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September 4, 2007

Fear and loathing in New York: Taxi union says GPS targets Muslims

If they know where the taxis are, they must be trying to throw innocent Muslims into prison -- got it? And some say that drivers who have refused to strike have been threatened.

Conspiracy Paranoia Alert: "Taxi 'Fear' Hike," by Jeremy Olshan for the New York Post (thanks to JC):

September 4, 2007 -- Fear and paranoia are driving the taxi strike planned for tomorrow and Thursday, industry sources said yesterday.

The global-positioning systems being installed in all 13,000 cabs will be used to target and spy on Muslims, according to pro-strike literature being distributed by members of the New York Taxi Workers Alliance, the group behind the two-day walkout.

"This is where deep racial, ethnic and religious prejudices and biases come into play," one flier reads. "DNA samples are obtained, scrutinized and archived. Personal and family histories are scoured for evidence of ethnic and religious fervor. Clearly, surveillance technology can be a death sentence once you are in its crosshairs."

Taxi and Limousine Commission officials say the city has no such sinister motives. The GPS will be used to automate the paper trip sheets each driver has to keep, and will transmit only the start and end location of each fare, officials said.

The new technology system, which will also allow for credit-card payments, was approved in 2004 as part of the same deal that gave drivers a 26 percent fare hike.

It's unclear how many drivers are represented by the Taxi Workers Alliance, which claims 8,000 members - roughly one fifth of the total cabby workforce. But even those who disagree with the group may choose to stay home, sources say, because threats have been made against drivers who pick up passengers rather than strike.

"We are extremely disappointed to hear that that kind of fear mongering is taking place," TLC spokesman Allan Fromberg said. "No one should be operating in that kind of environment."

Posted by Robert at September 4, 2007 2:37 PM
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The jihad will never end

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 2:44 PM

Why is everything about them? What are they afraid of? I hope they decide to strike, and get replaced by Puerto Ricans.

Oh, that's right. Rudy is not mayor anymore. Now, in addition to public smoking and trans-fat scandals, Mayor Bloomberg is going to have to worry about this.

Posted by: CapitalistGig [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 2:53 PM

Threats of physical harm perpetrated against non-striking workers are as old as the union movement. This is not new, and has nothing to do with someone's religion.

Posted by: Pelayo [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 2:55 PM

Methinks they doth protest too much.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 2:56 PM

Oh please now days they GPS tracking in garbage trucks too, big deal, they need to know where thier vehicles are .

Posted by: CaptainGrevious [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 3:03 PM

I hope these paranoids are right. Someone needs to be tracking and spying on Muslims in this country.

Posted by: teachingmyown [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 3:09 PM

Since they want to bring us all back to 7th century Arabian conditions, and of course they love to live by Muhammad's example...maybe they can instead provide Camel rides which do not need GPS.

They will need a excrement bag though, but I'm sure they'll find a way to stop those from being installed as being un-Islamic somehow.

Posted by: HardBody [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 3:10 PM

"We do not want GPS in our taxis, because then they'd know we're transporting those explosives for detonation!"

Boo-Frickin'-Hoo.

Posted by: Miss_Anthrope [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 3:27 PM

Now if he is talking about GPS guided bombs, well...........

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 3:28 PM

It creeps me out ridingd with these guys. When in NYC, I try to stick to the subway. Most of the cabbies I've had to deal with have been bad news.

Posted by: MP [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 3:29 PM

I hope someone has a plan to target jihad cells on cruise-ships and convenience stores as well

Posted by: KAOSKTRL [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 3:45 PM

If the NYC Muslim cabbies are anything like the Muslim cabbies that are starting to populate Los Angeles county cab outfits they ought to walk and never come back.

Most of them are the best advertisments for ending Muslim immigration there is. They are thuggish, radiate hostility, rude and are uncommuniative.

And if they like this with us infidels now imagine what it would be if they had the upper hand.


Posted by: waltc [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 3:50 PM

"This is where deep racial, ethnic and religious prejudices and biases come into play," one flier reads. "DNA samples are obtained, scrutinized and archived. Personal and family histories are scoured for evidence of ethnic and religious fervor. Clearly, surveillance technology can be a death sentence once you are in its crosshairs."


What horsehit!

Cheats and terrorists are the only people threatened by this.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 3:51 PM

Install the tracking systems. Tell the Muslim cabbies if they don't like it - find other work.

On a different note - I get a newsletter from the president of a foreign currency investment company.

These were his comments on Friday August 31-

Ok... There are some rumors going round (I promise I won't go into a song here)that there are a ton, and I mean a ton of options making a statement... $4.5 billion options bet on catastrophe within four weeks... OK I'M NOT SAYING I KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE! I'm simply reporting a rumor in the markets... The theories on this are really out there...

end of comment...

So folks, if this is going around the markets, maybe something big is getting ready to happen. Just thought I'd pass this along to my friends here at Jihad Watch.

Posted by: The Goobs [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 3:55 PM

Welcome to the new world order where absolutely everything insults muslims whether it has anything to do with them or not. If they were to truly assimilate, these types of problems would be minor. Not the case though.

Alas, no, Muslims cannot keep religion as a private matter. It must be made public at every opportunity. Sand paper jihad.

Overall, the west is so very tolerant, however, the intolerant will harass the tolerant from now till the end of days, it seems.

Posted by: sounder [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 3:56 PM


Do a google search on:

4.5 billion options bet on catastrophe within four weeks.

Interesting reading.

Posted by: The Goobs [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 3:57 PM

If the NYC Muslim cabbies are anything like the Muslim cabbies that are starting to populate Los Angeles county cab outfits they ought to walk and never come back.

Most of them are the best advertisments for ending Muslim immigration there is. They are thuggish, radiate hostility, rude and are uncommuniative.
--from waltc


I was in Salt Lake City some time ago. The Somali cab driver was reading the Koran. A more sullen,"hostility-radiating" bastard you would be hard-pressed to find. Outside of telling him where we were going, there was not a word of friendly chatter.

These muhammadans have nothing to offer this country but hostility, violence, intimidation. Why let them in? Do we owe them something?????????

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 4:00 PM

It is unfortunate that they are using the platform of supposed Muslim bias to fight GPS implementation. It will be interesting the see the livery activity in the streets tomorrow.

New York Taxi Workers Alliance is a council of "diverse" people, lead by Bhairavi Desai.

see below:

http://www.fcny.org/scripts/usq/getpage02.pl?orgid=9905

Notice the picture behind her, displaying taxis as shackled by both City Hall and the NYPD.

More on Desai below:

http://leadershipforchange.org/awardees/awardee.php3?ID=307

"NYTWA’s 12-member Organizing Committee, with its Bengali, Urdu, Punjabi, Hindi, French, Creole, Amharic, Spanish, and Arabic-speaking representatives, is a testament to her conviction."

The identities of all these organizing committee members would be helpful, but I was unable to ascertain that information.

It appears they are involved in and support other popular lofty activist goals like troop withdrawal from Iraq:

http://www.troopsoutnow.org/m19/endorsers.html

And here, speaking of the plight of Muslim cab drivers after 9/11

"As an estimated 60 per cent of New York taxi drivers are South Asian, and represent the largest concentration of Muslim workers probably anywhere in the country, they were bound to feel the brunt of the anti-Muslim feeling that prevailed after September 11."

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/mag/2002/05/19/stories/2002051900260300.htm


Curious indeed, that this would be seen as a threat to Muslims based solely on their religious affiliation, ignoring the positives experienced by patrons and even the hacks themselves. Last time I checked, being a NYC hack was far from being the safest profession in the City.

Posted by: awake [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 4:02 PM

Just out of interest, do they use cabs for running drugs in NYC? They do in most every other major city because the cabs are so ubiquitous they tend to be able to circulate more or less un-noticed. I suspect terrorist muslims will just use a "phantom fare" for their activities. After all, a few bucks to deliver a bomb is nothing to them. But lots of cruising time spent in specific areas of town would tend to show up.
Having said that, I reckon they should go ahead with the tracking system. The cabbies accepted it when they took the money up front.

Posted by: Monty [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 4:03 PM

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Posted by: traeh [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 4:08 PM

This GPS deal should be offensive -- to the non-Muslim taxi drivers. I mean, if NYC is only doing this to monitor the Muslim drivers, they should only require GPS in the Muslim-driven cabs, and the Muslim drivers should have to pay for the GPS and installation. Plus, they should be made to have some kind of amusing haircut.

Oh yeah, also, NYC should charge Muslims double for their drivers' licenses, and when they pay for their licenses the DMV guy should grab them by the beard and slap their faces three times. And any cab company that hires Muslim drivers should pay a surcharge for each one, which surcharge would be remitted to the Christian Children's Fund.

And while we're at it, cabs driven by Muslims should all have pink hexagrams on their hoods and fly big green flags with Porky Pig's face on them from their antenas to ID them as Muslims, so that we could avoid them. And in a taxi line, Christian drivers go the the front.

Furthermore, the name of Mohammed should be on all the floor mats of NYC cabs. And all cabs driven by Muslims should be required to make liquor deliveries for people who can't drive because their licenses were suspended for DUI. And Muslim drivers should be forced to charge half-fare for people taking their dogs to be groomed.

And Armenians ride for free.

Posted by: ChristianRepublic [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 4:19 PM

@Goobs

Leftoid conspiracy crap!

Show me the options
Which options
What company

The markets up 91 points today.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 4:19 PM

Angry Muslim threatens me. Read the bottom comments


http://tariqnelson.com/2007/08/30/a-good-question-2/#comment-21618

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 4:20 PM

Angry Muslim threatens me. Read the bottom comments


http://tariqnelson.com/2007/08/30/a-good-question-2/#comment-21618

Posted by: Elric66 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 4:23 PM

HAH...this is too funny.Boo Hoo ,whah,whah.Muslims lost thier pacifiers again.

I think a new scientific approach should be taken where muslims are tracked and tagged for monitoring,much like we do animals.

(Islam is islam......animals are animals)

All i have to say is they should thank allah i am not in charge because they would be running for the boarder trying to get out.The only time the border gates will be opened wide.


The jihad (inner struggle) goes on.

Screw 'em....screw 'em all.Muslim opinion be damned (TROP)

Posted by: Dar al-harb [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 4:39 PM

“Alas, no, Muslims cannot keep religion as a private matter. It must be made public at every opportunity.”

Sadly this is the very argument that Christianity repeats quite often when the citizens of our nation oppose the public use of the word go, prayer at graduations, invoking god or prayer in Congress, et. al.

As a citizen of the U.S. I respect the rights of those who wish to have religion, enjoy it. However, the same issues that our nation is having with allowing the Muslim religion to hijack our Constitution are the same issues that Christianity has been attempting for decades.

This is why NO religion should be recognized nor given special privilege. Nevertheless, the shortsighted of our society refuse to see the comparison because they think that since they’re not running around with bombs strapped to themselves they aren’t a threat to freedom and democracy.

Once more it just proves that you can’t have a reasonable discussion with a person of “faith” because the word itself requires the suspension of all reason and logic in order to believe.

The City of New York has every right to know where it's subcontractors are at any given time if they are managing their operation properly. We'd be outraged if we knew that transgressions were happening and the city did nothing. Now they are; if you don't like the new rules/laws, then find another job.

Posted by: scooternyc [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 4:47 PM

Apologies, that statement was:

"the public use of the word god" not go. LOL!

Posted by: scooternyc [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 4:49 PM

"Conspiracy Paranoia Alert"

Wow, no kidding. It's all about them and their "victimization".

Give me a break! It's a business decision that has nothing whatsoever to do with religion.

If they've got nothing to hide, what are they so afraid of?

This reminds me of Jim Jones & his followers in Guyana. He constantly harangued them with stories about how the rest of the world wanted to kill and destroy them. He was paranoid and he instilled paranoia in them.

There is a reason why some Muslims want other Muslims to be paranoid and to believe that all non-Muslims are out to get them: it furthers their cause.

Posted by: Josephine [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 4:52 PM

They have GPS on many Semi Truck cab and trailers. As far as I'm aware of most drivers view it as an asset to help them be efficient in their routing. Private drivers of passenger vehicles pay hundreds of dollars for this service. This leaves only one question, "Why would they object to this free service and a pay raise?"

The thread of thought that follows this question becomes even more disturbing when they themselves use the ethnic/race/religion card to object.

Simple fact, anyone that doesn't have a doctor’s note or a funeral pamphlet for a death of a friend or family member for an absence on this strike day, should lose their hack license and have a life long ban, no ifs ands or buts.

Posted by: senor doeboy [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 4:59 PM

"Once more it just proves that you can’t have a reasonable discussion with a person of 'faith' because the word itself requires the suspension of all reason and logic in order to believe."
Posted by: scooternyc

It depends on what you're discussing. If you're an atheist and someone is trying to explain his faith to you, I can understand your point.

I'm a "person of faith" and I have reasonable discussions all the time. I talk about politics, the weather, my hobbies, TV shows, etc., all quite reasonably. I'm quite good at using reason and logic (not to pat myself on the back or toot my own horn, which would be very unCanadian of me).

"...the shortsighted of our society refuse to see the comparison because they think that since they’re not running around with bombs strapped to themselves they aren’t a threat to freedom and democracy." Posted by: scooternyc

Is the old canard about fundamentalist Christians being just as dangerous as fundamentalist Muslims? That's not going to fly here, Scooter.

Posted by: Josephine [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 4:59 PM

Remember the good old days when the bobbies, Britain's police constables, did their rounds without carrying guns? It cannot honestly be denied that the behaviour of an ever-increasing number of young Pakistanis has contributed decisively to the sad discarding of this glorious tradition.

Anwar Shaikh: Islam & Terrorism , Cardiff 2004, to be ordered from Principality Publishers, PO Box 918, Penarth Road, Cardiff, UK.
======
Remember the good old days when you didn't have to remove your shoes and belt and cosmetics before boarding a plane?

Remmber the good old days when you didn't have to wonder if the taxi driver carrying you was also "religious" lunatic with murderous intent?

Yea, the good old days. Before the muhammadans started ruining everything. But then, the blood always flows where the muhammadan goes.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 5:03 PM

"Someday a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets."

Travis Bickle - Taxi Driver

Posted by: Charles Bogle [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 5:28 PM

Josephine,

Thanks for your post responding to my own.

When speaking about religion there is no reason or logic as the concept of religion and god are simply imaginary at best. While you may wish to take exception with this comment, the reality is that there is nothing to substantiate such fantastical claims.

That aside, yes, fundamentalism in any form is not from a person of a well-adjusted mind set, regardless of the religion.

You can espouse all you wish that the comparison doesn't fly but anyone who furthers religiosity within our nation as a foundation for our values and morals is just as dangerous as the jihad that's wants us all to convert, subjugate or die.

Posted by: scooternyc [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 5:32 PM

Josephine wrote (regarding scooternyc):

"Is the old canard about fundamentalist Christians being just as dangerous as fundamentalist Muslims? That's not going to fly here, Scooter."

Usually he refers to Christian fundamentalists as the bigger threat.

There is no value in trying to appeal to his closed mind. Ethics and morality is what separates us from the natural animal world, who operate strictly on instinct.

scooternyc never misses an opportunity to display his illogical thinking, of religious moral equivalency between Christianity and Islam, to put forth his atheist principles.

Hugh is an atheist, I believe, but he does not fall into the same mental trap as scooternyc always seems to do.

Posted by: awake [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 5:34 PM

Maybe they should stop emulating Hunter S Thompson, especially whatever they're "dropping" for that delusional trip of theirs.
What's next?

"WHAT? NO! WE CAN'T STOP HERE...IT'S BAT COUNTRY!"

lol

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 5:59 PM

@Ynkedoodl2

Just read his later response:

Dan Perper, a Partner at Peak 6, one of the largest option market makers and proprietary trading firms, has confirmed that the trades are part of a "box-spread trade." OK… Now that we've put that one to bed… Just what is a "box-spread trade"? To put it simply, and there's nothing simple about these trades, it's a way to lock in a means of financing.

End

Still, Ynke...who on earth is taking that kind of risk? According to this Dan Perper, it is legitimate. Seems strange if it is legitimate.

Help me understand how this is a leftist conspiracy. I'm interested. It didn't occur to me that this might be some kind of conspiracy. It just seemed strange given that the stock market was manipulated prior to 911.

Posted by: The Goobs [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 5:59 PM

Oh more whining and hand wringing to start the week. I swear that CAIR or someone scours the papers or the internet for things to scream racism, victimization or discrimination about on a daily basis. I'm so weary of it all. If it's so awful to live in the USA why don't they leave? Oh yeah, it's better than the place they came from, just not Islamic (yet....)

I did love the funny haircut comment :o) nice visual, lol.

Posted by: gymgal [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 6:21 PM

scooternyc -- Thanks for the clarification. We can agree to disagree. ; )

awake -- Thank you.

Posted by: Josephine [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 6:35 PM

Elric66,

You're raising hell all over the place, aren't you?

Posted by: mrockroll1969 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 6:39 PM

Apparently, scooter,
ya forget one thing...to assume that about "religiosity" is to also damn the Founding Fathers as well, thus the basis on America. Freedom of religious expression was tantamount to why this country was founded, primarily, and more than any other reason...not for it to rule everything, but to freely express it without being hunted down and killed by those wishing to quash it for whatever reason...so the dismissing of religion against the backdrop of America as if it had nothing to do with it won't fare well.

As Ron White said it most eloquently:
"I don't think so, scooter."

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 6:43 PM

his is where deep racial, ethnic and religious prejudices and biases come into play," one flier reads. "DNA samples are obtained, scrutinized and archived. Personal and family histories are scoured for evidence of ethnic and religious fervor. Clearly, surveillance technology can be a death sentence once you are in its crosshairs."

They left out the part where moslem drivers would be singled out and pork hide optical rectum scanners would be inserted to see if what they had for lunch was halal.

Probably because that was the imam's idea.

Posted by: infidel! [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 6:47 PM

I'm waiting for a few taxi services to get sued for the pushy preaching that some have been known to do. I've talked with a number of people who asked to be let out when the muslim taxi person got all wierd on them because they wouldn't accept allah.

Something isn't right about that.

Posted by: Highrise [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 6:54 PM

Nothing for you to worry about Mohammed...unless you're quilty.

Posted by: PajammaWatch [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 7:03 PM

Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster. I'm a huge fan of Robert Spencer's and hope that he gets more creative in the future educating people about the drawbacks of Islam in a multicultural society.

On this, I'll just comment that they should all be concerned about cell phones now too since they can triangulate and find out where they are. It can't be racist since lots of other industries use such tracking devices such as FedEx, UPS, USPS, and most trucking companies.

It's only racist because most of the taxi drivers are muslim. If they weren't muslim this would still be proper procedure, they just wouldn't have a claim to 'racism'.

I look forward to commenting on these issues, and thank you Mr. Spencer.

Posted by: ThackerAgency [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 7:35 PM

Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster. I'm a huge fan of Robert Spencer's and hope that he gets more creative in the future educating people about the drawbacks of Islam in a multicultural society.

On this, I'll just comment that they should all be concerned about cell phones now too since they can triangulate and find out where they are. It can't be racist since lots of other industries use such tracking devices such as FedEx, UPS, USPS, and most trucking companies.

It's only racist because most of the taxi drivers are muslim. If they weren't muslim this would still be proper procedure, they just wouldn't have a claim to 'racism'.

I look forward to commenting on these issues, and thank you Mr. Spencer.

Posted by: ThackerAgency [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 7:37 PM

You've heard of "compassion fatigue", when an individual gets bombarded with so many tales of tragedy and woe (and corresponding requests for the healing balm of moolah) that he no longer cares what the current crisis in the world is?

Well, I'm starting to be afflicted with "Muslims as tragic victims of Western hostility" fatigue. No, wait, I'm beyond "starting". I am so G-D sick and tired of the over-publicized, well-orchestrated whimpers, whines, and moans of these poor misunderstood sons of Ishmael who, alone in the world, are expected to follow the rules their employers establish to keep their businesses functioning. Who, alone in the world, expect their neighbors, employers, and governments to refrain from holding them accountable for their actions. Who want everything to be like it was (or like they DREAM it was) back in their glorious Islamic homelands. I tell ya, now I'm a victim, too! These people need to take MY sensibilities into account and just shut up: I'm a victim of Islamo-fatigue!

Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 7:43 PM

Welcome, Thack`,
Oh,
By the way, typekey is slow, so ya don't have to click "post" twice...
Tell ya what...just hit post once, if after 30 seconds it doesn't move (ya don't even have to wait that long anyway, lol), just scroll up top, click the red/white jihadwatch logo, go back to the thread, and you'll see it's already been posted.

Just some bugs needing worked out is all.
Go ahead & jump on in.

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 7:48 PM

Josephine -

East coast, west coast, or in between? I'm in Nova Scotia.....a wonderful place where muslims are still quite scarce.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 7:59 PM

If they can't stand the rules, go back to Mecca.

None of the camels have GPS's.

Personally, I don't like the idea in non-business use, unless you pay for it specifically in your vehicle, because these devices erode our privacy.

If they are ever suggested to be mandatory in modern passenger vehicles, I'll buy a "classic/antique" car.

The government is nosy enough.

And should be securing our borders, countering Chinese and Russian cyber-attacks, undermining the Iran nuke program, developing plan to confiscate Pakistan's atom bombs in the event of a crisis, establishing a Manhattan Program for Energy Independence and a thousand other more vital things, first, before wondering where its free citizens are.


Posted by: profitsbeard [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 8:02 PM

ImNoDhimmi,
Ah, yes...New Scotland!
A definite plus in my book!
^5s

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 8:07 PM

psst ... don't tell them about GPS-like tracking ability of all cell phones and systems as well as soon (if not already) via any computer on the internet

Posted by: TINBH [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 8:09 PM

@scooternyc

I find that Secular Humanist Atheism to be just as much a religion. It has a creation theory (Big Bang Theory, that’s what they were last calling it). A story for how and why of the human condition (Darwin’s Theory of Evolution). A story about the Armageddon (The sun turning reddish in hue, then growing in size to swallow the earth followed by going super nova). Over all a rather Nihilist view, nothing wrong with it.

But it also has its share of virulent fundamentalist zealots wanting to impose their worldview. A quick example would be Michael Newdow of California and his perpetual legal lawsuits to force the public square to conform to his Secular Humanist Atheist vision.

His form of religiosity is not much different from the fundamentalist of other recognized religions. Religions that Amanpour and her likes attempt to paint as being like the Global Jihadist that strap bombs to 6 year children.

Some how I just can’t make this connection between those that teach for morals and a divine reason for them and those that blow up pizzerias full of teenagers.

But I can connect Michael Newdows zealot’s quest to impose his Secular Humanist Atheism on society to those that want to impose Sharia Law with the legal pursuit of alleged civil rights.

Posted by: senor doeboy [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 8:11 PM

This situation provides yet another reason to ban virtually all Muslim immigration, and prevent nearly all Muslims from obtaining citizenship. I see the Muslim presence in New York City (and New York State too, for that matter) increasing by leaps and bounds; that this is happening despite the events of 9/11 is beyond outrageous. I will say it again, as I've said it before - Islam is inherently evil, and those who subscribe to its precepts are a menace to the rest of us.

Posted by: commonsense [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 8:27 PM

Robert Spencer requested that polite letters be sent to Sonic Wall, SurfControl and SafeSurf to ask them to un-ban Jihad Watch from the workplaces Sonic Wall services. Below is the letter I just emailed to Sonic Wall.

September 4, 2007

To Chief Executive Officer Matt Medeiros, Ms. McEvoy and Ms. Collopy:
I write to ask about the recent screening/banning, by Sonic Wall, of Robert Spencer's website www.jihadwatch.com, from a number of workplaces and other internet venues.
Robert Spencer's articles on Islam and other topics have appeared in the New York Post, the Washington Times, the Dallas Morning News, Canada's National Post, Middle East Quarterly, FrontPageMagazine.com, WorldNet Daily, Insight in the News, Human Events, National Review Online, and many other journals. He has led seminars on Islam and jihad for the United States Central Command, United States Army Command and General Staff College, a Department of Homeland Security task force, and branches of the Joint Terrorism Task Force. Also, he has discussed jihad, Islam, and terrorism at a workshop sponsored by the U.S. State Department and the German Foreign Ministry. He has also appeared on the BBC, CNN, FoxNews, PBS, MSNBC, CNBC, C-Span, France24 and Croatia National Television (HTV), as well as on numerous radio programs including Bill O'Reilly's Radio Factor, The Laura Ingraham Show, Bill Bennett's Morning in America, Michael Savage's Savage Nation, The Sean Hannity Show, The Alan Colmes Show, the G. Gordon Liddy Show, The Neal Boortz Show, The Michael Medved Show, The Michael Reagan Show, The Rusty Humphries Show, The Larry Elder Show, the Barbara Simpson Show, Vatican Radio, and many others.
If Robert Spencer is good enough for all those mainstream national venues, why is he not good enough for Sonic Wall? Spencer writes about jihad, and as a result he is sometimes accused of "bigotry" or "hate" by malicious persons who seek to squelch free speech, though Spencer has not a racist bone in his body, and jihad is carried out by persons of every race. Jihad is based on ideology, not race. Spencer, who has been studying Islam for decades, is an expert on Islamic theology, law, doctrine, and history, and discusses on his site the theological roots of jihad, Islamic law, and related subjects.
According to some reports, the reason for your ban is that www.jihadwatch.com was designated a "hate" site or something similar. Sonic Wall will find it impossible to locate a single statement by Robert Spencer himself that can be designated a "hate" type or similar statement. Nor should Robert Spencer's site be banned because this or that bigoted comment was left by someone on the open, public comments threads at his site.
I should note that there is some evidence that Sonic Wall may have received "hatesite" complaints about www.jihadwatch.com from a certain "Rev." Jim Sutter who sometimes uses other names, who was ordained by mail-order, is a convicted felon, claims to have degrees he doesn't have and honors (including the Navy Cross) that he has not received, who traffics in libel with relish, and who pretends he cares about stopping bigotry and hate. See for example,
http://exposingsutter.blogspot.com/2007/07/is-credit-card-fraud-only-religious.html
and
http://exposingsutter.blogspot.com/2007/04/rev-who-is-fraud.html
If only Sutter really did care about stopping those evils. Robert Spencer reported that according to a former associate of Sutter, the Pastor Ernie Sanders,
"Sutter is mentally ill, and has cooked up lies about many, many people. He is, said Pastor Ernie, a danger to himself and others."
See http://exposingsutter.blogspot.com/2007/08/robert-spencer-on-pastor-ernies-show.html
Sutter appears to be a sociopathic manipulator who has discovered that he has the power, by saying certain words ("bigot," "racist," "hate,") to provoke all kinds of people into various kinds of responses. For example, those Sutter slanders as "bigots" respond at first by trying to discuss the charge with him (until they see he has no sincere interest whatever in discussion). And Sutter may be succeeding sometimes in provoking website screeners, such as Sonic Wall, to ban, for a time, innocent webites. Sutter makes bigotry charges against anyone who looks with any kind of critical eye at jihad or Islam.
And there are others who want to censor open discussions of jihad, and who rely on such charges as "bigotry" to achieve censorship. CAIR, the Council for American-Islamic Relations, designated by the U.S. government as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terror trial, has employed a smear article written by Sutter against Robert Spencer. CAIR has frequently tried to squelch free speech by slandering as "racist" people who want nothing whatsoever to do with racism.
Spencer is widely respected by numerous mainstream media figures who, like Spencer himself, strongly and utterly repudiate racism, bigotry, or hate. I would therefore urge Sonic Wall to reconsider its ban of Robert Spencer’s website www.jihadwatch. The ban should be removed. Thanks very much for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely, Traeh Lewis

(Frequent visitors to Jihad Watch may notice that I have copied directly from Jihad Watch the list of venues where Spencer has been published or interviewed. I also copied almost verbatim from Spencer's writing these words in the letter above:

was ordained by mail-order, is a convicted felon, claims to have degrees he doesn't have and honors (including the Navy Cross) that he has not received, who traffics in libel with relish
I should note that when Spencer wrote those three lines, he merely said they were true according to the Exposing Sutter website. In the letter above, I've adapted the lines to have a different context of meaning. In any future letters, I won't copy anything without attribution -- doing that was a mistake.)

Posted by: traeh [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 8:28 PM

Serb-Concentration camp survivors want Oscar award revoked

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/09/05/serb-concentration-camp-survivors-want-oscar-award-revoked/

'War is Deceit'- said Muhammad

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 8:36 PM

If any drivers do not want to comply, pull their license. Any foreign drivers who dislike it enough may go home to their beautiful, freedom loving countries at any time!

Posted by: Hebrew Handyman [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 8:41 PM

I guess Muslims are not ready for prime time in the West. Hugh is right.

Posted by: Wimbledon Womble [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 8:49 PM

The most likely cause for their objection, is likely to also be the reason for the system in the first place: to detect cabbies who defraud the City and their medallion owner by transporting fares "off the meter".

I also would not be surprised if they were engaging in activities that they would not like examined too closely

Posted by: PapaBear [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 8:49 PM

This is a pretty cool example of Muslim paranoia. Another recent one was the overreaction to Israel's renovation of the Mugrabi gate outside the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, when several Arab leaders threatened to nuke Israel over it (while in fact the Waqf is destroying Jewish antiquities). Then of course there's the 9/11 Mossad/CIA theory, the date that all the Jews allegedly stayed home. Watch the MEMRI videos for many more. One reason why "peace" with Muslims is problematic: They'll always project their hatred and suspicion onto others, making genuine reconciliation impossible.

Posted by: jewdog [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 8:57 PM

The Goobs -- if the big options trade was part of a box spread, there is no risk (risks of the legs cancel each other), except the interest rate risk as with any borrowing -- it is simply a loan from / to the market. So, a red herring.

scooternyc and senor doeboy --
Atheism does indeed require as much (more, imho) faith as the traditional religions, but not in the instances of cosmological and biological evolution theories that doeboy cites -- those theories have as little to do with religion as the fact that the earth is round; they are the best way we know how to put our observations of the universe into a coherent story.
Religion at its purest is putting our observations of our inner world(s) into a coherent story -- not a totally dissimilar pursuit, and guided by an inner resonance of truth, just like science is guided by faith in logic.
Oh, and in my religion we don't make the inner/outer world distinction, or rather, don't hold it as fundamental.

Shove a GPS device up their sinus cavities I say.

Posted by: kuchuklambat [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 8:58 PM

jewdog,

That Temple Mount issue shows an amazing amount of hypocrisy when you see the new news coming from the Temple Mount about the Muslims digging up parts of the compound to make a new building.

Check this link a story from 8/29/07

http://www.jnewswire.com/article/2148

Posted by: ThackerAgency [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 9:09 PM

Thacker - I know about the Muslims' wrecking program at the Mount. Once again it shows the fundamental flaw in Islam: The Golden Rule only applies to Muslims. It's a thieves ethic, inspired by the criminal Muhammed.

Posted by: jewdog [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 9:16 PM

Heh, plenty of companies use GPS in their vehicles (e.g. rental companies). The fact that the Muslims are protesting tells me that they are up to something and don't want their movements tracked. They have declared themselves guilty.

Posted by: non-redneck [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 9:25 PM

Aww hell, this is no problem. Just tell them to cover their cabs in aluminium foil to block the GPS signal. The rubber in their tyres will insulate them from the mind rays being sent out from the Zionists' secularization weapon hidden in the Earth's core.

Posted by: Matamoros [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 9:50 PM

Actually, every Muslim should have to wear an ankle bracelet, and report to a parole officer once a month, as a condition for being allowed to live in this country.

If they protest, send them to a less oppressive society like Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: rational [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 10:03 PM

It creeps me out riding with these guys. When in NYC, I try to stick to the subway. Most of the cabbies I've had to deal with have been bad news.
Posted by: MP


Hey, MP.. You or anyone else who needs a good cledan cab with a non-moslem driver should take down this information:

The car service I use most often:

"A New Day" 212 228-6666
Nice courteous Latin drivers, mostly Dominicans. I think they generally have the best fares, Barely more than a Mahometan yellow cab, but NICE A/C and a BIG car so you can stretch your legs out.

"Allen Car Service" 212 228-1111
Pretty much the same as "New Day". Slightly more expensive but that may be only for me since many of the "new Day" drivers know me and they charge me less than usual sometimes.

A bit more expensive and more corporate, ad DEFINITELY moslem-free:
"Tel Aviv" 212 777-7777

Happy trails!

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 10:07 PM

Heh, plenty of companies use GPS in their vehicles (e.g. rental companies). The fact that the Muslims are protesting tells me that they are up to something and don't want their movements tracked. They have declared themselves guilty.
Posted by: non-redneck


yep. Take car services instead of the stank yellow cabs and live longer..

Posted by: Allahfanculo [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 10:18 PM

OT, but jihad related.
The ummah asks "How Long?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k2aX-9j6H8
This video is a blatant call for war. All the lands of the "kalifa" were lands that had belonged to others before moslems raided them. You know how they think...once islam steps foot on a land it is always islam. I really don't understand how they are the eternal victim... their "women are raped"...huh? That is a central point to all their bellyaching...raping their women. Projection?

Posted by: interestinconundrum [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 10:20 PM

what you expect a GPS could actually save these crowd of idiots with the panic button the GPS could be used to tell where they're being robbed could it be they don't want to be tracked because it might show the police where they have dropped off an Al Qaeda or homegrown terrorists

Posted by: mowasaperv [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 10:36 PM

@ kuchuklambat

I was only stating that Secular Humanist Theism is a religion/belief system/world view. I also must point out that Theories are just that, a Theory, not a proven Axiom. For example; the world is round, people have proven that with both physical travel and mathematical proofs. But on evolution, no has done more then very convincing scientific inquiries, no final proofs just an accepted scientific theory till a better theory comes along or final proof.

But that was not my argument. My argument, that you seem to agree with, is that Secular Humanist Atheism is in fact a religion/belief system/world view, and it’s fundamentalist adherents can be just like those of the other belief systems. Michael Newdows “Legal Jihad” to remove all other belief systems from the Village Square was my example.

One could say that in the Western Democracies, Secular Humanist Atheism has state sponsorship. My opinion is that the reason the bureaucracies indirectly endorse Secular Humanist Atheism is because it removes the Divine Being from granting you, “your God given rights”. This would mean your rights are “State granted rights”, and what the “State can give, the State can take”.

Posted by: senor doeboy [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 11:12 PM

Just tell these nuts that the GPS will tell them where Mecca is, and they'll demand the installation! Isn't ignorance wonderful?

kenprice

Posted by: kenprice [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 11:24 PM

@Interest:

Thanks for the link. I clicked it and got through about 15 minutes (of the total 48) before I shut it down. Just another fluff piece about how the poor Muslims have been victimized by the West/Israel in recent history.

I know that all you very clever readers of JW/DW have already made mention of this salient fact, but I would like to add my full condemnation of the Muslims screaming about GPS monitoring.

The zombies just can not stand any spotlights on them and their foul cult.

Be it trucks/cabs/ships/airplanes, whatever; if you are in the transportation business, you are being tracked. Sorry, zombies, it's NOT ABOUT RELIGION!

Geez, Louise, get that through you thick F** skulls.

I can't go from Kxxx airport to MMxx airport without being watched by my company, so get over it. (Required by 14 CFR Part 121.)

There is nothing malicious or sinister in this: They just want to know where in the H* the damn airplanes are.

So why do the zombies feel they should be exempt?

Oh, because they are Muslim. A free pass. Right.

If such monitoring is okay for EVERY airline, UPS, FedEx, and just about every trucking company here in the United States, then by G-d, then let the Federal Government require the same of ALL cab companies.

End of story. Muslim drivers who complain shall be summarily fired. And go work for you cousin Achmed at the nearest 7-11!

Cabs, cartoons, footbaths, private exercise areas at the Y, ad nauseum..

It's time for a full frontal assault on this cancer.

Rock on, Robert!


Posted by: boneshack [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 11:25 PM

Where there's smoke there's fire.

Posted by: Foehammer [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 4, 2007 11:52 PM

Cab drivers get to meet people they would not have otherwise met, and they get to go places, and see things, that they otherwise would not have gone to, or seen.
Sometimes this may be on the shady side. Cab drivers get away with a lot, especially if they are independent. For many who work for an authority, it is the end of funny business, cause big brother infidel is watching. Cabs were a good cover, but your cover is blown. Now you will have to find some other way of sneaking around.

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 12:17 AM

I'm surprised that the pest control folks didn't raise a similar stink when they started tracking them. Seems they got alot more productive when the boss knew where they were all the time.
Maybe these folks just don't want to account for their time constantly. Being a cabdriver can probably afford some alternate means of income from time to time whilst in the cab. Regardless...there is no good reason to oppose the use of this technology. Well...unless you have something to hide. While you're in the cab, or on any job, your boss has a right to know where you are and what you're doing. When off the job no one wants to be monitored nor should they be. What's the damn problem?

Posted by: Alaskan [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 12:29 AM

Nice response senor doeboy.

Posted by: duh_swami [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 12:32 AM

Bravo, senor doeboy, for responding to scooter's comment. It's true, atheism has its definite "religious" aspects, and its most zealous and intolerant strains are just as obnoxious as fundamentalist Islam.

I also would like to point out the fact that Christianity, in the fullest sense, IS based on reason and logic. Thomas Aquinas, in his "Summa Theologica" successfully integrated rational, scientific, Greco-Roman thought with Christian faith and morality.

Faith and reason are the bedrocks of the Roman Catholic Church. Without reason, faith can become madness. Without faith, reason can become pitiless... (to paraphrase GK Chesterton).

scooter, you should spend a little more time REALLY inquiring after Christianity from its roots and throughout its history -- all 2000 years. Then you might get a better picture of it than the convenient, ignorant anti-Christian monologue you heard in your schools and on the MSM.

Posted by: atheling [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 1:14 AM

If you're not doing anything wrong, you don't care who is watching.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 1:15 AM

Hello friends of JW and Dear Mr.Spencer. my greetings and warm regards to all of you. my blood boils very often at the mohammedans and thank God that I found a place with like minded folks. as an Indian [ as in India ], and a Roman Catholic and living in good old USA it burns me to find mohammedans living in US and talking against US. talk about something that bit the hand that fed. ungrateful dogs. parasites. brood of vipers. vermin. dregs of human civilization.

The Old Testament has some verses exorting war. But Jews today have re-interpreted those verses. they do not go around blowing women and children. The New Testament exorts non-violence. violence is so removed from Christianity as the east is from the west.

if a Christian takes Christ and the Gospel seriously, he will become a wonderful human being like Mother Theresa. if a mohammedan takes dirty mohammed and stupid quran seriously, he becomes a dangerous person.

friends, we need to pray and create awareness. this is a battle of idealogies. i am encouraged to find you all in this forum. i am a proud IndianInfidel.

once again, my greetings and very warm regards to all of you.

Posted by: IndianInfidel [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 1:15 AM

I drive a taxi as a job in my local town in Victoria, and we've had GPS in the fleet already for quite a long time. Really can't see the issue these drivers have, and i'm sure it's not like there aren't Muslim drivers here or in any other Australian city. Just get with it Yank cabbies!!

Posted by: DaveOz [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 1:24 AM

IndianInfidel:

Welcome to the truth and the path to the True God.

We wish you well, and welcome you here.

Chime in, anytime, where your knowledge can expand and expound any topic brought here at JW/DW.

And very warm regards to you!

Posted by: boneshack [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 1:26 AM

Indian Infidel,

Amen, brother! I just had dinner with my senior year religion teacher (from MANY, many years ago,) and in talking to him about this problem called Islam that we all face, Father said to pray, pray, pray. And then I read your post. How cool is that?

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 1:34 AM

I've been thinking hard about why Muslims would be so adamant about this and have a theory.
Five times a day they must drive to some location, wash their feet, pray, then get back to where they were(according to their travel log, which however, can be doctored). This would entail a lot of drivers in the City to have to go to Queens, Brooklyn, or New Jersey. This would result in lost meter time, unwarranted gas usage, and excessive mileage resulting in unnecessary wear and tear and the coinciding maintenance costs.
The law does not protect this type of abuse. It is plainly the illegal use(cab) and theft of business property(gas). GPS would highlight this behavior and devout Muslim would lose their jobs.

Posted by: Mick_n_NYC [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 1:56 AM

Anyone remember when NYC taxi drivers looked like Robert DeNiro and Peter Boyle?

Posted by: Bingo [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 3:31 AM

The GPS system is truly a Godsend to the taxi industry, a taxi can be at your door within minutes after the phone call. It really beats me how these paranoid conspiracy junkies manage driving a taxi with these wild thoughts running through their thick skulls...

Posted by: eloivsdiablo [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 5:38 AM

ImNoDhimmi -- Toronto. *sigh*

I'd move down east in a heartbeat. I have roots in New Brunswick; my husband has roots in Nova Scotia.

We were down east for a couple of weeks last year. I spent most of my time in cemeteries and libraries in NB and in the archives in NS. *bliss*

Posted by: Josephine [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 6:16 AM

Traeh -- excellent letter.

Posted by: Josephine [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 6:42 AM

Josephine, thank you.

Posted by: traeh [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 6:59 AM

Hi IndianInfidel.

You said: "The Old Testament has some verses exorting war."

Actually, unlike the Qur'an, the Old Testament has no open ended command for Jews to wage war on unbelievers. There are incidents in the Old Testament where God is presented as ordering the Jews to wipe out this or that particular tribe or people. Those incidents are descriptive and historical. By contrast, the Qur'an contains prescriptive, open-ended commands to Muslims to wage war on unbelievers in general, not just on some particular peoples, and to do so on into the indefinite future, until religion is "all for Allah."

At any rate, that's my imperfect understanding of how Robert Spencer explains the difference.

Posted by: traeh [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 7:11 AM

"The Old Testament has some verses exorting war."

That is false. Traeh is correct: The Old Testament has no open ended command for Jews to wage war on unbelievers. The biblical Jews were commanded to wipe out certain tribes then and there, which are named in the bible.

These tribes are gone, so fortunately we don't need to follow any such commandment and we don't have to kill anyone according to Jewish scriptures...

Posted by: sheik yer'mami [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 7:40 AM

Driving around in Denmark's second largest City around 200mls a night. GPS is great and of course it adds to our security as well! We have integrated system with Infra Red camera on 2-days', hard-disc loop and concealed alarm button. The moment it goes off, all the drivers see the BLACK MARK on their displays, the radio mic goes on, so the Central can listen ("Put the knife down or I drive this car off the Railway Bridge with you and 2 of your friends!"). The fact the Mo-Loosers hate it shows, primary, they live mentally in 7th Century, and second, they feel thay have something to hide!
Me & my colleagues are very happy about the intgrated system: since it's introduction we have no homicides, and nearly no assaults. The fact that abt. 40% of payments go wirelessly on CreditCards, known to the night-city-predators, also contributes to our security. And we can find EVERY front-door in whole Denmark!
My whole-hearted thanks to Pentagon/DARPA for this gift of GPS!!!

Posted by: Taxi-Dane [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 8:46 AM

'...the blood always flows where the muhammadan goes.'

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2

I don't know if you just made that up, Ynkedool2, but what a great sound bite that one is. Bumperstickers, anyone?

And allahfanculo, thanks for the reminder about Tel Aviv car service; forgot about 'em. Not so handy when one needs only to hail a cab for a quick ride down the pike after a dinner out, though. I'm very uncomfortable, at this point, that about 95% of the time I get into a cab, the driver is Muhammad. (Well, sometimes he's Achmed.)

And nobody else has mentioned it, but as a woman who often takes cabs alone, I feel this is an added layer of "protection", should the cabbie get any funny ideas.

Posted by: Vee [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 9:21 AM

Elric66,

It's interesting how you attempted to argue salient facts and theories, but Danial couldn't do more than insult you & JW readers.

Funny, I don't need Spencer to have these opinions (no offense meant, Robert). I'd find the information other places if I didn't find it all at JW.

I had the same opinion before I found JW that I have now, because I read for myself.

Wish I could say the same for your "opponents!"


senor doeboy,

As a Secular Conservative (somewhere between Agnostic & Atheist), I wholeheartedly agree with your assertions about the religious aspect of a lack of faith.

I don't think I really fit in that category, mainly because I'm some freak of nature who doesn't need something else to fill that "void." I could be wrong, but I don't feel like it's necessary for me.

I guess that's because my values & ethics (my Conservatism) are still with me, but I do see almost every other Atheist finding some "cause" (like Global Warming or the Environment) as a substitute for religion.

What bothers me most about Atheists in particular is their disdain for those who are religious, when they're really no different! I get very angry at that attitude, and tend to snark. (You may have seen some here, but it's mostly at HotAir where I lose it.)

I guess that's because I was raised in the South, where religion is important to people, and all my friends are deeply religious. We respect each other's rights and freedoms, despite our differences. Kinda like the Founding Fathers intended. Kinda like here (at least among the more cordial readers!). ;)


IndianInfidel,

Welcome to JW! I look forward to your particular insight to the Jihadi problems our world is having. This is a great group of worldly and learned people, and I think you will like it here. Again, welcome.

Posted by: Miss_Anthrope [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 9:56 AM

It's high time we drove these scum out of "our" Cities....especially LA and NYC. The guaranteed way to do it is to carry a COLD BEER (preferably a Sam Adams),and a PULLED PORK SANDWICH into every cab you ride in. They hate alcohol and pork so much that the liability to their souls will be too much for them to take. This is a clash of civilizations, and one thing we can not do is be civil with an enemy that has no intention of civility with us. As I type this, the news reports say that the massive terror attack plan against our German assets (Ramstein AFB) was discovered, and that the three Pakis apprehended have a PROFOUND HATRED FOR AMERICANS. If these Pakis are found guilty, and hopefully executed, the Marines need to throw a dead pig into each of their coffins to assure their souls achieve eternal damnation.

Posted by: coyotesx5 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 10:27 AM

Greetings, all. Long time reader, don't comment much. I posted something on the subject of taxi's a few years ago (http://sadoldgoth.blogspot.com/2004/08/terror-meter-is-running.html)
and will not use them when in NYC. It's long been my opinion that any conveyance that moves the public should be tracked by GPS and that should be mandated by federal law. Aside from the obvious safety considerations and cutting down the response time of emergency response crews and law enforcement in the event of an unfortunate event, it would keep tabs on a very discreet and mobile fleet of deployment vehicles in the control of suspicious characters.
Thanks for your constant and unflagging efforts, Mr.
Spencer, I'm proud to share the same last name. And, to the commenting readers, thanks for your insight and perspective.
Cheers,
Gregor

Posted by: the sad old goth... [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 12:40 PM

Interesting. Do a google news search for taxi terrorist. Is it simply a coincidence that so many terrorists drive taxis? Maybe taxi drivers are involved in an upcoming terrorist attack.

Recall that the FBI had been warned about potential airline terrorism prior to 911 but nothing was done. Maybe the FBI/CIA know something about the cabs and are doing what they can to track them?

The most disturbing thing is that these Muslims are so annoyed by the GPS going in their cabs.

Really! If they are doing nothing illegal or dishonest, they should not care if the company can track their whereabouts. The cars ARE owned by the company!

Think about it? Would any of you non-muslims care? You would if you were secretly plotting to use the cab cover to do a terrorist act. You would assume that the US government was 'on to you' and would then get ticked off and try to turn it around any way you could.

Terrorists must be so ticked off that their carefully laid plots keep getting exposed all over the world and stopped before they can carry them out! What great frustration they must feel! All their efforts gone down the drain and they find their ahsses sitting in jail. Boo frickin hoo.

They are so pathetic.

Posted by: The Goobs [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 5, 2007 6:57 PM

Welcome Indian Infidel! It's always encouraging to see a new face (metaphorically) because that means we can add one more enlightened soul to our very short list.

Please visit often and tell all your friends and family about this fantastic website. I'm so hooked on this place that I can't miss over three days without becoming very anxious, because most of the very relevant, important, newsworthy articles posted here are not found anywhere else, least of all in our deplorable mainstream media. I like to keep abreast of the latest, up to the minute, islamic atrocities and threats.

Posted by: Susanp [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 6, 2007 1:57 AM

I hope the Muslim taxi drivers don't figure out that the Global anti-Islam Conspiracy has already installed hidden tracking devices on their cabs. The Jewish/Crusader/Hindu/Buddhist conspiracy knows all. It is hopeless, the taxi drivers may as well return to Dar al-Islam where they will be safe. With their peaceful bretheren.

Posted by: special_guest [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 6, 2007 2:53 AM

I heard the city tried to offer some alternatives & compromises, like forming a new business.
It was suggested they call it allah-cab, but they either screamed it was too blasphemous...or said something about it sounding too much like a fast food delivery vehicle.
So they suggested it turn the name around and call it cab-allah...and they went berzerk for some unknown reason, something to do with evil joooooooz.
The city gave up after that.
(sarc)

Posted by: jcom972 [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 6, 2007 4:34 AM

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