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September 3, 2007

South Korea pays Taliban $20 million ransom, Taliban promises to kidnap, kill more foreigners

Terrorism pays.

"Taliban vows to kidnap, kill more foreigners," by Sayed Salahuddin for Reuters (thanks to JE):

AFGHANISTAN'S Taliban plan to abduct and kill more nationals from foreign countries whose troops serve under NATO and the US military in the country, a spokesman for the Islamic movement warned today.

The vow comes just days after the Taliban released 19 South Korean hostages after their Government struck a deal that critics said sets a dangerous precedent that could spur more kidnappings and make life even more dangerous for foreigners.

"We consider it (kidnapping) as an arm that can help us in imparting a blow to the enemy," Taliban spokesman Qari Mohammad Yousuf said by telephone from an undisclosed location.

"Kidnapping ... and killing of (nationals) of those countries who have come for the annihilation of the nation of Afghanistan, are works which suppress the enemy," he added.

Yousuf, one of two Taliban spokesmen, said the group would not target nationals from foreign countries who have no troops in Afghanistan.

Under the deal agreed last week, South Korea said it would pull its civilian nationals from Afghanistan by the end of August and withdraw its 200 troops working as doctors and engineers by the end of the year.

The troop pull-out was already planned.

The Taliban, for its part, dropped its central demand for the release of jailed insurgents.

A senior Taliban commander said on condition of anonymity at the weekend that the deal also included a ransom payment of more than $US20 million ($24.32 million), which would be used to buy weapons and fund suicide attacks.

Posted by Robert at September 3, 2007 8:50 AM
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Can a country or government be held responsible for supporting terrorism by paying a ransom to a terrorist group? Serious question

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 8:57 AM

Does anyone know how the payment was made? I have not been able to ascertain this.

Posted by: CapitalistGig [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 9:04 AM

Eric66,
With you on that one.

Posted by: alexb [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 9:05 AM

Sorry, Elric.
Would you happen to be Jamacain?

Posted by: alexb [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 9:10 AM

No Im not Alex. Pure bred American of German and English decent.

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 9:11 AM

Wonderful! Taliban spokesman Qari Mohammad Yousuf has marked himself for death. They can run but cannot hide out forever.

Posted by: Truthseeker [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 9:54 AM

Wonderful! Taliban spokesman Qari Mohammad Yousuf has marked himself for death. They can run but cannot hide out forever.

Posted by: Truthseeker [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 9:55 AM

Wonderful! Taliban spokesman Qari Mohammad Yousuf has marked himself for death. They can run but cannot hide out forever.

Posted by: Truthseeker [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 10:06 AM

Talidummies paid with "funny" money. Virus attached to porcine genome permeates the counterfeit cash, guaranteeing death while performing that which is haraam, and a journey to hell.

Posted by: twolaneflash [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 10:10 AM

South Korea has 200 troops working as engineers and doctors in Afghanistan, which will soon depart. We know what the Taliban thinks of human life (nothing) but one would think that the government in Kabul might raise a small objection, asking those troops to stay. After all, how many doctors and engineers is Afghanistan producing? However, I suspect that the departure of South Korean professionals is just fine with the official government too. They have a "Muslim-rules" sharia based government, signed off on by the US State Department, and are probably as happy as their Taliban brothers to see the South Korean infidels leave their pure Muslim land.

Posted by: maryrose [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 10:38 AM

Hope this is a lesson to all moronic church groups who think they can just go into foreign Muslim war zones and do good. These stupidly irresponsible Korean missionary types were warned by their government not to go (should have been prevented). They have rightly apologized for all the trouble and counterproductive concessions to Islamic terrorists their humiliated government had to performed to save their fool butts.

Posted by: FM [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 10:38 AM

twolaneflash-

"funny money"...

An easier, and already-available method of turning the ransom money into dust is to soak the bills in a slow-acting acid that reduces the currency to powder in a few days, making the cash as unspendable as Islam is irrational.

Let's hope the South Koreans (who were an early inventor of printing) know this trick.

Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 10:47 AM

How do these murderous thieves collect all that money, in a large suitcase, or a deposit in some obscure bank account? How would S Korea smuggle that kind of do-re-me into the country? If the money is smuggled into the country, is that not a crime in itself? Seems like everyone involved is guilty of a crime, except the Christian Missionaries who are just plain stupid, as FM above points out. The US should have something firm to say to S Korea over this...

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 11:25 AM

Foreign nationals traveling to Afghanistan, or any Islamic sharia country, should treat their Taliban-like militants like a disease against which they must safeguard themselves. The disease vector is Islam, and the islamic infection spreads like black-death plague from its source in the Arabian desert. In the 7th century, a delusional Mohammed heard voices to feed his appetite for power, so he raised a pagan god 'allah' to top position of power over all the other gods, declared all other gods illegal, and gave his 'alla's infected ones' rules controlling all aspects of their lives from praying to Mecca five times daily to how to wipe their buttocks after relieving themselves. Then through the caliphs the disease incubated to spread out from its source to cover the whole world for allah's repressive capricious whims. No one is safe from this disease.

Like other deadly infectious viruses, this disease has high mortality, where anyone in contact with it will either die or survive to carry it further. It spread successfully from Mid East crescent to Spain to Africa to India, now infecting China to southeast Asia to the Philippines, and once again demographically found its way into Europe and the Americas. To fight this disease is proving very costly, because the cure has not been found. Giving money to the diseased warriors of islam makes fighting this disease more strenuously expensive, since it empowers the disease vector. The human tragedy this world wide disease causes must be fought like AIDS, with education and condoms, to slow its spread demographically. Giving money to pay off the lepers who got it, understandable since the disease carriers use kidnappings, killings, beheadings, and extortion to spread fear, is not the optimum defense against it. Quarantine and prevention from exposure, world wide, is the better way to fight this until there is found a cure. Islam cannot cure itself, and it is impervious to outside anti-pathogens, as the Korean Christians kidnapping proved in Afghanistan, though this may work in less infected areas. More money should be spent on understanding this disease so to destroy it, not empower it to further spread. The young are especially susceptible to this infectious disease.

Posted by: Battle_of_Tours [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 11:58 AM

Dae han Minguk Mansei! (facetious)

Posted by: Kepha [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 1:15 PM

"The US should have something firm to say to S Korea over this..."

I'll bet it went something like:

"We advise against meeting the terrorist's demands but will leave that decision up to you. Whatever you decide, we will support as we appreciate your aid to military efforts in the region."

What can the U.S. say? Did we not set the precendent with Castro? Were not hundreds of POWs held back in Vietnam based on Castro’s advice that the U.S. would indeed buy back it’s prisoners? And where are they today? Policy schmolicy. Tough call but S. Korea could’ve shown more fortitude by not paying squat to terrorists but since they apparently DID, it’s on them and the shame should not fall to the captives but to the gov’t.

-XRDC

Posted by: XRDC [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 1:26 PM

XRDC...I agree that S Korea should not have crumbled. The terrorists are already bragging about using the money to buy weapons. Which is the reason the US gov should speak to S Korea about it.
Precedents set, but not in law, don't count in a war. Those additional weapons that will be used to Kill US/coalition troops, are a gift from S Korea.
If anything is said, it will be softly in a back room somewhere. The US gov gifted Hamas, and Fatah with lots of weapons for killing Israeli's or anyone that gets in their way. Iran is doing the same thing, and there are probably others, so S Korea at least made a deal with the devil to free captives. But in the end that tactic will only increase the likely-hood that the scenario will be repeated, over again'. A sheer money maker.

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 2:01 PM

South Korea has 200 troops working as engineers and doctors in Afghanistan
you can't have doctors after all they did not have doctors in their pedophile prophet time so chasing modern doctors out that might provide better health care must be Islamic because everything including your health is in the hands of allha right?:P

Posted by: mowasaperv [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 2:08 PM

Frankly, I'm not surprised. South Koreans have manifested timidity and bad judgement on previous occasions. For instance, look at the so-called Sunshine Policy which was appeasement pure and simple of North Korea. And let's not forget all those South Korean students who, on many occasions, have expressed their contempt for America in mass demonstrations, never mind that the chief reason they were free to do so is because of the American soldier. But for him, they'd be in some gulag under a brutal dictatorship.

Posted by: Wellington [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 3:27 PM

My first thought is to shut down the ablitiy to pay this money. I now I am naive but if you ask me I would give it a try.

If anyone in the government or in authority is reading this forum. Do it, you don't even need to tell us you stopped it although from a phycological POV it would be nice to hear that they got zip.

Matt 20:28
For even I, the Son of Man, came here not to be served but to serve others, and to give my life as a ransom for many.

مات 20:28
حتى انا ، ابن رجل اتى الى هنا لا يخدم بل لخدمة الآخرين ، وإعطاء حياتي كما فدية للكثيرين.

Posted by: Im.mad.as.HELL! [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 4:52 PM

When Viet Nam was going on and the S.Koreans were involved in doing some killing...they came back with heads and mortar tubes while others never even saw the enemy. What the hell happened? They were nuthin' but bad asses. Killing machines on a mission. A force to be feared.
Now they bow to the Taliban and promise to bug out of Afghanistan if they don't hurt anymore of their people. Not just this cowardly act, but they supply the enemy with money to carry out more terrorist acts. Pathetic. Their elders must be disgusted and ashamed of their governments lack of guts.

Posted by: Alaskan [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 6:26 PM

123

Posted by: Susanp [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 9:52 PM

123

Posted by: Susanp [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 9:54 PM

The reporter's only proof is that: "A senior Taliban commander said on condition of anonymity". And you accept this as fact.
C'mon, I know that the people here are too smart for that.

Posted by: Mick_n_NYC [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 11:23 PM

Read this story by the author written at the beginning of the Afghan War.

Posted by: Mick_n_NYC [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 3, 2007 11:36 PM

Mick...you are quite right, however there have been no denials so far and given the nature of the Jihadist Beasts, it is quite probable that money was involved.
In the meantime I apologize to the South Koreans for assuming that the ransom mentioned was paid. However, their lack of resolve in the face of a shared enemy is very unlike them and I am still wondering, where are the feared warriors of South Korea that must be willing and able to do what needs doing?

Posted by: Alaskan [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 3:26 AM

@ topic

Just goes to show...terrorists are like mice.

"...give the mouse a crumb, he's gonna want a cookie. Give the mouse the cookie, he'll want the glass of milk. Give him some milk, he'll want a whole meal..."...and on and on and on...it never ends when appeasing terrorists.

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 6:01 AM

It's ironic. They kidnap our Western people while we have plenty opf their people in our countries and we would like nothing better than simply be rid of them!

I say ship 'em all out!

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 8:13 PM

Whatever happened to our declaration to bomb terrorists, wherever they were in the world? I guess the Bushwacker pussied out on those promises. All this bullshit started because Jimmy Carter didn't have the guts to bomb the Mullahs back in 79 (? ). I'd have leveled a different city each day until our people were released. Reagan (?) bombed Kaddaffi and stopped his crap cold. That (force and retribution)is the only thing these animals will understand. We have to stop being nice and worrying too much about collateral damage. If your husband or dad is a terrorist, get ready to catch a bomb, or make him leave.

Posted by: Hebrew Handyman [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 8:52 PM

Whatever happened to our declaration to bomb terrorists, wherever they were in the world? I guess the Bushwacker pussied out on those promises. All this bullshit started because Jimmy Carter didn't have the guts to bomb the Mullahs back in 79 (? ). I'd have leveled a different city each day until our people were released. Reagan (?) bombed Kaddaffi and stopped his crap cold. That (force and retribution)is the only thing these animals will understand. We have to stop being nice and worrying too much about collateral damage. If your husband or dad is a terrorist, get ready to catch a bomb, or don't live near him.

Posted by: Hebrew Handyman [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 8:52 PM
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