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Speaking of Cartoon Rage, here's some more. The main character in The Infidel, the upcoming graphic novel by the ex-Muslim Bosch Fawstin, is another ex-Muslim cartoonist. The one who is a character in the book creates "Pigman," a ruthless counter-jihad superhero, as a response to 9/11. His creating the Pigman comic book brings him face to face with the enemy: his born-again Muslim brother, who has become a jihadist.
Here is Pigman's principal enemy, SuperJihad.
Will the death fatwas fly when The Infidel appears? (It will be released in chapters beginning late fall 2007.) Will Pigman, or his ex-Muslim creator, be intimidated or frightened into submission if they do? Or will they stand up and fight more fiercely than ever? Oh, how will our heroes ever get out of this one? Stay tuned!
ADDENDUM: Bosch informs me that he has received this email from the jihad apologist Sami Zaatari, who keeps stuffing my inbox with garbarge too. Feel the love:
September 19th, 2007 at 10:24AM (EDT).from: sami-zaatari@hotmail.com
mesg: indeed once again you infidels show what scum you are, making your comics to mock, insult, and make fun of muslims and Islam. plz continue doing it because it will only backfire on you on the long-term, because really if your looking for a fight you dont have to look no further than us Muslims because we will easily destroy you. :) you will never defeat Islam or Muslims, even with all your wars, hate crimes, discrimination and racism, you are in a never ending losing war and you will be thrown into hell when its all said and done. backward infidel, thats all you are.
Posted by Robert at September 19, 2007 9:12 AM
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I predict Pigman will triumph!
On another note, isn't the "religious book ban" taking place in prisons all about getting Islamic books out, but the Christian and Jewish books have to go too so it doesn't appear that just the Islamic books are being targetted?
And this writer doesn't understand that?
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at September 19, 2007 9:44 AM
Too cool!!!!
Posted by: Elric66 at September 19, 2007 9:45 AM
...i want a pigman teeshirt....
Posted by: exsgtbrown at September 19, 2007 9:48 AM
The chances of this series being made into a movie along the lines of X-Men or Transformers is 187,000,000,000,000,000,000,000-to-1.
Still, Bosch should offer the screenplay to Sean Penn just to deeply offend him.
Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at September 19, 2007 9:50 AM
I want it...
Posted by: Josephine at September 19, 2007 9:55 AM
Does PigMan celebrate Hamadan?
Posted by: Buck at September 19, 2007 9:57 AM
http://www.cafepress.com/fawstin/3433243
"OINK if you've JIHADIT!"-lol
Keep up the good fight Bosch Fawstin! You're doing a great job!
Posted by: mrockroll1969 at September 19, 2007 9:58 AM
Thanks everyone, especially to Robert for posting this.
Posted by: Bosch Fawstin at September 19, 2007 10:08 AM
This is terrific! Glad to see this is produced by a one time follower.
"Pigman" & company will reside next to a new collection of comic books on my anti-jihad bookshelf . . .joining "Mohammed's Believe it or Else" (download copy here http://islamcomicbook.com/ with great music too).
Posted by: miira at September 19, 2007 10:12 AM
Will this appear on either DC or Marvel Comics? If this is the case, they better be ready for any possible trouble.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at September 19, 2007 10:52 AM
exsgtbrown
PIGMAN Tee shirt? I want one regardless!
HAMADAN! Great! hahahaha
Posted by: Steve at September 19, 2007 10:52 AM
For the record, as much as one can be 'born' a Muslim, I was born a Muslim. My Muslim upbringing was mainly about observing Islamic prohibitions. And we only went to Mosque around once a year in Brooklyn when I was a kid. It was 9/11 that made me pick up the Koran and do my homework on Islam, to confirm my suspicions about Islam's responsibility for the attacks for for all of the atrocities we see on a daily basis.
My blood still boils as it did on that day, especially when I hear someone pretending that Islam is not what it is. The enemy's gonna get in The Infidel.
at September 19, 2007 11:48 AM
Bosch Fawstin, I'm glad that you had the courage to do your own research and your own thinking about islam. Thank you for being on the front line with us on this never ending war. Do you think islam ever has a chance to reform? And are there moderate muslims out there-who are indifferent to the jihad and other bad passages in the quaran? Are you an apostate and what does your family think about your position on islam?
Posted by: mrockroll1969 at September 19, 2007 11:57 AM
Bosch Fawstin, I'm glad that you had the courage to do your own research and your own thinking about islam. Thank you for being on the front line with us on this never ending war. Do you think islam ever has a chance to reform? And are there moderate muslims out there-who are indifferent to the jihad and other bad passages in the quaran? Are you an apostate and what does your family think about your position on islam?
Posted by: mrockroll1969 at September 19, 2007 11:58 AM
SuperJihad's Hitler mustache had me in stitches. I'm not really into graphic novels but I just may have to get this.
Posted by: staff_of_magius at September 19, 2007 12:22 PM
mrockroll1969
Here's a slightly edited response I gave to similar questions:
Once you allow the murder of human beings as an intrinsic part of spreading your belief system, and as a literal part of your 'holy book', NO irrelevant, out of context good can be claimed. No redemption is possible. Now, from my experience, most Muslims are simply better than Islam, and I attribute that to their humanity, to their ability to ignore Islam and its constant pull to influence the worst part of our natures.
The moment Mohammad crossed the line and used his sword to spread Islam was the moment Islam was revealed as an even more impotent belief system than originally thought. Mohammad understood that without force, Islam would have died with him, and that tells you a lot about his ‘faith’ in his own religion.
It all begins with Mohammad, it all begins with the nature of the man. He is considered the perfect man in Islam. So morality, when it came to Islam, was equated with ‘Mohammed’ and whatever he said and did. It’s no mystery that where Islam dominates, there’s hell on earth.
We’re still looking for ‘the good’ in something bad because that’s our nature. We’re so healthy a culture, relatively speaking, that we're still confounded by what’s going on around us. We need to look to the good for the good and judge evil belief systems as just that. Jihad, holy war against all non-Muslims, [no matter WHAT Muslims would tell you about it being a ‘spiritual journey’,] is the heart of Islam, and without it, Islam’s dead. One Cannot moderate evil. It’s no longer up to Muslims to ‘reform’ Islam, we’ve seen that they’re not morally up to even considering the prospect of it. There’s only the possibility of absolute moral transformation, of a moral revolution of Islam by Muslims. But I don’t think they will do so without the entire world Forcing them to do so. Again, there is NO mass movement of Muslims who are looking to morally transform Islam, the very notion of it offends them.
For our own good, the end game of this jihad, the time when we are forced to choose between us or them, [a day which Will come] is massive destruction of terrorist countries to the point where the Muslim world has NO choice but to join civilization once and for all. To the point where they stop looking at the world as the enemy and see that it’s been Islam all along that’s made their lives hell.
I can go on here, may have went on some tangents, but we are in such deep shit with our sheer gutlessness as a culture in simply seeing the truth about the enemy that I fear it will take another devastating attack for us to see the truth and act on it, even if the actors are wretched politicians. But they will have no choice.
at September 19, 2007 12:23 PM
Great job, Bosch.
"...you dont have to look no further than us Muslims because we will easily destroy you. :)"
Ohhhh, how very scary!
Posted by: Rachel at September 19, 2007 12:25 PM
staff_of_magius,
Thanks, I had to make the connection with the icon of evil. And Sayyid Qutb also had a similar mustache.
And I gave SuperJihad a prayer mark on his forehead, earned through HARD praying. If you notice, I made it resemble a crescent.
at September 19, 2007 12:27 PM
Moderate Muslim sami-zaatari@hotmail.com said
you are in a never ending losing war and you will be thrown into hell when its all said and done. backward infidel, thats all you are.
He forgot to end with "Peace be upon you".
Posted by: special_guest at September 19, 2007 12:36 PM
I will be buying it for kids.
And Sami-zaatari, thank you. Thank you from the bottom of my heart when you said 'please continue doing it (cartoons that mock islam and muslims)'.
We really do appreciate getting your permission.
OK....start the presses. And lets hope that the 'backfiring' that Sami brings to our attention will start real soon.
Posted by: alaskan1000 at September 19, 2007 1:02 PM
"feel the love"...or is it "feel the burn"?
lol
at September 19, 2007 1:21 PM
"we will easily destroy you. :)"....from headline.
A smiley face -- how cute. Doesn't he know that good always conquers evil. In the end, we'll be the ones smiling :)
Posted by: champ at September 19, 2007 1:36 PM
Sami Zaatari sure did a lot of projecting: scum, wars, hate crimes, being thrown into hell, BACKWARDS!
I could swear that he was talking about Islam.
Posted by: champ
at September 19, 2007 1:54 PM
Bless you, Bosch. Gates of Vienna has also begun to push the cartoonists' war. You are in the front lines....way ahead of the rest of us!
Posted by: Jauhara Al-Kafirah at September 19, 2007 2:17 PM
BOSCH: "...I fear it will take another devastating attack for us to see the truth and act on it..."
One hears this frequently. Why is there an assumption that we will learn lessons after a second attack that we've refused to learn after the first?
Posted by: Cornelius at September 19, 2007 2:20 PM
Bosch Fawstin,
Thank you for your reply. Are you saying that there are "moderate moslems" and the quaran cannot be reformed? Are you saying that everybody should treat moslems as innocent until they blow something up? What about the many other aspects of jihad (giving money to covert jihad groups, changing our laws legally to introduce sharia, dawa, aiding and abetting terrorists or terrorist organizations, tiqqay (sic) or kitman, etc.)?
And, with all due respect (and please don't answer this one, if you do not feel comfortable doing so, but you didn't answer my most important questions-this will help me understand exactly where you are coming from: Are you an apostate? How does your family feel about this (if you are an apostate)? Answering these questions will help me figure out if you're doing this (the cartoons, etc.) 100% out in the open, or if you have to hide from your family (under a fakename, etc.) Plus it will give me great insight as to how you view the quaran and other moslems, etc.
Or are you a moslem who can follow part of the quaran, while refusing to follow the parts of it that doesn't suit you. Do most moslems follow the whole quaran, or just parts of it? Do most moslems consider the quaran the irrefutable word of allah-or just inspired text?
I think you are doing a great job in fighting against jihad, but these questions are just nagging the hell out me. lol
Posted by: mrockroll1969 at September 19, 2007 2:35 PM
Cornelius,
'BOSCH: "...I fear it will take another devastating attack for us to see the truth and act on it..."
One hears this frequently. Why is there an assumption that we will learn lessons after a second attack that we've refused to learn after the first?'
Because, like WE are always accused of 'creating jihadists' by our critical WORDS, every major terrorist attack that the enemy gets through creates more counter-jihadists. It's the 'Education by Murder' idea that Pipes termed. I sense a Real, growing intolerance for Islam and Muslims around me. And Muslims will continue creating more counter-jihadists by simply being true to Islam.
More of us are wise to Islam and its true believers after 9/11. Far more of us will be 'created' by another attack. To the point where even planet Washington will be led to do what needs to be done.
at September 19, 2007 2:42 PM
Bosch,
I pray that you are right. Not about the attack but about our mindset changing. I think we did have more of the mindset right after 9-11 but time has made us forget. Just look at Bush in 2001 to now. He is a totally different person today.
Posted by: Elric66 at September 19, 2007 3:01 PM
Backward infidel? Would that be:
?ledifni or ?nitswaF hcsoB or !uoy kcuF
at September 19, 2007 3:04 PM
Does PigMan come with a super cape made of pork rind covering his "canadian bacon"?
(/sarc)
PS-(joking reference to the cut position of the meat-no disparagement towards Canadians meant here).
Posted by: jcom972 at September 19, 2007 3:10 PM
jcom972,
lol
"OINK if you've JIHADIT!"-lol. This one is still my favorite. hehehe
Posted by: mrockroll1969 at September 19, 2007 3:13 PM
Pigman IMHO should have a canine sidekick
Posted by: Elric66 at September 19, 2007 3:22 PM
this was all news to me, and very interesting - Bosch Fawstin, original graphic artist, brave man.
Posted by: M Al-Content at September 19, 2007 3:28 PM
mrockroll,
(snickering under my breath) "wiseass"!
LOL ^5s man.
at September 19, 2007 3:32 PM
Eric66 wrote
I pray that you are right. Not about the attack but about our mindset changing. I think we did have more of the mindset right after 9-11 but time has made us forget. Just look at Bush in 2001 to now. He is a totally different person today.
Nah, Eric. I just think that those folks here who will always blame America for whatever happens were just momentarily speechless. It didn't take them long to get back on track. As to George, he was clueless at the start "Islam is a religion of peace" and I think he's still clueless.
Posted by: Rick at September 19, 2007 3:36 PM
Rick,
I agree with you. There was a lot of anti-americanism before 911.
As for bush...words cannot even describe his contemptable actions of going into a war without knowing the enemy (war 101). Muslems don't want democracy; Non of them are our ally; And we can't baby sit them forever.
at September 19, 2007 3:48 PM
I give Bosch two thumbs way up! This comic has my full endorsement. Especially , since its creator is an ex-Muslim.
Not only is the character original, Bosch's artwork is excellent, high quality product.
I have always been interested in superhero/antihero comics and graphic novels. I am somewhat of an artist myself. Frank Miller has competition!
Keep up the good fight Bosch. I will promote your site, purchase you gear and keep watching for updates.
I will buy some shirts for my kids and one for me to wear to the gym. We have a bunch of jihadis there! Beard and burkha crowd you know.
I've jihadit!
Very cool!
Posted by: detocquevilledisciple at September 19, 2007 4:02 PM
Rick,
You will always have the anti American Americans. As the great one Kyle on South Park said, "25 percent of Americans are retarded"
I really cant blame Bush for not fully undertanding Islam after 9-11. But after 6 years and daily jihad around the word, he has no excuse.
at September 19, 2007 4:10 PM
oh, you can feel the love from sami.
Posted by: callmeinfidel at September 19, 2007 4:39 PM
Bosch Fawstin,
And THANK-YOU for coming to JW/DW today. Hope to see more of you excellent comic book artwork. Bookmarked your website.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at September 19, 2007 5:22 PM
Did a detect a shudder in the jihad? The cartoonists are fighting back.........
Posted by: tanstaafl at September 19, 2007 5:52 PM
I just bought the America akbar sweatshirt,how sweet is that?
"Holy bacon strips Pig Man superjihad just struck again;"
Pow
wack
wammy
zoink
Baaaam!
"Not to worry Democracy is on our side,superjihad has no chance. America akbar!"
Posted by: Dar al-harb at September 19, 2007 5:53 PM
Bosch: Thank-you, Thank-you, Thank-you...I am SO-O-O in need of a hero, especially one that's actually got a clue.
[I'm growing weary watching "Batman Begins" over and over, though the music is top notch.]
As I was reading "Religion of Peace?" today [can't remember the author's name] got to thinking "The Call" would be a good name for a book, or similar, and what do I find online, not four hours later? Your 'Infidel.' Thanks in advance for your clever slogans; bold, graphic designs; and your willingness to put the Truth first.
Posted by: wholebrainer at September 19, 2007 6:07 PM
Hi bosch fawstin (gotta ask - is 'bosch' a pseudonym tribute to the great high medieval artist, Hieronymus Bosch?).
Good on ya mate.
Now, how 'bout a drop-dead-gorgeous female antisharia sidekick for Pigman? Modelled on Ayaan Hirsi Ali or Taslima Nasreen. Name her Asma, after the poetess that was murdered by Mohammed's orders.
She swoops in and rescues girls from stonings and honor killings...and in a flash like lightning she whips the clothes off the would-be murderers and dumps them in the village square with their underpants on their heads and their turbans or their keffiyahs round their ankles.
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy
at September 19, 2007 6:12 PM
"backward infidel, thats all you are."
Ressentiment. Scheler. Caliban Upon Prospero. You taught me language, etc...
at September 19, 2007 6:18 PM
Folks, graphic novels are not necessarily for children or even adolescents. Some famous graphic novels have been as sophisticated as any adult novel, and have sold entirely to adults normally not the least interested in "comic books." Remember Persepolis, for example, or Maus -- both best sellers entirely to adults, with themes only adults could really appreciate.
I wonder what age Bosch Fawstin's target audience will be...
Posted by: traeh at September 19, 2007 6:19 PM
'Does PigMan celebrate Hamadan?'
'ALLAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!'
-Pigman
Posted by: Bosch Fawstin at September 19, 2007 6:35 PM
I see Bosch F. is a fan of Mr. "Never surrender!" Churchill.
We'll need a battalion of Winstons and Boschs before this Faux Phony War is made to end.
And the actual War Declared on Freedom-Loving Humanity By Imperialistic Islam is engaged.
The Resistance to Jihad needs every artform it can muster to tell its side of the story, since Islam's pre-emptive goal is to gouge out and deafen and destroy the (by-Islamic-terror-paralyzed) Arts.
With the Arts as a potency for enlightenment why would we close off any path to greater human self-awareness and development?
Islam's hysterical "iconoclasm" is more self-castration than true sacrificial humility.
And its blindness scars down to the soul.
We challenge this militant shadow with simple light.
And with music. And drawing. And theater.
B>And divine mockery.
For the joyless Cargo Cult that is '72 Virgins' Islam.
Meanwhile, Mr. Bosch F., thanks for the work, and you will now need that latest Western artist's accessory: Kevlar.
Wear it in good health to outlast this tyranny!
at September 19, 2007 6:49 PM
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106
'Will this appear on either DC or Marvel Comics? If this is the case, they better be ready for any possible trouble.'
Marvel and DC are still pretending that there's no jihad against the civilized world. They're opting for metaphors which are completely missing the point and of course, targeting America. For me, there's no time for metaphor in a time of war. There's no substitute to seeing this Particular Islamic enemy get it in as ruthless a way as they give it.
For companies that were built on the battle between good and evil, the only battle they're fighting now is to see which one of them can fight reality more.
Frank Miller's been talking about a Batman vs al Qaeda comic book these past few years. If anyone can get that past DC, it's him.
at September 19, 2007 6:53 PM
Congratulations, my friend! It is SO GOOD to hear others echoing my long-held appreciation for your art. There is definitely a void in the comics industry in terms of discussing terrorism and its origins. This will fill that need perfectly. It's going to be GREAT! You are indeed a master of the medium, and I eagerly await The Infidel: Chapter One.
Best to you always, Bosch.
Mike
at September 19, 2007 6:57 PM
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106
'Will this appear on either DC or Marvel Comics? If this is the case, they better be ready for any possible trouble.'
Marvel and DC are still pretending that there's no jihad against the civilized world. They're opting for metaphors which are completely missing the point and of course, targeting America. For me, there's no time for metaphor in a time of war. There's no substitute to seeing this Particular Islamic enemy get it in as ruthless a way as they give it.
For companies that were built on the battle between good and evil, the only battle they're fighting now is to see which one of them can fight reality more.
Frank Miller's been talking about a Batman vs al Qaeda comic book these past few years. If anyone can get that past DC, it's him.
at September 19, 2007 7:09 PM
mrockroll1969,
I’m going to answer each of your questions, with your words in quotes:
‘Thank you for your reply. Are you saying that there are "moderate moslems" and the quaran cannot be reformed?’
Yes, of course there are ‘moderate’ Muslims even if they purport to follow an extreme religion. They’re Hack Muslims, though I wouldn’t have them be any other way.
No, the Koran cannot be ‘reformed’, just as evil cannot be reformed. I don’t write this lightly. A book that is sold as the verbatim word of allah cannot be changed. Mohammed really locked it up for Muslims with that one. And I don’t see the out of context ‘good’ in the Koran as a way to say ‘Well, not ALL of it is bad’. The small minority of ‘good’ in it seems like it’s only there to moderate the dominant bad, which it can’t. A book that literally calls for the subjugation and death of ALL of those outside of its control is Evil and we have to get used to thinking that and then saying it openly.
On ‘Moderate’ Muslims: What do you suppose these ‘peaceful’, ‘moderate’, inactive Muslims will do if Islam takes over? Fight the Jihad to the death? Hell no. They’re Far too moderate for that. They’ll do the same thing they’re doing now against the Jihad. Nothing.
‘Are you saying that everybody should treat moslems as innocent until they blow something up?’
Most Muslims are innocent of Islam in a real sense. Most of them really don’t follow their religion. But their silence and inaction against Jihad has made us suspicious of them. It is They who have made Us, a tolerant culture, think twice when we see them around us. And their pretense that they can remain silent against jihad is going to hurt them very badly as a whole when it comes to getting the ‘respect’ they so desperately want but haven’t earned. I’m speaking about the Muslim ‘community’ as a whole, not as individuals.
‘What about the many other aspects of jihad (giving money to covert jihad groups, changing our laws legally to introduce sharia, dawa, aiding and abetting terrorists or terrorist organizations, tiqqay (sic) or kitman, etc.)?’
They have to be stopped and fought Every inch of the way by those who claim to be our protectors.
‘And, with all due respect (and please don't answer this one, if you do not feel comfortable doing so, but you didn't answer my most important questions-this will help me understand exactly where you are coming from: Are you an apostate?’
According to Islam, I’m an apostate, for I rejected the 'gift' of being born Muslim. To me, I was merely born into a Muslim family and was fortunately raised by relatively lax Muslims who observed certain prohibitions and followed certain traditions of Islam. No doubt, there were the ‘atmospherics’ of Islam that Hugh Fitzgerald writes about that had their effect on us in detrimental ways, such as idea that women were a necessary evil who only exist to have male babies, the idea that Jews were innately bad, the family mourning when a girl in the family is born, etc.
‘How does your family feel about this (if you are an apostate)? Answering these questions will help me figure out if you're doing this (the cartoons, etc.) 100% out in the open, or if you have to hide from your family (under a fakename, etc.) Plus it will give me great insight as to how you view the quaran and other moslems, etc.’
I sense that my family isn’t enthusiastic about The Infidel to say the least, but they haven’t really told me what they think of it and I haven’t asked. I don’t get out much.
‘Or are you a moslem who can follow part of the quaran, while refusing to follow the parts of it that doesn't suit you. Do most moslems follow the whole quaran, or just parts of it? Do most moslems consider the quaran the irrefutable word of allah-or just inspired text?’
I am not a Muslim now and I couldn’t be. Most Muslims pick and choose from the Koran as most people do of their religions. The thing about Islam, though, is that some Muslims can follow the ‘Meccan Koran’ and some Muslims can follow the ‘Medina Koran’, as if there Are such things, but you might know what I mean. Mohammed spent 13 years preaching Islam without great success in Mecca. Then he crossed the line and all of a sudden people were dropping like flies for Islam.
‘I think you are doing a great job in fighting against jihad, but these questions are just nagging the hell out me. Lol’
Thank You.
at September 19, 2007 7:56 PM
mrockroll1969,
I’m going to answer each of your questions, with your words in quotes:
‘Thank you for your reply. Are you saying that there are "moderate moslems" and the quaran cannot be reformed?’
Yes, of course there are ‘moderate’ Muslims even if they purport to follow an extreme religion. They’re Hack Muslims, though I wouldn’t have them be any other way.
No, the Koran cannot be ‘reformed’, just as evil cannot be reformed. I don’t write this lightly. A book that is sold as the verbatim word of allah cannot be changed. Mohammed really locked it up for Muslims with that one. And I don’t see the out of context ‘good’ in the Koran as a way to say ‘Well, not ALL of it is bad’. The small minority of ‘good’ in it seems like it’s only there to moderate the dominant bad, which it can’t. A book that literally calls for the subjugation and death of ALL of those outside of its control is Evil and we have to get used to thinking that and then saying it openly.
On ‘Moderate’ Muslims: What do you suppose these ‘peaceful’, ‘moderate’, inactive Muslims will do if Islam takes over? Fight the Jihad to the death? Hell no. They’re Far too moderate for that. They’ll do the same thing they’re doing now against the Jihad. Nothing.
‘Are you saying that everybody should treat moslems as innocent until they blow something up?’
Most Muslims are innocent of Islam in a real sense. Most of them really don’t follow their religion. But their silence and inaction against Jihad has made us suspicious of them. It is They who have made Us, a tolerant culture, think twice when we see them around us. And their pretense that they can remain silent against jihad is going to hurt them very badly as a whole when it comes to getting the ‘respect’ they so desperately want but haven’t earned. I’m speaking about the Muslim ‘community’ as a whole, not as individuals.
‘What about the many other aspects of jihad (giving money to covert jihad groups, changing our laws legally to introduce sharia, dawa, aiding and abetting terrorists or terrorist organizations, tiqqay (sic) or kitman, etc.)?’
They have to be stopped and fought Every inch of the way by those who claim to be our protectors.
‘And, with all due respect (and please don't answer this one, if you do not feel comfortable doing so, but you didn't answer my most important questions-this will help me understand exactly where you are coming from: Are you an apostate?’
According to Islam, I’m an apostate, for I rejected the 'gift' of being born Muslim. To me, I was merely born into a Muslim family and was fortunately raised by relatively lax Muslims who observed certain prohibitions and followed certain traditions of Islam. No doubt, there were the ‘atmospherics’ of Islam that Hugh Fitzgerald writes about that had their effect on us in detrimental ways, such as idea that women were a necessary evil who only exist to have male babies, the idea that Jews were innately bad, the family mourning when a girl in the family is born, etc.
‘How does your family feel about this (if you are an apostate)? Answering these questions will help me figure out if you're doing this (the cartoons, etc.) 100% out in the open, or if you have to hide from your family (under a fakename, etc.) Plus it will give me great insight as to how you view the quaran and other moslems, etc.’
I sense that my family isn’t enthusiastic about The Infidel to say the least, but they haven’t really told me what they think of it and I haven’t asked. I don’t get out much.
‘Or are you a moslem who can follow part of the quaran, while refusing to follow the parts of it that doesn't suit you. Do most moslems follow the whole quaran, or just parts of it? Do most moslems consider the quaran the irrefutable word of allah-or just inspired text?’
I am not a Muslim now and I couldn’t be. Most Muslims pick and choose from the Koran as most people do of their religions. The thing about Islam, though, is that some Muslims can follow the ‘Meccan Koran’ and some Muslims can follow the ‘Medina Koran’, as if there Are such things, but you might know what I mean. Mohammed spent 13 years preaching Islam without great success in Mecca. Then he crossed the line and all of a sudden people were dropping like flies for Islam.
‘I think you are doing a great job in fighting against jihad, but these questions are just nagging the hell out me. Lol’
Thank You.
at September 19, 2007 8:05 PM
Does PigMan come with a super cape made of pork rind covering his "canadian bacon"?
(/sarc)
PS-(joking reference to the cut position of the meat-no disparagement towards Canadians meant here).
jcom972
PIGOTRY!
Ahem.....
No cape, but about the flesh of swine....
Pigman's mask, gloves, belt and boots are made of pigskin leather, better to obstruct the jihadist's trip to paradise, [far as They're concerned].
Also, this Pigotry we see from Muslim's against pigs isn't really hatred but envy, envy that has everything to do with the fact that Pigs can orgasm for up to a half hour.
at September 19, 2007 8:08 PM
detocquevilledisciple,
bigcatgirl13106,
Dar al-harb,
Thank you for the encouragement, Much appreciated. It does get lonely at times doing what I do. Getting the reception I got today's given me a nice shot of much-needed, but unacknowledged, fuel.
Posted by: Bosch Fawstin at September 19, 2007 8:24 PM
Folks, graphic novels are not necessarily for children or even adolescents. Some famous graphic novels have been as sophisticated as any adult novel, and have sold entirely to adults normally not the least interested in "comic books." Remember Persepolis, for example, or Maus -- both best sellers entirely to adults, with themes only adults could really appreciate.
I wonder what age Bosch Fawstin's target audience will be...
-traeh
This is war. I can't refine it, and in war there are fighting words and so there will be profanity in the story. It's a choice, of course, but I want to say certain things that cannot be said any other way than hard and unforgiving. I don't intend to be gratuitous with it, but it's a hard story which I can't go soft on in any way.
at September 19, 2007 8:35 PM
Congratulations, my friend! It is SO GOOD to hear others echoing my long-held appreciation for your art. There is definitely a void in the comics industry in terms of discussing terrorism and its origins. This will fill that need perfectly. It's going to be GREAT! You are indeed a master of the medium, and I eagerly await The Infidel: Chapter One.
Best to you always, Bosch.
Mike
Great to see you here, Mike, and as always, Thanks for the support. I'll do my best to deliver the goods in The Infidel.
Posted by: Bosch Fawstin at September 19, 2007 8:41 PM
"Frank Miller's been talking about a Batman vs al Qaeda comic book these past few years. If anyone can get that past DC, it's him" - snippet of info from Bosch Fawstin, above.
Never mind about Batman - though since Gotham City is a sort of alternative world avatar of New York, it's an idea.
What I'D like to see is the creators of "Mr Walker, The Phantom, The Ghost Who Walks" turning The Phantom loose against the Jihad and its spin-doctors and financiers, in a whole series of stories. The reason being that The Phantom's primary raison d'etre is to fight PIRATES; and besides scientifically applied force he uses psy-ops bigtime to spook out his superstitious foes. And - his sidekick is "it's not a Dog - it's a Wolf". (Are Wolves considered Dogs, and therefore Unclean?).
Wouldn't I LOVE to see a Phantom comic in which The Phantom (plus wolf) goes in to rescue, say, a bunch of hostages. Or is flying incog as 'Mr Walker' when some jihad idiots try to hijack the plane...
Hey, anyone lurking here got a line in to the 'Phantom' franchise...are you listening? It's worth the risk. Tackle Islam, past and present, head on. The jihad. The de facto imposition of the hideous dhimmi rules on non-Muslim minorities. The extortion and drug running and de facto slave trading. Darfur and Southern Sudan and the Southern Philippines, Kashmir and Thailand - all the exotic places The Phantom comics have always used as backdrop. It's happening there. Through The Phantom, show us this stuff.
This is what the Phantom was created for! Remember the Barbary Pirates? Islam has been pirating since the beginning. It's the biggest pirate operation on the planet, way bigger than the Mafia or the Triads.
Via The Phantom the older generation, who grew up on him, can be reached and educated, plus the kids who are too young for the more 'adult' and complex graphic novels.
Posted by: dumbledoresarmy at September 19, 2007 9:09 PM
Great work Bosch! I sense that attitudes are changing toward islam and muslims, slowly but surely. How could they not, based solely upon the words and deeds of muslims?! More people have taken the time and trouble to learn for themselves what islam is all about and it ain't pretty! It is a daunting task to muddle through islamic canonical texts but it's worth the torment in the long run. Muslims will say that you cannot interpret the words, only islamic scholars are qualified to do that, but the words mean exactly what they say!
The idiots at the ACLU, CAIR, islamic apologists, muslims, and the multiculturalists will continue to deny the hideous and deadly implications of islam, but their efforts to hide the truth are futile. Muslims will continue to expose the true nature of islam better than any book or lecture; muslims are their own worst enemies.
Posted by: Susanp at September 19, 2007 11:11 PM
BOSCH: "Because, like WE are always accused of 'creating jihadists' by our critical WORDS, every major terrorist attack that the enemy gets through creates more counter-jihadists. It's the 'Education by Murder' idea that Pipes termed. I sense a Real, growing intolerance for Islam and Muslims around me. And Muslims will continue creating more counter-jihadists by simply being true to Islam.
More of us are wise to Islam and its true believers after 9/11. Far more of us will be 'created' by another attack. To the point where even planet Washington will be led to do what needs to be done."
RESPONSE: I hate to rain on your parade, but I'd like to point out that America is far more divided and polarized today than we were on Sept 10, 2001....the academic world is far more steeped in their apologia for Islam than they were on Sept 10, 2001....the international community is far more anti-American than it was on Sept 10, 2001...and all in spite of a whole plethera of Jihadist terror perpetrated since then (Bali I & II, Beslan, Madrid, Bombay, London, etc, etc, etc).
Might I further point out that the Iraq War has turned the American public against an aggressive foreign policy...and the dhimmicrats are poised to take the White House and Congress next year.
I'd say this state of affairs is hardly the sanguine picture you are drawing. Americans and the world will display a far greater propensity to blame our own government's policies for the next attack than they were after 9-11, when for a few short weeks, there was at least the veneer of national (and global) unity.
Sorry friend. I appreciate your attempts at cheer-leading, but we need a much more sober analysis.
Posted by: Cornelius at September 19, 2007 11:27 PM
Bosch:
You are a great American (or, I should say, a great human--and not to qualify, but merely to point out that there are great people all over the globe who love freedom and we should not consider this the sole privilege of the West.) You are but one person in the growing wave of people who are COURAGEOUSLY standing up for basic human rights in the face of this insidious "religion" that has so many of us looking at the moon all night trying to figure out how we preserve freedom while stamping out this ideology of Islam.
You were born into a Muslim family but saw the light and life around you and chose the right path, and for that you are to be commended and revered, for it is people like you who will convince other "peaceful" "Muslims" that it is alright to do the same. I truly believe that most Muslims are just people who want a j-o-b and a nice home and a chance to experience life as Nature gives it to them, among the community of humans.
But make no mistake. This is not an apology to "peaceful" Muslims. Peaceful Muslims (such as you, Bosch, once were) have an enormous task ahead of them. To separate themselves from the Islam that currently has the world by the throat, to undergo a meaninful Islamic Reformation (or just outright leave), and to assist freedom-loving peoples of the world in the destruction of the dogmatic Islam now dictating a culture of supremacy and hate to a vast portion of the peoples of the World.
Free people are peaceful people, tolerant to the point of madness at times in their defense of "the other," but the genesis of America is still rife with a rebel spirit that will make intelligent and righteous warfare against its enemies should our freedom come under duress.
Right on, Bosch. Well done. You are a courageous man.
at September 19, 2007 11:35 PM
Cornelius,
Let's both hope I'm right that we will come around in the moment of truth, for what's the alternative, cynicism termed as 'realism'?
As to your comments about my being 'sanguine' and 'cheer-leading', I'd say you're too down on The West for your own good. You sound almost bothered at the prospect of having confidence in ourselves, despite our many problems. And for the record, I was writing about what I think could happen if we get hit again, something you don't mention. I'm taking into consideration that The West is always slow to get going, but when it does, it drops Atomic Bombs on the enemies of peace who start wars. I believe that we Will do what needs to be done, and that's not false optimism, that's history, and it will repeat itself as it always does. The tragedy is that The Enemy will make We The People pay too high a price for our protectors to finally do what needs to be done. And that 'global unity' you speak of only existed while we were a victim who didn't hit back yet. Soon as we responded to the attacks we were no longer the victim and so condemned as an aggressor regardless of the fact of 9/11. To hell with those who piled on, they're good for nothing.
Buck up and see things as they are. It's too easy to see things as worse than they are.
at September 19, 2007 11:57 PM
JohnAdams,
What can I say but Thank You, means a Lot.
Posted by: Bosch Fawstin at September 20, 2007 12:01 AM
Bosch,
I hope to discover that Pigman is the Hero for our times, who--to borrow Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto's rueful metaphor after attacking Pearl Harbor--personifies the sleeping giant awakened and filled with a TERRIBLE RESOLVE. That's the hero we look for in dark times to stand up for us, the Hero I hope, expect is portrayed.
Posted by: John C at September 20, 2007 1:20 AM
What you're doing is thrilling, Bosch.
All the best to you
Voltaire
Posted by: Voltaire at September 20, 2007 1:54 AM
Bosch,
I hope to discover that Pigman is the Hero for our times, who--to borrow Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto's rueful metaphor after attacking Pearl Harbor--personifies the sleeping giant awakened and filled with a TERRIBLE RESOLVE. That's the hero we look for in dark times to stand up for us, the Hero I hope, expect is portrayed.
- John C
Well, John C, Pigman is definitely the personification of my ideal of what a Moral SuperPower Should do when attacked by ruthless savages. Pigman will do unto the enemy.....
Pigman bludgeons this idea that we become our enemy if we go too far. The enemy's gone far enough and we haven't even begun to fight against him the way he ought to be fought. Those who are so worried about becoming the enemy Will become the enemy when they find themselves on their knees as allah's slaves.
Pigman is seen as a terrible beast who does terrible things and no one has any idea of what he's going to do next, not the enemy, not their sympathizers nor the cowards among us.
Because this enemy has been counting on us to continue being as predictable as we are, Pigman doesn’t make sense to them. But of course, he makes Perfect sense to the rational who want justice for 9/11.
at September 20, 2007 2:12 AM
Voltaire and all the others who I didn't directly respond to, I have to tell you how very much I appreciate the words of encouragement and support. It's been a shot of fuel that I didn't know I needed until today. You've made my day and I can't wait to get that first issue out by late fall. I'm doing my damnedest to make sure I deliver the goods. This is the story I myself have been waiting for since 9/11.
Posted by: Bosch Fawstin at September 20, 2007 2:21 AM
BOSCH: "And that 'global unity' you speak of only existed while we were a victim who didn't hit back yet. Soon as we responded to the attacks we were no longer the victim and so condemned as an aggressor regardless of the fact of 9/11."
By far the most accurate comment you've offered up.
Meanwhile, I'm not irritated, not bothered, and not even cynical. Just realistic.
For the record, I like the idea of your comic book. It stretches the anti-Jihad into the cultural realm, where young minds in particular can be reached and influenced.
I simply disagree with your analysis. America is not only ideologically neutered...it is deeply and profoundly divided. Our enemies understand this and are exploiting the space it affords them. Compound this reality with demographics, and our prospects look poor indeed.
Posted by: Cornelius at September 20, 2007 7:29 AM
Bosch Fawstin -- I've really enjoyed reading your posts. Thank you for your contribution. You are a talented artist and I look forward to purchasing and reading your anti-jihad graphic novel.
Someone mentioned "Maus". Art Spiegelman also published a book about 9/11. I wanted to buy it when it was first out but couldn't afford it. Maybe one day I'll find it on sale somewhere.
http://www.amazon.com/Shadow-No-Towers-Art-Spiegelman/dp/0375423079
at September 20, 2007 8:52 AM
Bosch Fawstin
I have collected comics for over 20 years --mostly the mainstream DC and MARVEL. You are so right about these two companies pretending their is no such thing as jihad. Its hilarious.
Even CAPTAIN AMERICA after 9/11 early in his new series when he fought terrorits fought ones who were just 'generic' terrorits they werent muslims or jihadists. Thats very said since CAP was created to FIGHT FASCISM and was regularly depicted punching Hitler's face on the cover of his comics or beating the tar out of the nazis.
note the very FIRST issue of Captain America back in 1941 --Captain america and his sidekick busting thru a bunker where hitler and some SS guys are vailnly trying to fight him and the american soldiers back. THAT WAS ON THE FRONT COVER!
how come you dont see captain america after 9/11 smashing the face of some turban wearing jihadist or of bin laden himself or of the thug in cheif?
In the 1940s covers of many of the SUPERMAN comics and over at Marvel(Timely) SUBMARINER comics the hero was throwing MISSLES from the sky at NAZI SHIPS in the sea.
Why are there no covers today of spiderman throwing a nice big fat grenade at johnny jihad nervously fingering his the bomb controls strapped to his ass?
WHY ARE YOU MARVEL AND DC SUCH COWARDS TODAY??
Hmmm??
BOSCH you have the TRUE spirit of the golden age of comics running thru your blood. And you are more 'marvel' and 'dc' then them if you know what I mean.
PIGMAN IS MY HERO!!! YEEEEEEEEEEEEAHH!!
ISLAM = NAZISM
Im buying it --do you have a distributor. Did you manage to get those dimwits at Diamond to carry your excellent graphic novel?
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at September 20, 2007 4:12 PM
Bosch Fawstin
I have collected comics for over 20 years --mostly the mainstream DC and MARVEL. You are so right about these two companies pretending their is no such thing as jihad. Its hilarious.
Even CAPTAIN AMERICA after 9/11 early in his new series when he fought terrorits fought ones who were just 'generic' terrorits they werent muslims or jihadists. Thats very said since CAP was created to FIGHT FASCISM and was regularly depicted punching Hitler's face on the cover of his comics or beating the tar out of the nazis.
note the very FIRST issue of Captain America back in 1941 --Captain america and his sidekick busting thru a bunker where hitler and some SS guys are vailnly trying to fight him and the american soldiers back. THAT WAS ON THE FRONT COVER!
how come you dont see captain america after 9/11 smashing the face of some turban wearing jihadist or of bin laden himself or of the thug in cheif?
In the 1940s covers of many of the SUPERMAN comics and over at Marvel(Timely) SUBMARINER comics the hero was throwing MISSLES from the sky at NAZI SHIPS in the sea.
Why are there no covers today of spiderman throwing a nice big fat grenade at johnny jihad nervously fingering his the bomb controls strapped to his ass?
WHY ARE YOU MARVEL AND DC SUCH COWARDS TODAY??
Hmmm??
BOSCH you have the TRUE spirit of the golden age of comics running thru your blood. And you are more 'marvel' and 'dc' then them if you know what I mean.
PIGMAN IS MY HERO!!! YEEEEEEEEEEEEAHH!!
ISLAM = NAZISM
Im buying it --do you have a distributor. Did you manage to get those dimwits at Diamond to carry your excellent graphic novel?
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at September 20, 2007 4:13 PM
pardon my grammar and spelling Im tired and angry at the fools who sleep soundly while the good people are up and about fighting the good fight. plus I haven't had my coffe.
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at September 20, 2007 4:17 PM
To 'THE ALLIES SHALL WIN':
Appreciate the enthusiasm, I can't Imagine working on anything other than The Infidel/Pigman.
Right now, my agent didn't run from the idea of the story, which is a good sign. And a rep at Diamond actually appreciated my 'bucking the trend' as he put it, but that's just one rep. talking. I'm going one issue at a time, and when I get the first issue out I will continue working on it as my agent looks for a publisher. If no one touches it, I'll self-publish it chapter by chapter and collect it when it's done, the book's getting out there regardless.
Josephine,
Thanks for the good words. About Spiegelman, I haven't read his book but I have my suspicions about his perspective on it, likely one diametrically opposed to mine.
Posted by: Bosch Fawstin at September 20, 2007 7:25 PM
Bosch Fawstin -- I wish you success.
You've got a good point about Mr. Spiegelman. I don't know anything about his political views. The Maus books are brilliant.
Posted by: Josephine at September 20, 2007 9:49 PM
Bosch ditto that I want to also wish you success and please stay safe.
maybe your comic will not only insire fellow infidels who are buying CAIRS lies right now but even some moderate muslims (however from that camp I only hear the lonely call of the crickets).
Posted by: THE ALLIES SHALL WIN at September 21, 2007 1:44 PM
Bosch Fawstin, "Infidel" sounds really exciting. I am looking forward to the adventures of Pigman. I get a big kick out of your audacity--I'm not sure how many of your readers will initially get the relevance of naming your hero "Pigman". I also love the "Never Submit!", which is not just generic defiance, but refers to Muslim "submission" to Allah. Other details, such as "Super Jihad's" near-permanent prayer mark, his full beard and Hitler mustach, are great.
I'm an illustrator and graphic novelist myself, but haven't figured out yet how to use my work against the Jihad. Of course, wih your background as a former Muslim, you can bring all sorts of rich detail like the ones noted above.
By the way--I've never felt that the term "moderate Muslim" quite worked. I have never heard a better definition of a decent person born into Islam than this from your post above:
...from my experience, most Muslims are simply better than Islam....
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Posted by: bigcatgirl13106
'Will this appear on either DC or Marvel Comics? If this is the case, they better be ready for any possible trouble.'
Marvel and DC are still pretending that there's no jihad against the civilized world.
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Josephine wrote:
Someone mentioned "Maus". Art Spiegelman also published a book about 9/11. (In the Shadow of No Towers)
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So far, the comics' response to 9/11 and the global Jihad has been beyond disappointing. I have great respect for Art Spiegelman, and his graphic novel "Maus" about the Holocaust, was the first great defining book of the art form and still one of its greatest examples. If anyone is new to the genre, I always suggest they read "Maus" first.
But "In the Shadows of No Towers" is in many ways a troubling book. Spiegelman lives in New York, and his daughter's school was quite literally in the shadow of the twin towers. The passages about 9/11 itself, the fear and uncertainty, are very gripping. After that, though, it dissolves into a morass of obfusion and moral equivalency.
DC comics actually did put out a book about 9/11. Although nicely done and even moving in places, this is a very odd book. The superheroes are basically turned into "first responders", just like the real firefighters, cops and EMTs who tried to rescue the people in the towers. And, oddly--for those who have superpowers--they are no more effective. (In a way, I suppose, this is just as well--having an alternative universe where Superman blows out the jet fires, shores up the buildings and saves everybody might be even more painful).
The heroes spend a great deal of time berating themselves for not anticipating or preventing the attacks, and not being able to save everybody. I'm all for super-hero angst, but the whole thing renders the superheroes as impotent as everybody else. At a time when they should be inspiring, they are anything but.
Even worse than this, though, is that *no enemy is ever mentioned*. Superhero comics are based on the idea of good versus evil, and here the evil is never named. It's almost as though 9/11 were simply an especially awful accident or natural disaster.
"Infidel" sounds entirely different, and I look forward to reading it.
Bosch Fawstin is an Eisner Award nominee--for those not familiar, the Eisner is *the* big comics award--the Pulitzer of Graphic Novels.
Posted by: gravenimage at September 21, 2007 2:12 PM
gravenimage,
Thank you for your thoughts on 9/11/comics and generous words. Tried to link to what I assume is your site, linked to your name and couldn't, link being broken. If you want to correspond through email about all of this, or anyone else for that matter, email me at: fawstin@comcast.net
Best
Posted by: Bosch Fawstin at September 22, 2007 1:36 AM
gravenimage -- That's very interesting; thanks.
Posted by: Josephine at September 22, 2007 2:21 PM
Here's an interview I did with the Shire Network News, recorded on 9/11/07:
Posted by: Bosch Fawstin at September 24, 2007 4:00 PM
Bosch:
I've changed my mind...but it's OK, I'm a woman, so I can do that.
I was desperate for a hero these past few months, like I said up the list earlier, so had re-read the opening scenes of Vin Suprynowicz's 2005 tome, "The Black Arrow" [so horrendously wordy, but worth suffering through for the Hero and his philosophy]; watched "Batman Begins;" and started enjoying the 'Book One' portion of John Ringo's "Ghost" [but not able to get past the she-nanigans that Book Two started off with]; and was still left wanting.
But then, September 19th, enter "Pigman"...and my hopes revived. Now, I'm piggy-backing [!] onto your courage, and starting my own counter-jihad story "The Call" - set in a near-future, increasingly Dark-Ages-style America [2016-17].
It's told from the perspective of a woman in her mid-twenties - raised by ultra-liberals, back east - who is awakened horrifyingly to the fact that the "nutjobs" she'd worked against so energetically in high school, back in 'Bushitler's' second 'reign,' were right after all: living in the midst of an increasingly Islamified America is more than just a very bad thing, it's a very deadly and very unjust thing, as well.
Can our heroine get unwrapped from the bloody real world web the Islamofacists have spun to catch her? Can she find others quickly enough, with minds open enough to help her stay free? Are any of these others, along the way, brave enough and committed enough to 'walk the walk' with her, instead of just squawking the squawk amongst themselves? Will they help her take down at least some of the local political/judicial powers-that-be, and replace the sharia-flavored UN-justice too many have gotten used to with some good old fashioned red, white, and blue American justice?
So, at the ripe old age of 25, our heroine has finally answered "The Call." It's far different than the one most of her contemporaries answered. It is the first true struggle in her life, and it is certain to be her greatest. Will it be her last?
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So, I'm NOT going to read your "Infidel" after all [for awhile, anyway] because you've inspired me to make my own contribution to the artistic counter-jihad - after languishing all summer for want of inspiration. Thank you, Bosch, for inspiring, "The Call."
Sincerely,
wholebrainer
p.s. If any other authors need gun-related "fact checking," my dear husband James has offered his expertise to you as well [Oh, how it frosts him when writers' have folks flipping off safeties on Glocks & revolvers; pulling the trigger on empty semi-auto pistols; cocking their Glocks, etc.] Reach him at "extremist@verizon.net"
Posted by: wholebrainer at September 24, 2007 11:35 PM
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