very transparent.

Posted by: rational [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 10:46 AM

Any webmaster/blogger seeing such fraudulent comments on his/her site should capture the IP address of the offender and send it to Robert.

Most likely they will be proxied, but -- you just never know; stupid is as stupid does.

And if any of the IPs originate in Ohio, I'll give you one guess who the culprit might be.

Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 10:53 AM

Regarding the Derbyshire and Spencer debate there is one interesting point that I think Derbyshire missed. Atheism is mostly an outgrowth of the secular Christian world. As such he, himself, has been heavily influenced by the Judeo-Christian ethic of peace.

Had he come from Muslim world I rather suspect he'd sound more like the folks on Ali Sina's various web sites. (He'd also likely understand Spencer's arguments a whole lot better.)

{^_^}

Posted by: jdow [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 11:02 AM

What a childish and stupid thing to do.

It just goes to show how some people can not handle the fact that, in the marketplace of ideas, they might as well be Made in China.

Posted by: Dave [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 11:05 AM

That is just sad. Just shows how far and in any way the threat will spread.

Posted by: threatofislam.com [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 11:16 AM

rational - why don't you make those comments on the article site? Thanks for your input, I see what you're saying. Yes, "sly!"

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 11:40 AM

rational: I'm in agreement with you about the article in the LSU newspaper by Mohammed Elrawady. It's nothing short of a thinly veiled criticism of the West. It just helps to prove the point that multiculturalism is a one-way street. What the West (particularly America) does is bad, ignoble and reeking with prejudice and what the rest of the world (most of which is dysfunctional, which is why so many people want to come to Western countries)does is noble, pure and good. What rot. Same old same old.

Posted by: Wellington [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 11:52 AM

Well that's it Robert.

Will start a website so can be honoured by your commenting on it.

But wait. The JW website is great. No need to.

Never mind.

Posted by: dgene [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 12:05 PM

Hmmmm. I wonder if that would qualify as slander in a court of law?

They are using gutter tactics. Anyone who has read Robert Spencer's writing or seen his interviews or Hot Air segments knows he is a man of integrity who does not use such tactics or such language.

Posted by: Josephine [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 12:33 PM

Hey Wellington - why don't you make that great comment of yours on the lsu site?

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 12:54 PM

Cowardly worm! Only a slimy coward attempts to smear the reputation of an honest man.

Truth causes the worms to rise up, but they eventually have to return underground to their dark holes and feed on themselves.

Posted by: champ [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 1:10 PM

I am in agreement that the LSU site needs a notation. Why do all these malcontents come to the U.S. if it's so bad? (And muhammed is showing a little too much chest hair.)

As far as Mr. Spencer's good name being abused, I can't say that I'm surprised. We know CAIR visits this site.

We know they were watching that Florida preacher at 1 a.m., too.

Posted by: CapitalistGig [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 1:36 PM

Robert, I'm not surprised. They can't debate you openly and honestly, they can't deny the truths you speak, so they go on a campaign to smear your good name and Jihad Watch. Fortunately, most of the people who post here are quite aware of the reality of the situation and are too smart and well informed to fall for this. Thanks for the heads up.

Best to you and yours.

Posted by: Proud Infidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 1:53 PM

Uh Huh, this "Mohamed" columnist at LSU comes here to our country for school and in his column defames Europe and the U.S. president.

Why didn't he just attend the U of Islamabad?

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 2:03 PM

Robert:

You can bet on it...we'll be watching for this fraud.
Sheer desperation anyone would do this, though it's a common tactic on their part to impersonate their enemies, especially CAIR hacks...
...one only need to track the IP and see it's not coming from Robert Spencer, but someone else.
Obviously, any hellraiser over such incidents come with no homework done...only jump-to-conclusion accusations.

Someone's trying to set Robert up...another clear and unmistakable sign of the effectiveness of Robert Spencer, his staff, and JihadWatch site in general, which is obviously profound...lest the fraudulent imitators be trying such infantile tactics as impersonating...they really need a new playbook.

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 2:45 PM

Just when you thought they couldn't get any lower...Pathetic.

Posted by: mrockroll1969 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 3:02 PM

I read Muhammed's article again. He claims to be a world traveler and praises three countries as the most welcoming: Egypt, Thailand, and Malaysia. The most welcoming to whom? Sex tourists and terrorists? The USA was not on his list.

I can't let this go. Who edit this rag? Muhammed must be told that rotten countries, the kind he feels welcome in, have universities, too. No need to seek an education in 'xenophobia.'

My niece attends LSU. For every Muhammed, there is another student who was not admitted, did not get aid, and is not able to publish journalism.

Posted by: CapitalistGig [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 3:05 PM

Robert, do you not leave comments at HotAir in your Blogging the Qur'an posts? I've seen many comments by you in those threads.

Posted by: Tushar Saxena [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 3:39 PM

The opposition is getting weak kneed and has butterflys in it's stomach. A sure sign of mental deterioration and panic.

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 4:33 PM

Wow, CapitalistGig, your niece goes to LSU?

Methinks you should leave a comment. It's a shame she has to be affronted with such anti-Americanism by a Mohammedan. What is U.S. Academia coming to??? Stupid political correctness?

Posted by: darcy [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 4:39 PM

"However, someone is using my name and linking to this site, leaving comments purporting to be by me at other sites. These comments are, as you may imagine, abusive and absurd, designed to bring me and this site into disrepute".-Robert

There is an organized Nazi style propaganda going on here. This kind of thing requires the resources and an investigation by appropriate government agencies.

Why not alert somebody at the Dept. of Homeland Security? I think these campaigns of slander and lies, the poses of victimization, the law suits, the Flying Imam crap, the attacks on JW, are all organized. They are not random. There are a lot of people involved in this propaganda jihad.

Posted by: Frank [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 5:56 PM

Tushar

Yes, you're quite right. I had forgotten that. Michelle Malkin had asked me to respond to questions on the Blogging the Qur'an segments, and I have done so indeed.

But aside from that, occasional comments here, and one other instance which I mentioned in the post above, I haven't commented on any sites.

Cordially
Robert Spencer

Posted by: jihadwatch [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2007 6:34 PM

$5 says it's some liberal from daily KOS.

Posted by: non-redneck [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 30, 2007 12:02 AM

Nothing new here, Robert. They've been putting words in your mouth for years in their strawman arguments.

I think you know you're "preaching to the choir" here, but perhaps newbies to your writing need the help. For anyone unsure I'll give my rule for separating the real Spencer from the phonies.

Does it contain hatred towards any group of people, incitement to harm muslims without cause or to do violence to innocent people? Then it ain't Spencer.

I've been reading Spencer for over a year now and the only times such words appear in his writings are when he quotes from hatemongers and violent people, or mimics them as an illustration of how they speak or think.

While many people who come to this site and comment may degenerate into low comments and hateful speech Spencer does not, and it is important to distinguish.

Note that hating a hateful doctrine is not the same as hating those who adhere to that doctrine.

Spencer is a professing christian, and as christians we are commanded to love even our enemies, to do good to those who spitefully use and abuse us. Of course, this does not mean that we must roll over and play dead, or put our heads in the sand, when evildoers come to do injustice -- Christians are to stand up for justice and truth. Sometimes justice, and truth, are necessarily harsh; but even this harshness needn't exclude love and respect for human dignity, even that of an evildoer.

How can you stand for justice, calling to account those who do and speak evil? It's a little thing we christians call "speaking the truth in love". I may tell you you're a sinner and on your way to Hell, but I can love you at the same time. In any case, so am I, apart from the grace of God.

Churches are not museums for saints--they are hospitals for sinners. We're all in the same boat. No man or woman on earth is beyond the redemption that Christ freely offers, and noone is so good he is beyond needing this redemption. Christ is the great equalizer.

Paul the Apostle, who referred to himself as "the greatest of sinners", at one time persecuted christians to the death. As unlikely as it might seem, I believe it is possible that one day even Usama may turn to Christ. While defense of the innocent may well mean that we must use lethal force to stand for what is right, ours is not a creed that seeks the destruction of our enemies but their redemption.

I would proffer the following motto to any fellow christians actively involved in anti-jihad (optional for non-christians, but christians are bound to loving the sinner while hating the sin) -- the acronym is ISLAM:

I - I
S - Sincerely
L - Love
A - All
M - Muslims

(Credit for the slogan to Dr. Anis Shorrosh, well-known debator, and lover, of muslims). Love, truth, and the cross are our secret weapons, which the Islamists cannot understand.

Posted by: Archimedes2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 31, 2007 12:23 AM

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