So the fool that lost to the Taliban the first time around, now thinks he can now negotiate his way to a N.A.T.O. defeat?

What exactly is his governmental position? From my brief research he has no governmental authority at this time.

This is like the X-PM Chamberlain negotiating with the Third Reich after the Christmas Battle of the Bulge, claiming there will be no peace unless we compromise with the Militant Nazis.

Why don’t we just have the Uncovered Meat Mutfi of Australia open up surrender talks instead? His positions would be just about as useful.

Posted by: senor doeboy at September 3, 2007 12:25 PM

Your Tax Dollars at Work.

Posted by: Charles Bogle at September 3, 2007 12:27 PM

'Talk peace' with the Taliban is merely another form of 'surrender'. Don't talk to them. Kill them, starting at the top.

They never understand the terms 'truce' or 'peace' so do what needs to be done, until it is done.

Posted by: Battle_of_Tours at September 3, 2007 12:42 PM

Taliban-lite talks to Taliban heavy.

Posted by: profitsbeard at September 3, 2007 12:45 PM

Even Muslims can be dhimmis

Posted by: Elric66 at September 3, 2007 1:13 PM

Wheres the suprize there, not one country has taken the islamic or taliban threats seriously. We are inching closer to the outcome. Americans wouid be wise to prepare while you still can.

Posted by: AMartinez at September 3, 2007 1:16 PM

Karzai may be a whore - but he is no fool. He sees clearly how Musharraf has personally benefited from playing both sides of the terror game.

And why not? The Americans will probably give him even more now that he has made public the overture to the terrorists - instead of a bullet in the forehead.

Posted by: infidel! at September 3, 2007 1:37 PM

Look, the US/NATO doesn't want to spend the rest of this century hunting down every goat herder who gets his cookie by grabbing an AK and screaming Allah Akbar. It's just not practical. On the other hand, the Taliban (plus their friends in the Pak ISI, which created them) know they can't achieve victory, only pain for the Afganis. So, time to play let's make a deal.

We can assume that there is support for this from Washington, as they haven't made outraged noises about the idea. If the Taliban will make nice and play along for a while, why not? Are they any worse than most of the Pakistan and Saudi leadership?

If you want to make analogies with Nazis, go ahead. But first look up the life story of Werner von Braun, who developed the V2 rockets for Hitler to bomb civilians in England - a clear terror and non-military tactic - who later showed up as head of NASA - an American hero!

By the way, von Braun wrote a sugary autobiography called, "I Aimed for the Stars" which was a white wash of his life; one contemporary comedian said the title should have been "I Aimed for the Stars...but Hit London."

Posted by: ReligionofPeas at September 3, 2007 1:38 PM

ReligionofPeas-

LOL

Mort Sahl's sharp quip about Von Braun: "...but sometimes I Hit London".

Nazis should have been hung, not enthroned.

We had the father of modern rocketry in the U.S. (Goddard), and only needed to emphasize our own talent, not pimp for "rehabilitated" major terrorists.

The same should apply now.

Would Khalil Shiek Mohammad get a free pass and a cushy government job it he could help us in some short term plan?

Hang 'em.

We have the smarts to save our own assets.

Posted by: profitsbeard at September 3, 2007 1:44 PM

One thing that is not being noted with this story of Von Braun is the simple fact that the Nazis were emphatically crushed first.

CRUSH THE TALIBAN!!

Then we can talk about negotiate with the left over individuals wither it’s the gallows for War Crimes (using 6 year homicide Bombers fits this mark) or rehabilitation under the watchful eye of the Republic of Afghanistan.

(Please let us not argue about if it’s a Theological Republic, Islamic Republic. Let’s just accept the fact it’s currently not the nascent seed for the a new aggressive Caliphate with Nukes and Islamic “Smart” Bombs (AKA Homicide Bombers))

Posted by: senor doeboy at September 3, 2007 2:45 PM

How does one negotiate with an animal? Offer it meat? There is no negotiating with something that wants to kill you. You kill it before it kills you. Their animalistic intentions have been made clear and our response should be appropriate to that threat. I don't negotiate with the bear that charges me. I kill it.

Posted by: Alaskan at September 3, 2007 2:49 PM

ReligionofPeas: If you want to make analogies with Nazis, go ahead. But first look up the life story of Werner von Braun, who developed the V2 rockets for Hitler to bomb civilians in England - a clear terror and non-military tactic - who later showed up as head of NASA - an American hero!

Von Braun was an intellectual genius, absolutely no comparison whatsoever with the goat herder caravan raiders murderers of Afghanistan. Talk to them if you wish, but it's your head on a platter for believing anything these neanderthals say. Kill these subhuman slaves of allah until there are none.

Posted by: Battle_of_Tours at September 3, 2007 3:06 PM

Peace could be obtained if the warlords and savages were killed in a very UN-PC way....

When we start realizing that we are in a War and not a playground this could be over quickly, Russia and China have the right idea when it comes to dealing with terrorists or hostage takers. maybe it's time we act in a manor that would facilitate an end to this crap.

If we acted like we are now in WW2 we would all be speaking Japanese or German, thank god America had some nuts back then.

Posted by: Robert at September 3, 2007 3:18 PM

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Posted by: AMartinez at September 3, 2007 5:07 PM

Charles Bogle

We need one of the road signs up that says "Your Tax Dollars at Work" and with one of those hard hats.

Afganistan Rebuilding Project: Build it and they will come!

Iraq Rebuilding Project: The Tower of Babel is being rebuilt here!

Yep! Your tax dollars at work!

Posted by: greatcometof1577 at September 3, 2007 5:17 PM

Germania/Muhammadania:

'Art' in Germany:

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/09/03/art-in-germany-maniacal-mannequins/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at September 3, 2007 5:27 PM

I was never an isolationist, but I'm fast becomming one.

Posted by: rational at September 3, 2007 5:39 PM

US and Al-Qaeda working together? Taliban too?
Look what these loons are saying.

http://www2.irna.com/en/news/view/line-22/0708303990193440.htm
Brian

Posted by: J. Brian at September 3, 2007 6:28 PM

I have never been an isolationist, either. But I am starting to wonder what the US needs with the rest of the world. This country, my neighborhood, both are being flooded with people who are here to take, not assimilate. Their countries are rotten, and now they're here to make mine rotten. The schools have to be bi-lingual, celebrate ramadan, have police there--this country is really slipping.

And now we need to have dialogue with terrorists? The only dialogue I'd agree with is this: invite them all to the UN, lock the door, and turn on the gas.

Posted by: CapitalistGig at September 3, 2007 8:51 PM

Mushi & Karzai, both in the same camp when it comes to screwing the infidels out of the jiziyah...

Wouldn't surprise me if both (along with their extended family clan's) end up in the US after the Islamic troglodytes take over in their respective countries and they have to make a run for it...

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/09/04/kurnaz-and-the-al-qaeda-torture-claims/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at September 4, 2007 12:10 AM

I heard that if we destroyed (pick a method, napalm?) the bright red poppy crops which are the financial income for the taliban, we would cripple them. Frank Zappa,God rest his soul, suggested using 'pork grenades' against these people. Is there some reason the simple and obvious ideas are not used? Perhaps the will of our government is NOT to defeat our enemies. Can the government be prosecuted for TREASON against the people? Come on now, simpleness is usually good. Let's try some of the simple ideas. When the poppies are in bloom they are an easy target. Wipe out the poppy fields and let loose a bunch of pigs throughout the muslim world. Arm our soldiers also with water guns full of pig piss.

Posted by: volsella at September 4, 2007 12:13 AM

Karzai probably just wants to remind the rich Taliban, what Mohammad said about splitting the loot. Four fifths for me and one fifth for you, or something like that...Loot is a hot commodity in Islam, it's good and it's lawful...

Posted by: duh_swami at September 4, 2007 12:29 AM

Karzai would do well to remember what happened
to Najib(ullah).

Posted by: whatdafuq at September 4, 2007 1:31 AM

lol@ topic

First rule when dealing with the devil:
DON'T

Posted by: jcom972 at September 4, 2007 5:57 AM

you do not negotiate with a rabid dog-you kill it.
if you have to throw it a bone to entice it near enough for you to do so-then so be it.
how and where you throw the bone is the difficult part -but its possible-just let our airforce know where and when and i'm sure we can take care of business.

Posted by: victor at September 4, 2007 8:45 AM

A shotgun works a lot faster on rabid dogs, but...ok, air force works, too...lol
That reminds me of a big hit not long ago...still sung today by the USAF:

http://www.lilesnet.com/patriotic/September112001/Humor/DayO.mp3

Works for me...LOL
:-D

Posted by: jcom972 at September 5, 2007 4:36 AM

When I was in college, I took a philosophy course where the professor started bashing religion especially christiany. I challenged him with the idea that , if it makes people feel good and live properly, what's the probably. We went back and forth for a while. After the class, he told me that he would give me a passing grade if a didn't come back.

Posted by: old fogey at September 6, 2007 6:05 PM