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Tiny Minority of Extremists Update from TradingMarkets.com (thanks to Twostellas).
Berlin - The lack of cooperation of Muslim communities with the security authorities remains a weak point of the fight against terrorism in Germany. Six years after the attacks on 11 September 2001, according to a survey of the news agency ddp in all federal laender, the authorities can hardly count on active support from Muslim communities. In 2007, they have received practically no specific information on "radicalized fellow believers, on recruiters of terrorist organizations, or on planned attacks."
Why is that? Whenever someone says something like this in the U.S., Muslim spokesmen charge that they are helping, they are working against terror, but they don't get any coverage in the press for such efforts. But this is the word of German authorities, who have every interest in playing up the extent of Muslim cooperation.
Yet still, this question, Why not?, as crucial as it is, will not even be asked, or if asked, will be answered by charges of offensive, hyper-suspicious behavior on the part of German authorities.
In response to the key question of whether they had active help this year in the form of tips from Muslim communities, the answer was almost entirely a clear no. It was reported from Lower Saxony that there had been isolated tips on radicalization. In Hessen, there was reserved talk of "slight tendencies towards openness." In three laender, the authorities did not want to give any information. These laender had declared in previous ddp-inquiries that they had not received any corresponding tips in the past years. In addition to the obvious attempt not to offend the Muslim communities, some answers showed a certain lack of understanding for the missing cooperation. From Bavaria, for example, it was reported that the "Bavarian Office for Constitutional Protection has still not received any tips from Muslims despite appeals in the Internet and a special contact telephone set up for this purpose." The security experts in Berlin had similar experiences. In the past there, an anonymous telephone had not yielded any tangible results. In response to the question of whether it has received any tips, the Senate Interior Administration answered simply: "No." Hamburg's interior authority pointed out that the situation had not changed since the last surveys. Accordingly, no corresponding tips had been received in the Hanseatic city. Experts there assess the access to Muslim communities as "extremely difficult." In response to the question of new tendencies in cooperation between Muslims and security authorities, it was generally said that the authorities are trying to establish a basis for trust. For example, the police in Baden-Wuerttemberg have named permanent contacts for the Muslim communities. In Berlin, it was said that the cooperation had definitely changed since 11 September 2001. Accordingly, on the part of the Muslims, there is great interest "in not having their faith come under general suspicion." Apart from the fight against terrorism, there have obviously been some changes in Berlin and in other laender. In the capital city, it was said that Muslim communities would become involved in various bodies. Next year a continuing education series is supposed to increase the socio-political competence of imams. Identical inquiries of the news agency ddp in past years had yielded the same results for the time after 11 September 2001.
Posted by Robert at September 15, 2007 3:42 PM
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"Next year a continuing education series is supposed to increase the socio-political competence of imams"
Gee, and I thought they had that Taqqiya down to a well-organized Propaganda Response.
Were these "classes" paid for by the German “Dhimmi” Taxpayers?
Simple fact for the confused "authorities”?...
THEY'RE NOT ON THE SAME TEAM!!
Their objective is Sharia.
Their team is Mohammedan.
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at September 15, 2007 4:04 PM
Greetings:
"Clever insurgents strive to disguise their intentions. When these insurgents are successful at such deception, potntial counter-insurgents are at a disadvantage. A coordinated reaction requires political and military leaders to recognize that an insurgency exists and to determine its makeup and characteristics."
U.S. Army Counterinsurgency Manual, No. 3-24.
Posted by: 11B40 at September 15, 2007 4:29 PM
"this question, Why not?, as crucial as it is, will not even be asked"
That's probably because it's the most redundant question imaginable.
Posted by: Kim Hartveld at September 15, 2007 4:39 PM
Elemental and instructive, 11B40; just substitute "jihad" and jihadists" for "insurgency" and "insurgents," and retitle it "What Every American Should Know About Global Jihad."
at September 15, 2007 4:40 PM
Even if a Muslim wanted to go turncoat, they wouldn't simply out of fear and intimidation. Muslims make a death-knot bargain with Islam. No way out but through Death. These people even scare themselves. And they call this a "religion."
Islam is an echo chamber of hypocrisy.
Posted by: JohnAdams at September 15, 2007 4:50 PM
German authorities report lack of Muslim cooperation in antiterrorism fight
Well, duhhhh! Do they expect the Fifth Column to facilitate its own exposure and dismantlement?
Get rid of the demagogical, rabid imams in Germany and other Western nations, where they have been strategically planted to incite the islamic passions of muslims. If that doesn't work, get rid of all of them. Return them to their islamic homelands where everything is perfect.
Posted by: Susanp at September 15, 2007 4:53 PM
Clearly there needs to be a dialogue in German society as to why this is. The authorities and the German people must have introspection as to why they have caused this. (Excuse the racism in referring to Germans as an ethnic group. I mean the ethnic group recognized by the US Census as an ethnic group for the purpose of the US Census, I am by no means implying there has ever been an ethnic group in Germany that excludes ethnic Turks or ethnic Arabs.)
This group in Germany who are united not as an ethnic group but by their absence of ethnicity, which should not be construed as an ethnicity, simply that they are excluded from ethnicity, must come to grips to why they are nationalistic and xenophobic for people not in their ethnic group.
This is the nexus-philosophisch-complexus-analysium-bildung that must be understood.
Posted by: Old Atlantic at September 15, 2007 5:13 PM
The malignancy which is Islam continues to grow in Germany as in so many other Western countries. The West is reaping what it sowed, whether out of good intentions, ignorance or self-interest is of secondary importance. And things are only going to get worse, especially as long as clueless politicians and political correctness remain the order of the day.
Posted by: Wellington at September 15, 2007 5:14 PM
Unfortunately, many strong forces prevent Muslim cooperation. In no particular order:
1. family solidarity
2. fear of violent retaliation by jihadists
3. fear of violent retaliation by families of those turned in
4. fear of ostracizing by the Muslim community
5. sympathy with jihadist goals (rule by Islamic law), if not with jihadist methods
6. sympathy with jihadist methods and goals
Those six categories of cause, in varying proportions for varying Muslims, are preventing the vast majority of Muslims from cooperating with German authorities. Note that in the UK, polls have shown that some 50% of the Muslim population fits into category #5. I don't know what the percentage is in Germany.
at September 15, 2007 5:22 PM
At least they are reporting this. Baby steps... Maybe this is a prelude to some tougher measures ahead.. one can hope...
Posted by: Allahfanculo at September 15, 2007 5:22 PM
Old Atlantic: I hope you're being facetious with the gobbledygook you've written above because if you're not, your analysis is evidence in microcosm of a major part of the reason why the West is now in the trouble it finds itself.
Posted by: Wellington at September 15, 2007 5:23 PM
Eagle's good friend
http://towelianism.wordpress.com/2007/09/14/bush-and-bin-laden-of-the-same-cloth/
Bush = Osama
Posted by: Elric66 at September 15, 2007 5:27 PM
I wonder which will happen first, Europe's patience wearing out or Sharia law reigning in Europe.
Posted by: Elric66 at September 15, 2007 5:35 PM
Now here's what I'm talkin' about!! An anti-Jihad music video featuring a wild black rapper and some long-haired rockers burnin' down the house.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLJz3N8ayI
Posted by: traeh at September 15, 2007 5:48 PM
Two thought provoking articles to read
The Once & Future Christendom
From death of the West—to knights of the West
http://www.amconmag.com/2007/2007_09_10/cover.html
and
Christianity & Islamism by John Quincy Adams
http://www.americanvision.org/articlearchive2007/06-07-07.asp
at September 15, 2007 5:58 PM
'German authorities report lack of Muslim cooperation in antiterrorism fight'
In the presence of terrorism and the planning of it by the sack full all over this planet and if Islam is so peaceful, Muslims should be coming out in droves to defeat it.
Not so, therefore the so called moderates, if there are any, are fueling the fire of Islamophobia and supporting jihad and the destruction of western nations.
Once the tiny light goes on, public opinion will slowly turn against the Muslim world.
Muslims stand for peace? but do nothing to ensure it.
The writing is on the wall.
Posted by: sounder at September 15, 2007 6:30 PM
Wellington,
I don't think Old Atlantic is being sarcastic.
I went to his site link on his name and got this title:
2007 9-11; Red Crescent Memorial Day
Assimilation and Fear
One Source Group and Vanishing Survival for Rest
September 11th, 2007
The article seems to have the same tone as Hitler’s Mein Kempf with regards to the “Living Room” issue Hitler had with the Slavic people.
But click on the link in his name and decide for yourself.
Or use this link
Posted by: senor doeboy at September 15, 2007 6:39 PM
Wow, just found a version of the same anti-Jihad music video but this time integrating video from Wafa Sultan, Walid Shoebat, and others, and at the end it sends people to jihadwatch.com and faithfreedom.org.
Warning: the mf word is used twice, and the f word appears at the very end.
This video is an anti-jihad propaganda masterpiece:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9oX5Q2ftmA&NR=1
Posted by: traeh at September 15, 2007 6:50 PM
Wow, just found a different version of the "Open Season" anti-Jihad music video but this time integrating video from Wafa Sultan, Walid Shoebat, and others, and at the end it sends people to jihadwatch.com and faithfreedom.org.
Warning: the mf word is used twice, and the f word appears at the very end.
This music video is an anti-jihad masterpiece:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9oX5Q2ftmA&NR=1
Posted by: traeh at September 15, 2007 7:00 PM
One thing everyone probably agrees on...
The only surprise here is the fact that anyone would BE surprised at lack of cooperation on this from those "part of the problem"s.
at September 15, 2007 7:33 PM
Perhaps the German authorities are having trouble because they've failed to define the situation accurately. Do they really mean anti-terrorism, when what they are facing is a tactic to bring Islam to Germany?
Instead, they should say anti-Islamic domination. Then the reason for the lack of cooperation would at least be obvious, since most Muslims want Islam to dominate, a goal which is axiomatic in the religion.
If the authorities could conceive of the problem that way, then the solution would suggest itself: Ban Islamic immigration.
at September 15, 2007 7:37 PM
I tend to agree with John Adams here. As much as I despise the Jihadists, I had to sit down and try to theorize why everyday, non-terrorist Muslims will not cooperate with law authorities, worldwide, and why 99% of them do not speak up against terrorism. I think most of them are flat-out terrified of reprisals. They recognize that death and murder seem to be the only response from the terrorists, and many assume they and their families will be targeted if they speak up. Another segment silently agree with the Jihadists, but they don't want to admit as much, as they fear being targeted by law enforcement. And, a third segment suffers from overwhelming apathy, much as the civilian population of Iraq just sits back and waits for the next massive suicide bomb to hit their neighborhood markets. None of these are, in the long run, sufficient excuses. Throughout history, especially in Europe and the US, brave people have stood up to tyranny and murder, and many paid a terrible price. I don't see this backbone or this bravery in Islam. I see only murder and cowardice. There is something intrinsically wrong with a people or a religion that seem to only know two choices: slaughter, or cower in fear.
Posted by: robertkjjj at September 15, 2007 7:56 PM
"The article seems to have the same tone as Hitler’s Mein Kempf with regards to the “Living Room” issue Hitler had with the Slavic people."
senor doeboy [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 15, 2007 6:39 PM
You might want to try this search:
Results 1 - 100 of about 82,900 for "island model" genetics.
Population Genetics Island Model One Way Migration
Genetics. 1979 January; 91(1): 163–176.
The Island Model with Stochastic Migration
Thomas Nagylaki
Department of Biophysics and Theoretical Biology, The University of Chicago, 920 East 58th Street, Chicago, Illinois 60637
" The island model with stochastically variable migration rate and immigrant gene frequency is investigated. It is supposed that the migration rate and the immigrant gene frequency are independent of each other in each generation, and each of them is independently and identically distributed in every generation. The treatment is confined to a single diallelic locus without mutation. If the diploid population is infinite, selection is absent and the immigrant gene frequency is fixed, then the gene frequency on the island converges to the immigrant frequency, and the logarithm of the absolute value of its deviation from it is asymptotically normally distributed."
Senor doeboy, you might want to look at the link above which links to the Nagylaki article at NIH US gov. Also the link at my name in this post has related math in words which you may find easier than the Nagyalki article's central section. However, the abstract and conclusion are readable by the non-technical reader. You can also look at standard texts in population genetics like Eliot Spiess.
==
"Old Atlantic: I hope you're being facetious with the gobbledygook you've written above because if you're not, your analysis is evidence in microcosm of a major part of the reason why the West is now in the trouble it finds itself.
Posted by: Wellington [TypeKey Profile Page] at September 15, 2007 5:23 PM "
"being facetious with the gobbledygook" Yes.
Posted by: Old Atlantic at September 15, 2007 8:14 PM
senor doeboy: Thanks for the link. Went there and found geeky, suffering-from-too-much information-and-not-putting-it-altogether-kind-of-stuff, not to mention suggestions here and there which struck me as antithetical to Jeffersonian democracy working properly (to put it mildly). I fear Old Atlantic is out to lunch but probably thinks himself sublime, when in actual fact he's tedious. I'm done with him in any case. Again, thank you.
Posted by: Wellington at September 15, 2007 8:15 PM
robertkjjj: For me, moderate Muslims are arguably a greater menace than radical Muslims precisely because they put a happy face on Islam for different reasons----they actually fool themselves into thinking Islam is a good thing; they are too afraid to speak out and therefore spout soothing nothings about their faith; they believe Islam can evolve into a kinder, more understanding religion (it can't); they're hedging their bets, etc.----and thus deceive way too many non-Muslims into thinking that a good religion has been hijacked, when in fact a bad religion has been obfuscated. Would that all Muslims were radicals (i.e., true Muslims) because then it would be far easier for all non-believers to see the rot that lies within.
Posted by: Wellington at September 15, 2007 8:32 PM
Wellington,
Maybe you could help me out with some specifics.
"suffering-from-too-much information"
Which information was too much? Why?
"antithetical to Jeffersonian democracy working properly (to put it mildly)"
What specifically?
"For me, moderate Muslims are arguably a greater menace than radical Muslims"
Are you saying you are against Muslim immigration?
Are you saying being against Muslim immigration is Jeffersonian democracy when you advocate it, but not when I do?
"Went there and found geeky, suffering-from-too-much information-and-not-putting-it-altogether-kind-of-stuff"
What wasn't put together?
"He stated that of all his achievements, he wished to be remembered for these three accomplishments: the drafting of the Declaration of Independence, the Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom, and the founding of the University of Virginia.
"
Isn't UVa geeky too? Wasn't Jefferson's library geeky?
Posted by: Old Atlantic at September 15, 2007 8:40 PM
traeh - Very good video, you're right to tout it. Thx!
Posted by: jewdog at September 15, 2007 8:41 PM
Sorry last quote was from Vanishing American, the link didn't come through or I forgot to post it.
Posted by: Old Atlantic at September 15, 2007 8:42 PM
Wellington, you are 100% right on when you say "..and thus deceive way too many non-Muslims into thinking that a good religion has been hijacked, when in fact a bad religion has been obfuscated. " You have an excellent way with words, and you nailed it here.
at September 15, 2007 8:46 PM
If a pack of wolves publicly announces their intention to kill, and then is allowed to roam freely throughout the land targeting, killing and devouring its intended prey; thoroughly enjoying not only the thrill of the chase and the evenutal kill, but also the fear that the pack inflicts on its prospective victims/prey:
When the end goal is ultimate power, fear and dominion, and you are successful in acheiving these goals, do you really think that one wolf would turn away and become a vegetarian, and drag his brother wolf in to the wolf police?
Wolves thrive on blood, fear and terror. It's a fact of life, and we all know it. The practice of islam is a wolf pack mentality.
"We're all Little Red Riding Hoods"
at September 15, 2007 9:17 PM
islam is like the Roach motel. You can be born in it, check into it, live around it and perhaps convert to it. But once you check into this roach motel, you can never leave.
/Black Flag... Roaches check in but they don't check out!
/Hotel California.. "You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave".
You're either dealt the fate of being born into this filth with no way out, or you choose to convert because you have a Nazi like mentality. There's "no way out".
islam is a disgusting cancer on this Earth.. a pimple on the ass of Satan.. A scourge that has scarred humanity for all time. And the worst part? "There's no way out".
Posted by: Laughs_at_Silly_Jihadis at September 15, 2007 9:34 PM
Im sure their is some scripture that would explain why muslims must work together against the infidels.
Posted by: KAOSKTRL at September 15, 2007 9:51 PM
I wanted to leave one more comment if I can be forgiven for overloading this thread a little. Our two colleagues have helped stimulate a discussion where I wanted to make a few additional points.
One is that we are routinely called xenophobic by CAIR and others, i.e. basing our proposals on emotion not on logic or facts. The reason its important to cite papers in established genetics journals is to show that our side is based on science, data, math, logic, etc. and the other side is based in emotion.
Most people in America don't want to have their alleles replaced, even if allele is just a fancy word for variant of a specific gene. If there is one immigrant per year without it being from circulation from a balanced flow going out, then there is replacement of genes.
Jeffersonian Democracy really is about:
(1) The right of the people to be informed of what is published in journals in genetics.
(2) The right to decide if they want their alleles replaced, i.e. their genes replaced.
If this isn't Jeffersonian democracy what is? Replacement without being told that its published in journals and taught at leading universities, despite the pressure of PC, and without a chance to vote on it is not Jeffersonian Democracy.
Its those on the left who oppose that what is in science journals also be part of the political discussion. Jefferson would, if alive today, want to know what was in science journals on such an important subject and would inform himself. His example should count on what is Jeffersonian Democracy.
Its those who called Virgil Goode a bigot and an idiot, which were the words of Begala, that are in fact wrong. The above quotations from the Nagylaki paper show that its Begala who bases his comments on emotion, while Goode was using reason.
That is Jeffersonian Democracy and Goode represents the district that contains Jefferson's house and the University of Virginia. Jefferson's library is still part of the Library of Congress collection.
We have to work doubly hard to be geeky so that the other side is exposed as the ones who use emotion and not the library.
(More on Begala's comments on Goode at the link at my name.)
Posted by: Old Atlantic at September 15, 2007 9:57 PM
How Simple! Work with us drink beer with us and then kill us. It’s ok because Allah said so!
Posted by: dcat at September 15, 2007 9:57 PM
Moderate islam is an oxymoron.
There may be moderate muslims, but there is no moderate islam.
Every ignorant reporter with the MSM should be forced to read the koran before being allowed to write another story about the islamic challenge.
A hateful ideology of war is islam.
Posted by: dgene at September 15, 2007 10:02 PM
Good news. NY Times stock has gone from being over-valued to devalued. The dhimmi entity is now ripe for takeover bids from numerous cash-heavy, center-right publishing firms. Their resources and and anti-jihad ideology could change history.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/09/new_york_times_company_stock_b.html
More good news. A major writer, Walter Laqueur, has
made an issue of the Muslim demographic invasion of Europe. In "The Last Days of Europe," Laqueur writes of immigrants from the Islamobasketcases, seeking to impose their values on Europeans. Laqueur
CANNOT be ignored by the book reviews. The second I hit "post" I begin an engagement with a dhimmi critic. Wish me luck.
at September 15, 2007 10:05 PM
I'd been surprised if they were cooperating.
The built-in islamic modus operandum is to not show allegiance to any nation state, only to ummah. Why would Germans, or Brits, or anyone expect anything else? That the Moslem masses will not cooperate with authorities trying to catch jihadists is a given. Why surprise? They're enemy. Any Muslim 'moderates' out there to contradict this?.... silence... quiet as mice.
Any courageous Muslims to speak out against jihadi aggressions? ... silence......
Well, there's you answer, loud and clear.
Posted by: Battle_of_Tours at September 15, 2007 10:28 PM
More Bush as common genius BS. He meets with doormat bloggers and proves, yet again, that aspects of the Muslim dogma on protracted war, cannot enter his faith-based, alcohol polluted brain. Bill Roggio isn't an expert; he is a front line fanatic, who can't see that the rearguard in Iraq includes most American Muslims. They will break out the candy when he is killed by an IED, paid for by Bush's masters in the Saud terrorist entity.
http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/003110.php
Anyone who supports imposing years of worthless "slog" on US soldiers, is guilty of contributory homicide.
Posted by: supercargo at September 15, 2007 10:45 PM
Do you doubt that Muslim immigrants are carriers of Islamic aggression? Check out this 1999 article in al-Ahram.
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/1999/411/debate.html
Posted by: supercargo at September 15, 2007 11:06 PM
"This music video is an anti-jihad masterpiece:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9oX5Q2ftmA&NR=1 "
Don't just watch the video! Support Stuck Mojo and buy the "Southern Born Killers" CD with bonus DVD! US$16 only! Shipping included! These guys get it.
http://www.stuckmojo.us/merch-home.html
Scroll down......
at September 15, 2007 11:42 PM
Old Atlantic: Jeffersonian democracy is beautifully simple and effective. For it to work it needs the democratic element accompanied by the capitalistic economic model (Jefferson himself said that where there is no private property there is no freedom), a proper moral foundation (which would include, among other ethical systems, the Judeo-Christian model, the Aristotelian one or the Confucian approach, but certainly not that provided by Islam, which is a warped morality in sundry ways), and a legal system which also manifests fairness throughout and with the ability to be flexible and adaptive (thus ruling out Islamic religious law which is a draconian, brittle legal system if ever there were one). Four factors then: democracy, capitalism, a proper moral foundation and an enlightened legal system constitute the Jeffersonian paradigm. Any country on earth can be successful should it adopt this model. To the extent that any nation does not work optimally, then to that extent one or more of the four factors mentioned above are missing or at least not employed effectively enough. Democracy alone is hardly sufficient. For instance, if ten people were stranded on a desert island and six were men and four were women and the six men voted yea to doing whatever they desired with the four women, you would have democracy, i.e., majority rule, but it would be a sham democracy because it would not be infused with a proper moral foundation. So it is, for example, with Hamas, which was elected in Gaza. Yes, one sees here majority rule, but it is not accompanied by a valid moral system nor a proper legal one either, therefore one witnesses there a bastard or sham democracy, something falling fall short of what Jefferson and the other Foundinig Fathers envisioned. Ditto for democracy accompanied by a socialistic economic model, whereby the kind of freedom (and not just economic) envisioned by Jefferson is thwarted.
As for Jeffersonian democracy really being all about "The right of the people to be informed of what is published in journals in genetics and the right to decide......if they want their genes replaced," methinks you have erred significantly respecting a proper comprehension of Jefferson's political philosophy. Let me put it another way: Are you f---ing kidding? And having gone to the link (oldatlantic lighthouse, etc.) provided by senor doeboy and read some of the articles there, I couldn't help but think of the importance of simplicity a la Abraham Lincoln to insure the body politic "gets it" in that Jeffersonian democratic system I have been describing. Dense prose runs contrary to that sage piece of advice to say what you mean and mean what you say in ordinary English. Study Old Abe's brilliant speeches for instuction here.
Oh, yeah, one last thing. The Founding Fathers, including Jefferson, understood the value of religion in public life, even though many of them were skeptics in private, again including Jefferson. But I'm sure they wouldn't have included Islam in that assessment. After all, Jefferson himself referred to the Koran as "demonic." He knew.
Posted by: Wellington at September 16, 2007 12:41 AM
Charles Bogle: Rap music is not for me, but I'll make an exception for what you described as "an anti-jihad masterpiece." Found those eight minutes disturbing and chilling, but then that was the idea, wasn't it? Thanks for the link.
Posted by: Wellington at September 16, 2007 1:07 AM
Supercargo, the link supplied (http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/1999/411/debate.html) seems dead. Likely something in there someone doesn't want to read.
Posted by: thibjac at September 16, 2007 1:31 AM
traeh has it correct! Perfunctoriness seems the norm, as someone else will rise to the occassion to save the meek. If one wants something, stick ones neck out! There will be sacrifices for sure. Sharia certainly is not an option for free thinkers. Terrorists are willing to spend there lives for a cause of totalarism! Where are the moderates to LIVE their lives for promotion of tollerance!
There must be a good reason why were are hated around the world, yet everyone wants to live here! A dichotomy in a pure form!
Posted by: stan636 at September 16, 2007 4:25 AM
"As for Jeffersonian democracy really being all about "The right of the people to be informed of what is published in journals in genetics and the right to decide......if they want their genes replaced," methinks you have erred significantly respecting a proper comprehension of Jefferson's political philosophy. Let me put it another way: Are you f---ing kidding?"
I have posted a reply to your comments in your last post and earlier ones at my blog.
Is the West too anti-geek to survive?
The following link has a proof of genetic replacement but is easier to follow for those who don't have the math expected in the Nagylaki article. It still takes some work though.
Immigration Vanishing Survival Theorem
Posted by: Old Atlantic at September 16, 2007 7:40 AM
DP111 -
Thank you for the link to
The Once & Future Christendom
From death of the West—to knights of the West
Excellent article! The analogy between what's happening in the world today and Tolkien's LOTR trilogy is fascinating and chilling. Pinkerton has the right idea, for sure.
at September 16, 2007 7:46 AM
Robert should send Stuck Mojo free Jihadwatch tee-shirts and stickers to wear and display on their next video or concert.
at September 16, 2007 10:02 AM
"DP111 -
Thank you for the link to
The Once & Future Christendom
From death of the West—to knights of the West
Excellent article! "
ImNoDhimmi
Quote from James Pinkerton article
"If demography is the author of destiny, then the danger of Europe falling within dar al-Islam is real. And in addition to the teeming Muslim lumpen already within the gates, plenty more are coming. According to United Nations data, the population of the Arab world will increase from 321 million in 2004 to 598 million in 2050. Are those swarming masses really going to hang back in Egypt and Yemen when Europe beckons?"
Wellington,
I don't think Old Atlantic is being sarcastic.
I went to his site link on his name and got this title:
2007 9-11; Red Crescent Memorial Day
Assimilation and Fear
One Source Group and Vanishing Survival for Rest
September 11th, 2007
The article seems to have the same tone as Hitler’s Mein Kempf with regards to the “Living Room” issue Hitler had with the Slavic people.
senor doeboy
Posted by: Old Atlantic at September 16, 2007 10:35 AM
Loved that video and posted it twice! Both meant for CAIR!
Posted by: dcat at September 16, 2007 12:26 PM
"Berlin - The lack of cooperation of Muslim communities with the security authorities remains a weak point of the fight against terrorism in Germany."
Shouldn't that be enough to wake the German government up?"
Posted by: rational at September 16, 2007 7:51 PM
An arabic boy in a kindergarten in Germany knew about the 9/11 attacks, one day before they happened:
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2777019,00.html
http://www.welt.de/politik/article1173457/Kind_soll_Terrorplanung_belauscht_haben.html?nr=1&pbpnr=0
"Even before he took his jacket off, he came to me and blurted out that he'd come from Arabic school, and that he'd heard some grown-ups talking there. They'd said that a plane was going to hit a big building and that a lot of people would die."
The kindergarten worker believed that he had seen too much TV, or an especially explosive action movie. But a day later (after the attacks happened) she went to the police.
Investigators found three cards of the boy's father in the Hamburg residences of Mohammed Atta's gang.
Another connection to the attacks lies in the person of Mohamed Ould Slahi. The Mauritanian national, who has been in American custody at Guantanamo since 2001, studied electrical engineering in Duisburg and was a frequent visitor to the mosque.
Slahi is said to have helped Atta recruit men to carry out the attacks. It is now believed he might have been one of the men young Mustafa heard talking on Sept. 10.
at September 16, 2007 10:17 PM
"Das nordrhein-westfälische Innenministerium sieht indes keinen Neuigkeitswert dieser Recherchen.
...
Es habe, wie WELT ONLINE erfuhr, keinen Bezug zu den Attentätern des 11. September gegeben, und besagte Moschee sei auch kein Hort von Islamisten gewesen."
The ministry of the interior of North Rhine-Westphalia does not acknowledge the news value of these inquiries.
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There has been no relation with the assassins of September 11, they told WELT ONLINE, and the aforesaid mosque has not been a hoard of islamists.
at September 17, 2007 12:01 AM
The Germans are complaining about 'lack of muslim cooperation in antiterrorism fight'.
These are the same Germans that just informed America that 'they will not be cooperating with any sanctions against Iran because it will hurt Germanys economy'.
Are we talking about the same Germany? They are complaining about lack of cooperation while they inform us that they do not want to cooperate.
Besides what German economy? If they would get serious with immigration/welfare they would have an economy.
Posted by: alaskan1000 at September 17, 2007 4:40 PM
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