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Relax! Take your shoes off! Jihad is an interior spiritual struggle! Nothing to be concerned about at all! Everybody out to the beach!
By Matt Vande Bunte for The Grand Rapids Press:
GRAND RAPIDS -- Next time you hear "jihad" associated with a terrorist act, consider it a politicized perversion of a spiritual concept.Bilal Sambur says you should instead think of the term the way most of the world's billion Muslims understand it: a pervasive morality that governs daily life.
Sambur, director of the Turkish Association for Liberal Thinking's Centre for the Study of Religion and Freedom, is spending a month at the Acton Institute for the Study of Religion & Liberty.
Just as the Grand Rapids think tank explores the role of Christian morality in a free-market economy, Sambur said he promotes democracy and free religious expression within the context of Islam.
"There is a need to rediscover what 'jihad' really means," said Sambur, a Muslim who teaches at Suleyman Demirel University in Turkey. "Jihad is not equal to holy war. It is an ethical and spiritual concept. It means a human being must spend all his effort to actualize spiritual ideas in his individual and social life.
"This is not my personal definition. This is what the Prophet defines."
The Prophet. Hmmm. Uh, that would be Muhammad, right? Oh yes, I think I've heard of him. And as a prophet, he delivered to the world a holy book, didn't he? Let's see, I think I've heard of it -- the -- the Qur'an, that's it! Of course!
Now, in it, is jihad really simply the idea that "a human being must spend all his effort to actualize spiritual ideas in his individual and social life"? Can you explain, please, Mr. Sambur, how the idea that Jews and Christians must be warred against until they submit to Islamic rule, pay a special tax, and "feel themselves subdued" (Qur'an 9:29) represents the actualization of a spiritual idea? Do you mean, perhaps, by "spiritual idea" the idea of Sharia supremacism, with its "actualization" in "social life" involving warfare against unbelievers?
Take also another passage, one that isn't usually adduced in discussions of Qur'anic teaching on jihad. Qur'an 4:71-104 is an extended passage exhorting the believers to go forth courageously to jihad warfare. Ibn Kathir explains v. 71 in this way: “Allah commands His faithful servants to take precautions against their enemies, by being prepared with the necessary weapons and supplies, and increasing the number of troops fighting in His cause.” A warrior should fight fearlessly, for “whether he is slain or gets victory” he will be rewarded (v. 74).
How is all this talk of weaponry and the possibility of being slain in battle consonant with the idea that jihad is primarily the actualization of a spiritual idea? (Unless, again, that spiritual idea is that Sharia should be the supreme law throughout the world, with non-Muslims subjugated).
The passage goes on to say that one will not escape death by declining to fight, for “all things are from Allah” (v. 78). And in any case, Allah will “restrain the fury of the unbelievers” (v. 84). V. 90 is sometimes adduced as proof that Muslims have no open-ended mandate to fight unbelievers, but the Tafsir al-Jalalayn makes clear that this refers only to unbelievers who submit to Islamic rule: “And so if they stay away from you and do not fight you, and offer you peace, reconciliation, that is, [if] they submit, then God does not allow you any way against them, [He does not allow you] a means to take them captive or to slay them.” V. 95 says that those believers who stay home and risk no injury are not equal to those who wage jihad.
Do not passages such as this demonstrate definitively that what the Qur’an means by jihad is not an interior spiritual struggle, but warfare? Why should anyone fear death or the fury of the unbelievers, or shorten his prayers in view of an impending attack by the unbelievers (v. 101), in a spiritual struggle? How can one kill a fellow Muslim by accident (v. 92) in a spiritual struggle?
Sambur goes on to say that he likes eating at McDonalds, and therefore there is no clash of civilizations. I am all for Muslims adapting to Western mores while living here, but his talk might have been a bit more reassuring if he had dealt forthrightly with the passages about jihad that I mention above, and many others like them.
But probably no one in the audience knew enough about the Qur'an to ask him about them -- demonstrating once again the utility of being well-informed. For if he had been asked about them, his answers, or his reaction, might have been most illuminating and instructive to his non-Muslim audience.
Posted by Robert at September 1, 2007 9:36 AM
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at September 1, 2007 9:42 AM
This is why I educate whenever I can so ppl arent hoodwinked by this slick talk.
Posted by: Elric66 at September 1, 2007 9:44 AM
The Acton Institute is a good place, too. Someone should call Fr. Sirico and tell him how confused his visiting scholar is.
Sheesh.
Posted by: miasarx at September 1, 2007 9:56 AM
Mr. Sambur will be spending a month at the Acton Institute for the Study of Religion & Liberty.
Which politicized perverters will he be addressing?
The President of Iran and his spiritual commanders? The members of Hamas and Hezbullah? The sharia cops from Banda Aceh? The faithful of the Red Mosque in Pakistan?
I hope they are all on the guest list because Mr. Sambur's soft talk about inner jihad will not reach their ears otherwise.
Posted by: Josephine at September 1, 2007 10:00 AM
I've kept this study in my favorites on jihad by Reverend Richard P. Bailey, who breaks Jihad down into 4 different phases from Mecca to Medina.
The 26 page study is well worth the read for a further understanding of the history of jihad.
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Bailey/jihad.htm
Posted by: Mackie at September 1, 2007 10:17 AM
killing none muslims for being none uslims is ordained in the Quran
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Mischief
Shirk is worse than Killing
Since Jihad involves killing and shedding the blood of men, Allah indicated that these men are committing disbelief in Allah, associating with Him (in the worship) and hindering from His path, and this is a much greater evil and more disastrous than killing. Abu Malik commented about what Allah said:
﴿وَالْفِتْنَةُ أَشَدُّ مِنَ الْقَتْلِ﴾
(And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing.) Meaning what you (disbelievers) are committing is much worse than killing.'' Abu Al-`Aliyah, Mujahid, Sa`id bin Jubayr, `Ikrimah, Al-Hasan, Qatadah, Ad-Dahhak and Ar-Rabi` bin Anas said that what Allah said:
﴿وَالْفِتْنَةُ أَشَدُّ مِنَ الْقَتْلِ﴾
(And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing.) "Shirk (polytheism) is worse than killing.''
at September 1, 2007 10:22 AM
Just like the MSM, the Jihadist are upset that the internet isn't only used to spew "The Party Line", but also get the real facts on say... photoshopped pictures, the information left out by the biased journalist. Or the true meaning of "Jihad", (which I still believe has no link what so ever with the "True Meaning of Christmas" regardless what the apologist say.)
Hence way they want the Fairness Doctrine.
Equal time for Jihadist on JW!! End all these "Double Ungood Thoughts" you've all been having!!!
Posted by: senor doeboy at September 1, 2007 10:23 AM
Make me barf.
More spin from Taquiyya global relations inc...
Just think the opposite of what they say and you'll get the true meaning. And also presto!!! it aligns with the actions of fundamentalist Muslims all over the plant.
Duh.
Posted by: SoteriA at September 1, 2007 10:48 AM
Humm....re-education, will that be conducted in camps like Pol Pot did in Cambodia? I feel much safer with new muslim speak...
Posted by: infidel1975 at September 1, 2007 10:49 AM
This article should have had a warning: "Do Not Attempt to Drink Hot Coffee While Reading This..."
Ouch. That was painful.
Posted by: Goob at September 1, 2007 10:50 AM
it aligns with the actions of fundamentalist Muslims all over the plan[e]t.
Posted by: SoteriA at September 1, 2007 10:50 AM
004.084
YUSUFALI: Then fight in Allah's cause - Thou art held responsible only for thyself - and rouse the believers. It may be that Allah will restrain the fury of the Unbelievers; for Allah is the strongest in might and in punishment.
Well, I don't think it's Allah doing it. We are being too restrained despite our best interests.
Posted by: venividivici at September 1, 2007 10:53 AM
I wonder if this is part of the billions from the ME being poured into the media to improve Islams image , or is this just wackos with a soapbox?
Posted by: KAOSKTRL at September 1, 2007 10:59 AM
I mean normally you would think journalist would make an effort to make a balanced report and would have some interview skills.
I guess opinion is all it takes now.
Pathetic.
Even I studied Islam before I offered an opinion.
at September 1, 2007 11:06 AM
If jihad is a INNER STRUGGLE than why does it always result in external invasions, physical attacks on non-believers, and bombings??
I see muslims on newsbroadcasts screaming out JIHAD and they dont seem to plan on keeping it on the inside.
Were not the islamic invasions of Spain, France, Byzantium Empire, Italy, the siege of Vienna, and Hungary also known as jihads?????
What am I missing here?
Oh yes, I am taking the nature of islam out of context again.
It is my fault.
Posted by: Hungarian Crusader at September 1, 2007 11:35 AM
Bilal Sambur should be asked to reconcile his presentation of Islam, so carefully spiffed and titivated for the intended audience of Infidels, with that a million clerics all over the Muslim world think, and teach, their Believers to believe, and what has been so clearly enunciated by every Believer who truly knows, and is unconcerned with what the Infidels know or might find out.
Let's start with the Grand Old Man of Iran, the Ayatollah Khomeini, who was deeply learned in Muslim theology, who reached the highest rank -- that of Ayatollah -- based on his knowledge of Islam, and who once set out in words he never rejected or modified, his thorough no-nonsense understanding of Islam.
Here it is:
Islam is Not a Religion of Pacifists
"Islam’s jihad is a struggle against idolatry, sexual deviation, plunder, repression, and cruelty. The war waged by [non-Islamic] conquerors, however, aims at promoting lust and animal pleasures. They care not if whole countries are wiped out and many families left homeless. But those who study jihad will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world. All the countries conquered by Islam or to be conquered in the future will be marked for everlasting salvation. For they shall live under [God’s law]. ...
Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does that mean that Muslim should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers]? Islam says: Kill the [the non-Muslims], put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]. Does this mean sitting back until [non-Muslims] overcome us? Islam says: Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you! Does this mean that we should surrender [to the enemy]? Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to paradise, which can be opened only for holy warriors!
There are hundreds of other [Koranic] psalms and hadiths [sayings of the prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim."
Who knows more, and who - what's more -- is telling the truth to an audience of fellow Muslims rather than to an audience of Infidels? Is it, in this corner, wearing the black trunks, the Ayatolah Khomeini? Or is it, in this corner, also wearing black trunks which have been temporarily covered by some white trunks that he is clumsily holding onto in a ludicrous attempt to hide the black trunks underneath, Bilal Sambur?
What do you think?
Posted by: Hugh at September 1, 2007 11:36 AM
Bilal Sambur says "you should instead think of the term the way most of the world's billion Muslims understand it: a pervasive morality that governs daily life."
--from the article--
Same old, Same old. it is obvious to me that my interpretation of what jihad means pales in comparison to that of the Islamists, who's misinterpretation of the concept is becoming pandemic in nature.
If Mr. Sambur was addressing Muslims specifically in this regard, his words might contain some value, but alas, he is speaking to us infidels, effectively saying, "pay no attention to that man behind the curtain sharpening his scimitar."
Another decpetive Islamist tool is what Sambur is.
Posted by: awake at September 1, 2007 11:48 AM
There is a need to rediscover what 'jihad' really means," said Sambur, a Muslim who teaches at Suleyman Demirel University in Turkey. "Jihad is not equal to holy war. It is an ethical and spiritual concept.
And the Bush administration, Eurabian dhimmis keep supporting ruling AKP with an intention to transform this country into a "mild" (whatever fuck it means) islamist cesspool !
Well, thank you America, thank you Europe ! You are doing a great job.
As a last resort, I am appealing to the children of Israel ( the only truly secular state left in the M.E): Will you let Turkey -with which your governments entertained good relations- slide into islamist mud ? Do you seriously intend to add one more islamist country around your state so that now your citizens have to look more frequently over their shoulders.
As someone who lived in Brooklyn (USA) back in 1974, I can say I know who (or which group) has the last say on the US foreign policy.
Bush and his gang may be idiots, but the Jewish people in the task force are definitely not stupid. The Jewish people produced ( and keep producing) world' finest people in science, technology, arts, economics, etc.
What is the truth lurking behind Israel's policy with respect to Turkey ?
Your people have lived surrounded by islamist shit for 50 yrs and have suffered the consequences. Then what is the big idea of pushing islamism into a country which so far managed to withstand the islamist assault?
at September 1, 2007 12:09 PM
Re: GRAND RAPIDS -- Next time you hear "jihad" associated with a terrorist act, consider it a politicized perversion of a spiritual concept.
Propaganda. Pass it on to Karl Ernst, the Zachary Smith Distinguished Professor at UNC. He seems to like propaganda. "Apes and Pigs" will pass on the propaganda and keep a sharp eye on professors.
Posted by: Frank at September 1, 2007 12:16 PM
This bilal moron is like the old cigerrete smoker who says that you shouldn't smoke and that he also aviods smoking as he takes another puff.
by his very own definiyion of jihad he fails miserbally. He says he loves eating at Mcdonald's. The one establishment where non halal food is served by unclean kafir christians,hindus,sikhs,buddhists,athiest,animsts,voodists etc. personal jihad for you but not for him.
at September 1, 2007 12:18 PM
You don't understand....the thread used for this garment is so fine that only the best people can see it....see "The Emperor's New Clothes".
http://books.google.com/books?id=YJHsl3rXNt8C&dq=&pg=PP1&ots=YN4EWt-b3A&sig=aDe8-aXWM1mhaIUjuu4RioGEso0&prev=http://www.google.com/search%3Fq%3DEmperor%27s%2BNew%2BClothes%26ie%3Dutf-8%26oe%3Dutf-8%26aq%3Dt%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26client%3Dfirefox-a&sa=X&oi=print&ct=title#PPP1,M1
Will our "explainers" never give up? Occam's Razor is a pretty good standard to judge by. Newspaper articles about terror....television....the terrorists' own admissions...
Posted by: interestinconundrum at September 1, 2007 12:20 PM
From the current Al-Azhar-approved Shafi'i legal text:
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The Reliance of the Traveller. Version 1.06 - By Ahmad Ibn Naqib Al-Misri
BOOK O: JUSTICE >> Chapter O-9.0: Jihad
Chapter O-9.0: Jihad
(O: Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad. As for the greater jihad, it is spiritual warfare against the lower self (nafs), which is why the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said as he was returning from jihad.
``We have returned from the lesser jihad to the greater jihad.''
The scriptural basis for jihad, prior to scholarly consensus (def: b-7) is such Koranic verses as:
1- ``Fighting is prescribed for you'' (Koran 2:216);
2- ``Slay them wherever you find them'' (Koran 4:89);
3- ``Fight the idolators utterly'' (Koran 9:36);
and such hadiths as the one related by Bukhari and Muslim that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said:
``I have been commanded to fight people until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and perform the prayer, and pay zakat. If they say it, they have saved their blood and possessions from me, except for the rights of Islam over them. And their final reckoning is with Allah''
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The Reliance of the Traveller. Version 1.06 - By Ahmad Ibn Naqib Al-Misri
BOOK O: JUSTICE >> Chapter O-9.0: Jihad
O-9.8: The Objectives of Jihad
The caliph (o-25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o-11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,
"Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled" (Koran 9.29),
the time and place for which is before the final descent of Jesus (upon whom be peace). After his final coming, nothing but Islam will be accepted from them, for taking the poll tax is only effective until Jesus' descent (upon him and our Prophet be peace), which is the divinely revealed law of Muhammad. The coming of Jesus does not entail a separate divinely revealed law, for he will rule by the law of Muhammad. As for the Prophet's saying (Allah bless him and give him peace),
"I am the last, there will be no prophet after me,"
this does not contradict the final coming of Jesus (upon whom be peace), since he will not rule according to the Evangel, but as a follower of our Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) )."
http://www.muhaddith.org/cgi-bin/e_Optns.exe
Other Islamic sources:
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/hadeeth/riyad/11/book11.htm
Riyad-us-Saleen. Book of Jihad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_of_Islamic_scholars_on_Jihad
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=26125&ln=eng
http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=12128
“Acting as Allah's soldier for one night in a battlefield is superior to saying prayers at home for 2,000 years.” (from Ibn-e-Majah , vol.2, p.162)
Sahih Muslim, Book 20, Number 4636:
It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira who said: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) was asked: What deed could be an equivalent of Jihad in the way of Allah, the Almighty and Exalted? He answered: You do not have the strength to do that deed. The narrator said : They repeated the question twice or thrice. Every time he answered: You do not have the strength to do it. When the question was asked for the third time, he said: One who goes out for Jihad is like a person who keeps fasts, stands in prayer (constantly), (obeying) Allah's (behests contained in) the verses (of the Qur'an), and does not exhibit any lassitude in fasting and prayer until the Mujihid returns from Jihad in the way of Allah, the Exalted.
at September 1, 2007 12:30 PM
And "Final Solution" refers to a strategy for solving crossword puzzles. How could we have so misunderstood the true intentions of the Nazi regime?
Posted by: DrMack at September 1, 2007 12:31 PM
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/002362.php
From Andrew Bostom. Textbook Jihad
(This is taught to high school students in Egypt)
"Studies in Theology: Tradition and Morals, Grade 11, (2001) pp. 291-92 ...This noble [Qur'anic] Surah [Surat Muhammad]... deals with questions of which the most important are as follows: 'Encouraging the faithful to perform jihad in God's cause, to behead the infidels, take them prisoner, break their power, and make their souls humble - all that in a style which contains the highest examples of urging to fight. You see that in His words: "When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly. Then grant them their freedom or take a ransom from them, until war shall lay down its burdens.'"
"Commentary on the Surahs of Muhammad, Al-Fath, Al-Hujurat and Qaf, Grade 11, (2002) p. 9 …When you meet them in order to fight [them], do not be seized by compassion [towards them] but strike the[ir] necks powerfully.... Striking the neck means fighting, because killing a person is often done by striking off his head. Thus, it has become an expression for killing even if the fighter strikes him elsewhere. This expression contains a harshness and emphasis that are not found in the word "kill", because it describes killing in the ugliest manner, i.e., cutting the neck and making the organ - the head of the body - fly off [the body].' "
at September 1, 2007 12:36 PM
After distinguished Professor Karl Ernst's current designation (I think its Kiernan, but before that it was "Zachary Smith") runs out he will be the "Moe Howard distinguished professor" at UNC. Moe Howard was not an "Islamophobe" since he had no contact with Islam. So Professor Karl Ernst has nothing to be embarrassed about when he is designated "Karl Ernst, the Moe Howard Distinguished Professor Karl Ernst at UNC".
http://www.the3stooges.net/members/1234567/uploaded/Moe3.jpg
at September 1, 2007 12:37 PM
"Jihad is a propagandistic device which, as need be, resorts to armed struggle – two ingredients common to many ideological movements." (Maxime Rodinson. Muhammad. Random House, Inc., New York, 2002. p. 351.)
Posted by: Khaybar Oasis at September 1, 2007 12:45 PM
I think this is as good an area to post this since jihad is mentioned quite often... Mr. Spencer's new book 'Religion of Peace? Why Christianity is and islam isn't' is a great book for use as a reference.
It puts in very good ways to stop those Christian/Bible bashers in their tracks. It is the same as stopping the 'I hate Bush' people whose arguments consist of 'Bush lied people died', or Cheney, nazi, facists, Halliburton, etc. as using that as their argument without knowing one iota of anything about their one line/sentence. many don't even know the meaning of the words they spew let alone any history of them. But, to get back to what I am trying to say, he gives us reference to stop the bashers in their tracks.
This book is a missing link when taking on appeasers and yes - even muslims - in a cool, knowledgeable way.
Thanks Mr. Spencer. I need to tell you that I am only half way through and I am excited with what I have already read and am already recommending the book on other sites.
Posted by: R_not at September 1, 2007 12:46 PM
Tafsirs for Koran, 9:73.
Ibn Kathir 9:73.
“The Order for Jihad against the Disbelievers and Hypocrites
Allah commanded His Messenger to strive hard against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and to be harsh against them. Allah also commanded him to be merciful with the believers who followed him, informing him that the destination of the disbelievers and hypocrites is the Fire in the Hereafter. Ibn Mas`ud commented on Allah's statement,
(Strive hard against the disbelievers and the hypocrites) "With the hand, or at least have a stern face with them.'' Ibn `Abbas said, "Allah commanded the Prophet to fight the disbelievers with the sword, to strive against the hypocrites with the tongue and annulled lenient treatment of them.'' Ad-Dahhak commented, "Perform Jihad against the disbelievers with the sword and be harsh with the hypocrites with words, and this is the Jihad performed against them.'' Similar was said by Muqatil and Ar-Rabi`. Al-Hasan and Qatadah said, "Striving against them includes establishing the (Islamic Penal) Law of equality against them.'' In combining these statements, we could say that Allah causes punishment of the disbelievers and hypocrites with all of these methods in various conditions and situations, and Allah knows best.”
Al-Jalalayn 9:73.
"O Prophet, struggle against the disbelievers, with the sword, and the hypocrites, with words and [definitive] arguments, and be harsh with them, through rebuke and aversion [towards them]; for their abode will be Hell, an evil journey's end, [an evil] resort it is!"
Ibn Abbas 9:73
"(O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers) with the sword (and the hypocrites) with words! (Be harsh) be tough (with them) with both parties with words and actions. (Their ultimate abode is Hell) their destiny is Hell, (a hapless journey's end) they shall come to."
at September 1, 2007 12:51 PM
"1352. Abu Hurairah and Jabir (May Allah be pleased with them) reported: The Prophet (PBUH) said, "War is deception.''
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].
Commentary: "Khad`ah'' means deception, i.e., employing a strategy which causes misunderstanding to the enemy, and one's real intent does not become evident to them. This is permissible in Islam in the state of war."
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/hadeeth/riyad/11/book11.htm
Posted by: Khaybar Oasis at September 1, 2007 1:01 PM
I just figure the source. It comes from Michigan. There is a large group of Muslims there. Therefore pap like this comes from there.
Posted by: credit man at September 1, 2007 1:02 PM
As you hear this double speak explanation think of the frog in a pot of warm water on a stove with the heat slowly raising the temperature. Do you get it! Just another diversion to lull the public to sleep. Religion of any kind is OK because I went to church once and I remember hearing all this spiritual talk. They do the same thing when they worship right?
2 Tim 4:3
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but {wanting} to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,
2 تيم 4:3
لسيحين الوقت عندما لن يدوم عقيده سليمة ؛ ولكن يبغي لهم آذان مدغدغ ، سوف تتراكم لانفسهم معلمين وفقا لرغباتهم الخاصة بهم
at September 1, 2007 1:17 PM
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST THIS ANNOUNCEMENT AT OTHER WEBSITES
The U.S. Senate Project (an initiative to increase congressional awareness of the nature and goals of jihad) currently has 71 volunteers in 36 states.
WE ARE STILL SEEKING ADDITIONAL CITIZEN VOLUNTEERS FROM ALL 50 STATES, ESPECIALLY THE FOLLOWING 14:
Connecticut
Delaware
Hawaii
Kansas
Louisiana
Mississippi
Montana
North Dakota
Oklahoma
South Dakota
Utah
Vermont
West Virginia
Wyoming
The Project: We're looking for at least two people in every state of the Union who would be willing to purchase, from Amazon or any other source, a copy of Robert Spencer's Religion of Peace? Why Christianity Is and Islam Isn't and mail it, on an agreed upon date, to one of the senators in your state. We want to get the book simultaneously to all 100 senators, in order to send a strong message. If we get more than two people per state, books can also be sent to the U.S. House of Representatives.
If you’d like to be involved, please write to me at traehnam@yahoo.com under the subject heading “Senate,” and tell me the state your senator represents, an email address where I can reach you, and a nickname. No need for your real name. And I will never share your email address with anyone, not even with other volunteers for this project.
And visit www.jihadawareness.blogspot.com to get more info on this project and to leave comments other volunteers can read. You can also see there the growing list of participants in this project, and the states their senators represent. I've also designed a graphic that might amuse. Scroll down when you get to the site.
Once we have at least two people from every state, we can agree on a mailing date and then each of us can mail a copy of the book on that date.
Right before each of us mails the book, we can issue a press release to various media outlets in every state, and in that way announce and explain the mailing. And perhaps we can come up with some other ways of maximizing the effectiveness of this project and gaining as much positive attention as possible.
Congress is in recess until after Labor Day. But one of the project's volunteers suggested contacting Rep. Sue Myrick, who started the Anti-Jihad Caucus in Congress. I'll try to coordinate this project with Rep. Myrick to maximize its effectiveness. I've also been calling various congressional offices to get advice on how best to go about the project.
at September 1, 2007 1:29 PM
If it walks like a jihad, talks like a jihad and blows people up like a jihad.....................it must be a jihad.
Posted by: tanstaafl at September 1, 2007 1:31 PM
If a believer kills a believer during a jihad operation you can get back in Allah's good graces with a little blood money and/or by freeing a believing slave. (Qur'an 4.092). Since there can be no future revelation by means of another prophet does this mean that Allah foresaw blood money settlements and/or slavery for all time?
Posted by: Annar at September 1, 2007 2:07 PM
There are no ethics in Islam. To worship pedophilia and robbery and murder rules that out forthwith.
And, what exactly did the so-called Prophet actually prophesize? As I recall, something about the world coming to an end about 1050 AD?
Was that it?
In the names of Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, and Abraham and Moses and Isiaih to boot, I wish all of Islam would come to end.
A religion without a single saint, that's what Islam is. No good at all. Taxi drivers on cell phones. Talking their rotten talk until somebody, at long last, puts a stop to their rotten talk. What are they talking about?
My copy of the Koran is kept by my toilet. Such horrible rubbish, I can't even use its text for that vile task.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at September 1, 2007 2:13 PM
Hard to improve on Robert's response. Sambur obviously has not read the Qur'an, and he hardly knows his Prophet either.
Sambur represents the billions of wishful thinking & ignorant Muslims.
Posted by: champ at September 1, 2007 2:16 PM
champ-
"Sambur represents the billion[-] of wishful thinking and ignorant Muslims."
Or he is one of the advance guard of the disinformation Fifth Column cunningly using "jihad" in one of its many slippery, minor meanings to delude the naive into being too weak to resist the hard "struggle" to come.
"Jihad" is only of interest to the West when it turns violent.
And there's enough of that, daily, wo worry the world.
Posted by: profitsbeard at September 1, 2007 2:35 PM
Or he is one of the advance guard of the disinformation Fifth Column cunningly using "jihad" in one of its many slippery, minor meanings to delude the naive
I think the same. We believe, that we can argue with these islamic scholars like we used to do: with logical arguments. But it is of no use, because their purpose is not to get at arguable, logical results, but to bargain. If they make a concession like Sambur, it is either meant as a tactical device or a politeness towards us - like the muslims understand politeness. They have no problems with the real meaning of the jihad. It is only that they want to please their audience, so they say, what the audience expects.
at September 1, 2007 3:25 PM
Indeed Jihad IS inner struggle. One must wrestle constantly in one's soul to overcome basic humanity if you wish to glorify Allah by barbecuing childfren etc.
Posted by: poetcomic1 at September 1, 2007 3:29 PM
2:191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers
seeing how terrorists like bin Laden after9/11 have told us that they have declared jihad against the West pretty clear that in their alleged minds given the attacks they have pulled against the West and non-Muslim eastern countries that jihad to the terrorists that want a world Islamic kingdom with every non-Muslim paying jizha to Muslims that it is anything but spiritual struggle because they believe islam is fated to become the world's dominant religion
at September 1, 2007 4:04 PM
1349. Anas (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Prophet (PBUH) said, "Fight the polytheists with your wealth, lives and tongues.''
[Abu Dawud].
1350. An-Nu`man bin Muqarrin (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: I was with the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) when I witnessed that if he did not begin fighting in the early part of the day, he would postpone fighting till the sun had declined, the blowing of the breeze had blown and the victory from Allah had come.
1351. Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "Do not wish for an encounter with the enemy. Pray to Allah to grant you safety; (but) when you encounter them, show patience.''
1352. Abu Hurairah and Jabir (May Allah be pleased with them) reported: The Prophet (PBUH) said, "War is deception.''
and Moslems in the West and in the middle east have been doing a really good job of deceiving our leaders about what jihad really is
Posted by: mowasaperv
at September 1, 2007 4:31 PM
All of the posters above have made it abundantly clear - it is the nature of Islam and all that follow it that only total destruction of everything not in it's plan must take place. It needs to be kept pounded into the public's conscience that the reason for the bombings, beaheadings ad nauseam is BECAUSE IT'S WHAT THE KORAN DEMANDS OF THEM and NOTHING TO DO with "foreign policy, or we're just poor persecuted and misunderstood trying to follow our religion, if everybody would just leave us alone", blah. The motivation for their bloody-mindedness needs to be brought into focus, educating the public just what the Koran, hadiths suras, actually contain and that they are not simply harmless religious "scripture". That is, the obligations placed upon them by their damn murder manual.
Posted by: j_not_a at September 1, 2007 4:42 PM
profitsbeard --
"Or he is one of the advance guard of the disinformation Fifth Column cunningly using "jihad" in one of its many slippery, minor meanings to delude the naive into being too weak to resist the hard "struggle" to come."
EXACTLY! I almost called Sambur a liar, which is what I think your comment eludes to; but I didn't want to ruffle the feathers of those too sensitive to read such a blanket statement. So here goes....
Sambur is a liar!
Ahh -- I feel better now.
Posted by: champ at September 1, 2007 4:48 PM
Sambur-
The word "liar" is too short for such a threat.
We need something polysyllabic, that's more memorable ...and stings longer.
Mendaciously deceptive s.o.b.?
Mealy-mouthed prevaricating weasel?
Posted by: profitsbeard at September 1, 2007 5:33 PM
Can anyone tell me how to get a copy of the quote by komeini that hugh posted?
Posted by: old fogey at September 1, 2007 5:51 PM
Their 'internal struggle' jihad is 'death to us'. Why if Islam is such a 'religion of peace' we never see world wide peace rallies? Rather we get cartoon and pope riots instead, suicide bombings, 'death to America' rallies. Isn't that a bit strange? Where are their peacenik rallies? There are none! Rage Boy never attended one, I am sure... it's against his religion. There will be none!
Posted by: Battle_of_Tours at September 1, 2007 6:03 PM
Those are awesome, profitsbeard! Way more fitting than "liar", and I won't even attempt to top those :)
Posted by: champ at September 1, 2007 6:08 PM
What seems like is going on here is that for the first time in muslim history they are confronted way too often about their religion and in order to cover their 'moderate' status they are practicing what they always do - taqiyya/kithman.
They are hoping we are chosing ignorance of their ways, history, etc. They are hoping for a substantial number of high level appeasers that will fall for their disinformation, and they are hoping that - maybe - this will put a stop to us who know better as to what mohammed taught and practiced. mohammed told them that the violent jihad was indeed the most glorious of the jihads and that those who killed kafuurs for allah will reap the most benefits.
So, to all you muslims out there - I ain't biting your pathetic lies. Go tell your fellow jihadists who are murdering non-muslims all over this globe the meaning you want jihad to mean. And stop bothering us with this garbage!
Posted by: R_not at September 1, 2007 8:12 PM
Oh by the way - in addition to my previous post - I would like to add that their disinformation is just a way for them to continue to wage jihad against us as they are doing now. We are in a jihad right now that sped up after 9/11 - or at least it seems that way to me.
The ones that bother me the most are our own people who will gobble this disinformation up like hungry pigs.
Posted by: R_not at September 1, 2007 8:15 PM
I sent the posting to the acton institute for their perusal
info@acton.org
perhaps it will wake someone up to the real meaning of jihad and see the propoganda sambur is peddling
at September 1, 2007 9:58 PM
I sent the posting to the acton institute for their perusal
info@acton.org
perhaps it will wake someone up to the real meaning of jihad and see the propoganda sambur is peddling
at September 1, 2007 9:58 PM
Pervasive morality, don’t make me choke on my dinner. FGM, beheadings, slavery, kidnappings, rioting over the funnies, genocidal hatred of the Jews, subjugation of women, stealing, bilking the guvment/taxpayers of their idiot host countries and on and on ad infinitum. It sounds much more like systemic immorality to me.
Posted by: tgusa at September 1, 2007 11:08 PM
Here is an example of a piece he co-authored for his Malyasian audience:
Amini Amir Abdullah, Siti Zobidah Omar and Bilal Sambur (2006), ‘Islam as the natural religion (Din al-Fitrah) of Humankind’, Jurnal Yadim, Bil 8, Jun 2006, pp.21-33.
Basically, we are all born Muslims(Islam being the natural and true religion of all mankind) and either our parents screwed us up or we screwed ourselves up by not accepting this. Sambur believes that we are all good Muslims(people) who have just erred in our ways and when we become more "enlightened" we will return to Allah. He is actually proselytizing.
at September 1, 2007 11:42 PM
tgusa-
Right you are-
ISLAM: systematized immorality.
Posted by: profitsbeard at September 1, 2007 11:55 PM
Noble Qur'an:2:190 Footnote: "Jihad is holy fighting in Allah's Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah's Word is made superior (which means only Allah has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape from this duty, or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a hypocrite."
That's Imam Bukhari's idea of jihad. I am sure he got these wild ideas from somewhere. I wonder if ASambur has ever heard of Imam Bukhari?
Posted by: duh_swami at September 2, 2007 1:16 AM
Robert posted "the utility of being well-informed". And a wonderful utility it is indeed!
Thanks Robert and Hugh and the other posters for providing us all with this "utility".
My question would have been--Why is this pervasive perversion, oh excuse me, I meant to say "pervasive morality", as you said, translate into so many Muslims killing other Muslims?
Posted by: guide inside at September 2, 2007 2:41 AM
"Bilal Sambur says you should instead think of the term the way most of the world's billion Muslims understand it: a pervasive morality that governs daily life."
....they should think of tactical nuclear strikes as simple attitude adjustments to help Muslims understand pervasive morality......
Ban Muslim immigration...
at September 2, 2007 10:52 AM
"Allah will “restrain the fury of the unbelievers” (v. 84)."
...well, they do have the dhimmicrats convinced all is lost....
Posted by: exsgtbrown at September 2, 2007 2:16 PM
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