Does he remember JOhn Walker Lihd?

Posted by: Elric66 at September 3, 2007 8:43 AM

LOL, I'd like to know how Megahed's dad knows what's gone on in his family - for 400 YEARS!!!!

Reminds me of how al-Sadr wears a black turban signifying he's a descendent of Mohammed, LOL.

Posted by: darcy at September 3, 2007 8:46 AM

"It's killing me," Samir Megahed said Saturday. "We have no charge like this in my family for 400 years. It's killing all my family in Egypt."

Go back to Egypt then.

Posted by: Elric66 at September 3, 2007 8:47 AM

Elric - Could you please tell me how this man knows all of his "family" business for the past 400 years?

Posted by: darcy at September 3, 2007 8:51 AM

Darcy,

Maybe his family has been in the jihadist business for 400 years or Allah told him? :-)

Posted by: Elric66 at September 3, 2007 8:54 AM

Not a terrorist? Well maybe not yet, certainly the FBI and their prosecuting team will have to come up with additional evidence to show intent on the part of the suspects,and how they intended to use them. Witnesses,contacts,articles,writings,plans,Etc. They will get their day in court to prove their innocense. Transporting explosives requires a special certificate let alone the federal violation of crossing a state line which automatically makes it a federal case.

Posted by: Mackie at September 3, 2007 9:09 AM

Oh, people - this is SO FUNNY!

http://www.muhammaddressup.com/

Posted by: darcy at September 3, 2007 9:10 AM

I just want to know what he DOES know about what happened due to his family 400 years ago.

Posted by: Occupant at September 3, 2007 9:11 AM

darcy - That was beyond wonderful!

Posted by: Occupant at September 3, 2007 9:14 AM

I could spend hours on that darcy LOL

Posted by: Elric66 at September 3, 2007 9:16 AM

"Playing the victim card, and why not? It has worked so well in the past. But after awhile it all does begin to sound as if there is a playbook somewhere that these guys are reading out of".

You bet. Goebbels pulled this ethnic game off beautifully in the Sudetenland crisis of 1938 that led to Munich. The whole thing is based on Mein Kampf and Goebbels style propaganda. Savvy Muslims even copy the Goebbels-Mickey-Mouse-Disneyland-game with Farfur. The whole thing is scripted. Fibrahim Hooper does the "barrage of lies and slander" thing, along with the rest of the CAIP liar-propagandists. (Goebbels noted it is very important to position one's group as a "victim" (in the propaganda process)in order to whip up the "stupid masses" who will think a CAIP style response of lies, slander, intimidation, is a response to "aggression".

Hitler (from Mein Kampf) on the methods ("Spiritual terror") he learned in Vienna on how to silence critics: "I understood the infamous spiritual terror which this movement exerts, particularly on the bourgeoisie, which is neither morally nor mentally equal to such attacks; at a given sign it unleashes a veritable barrage of lies and slanders against whatever adversary seems most dangerous (JW, e.g.), until the nerves of the attacked persons break down (JW and others, e.g.) and, just to have peace again, they (the PC in media and govt) sacrifice the hated individua(s).

However, the fools obtain no peace.
The game begins again and is repeated over and over until fear of the mad dog results in suggestive (PC) paralysis.........Conversely, they praise every (PC) weakling ("Zacary Smith Distinguished proffessor Karl Ernst", e.g.?)on the opposing side, sometimes cautiously, sometimes loudly, depending on the real or supposed quality of his intelligence".

In regard to the "spiritual terror" tactics of Hitler (noted above), William Shirer (page 23, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich) said: "No more precise analysis of Nazi tactics, as Hitler was eventually to develop them, was ever written".

Posted by: Frank at September 3, 2007 9:18 AM

"If he was a white man and not from the Middle East, I'm sorry, he would not be here today," the father said. He said his son is not a terrorist and authorities "want the stories they have in mind. It's all in their imagination."

Koran + expolsives = Jihad. Koran + guns = John Muhammed + Lee Boyd Malvo = jihad. Koran + guns + shopping malls = jihad. Koran + anything + anyone = Jihad. Koran + nuclear weapons + nutballs hastening the return of the elusive mahdi = jihad. Koran + anyone + anything = jihad.

Koran = Jihad. They call is submission; we call it war by stealth.

White men can be terrorists = Timothy McVey and Terry Anderson. Shazzam Gahdan.

Six Degrees of Jihad anyone?

Posted by: BurkasforHitlery at September 3, 2007 9:19 AM

The fact that Mein Kampf is so popular in the Mideast is good reason to study the propaganda methods of Hitler and Goebbels. The "victim" game is an important part of their propaganda strategy. It was extraordinarily effective in the so-called Sudetenland crisis in 1938. (The Nazis even claimed the attack on Poland (9/1/1939) was a response to "Polish aggression".)

The victim game is part of the script.

Posted by: Frank at September 3, 2007 9:28 AM

"If he was a white man and not from the Middle East, I'm sorry, he would not be here today."
-- from the article above quoting the simultaneously self-pitying, and meretricious, Samir Megahed

And that is presumably why John Walker Lindh was never charged or sentenced -- he was a white man from Marin County. It is why Adam Gadahn is not being sought with the largest reward given for information leading to his arrest. It is why David Hicks was never in Guantanamo -- because he is white, and "not from the Middle East."

Let's rephrase it. If Samir Megahed's son had been a Christian (but not an islamochristian Arab) -- say, a Copt from that Egypt where "there has been no charge like this for 400 years" (no, if any Megahed observed or took part in attacks on Copts or, when they could still be found, the Jews -- in the mob violence, for example, that Hassan al-Banna used to whip up, any rampaging Megaheds among them would certainly not have been charged, would they?) or a Jew or a Mandaean or a Yazidi or a Zoroastrian "from the Middle East" -- "would not be [there in the courthouse] today." Because no Zoroastrian, no Yazii, no Mandaean, no Samaritan good or bad, no Jew, no Maronite and no Copt or other Christian (rather than "islamochristian") would be promoting the Jihad, would feel the need to fulfill the central duty of participating, in some way - in Jihad.

There. Now the statement has had its meaning attended to, and repaired -- and Mr. Megahed may use the new version, verbatim -- this week only for our post-Labor Day Sale, at no extra charge.

Posted by: Hugh at September 3, 2007 9:30 AM

What about the charges in Egypt? Were those upsetting to the family as well? Or was that the 'alleged' accomplice?

Posted by: CapitalistGig at September 3, 2007 9:33 AM

Hugh-

As Goebbels noted, propaganda does not have to be logical, truthful or even intelligent. It only has to be effective with the "stupid masses". An aggressive campaign of charges, accusations, name calling, slender, etc. will do their work by constant repetition.

Goebbels had total contempt for the intellect of the "stupid masses". One time he made a speech (the "Total War" speech after the Stalingrad defeat in 2/1943) in which he whipped his audience into a frenzy against the Allies and afterward said it was "such idiocy" and made fun of his audience saying that "if I told them to jump off the building they would have done that". (That quote is from memory-but it's close.) Propaganda is an appeal to emotion. The intellect is secondary in the matter.

There is a definite script these people are working from. The way to stop them is to expose the propaganda process so that folks see through it.

Posted by: Frank at September 3, 2007 9:57 AM

There they go again. Poor muslim mutants.

Posted by: Truthseeker at September 3, 2007 9:59 AM

Frank: CAIP? What's that?

I thought it was CAIR, the Council on Arab-Infidel Relations.

Posted by: Goob at September 3, 2007 10:08 AM

What about the charges in Egypt? Were those upsetting to the family as well? Or was that the 'alleged' accomplice?
Posted by: CapitalistGig at September 3, 2007 9:33 AM

Gig-

They know that. It's not about the truth with them. It's all propaganda meant to manipulate "the stupid masses".

Islam (because of its permissions to deception) has to be very corrosive to self-respect. In any case, the answer is to constantly repeat the truth: that they are propagandists and liars working from a script-that it is the Hitler method which Muslims have learned from Mein Kampf. Mein Kampf is a best seller in the Mideast.

Repeat the truth about the propaganda process until they don't know whether to crap or wind their Farfur wristwatches.

Posted by: Frank at September 3, 2007 10:17 AM

Concerning one of Frank's comments above, this is why we see right through the Mohammedans' propaganda and their playing the victim card --

We ain't stupid.

Posted by: darcy at September 3, 2007 10:21 AM

Oh my...this is hysterically funny. Listen up all you stand up comics and wannabes. There is some great material here.

Posted by: Rick at September 3, 2007 10:25 AM

Just pay attention: Anybody is allowed to be a "racist" but the white people.

Malaysia has this year started a 2-law-system: one for muslims, another one for nonmuslims.

In Sudan there are 2 different adoption-laws: one for muslims (they cannot be adopted from foreign citizens) and one for nonmuslims.

I have found some sites of carribean Countries that as for your race ask for the most normal thing in the world.

I don't mean to say that racism is something good. But it is so hypocritical to expect only from whites not to be racists,or not to discriminate while all the other practice it as the most normal thing.

Posted by: Kybeline at September 3, 2007 10:27 AM

Goob-

The Council on American Islamic Propaganda. Maybe we can call them "CAIR which is also known as CAIP"-the Council on American Islamic Propaganda like "the artist formerly known as Prince".

I hope the Dept. of Homeland Security is studying the propaganda methods being used because they are an important component of Jihad. My hunch is that it's much more organized than folks imagine.

Posted by: Frank at September 3, 2007 10:29 AM

Goob,

I thought CAIR was short for Council of Angry Islamic Radicals.

Posted by: Infidel at September 3, 2007 10:35 AM

Oh.. I thought CAIR was slowly evolving their name to CAIP then CRAP to reflect their true nature. (Council on Really Angry People)

Posted by: senor doeboy at September 3, 2007 10:35 AM

darcy-

The folks at JW are pretty smart. In fact, some of these folks are brilliant. The problem is that the general public is clueless about the propaganda campaigns of organizations like CAIR (which is also known as CAIP-the Council of American Islamic Propaganda) employ. They have to be constantly charged with the truth: they are propagandists and liars. The public has to wake up to the truth about CAIR, etc. (which is also known as CAIP-the Council of American Islamic Propaganda).

Posted by: Frank at September 3, 2007 10:39 AM

Right, Frank. Well from now on when I encounter some Mohammedan boo-hooing all over the place, I'm going to say, "Oh shut-up. You're not a victim." Whoa - that'll shake him to his sandals.

Posted by: darcy at September 3, 2007 10:52 AM

Great comment Robert. The most lethal explosive.

This is pure islamic whine, the kind that is manufactured and produced in great abundance.

The wine they are trying to sell us continually, that is not forbidden by the holey texts, and which the koran enjoins them to drink. The Jim Jones variety.

The 400 yr family tradition; is this is Sunni Arab islamic honour- to be invoked at the first sign of culpability ?

Posted by: dgene at September 3, 2007 10:57 AM

"If he was a white man and not from the Middle East, I'm sorry, he would not be here today," the father said.

If this is true then it only illustrates the effectiveness of mid-East profiling. Are we at war with vicious mainly mid-Eastern islamic terrorists out to kill us or are we playing cricket? An Arab of Persian would never try to play a race card with any other nation but a Western one. Only Western nations are noted for such naive sensitivities to be taken advantage of.

Keep up the good work SC Highway Patrol.

Posted by: FM at September 3, 2007 11:06 AM

I thought CAIR was short for Council of Angry Islamic Radicals.

Posted by: Infidel at September 3, 2007 10:35 AM

LOL. Thats is funny and true.

Posted by: Elric66 at September 3, 2007 11:07 AM

We should be so lucky that this would indeed kill these terrorists and their associates here and in Egypt.

Posted by: countywolf at September 3, 2007 11:36 AM

I guess the guys dad is just being a dad. It's the same as the old movies, where the crooks mother appears in court, and cries about her boy being a good boy, even if in reality he is a murderous thug.
Not only is the father playing the race card, he is also playing the supporting parent card. This will have no positive effect, except maybe, on the arrested son, who knows his father, at least, backs him up. He can take that to prison with him...

Posted by: duh_swami at September 3, 2007 11:49 AM

"'If he was a white man and not from the Middle East, I'm sorry, he would not be here today,' the father said."

I wonder how the reporter managed to keep a straight face when the man said this.

My understanding is that they were stopped for speeding or some such traffic violation. I'm sure the police officers couldn't guess the men's country of origin from inside the patrol car.

The officers' suspicions were raised when one of the men acted strangely and tried to hide a laptop computer.

And then, guess what?! The officers found explosives in the trunk. Who knows what was found on the computer. Somehow it was learned that one of the men has a history of making and promoting the use of illegal explosives.

But, yeah, it's all because the mean white cops (were they white?) don't like brown-skinned people from the Middle East. Makes sense to me.

(Give me a break.)

Posted by: Josephine at September 3, 2007 12:19 PM

And why were the two grinning like idiots in their mug shots?

Posted by: Josephine at September 3, 2007 12:21 PM

Why the big stink over the fact that whites are not committing as many crimes as some other groups? Jealousy? So we don’t tend to have a disproportionate number of criminals within our group big deal get over it. The constitution doesn’t tell us to convert or kill others into Americans or whites etc it doesn’t command us to commit crimes, quite the opposite in fact. People are in prison because they commit crimes and get caught not because they are red white blue green or any other color. Here is a hint, if you are in America and don’t want to get into trouble, follow the rules boneheads its real simple for some of us at least. If you don’t like what you are getting stop doing what you are doing. Oh, attention all white smearing numbskulls stop the propaganda! We are fed up with that bologna we are tired of being blamed for many others shortcomings/lack of planning or pathetic lifestyle choices, instead of pointing fingers at us why don’t they take a lesson and leave us generally law abiding whites alone in the process?

Posted by: tgusa at September 3, 2007 12:29 PM

Darcy,

Loved the site you referred us to. It was hysterical.

So this guy says:

"If he was a white man and not from the Middle East, I'm sorry, he would not be here today,"

No Daddy,

Your son could have been just what he is and what you are: a Muslim from the Middle East (there are many in this country) and he wouldn't be [in jail] today if he had not decided to transport explosives across state lines. His actions got him where he is today, not his ethnicity nor his religion.

Posted by: PMK at September 3, 2007 12:48 PM

In cases like this, it would send a powerful message to the powers behind these acts if the explosives "accidentally" exploded with the little jihadists still in the car...

A little follow up propaganda could reinforce the fact that we're tired of it.

Know a bad imam preaching hate? Headlines should read "Shitti Mosque destroyed last night when a homemade bomb being assembled there 'accidentally' exploded"

We can only beat them if we play by their rules...

Posted by: ItAintRight at September 3, 2007 1:15 PM

what is really killing them is that their son got caught by infidels

Posted by: mowasaperv at September 3, 2007 2:36 PM

Remember Zacharias Mousawi's mother? How pathetically she declared his innocence, that he was a 'scapegoat' that it was all about 'racism'- and hurled every false accusation in the playbook at US authorities, just like Mohammed Atta's father. And was it any different with the relatives of the London bombers, who were shocked, SHOCKED that these good ol' boys would do something like that, but could understand it, and later gave them martyrs funerals in Pukestan with 20.000 attendees...

Be sure there is a playbook, and they learned their roles well, very well. Its time to call their bluff!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at September 3, 2007 2:43 PM

"And why were the two grinning like idiots in their mug shots?"

Josephine,

I've been thinking about that, and I wonder if the photos used were not mugshots, but rather student I.D. photos. You're right--if those are mugshots, these two look entirely too happy.

And, Darcy,

That site is too much fun! LOL

Posted by: Abscedere at September 3, 2007 3:15 PM

"Megahed"! WOW! What a cool name to have. Well, perhaps not in prison... but, you know, outside of prison... hahahahaa

Posted by: Steve at September 3, 2007 4:17 PM

Lets see white and not from the middle east they wouldn't be up for terrorism charges?

Sounds reasonable because the chances would be overwhelming that they won't be muslims,who are the terrorists?

I'm kind of glad that they do keep playing the racism card becuase the more they do then the more people will see it for the tool it really is.Even by other than muslims.

One wonders how a white man is looked at in the middle east?Through crosshairs?

Islam is a joke and muslims are joke,losers and pathetic.Even in acts of war thier enemy has to do thier work for them.

The islamic army pertains to a bunch of idiots wearing womens dress carrying a bomb that kills handfulls of others and themselves,not even thier enemies soldiers.

Most if not all of the other worlds armies consist of men in uniform meeting in the field to fight it out like men.

Islam is the weakest mind body and spirit on this planet.Its power lies in that it holds over its women and children.No backbone to fight men and thats the strength of allah.

CAIR must really have its hands full these days in trying to prove its innocents while doing the same for all its bomb toting moron followers.

No rest for the wicked.

Posted by: Dar al-harb at September 3, 2007 5:54 PM

If he was a white man and not from the Middle East, I'm sorry, he would not be here today."

right. because the white man isnt running around trying to blow people up.

you make the point without trying....

Posted by: carmachu at September 3, 2007 6:41 PM

Abscedere -- You've got a point; maybe those are not their mug shots.

Here is a link to the indictment:

http://www.wcbd.com/midatlantic/cbd/news.apx.-content-articles-CBD-2007-08-31-0023.html

Posted by: Josephine at September 3, 2007 8:32 PM

"It's killing all my family in Egypt"

cool

Posted by: Crunchy Jello at September 3, 2007 11:02 PM

"It's killing me," Samir Megahed said Saturday. "We have no charge like this in my family for 400 years. It's killing all my family in Egypt."

Oh boo hoo hoo, how incredibly devastating! As for the race card/ victim ploy, they looked "white" to me. Maybe muslims should change their names when they come to the West; names are always a dead giveaway, much more so than race. There are entirely too many muhammads anyway. I hate that name.

I do hope the senior Megahed and his family in Egypt survive their personal tragedy. Since the ones who brought shame upon the family name are males, there will be no blood sacrifice available to cleanse the family honor, so I guess the Megahed family is doomed to eternal disgrace. How utterly lamentable is that?!
How can a bonafide jihadist/terrorist hide his beliefs from his own family?! Muslims up to no good can definitely keep a secret and act perfectly normal, which is cause for immense concern.
.

Posted by: Susanp at September 3, 2007 11:41 PM

Robert - they do have a "playbook" and coaching, provided by your local CAIR representative.
I thought these guys were here on student visas, why (how)is the father in the country?

Posted by: Mick_n_NYC at September 3, 2007 11:50 PM

Oh? racism?
Yeah, and since a bomb was in the car that makes us racist against the poor downtrodden bomb, too?
lol

islam is not a race...and bombs don't pick & choose who to murder...but those facts never stopped mOslems from lying their asses off yet like the punk's daddy did, and probably never will, either.

Posted by: jcom972 at September 4, 2007 6:07 AM

play that race/victim card on me, here's what you get:

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(translation: boo frickin' hoo. gave at the office. go away.)

Posted by: Miss_Anthrope at September 4, 2007 1:31 PM

Whoever raises a terrorist should suffer also. These two assholes need to ride a guillotine once .

Posted by: Hebrew Handyman at September 4, 2007 8:57 PM

Whoever raises a terrorist should suffer also. These two assholes need to ride a guillotine once .

Poor, innocent terrorist babies!!

Posted by: Hebrew Handyman at September 4, 2007 8:58 PM

I just tried to find out what CAIR is saying about all this now that we know it was more than "fireworks", and I am unable to find anything on their site now. I'm sure I saw something there before.

I also notice that have not been updating their site on a daily basis lately. Wonder what's up.

Posted by: Rucker at September 5, 2007 6:52 PM

also notice that have not been updating their site on a daily basis lately. Wonder what's up.

Posted by: Rucker at September 5, 2007 6:52 PM

Poor Dougie spends quite a bit of time in court these days, desperately trying to salvage what's left of CAIR's plunging reputation. But I'm sure the little kingdom in the desert will contribute a big wad of filthy wahabbi petro-cash to CAIR's legal fund, extracted from the coffers set aside to conquer America.

Top-notch Washington attorneys aren't cheap! CAIR and the Democrat Party use the same law firm; isn't that coincidental?

Posted by: Susanp at September 6, 2007 1:18 AM