Wow, such intense, those "internal spiritual struggles"...so much so they spill over into everyone else's space...amazingly strange, it is.
(/sarc)

Too bad the iranian munchkin can't do that spontaneously...out of the reach of anyone else, save his peers-most of the iranians would be saying "Thanks be to God" then, based on the intel coming out of iran he desperately tries to censor (recall google & gmail events recently), but now is well known...here in realityland, it's called "panic, squared".

lol

Posted by: jcom972 at September 22, 2007 2:22 AM

... and the French thought they could get on the good side of terorrists by pendering to Arafat. Feel muslim brotherhood yet, oui?

Posted by: Alert at September 22, 2007 2:59 AM

You got it...
then again, keeping in mind, most of that was "blaque jaques" chirac's doing and that of his socialist cadre` (yep, same ones who got caught red-handed breaking their own oil-for-food rules, & had the nerve to get pissed off at US for exposing it when we invaded Iraq & found out about the whole damned thing)...Sarkozy, such as he is, is obviously not part-n-parcel of that insanity...so far.
I do believe the French had enough of that "brotherhood" bullshit when they were rewarded with riots...it also cost the socialists the election.

Posted by: jcom972 at September 22, 2007 3:54 AM

Is this what Al Qaeda meant in its last message about targeting the infidels in North Africa etc.

And what will the West do in retaliation?

Increased immigration of muslims by making it easier for all relatives and friends to make it?

Increased social welfare support to muslims?

Allow at least one mosque, with an attached madarssa in any town, on demand, preferably with state subsidy?

Set up a separate sharia legal system for muslims, in keeping with its democratic ethos? Apostates from islam to be dealt with under the islamic law.

Introduce corporal punishment,incarceration, and worse for anyone criticising or ridiculing any aspect of islam.

That should certainly teach those muslims about multiculturalism and shame them into changing their jehadic outlook.

Posted by: Dunk at September 22, 2007 4:00 AM

French President Sarkowski wants to form a Mediterranean Union comprising all the countries having a Mediterranean coast with a roving presidency.

I think he has his head buried in Algerian sand

Posted by: Stephen Gash SIOE England at September 22, 2007 4:11 AM

Got a link/source?...I'd like to read up on that one.

Posted by: jcom972 at September 22, 2007 4:14 AM

"...French crusaders working on ... building the biggest dam."

Any comparison that may show the disadvantages of islam is a crusade for them. Thanks be to God, that jihadists see the glorious emptiness of muslim countries.

Posted by: Excommie at September 22, 2007 5:18 AM

Madame Bovary:
Apres l'ennui de cette deception, son coeur de noveau resta vide.

After the annoyance of this deception, her heart once again was empty.

Why is infidel love of Muslims always an unrequited love?

Posted by: David England at September 22, 2007 6:33 AM

This is a little of topic, but I just news about the MIT student that was arrested with the fake bomb at the airport. I wonder if she was a left wing nut showing radical solidarity with muslims. I think it would have been more classic if she wore a t-shirt that said "we are all palistineians," or something silly like that. She just seems like a clueless art fag.

Posted by: American_soldier at September 22, 2007 7:33 AM

THE West was still underestimating the evil of Islam, an influential Muslim thinker has warned, insisting that Australia and the US have been duped into believing there is a difference between the religion's moderate and radical interpretations.
On a two-week "under the radar" visit to Australia, Syrian-born Wafa Sultan secretly met both sides of federal politics and Jewish community leaders, warning them that all Muslims needed to be closely monitored in the West.

In an interview with The Australian, Dr Sultan -- who shot to recognition last year following an interview on al-Jazeera television in which she attacked Islam and the prophet Mohammed -- said Muslims were "brainwashed" from an early age to believe Western values were evil and that the world would one day come under the control of Sharia law. The US-based psychiatrist -- who has two fatwas (religious rulings) issued against her to be killed -- warned that Muslims would continue to exploit freedom of speech in the West to spread their "hate" and attack their adopted countries, until the Western mind grasped the magnitude of the Islamic threat. "You're fighting someone who is willing to die," Dr Sultan told The Australian in an Arabic and English interview. "So you have to understand this mentality and find ways to face it. (As a Muslim) your mission on this earth is to fight for Islam and to kill or to be killed. You're here for only a short life and once you kill a kafir, or a non-believer, soon you're going to be united with your God."
http://ummahnewslinks.com/2007/08/20/warning-to-west-on-evil-of-islam.aspx

Posted by: storagemanager at September 22, 2007 7:50 AM

Why would AQ attack France? France never sent troops to Iraq.

/sarc

Posted by: Elric66 at September 22, 2007 7:56 AM

I guess if Sego had won the attack would not have taken place. Message to French voters: Elect conservatives and we'll kill you.
Hey, it worked in Spain.

Posted by: jewdog at September 22, 2007 8:00 AM

jewdog,

Did you just explain the connection between the Jihadist and the Socialist?

How well put, that a vote for a Sociialist is a vote for Islamification of your country.

Posted by: senor doeboy at September 22, 2007 9:00 AM

If Sego had become president, attacks would happen anyway, only the French response would be different. But then, you knew that.

Posted by: Minority of One at September 22, 2007 9:00 AM

"Why would AQ attack France? France never sent troops to Iraq.
/sarc
Posted by: Elric66 "

......in fact, France did just the opposite, the following news item is from 2003....

AGHDAD, Iraq — France gave Saddam Hussein (search)'s regime regular reports on its dealings with American officials, documents unearthed in the wreckage of the Iraqi foreign ministry have revealed.

...it appear France in one way or the other colluded with the Muslims to fight the Americans...

...France has aided the Islami Jihad in many ways...only to discover the Muslims intend to dominate and eventually force the French people to convert or die....

....France has had Muslim riots, Muslim crime rates soaring, many instances of French/Muslim conflict....not to exclude the Muslim hatred of anything French in north Africa and elsewhere...

....perhaps one day the government and the people of France will open their eyes and see Islam for what it truely is....and then they must Ban Muslim Immigration...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at September 22, 2007 9:28 AM

Great comment Robert - feel the love - subtle and on target.

And who thought six years ago that blind, arrogant France would acknowledge that they might have a problem.

Posted by: dgene at September 22, 2007 9:32 AM

Algeria is one of the worst s*#tholes in Muhammadania.

They kill you there just for being non-muslim. I think they prety much wiped out anything else that ever existed there, and nothing other than Islam (besides overbreeding) grows there. A mental desert,

It is an outrage that we still allow people from such a place to infiltrate our countries, because they come not to leave their Islamic desert hole behind, but to make us Islamic.

Pope rage happening again:

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/09/22/pope-blasts-islam-over-converts-dhimmis-treatment-of-iraqs-christians/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at September 22, 2007 9:34 AM

doeboy - I'd say that a vote for socialism is a vote for increased Islamic immigration and accomodation of the economic and social needs of Muslims. Ultimately, that will mean Islamification. In the interim, life for non-Muslims will become increasingly insecure. Lebanon is the model: Another anti-Syrian politician was just assassinated there, helping to ensure a solid pro-Syrian, pro-Hezbollah, pro-Iranian takeover by "democratic" means. Soon, Lebanon will be Syria.
As for Algeria, the French should recolonize it and expel the Muslims. Let them live in the desert where they belong. Where's the counter-jihad?

Posted by: jewdog at September 22, 2007 10:09 AM

jewdog,

I will assume that your suggestion of a recolonization of Algeria is a bit of hyperbole meant only to stimulate discussion. Not that it is such a bad idea, on the face of it; utterly unrealistic, of course, but one can dream. I reckon a large proportion of Algeria's population would welcome the change, and would not have a big problem with a few cathedrals and synagogues popping up here and there.

Socialists do tend to pander to any new population that they can import and then hook on government largesse. We see that a lot in Canada, and the Dems in the US seem intent on countering their demographic collapse (due, in part, to their habit of aborting their own babies) with a replacement dependent population from Latin America.

Importing a new population that is hell bent on destruction of its host country is another issue as you point out, and Lebanon is, indeed, the most obvious model.

For those of us brought up and brain-washed in the liberal West, in the second half of the previous century, it is difficult effort to admit that not all cultures are equal, and that some are, in fact, our sworn enemies.

Mr. Spencer is helping with that effort.

Posted by: Minority of One at September 22, 2007 10:23 AM

Bishops/Nuns/Monks---- feeling the love in Algeria

http://www.dacb.org/stories/algeria/claverie_pierre.html

Posted by: Charles Martel at September 22, 2007 10:32 AM

French Algeria had a thriving economy. The French gave Algeria a quality system of railroads, transport, highways, irrigation projects and immensely improved systems of agriculture, posts, busy ports and a LOT of schools including universities training Muslim Algerian doctors and other professionals.

Of course there was racism and injustice ( when and where isn't there!) but the benefits of Algeria being 'a department of France' and not just some exploited colony were so tremendous to the Algerians that we can only marvel at what they threw away. And for France's sake (with the new rise of Islam) thank God they did!

Posted by: poetcomic1 at September 22, 2007 11:33 AM

Western scholars like John Cooley emphasize that Islamist terrorism in Algeria was only aggravated and taken to extremes by the Algerian Afghanis who had fought in Afghanistan. Its roots, however, can be traced back to 1830 when Algeria became a French colony. As part of a deliberate policy to devalue and discredit the Islamic basis of Algerian society, French citizenship was offered to all those Algerians who removed themselves from the jurisdiction of Islamic Sharia law.

Although few took up the offer, it led to a situation where all those Algerians with a liberal European education were looked on with suspicion and mistrust by the larger Muslim community and especially the ulema and religious intellectuals. The mistrust persisted even when the liberals spearheaded Algeria's fight for independence from France, 1954-62.

After independence, Islamism began to grow steadily especially in religious schools and mosques in Algiers, Oran, Constantine, and Medea. These cities soon became centres of militant Islamic thought. Medea, for instance, in 1994 was the centre of guerrilla operations.

The rise of the religious right was helped in no small measure by the failure of the government on many fronts. Socialist models in agricultural and industrial development did not measure up to expectations and the collapse of world oil prices in the mid 1980s threw thousands out of work and fueled public discontent. Unrest took a violent turn in October 1988 and it was around this time that sermons were heard inciting Algerians to learn from the Afghan jihad, cleanse society and politics of the corruption of the ruling FLN party and prepare for God's kingdom on earth.

http://www.stratmag.com/issueFeb-1/page05.htm

Posted by: Johnathan at September 22, 2007 12:01 PM

Eagle Says:
September 21st, 2007 at 8:38 pm
Go back to JW or DW and enjoy your back slap with the rest of them. I am not going to tolerate the same old crap over and over and over again.

That is just the way I feel about it. How much of this do you think I should put up with??

Seriously, I’ve had it with those websites and the people that are on them. When I look at the type of people, based on their own comments, that frequent those websites, they are not the kind of people I would want as my friend. Much less take life lessons from, or any lesson for that matter except on how NOT to behave.

RADICAL Islam sucks, it’s bad, it wants to do some really bad stuff to people that don’t want it done to them. THAT INCLUDES TO MUSLIMS. I know that is hard to swallow but it doesn’t change the fact that Muslims are the number one target of RADICAL Islam.

The US has some great, devout Muslim guys that serve in our military that fight the radicals. Just like those in the Military of Iraq. They are fighting the radicals too. But they aren’t ‘true’ or ‘real’ or ‘devout’ Muslims, right???

No, they are wrong, I am wrong, EEEVVVRRRRYYYYBODY is wrong except for a few non-Muslims.

http://eaglespearlsofwisdom.wordpress.com/2007/09/21/my-personal-belief-and-declaration/#comment-1288

Posted by: Elric66 at September 22, 2007 12:35 PM

"When Charles De Gaulle granted independance to Algeria many years ago, he obviously thought that he would appease the Muslims."

Posted by: The Resistance

....throughout history, others have tried to appease Muslims only to later be annihilated and erase forever from the lands they once owned and lived on....

....The Islamic Jihad continues today around the globe....be they loud Muslims or be they quiet Muslims.....Muslims seek to take what is yours and to eliminate you...

Ban Muslim Immigration NOW....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at September 22, 2007 12:39 PM

Appeasement never works. It only encourages the same type of behavior for it is proven to have worked.

Posted by: Elric66 at September 22, 2007 12:45 PM

@Minority of One

You wrote:

"Dems in the US seem intent on countering their demographic collapse (due, in part, to their habit of aborting their own babies) with a replacement dependent population from Latin America."

This is one of the ugliest things I have read in the comments section of JW. You're very smug, aren't you?

Just because American women have stepped out of their former broodmare role, this does not indicate that they are resorting to abortion as a form of birth control.

You believe abortion is a habit? That's disgusting and more offensive than I can say.

Posted by: Abscedere at September 22, 2007 12:55 PM

Abscedere

You don't honestly believe that babies are only aborted because of a health risk to the mother do you?

Conservatives have tried to limit abortions to only being available when the mother's health is at risk, but pro-abortion groups are opposed to these efforts. So it seems obvious to me that atleast some people are using abortion has a form of birth control.

Also the fertility rate in blue states is lower then in red states, so @Minority of One might have a point. Whatever the reason democratic voters are having fewer babies.

Posted by: GuitarBob at September 22, 2007 1:22 PM

American_soldier

I can't believe what people try to pass off has art anymore.

You ever wonder if the word "artist" is just a new PC term for the mentally ill?

Posted by: GuitarBob at September 22, 2007 1:25 PM

They kill because they worship a (false) god that inspires them to eradicate anyone who doesn't bow to their god. The majority of muslims, including converts in prison, believe that this world is unclean because of resistance to submit to allah. So they have a duty, a purpose, a mission to set it right, by ANY means necessary. Infiltration, passivity to neutralize, and when power is gained, threats, authoritarianism, destruction. Wouldn't you, if you believed such things? Even muslims who don't are made to feel guilty for not stepping up or 'lacking faith'. France abandoned it's backbone long ago; they forgot what America did for them, or just don't care. Spain? Germany? Greece? Italy? Shall we say Poland, Hungary, Austria, Czech Bos or Herz? If England doesn't know what to do, how can any hope come from the entire EU?! That leaves Scandanavia, Canada, and Australia to do something! But muslims know they're powerless. So what stands in the way of allahs supremecy? Israel...and AMERICA. Show me ONE muslim that disagrees. (see?) God bless you all. Jesus Loves You. THAT'S the truth.

Posted by: coverit at September 22, 2007 2:13 PM

who is eagle? and what has he to do with this post?

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at September 22, 2007 2:24 PM

"Why would AQ attack France? France never sent troops to Iraq."

french troops are fighting the jihad in afganistan. iraq is incidental. plus france invaded algeria. the french have been on the front lines of islamic terror since the 50's.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at September 22, 2007 2:26 PM

abscedere,

if what i wrote is offensive to you, then too bad for you. really, too bad for you. if you are that easily offended, then i suggest you may wish to seek professional help. or curl up inside your cocoon and pretend the world is other than it is.

data make it very clear that abortions are much more common in blue states than in red states (you can find the data easily enough), and that birth rates are similarly higher in red states. make of it what you will, but the unavoidable fact is that socialists abort more babies that conservatives do. sorry to break the news.

frankly, i dont give a rat's rear end whether any woman may chose to have kids or not. that is called individual choice, and i am all for that.

you can't fight the a b c's of demographics baby. it's a cold, hard fact.

Posted by: Minority of One at September 22, 2007 2:31 PM

what the @#%& has abortion got to do with the french jihad?

please try and stay on topic and take your political differences to another forum.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at September 22, 2007 2:41 PM

****Who is Behind Ahmadinejad's Invitation to Columbia and meeting with Bush Critics??

http://fleetingperusal.blogspot.com/2007/09/gary-sick-ahmadinejads-best-pal.html

PLEASE WRITE YOUR LETTERS TO GARY SICK AND EXPRESS YOUR DISGUST

Posted by: serendip at September 22, 2007 2:48 PM

****Who is Behind Ahmadinejad Invitation to Columbia and meeting with Bush Critics??

http://fleetingperusal.blogspot.com/2007/09/gary-sick-ahmadinejads-best-pal.html

PLEASE WRITE YOUR LETTERS TO GARY SICK AND EXPRESS YOUR DISGUST

Posted by: serendip at September 22, 2007 2:48 PM

@Minority of One:

"if what i wrote is offensive to you, then too bad for you. really, too bad for you. if you are that easily offended, then i suggest you may wish to seek professional help. or curl up inside your cocoon and pretend the world is other than it is."

Thank you for your cool and reasoned response. No woman makes a so-called habit of abortion. It's certainly not a method of birth control. Birth control is making an effort not to conceive, in the first place.

What is offensive is your assertion that abortion is a habit.

"frankly, i dont give a rat's rear end whether any woman may chose to have kids or not."

Then why remark on abortion at all? Would it not have been more diplomatic to say that Americans are not reproducing as swiftly as other groups?

"that is called individual choice, and i am all for that."

There we agree.

"you can't fight the a b c's of demographics baby. it's a cold, hard fact."

Please do not call me "Baby". It's disrespectful.

Posted by: Abscedere at September 22, 2007 3:52 PM

Why cant I comment on the article above this regarding the parents and their terrorist son?

Is anyone else having trouble?

Posted by: Hungarian Crusader at September 22, 2007 3:54 PM

Hungarian Crusader,

Yep, dead link.

Appeasing muslims only amounts to getting bit, France is learning from their mistakes (hopefully they are learning). Will the rest of the world learn from Frances mistakes also?

Posted by: mrockroll1969 at September 22, 2007 3:57 PM

Elric,

I left a typical response on that creeps website, but dont think it will be posted.

I asked the same questions there as I did on that pig's site at Rachel's Tavern and it was deleted.

Dhimmis are bigger cowareds than I expected.

My simple question to EAGLE is where are all the protesting, marching, outraged,muslims everytime they are caught in an attempt to bomb or kill non-muslims???

Muslims never protest the killing of westerners.

They only protest security measures that are meant to protect people who DONT want to convert to issssslime.

If they are not all radical than why dont they help the western world to help forestall future attacks that are in the planning?

He has no answer, he only removes my comments.

Posted by: Hungarian Crusader at September 22, 2007 4:17 PM

(looking at the mess in this thread)

Ummm...what happened here?

Posted by: jcom972 at September 22, 2007 4:19 PM

Hungarian Crusader,

You're right. Eagle can't answer anybodies questions, so he/she just hits the delete button. It's, unfortuntately, a common thing for people to do now-a-days. It really is a sad state the world has become, when people refuse to find out the truth of things, instead, opting to hit the delete button and hide their heads in the sand, hoping everything will just blow over.

Posted by: mrockroll1969 at September 22, 2007 4:35 PM

Crusader...

link above is now open...just posted there.
Just an FYI for everyone.

Posted by: jcom972 at September 22, 2007 5:12 PM

How do I post a comment on Robert Spencers latest article? It's very revealing what the parents said about their 21 year-old son.Everyone should read it. (but when I try to post a comment, it gets blocked, this never happened before) ANYWAY, check out how the parents made a distinction between muslims and white people.

Posted by: coverit at September 22, 2007 5:31 PM

jcom972

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_Union

Posted by: Stephen Gash SIOE England at September 22, 2007 5:38 PM

Sarkozy has made Mistakes but at least is a better option than Jacques Chirac...What Europe
needs is another Charles Martel,urgently,desperately. If those fat, unelected Eurocats in Brussels keep on IGNORING
their voters who see the Danger on their streets-could end in a Blood Bath to make Balkans look like a Tea Party. In other words, Neo Nazis & Nationalists will rise to power-they've never really gone away-just waiting until conditions are ripe to repeat
'A Final Solution'.DEMOCRACY is a very fragile Institution & Politicians disregard the Will of the People-at their peril!

Posted by: Morgane at September 22, 2007 7:29 PM

mrockroll1969:
You're right. Eagle can't answer anybodies questions, so he/she just hits the delete button.

The web site is badly named. It should be one of

The blind leading the blind
Shared stupidity

Eagle does not bother with any research into Muslim sources. And he sure has not checked out Muslim history. And he seems to accept Muslim opinion at face value.

Heh heh.

Posted by: UK Infidel Lover at September 22, 2007 10:09 PM

abc, tough.

leon, if you're having trouble making the link, try starting with steyn's latest book. you might find a clue there.

Posted by: Minority of One at September 22, 2007 11:53 PM

We rescued them twice, we should not rescue them again. France, and Europe is on their own, they have created this problem themselves and through Sangatte they have imposed it on others. Let them fight their own way out of it or descend into the cesspit of Islam. The choice is theirs not ours, we should avoid the temptation of rescuing European countries from their own follies this time.

Posted by: IceDragon at September 23, 2007 5:06 AM

IceDragon

We're in the middle of a clash of civilizations, and it would nice if westerners could stop fighting with each other and unite against a common threat.

It's like the crusades all over again, and western nations have to give up petty squabbles and reconize that Jihad threatens all of us.

Posted by: GuitarBob at September 23, 2007 11:10 AM

I think that within two years we will see an abrupt change in philosophy that comes with a world wide blitz of attacks like we see in many European countries spreading into America, Canada.

The Mass media and politically correct types cannot keep a lid on the Internet, and that is where the real information is as is demonstrated on this site. If enough people `tune in` to their gut feelings, and maybe more people start seeing bumpers stickers like those on my truck saying `Defeat Jihad`, and `Outlaw Sharia`with pointers to web sites like this, then the tide will turn.

The Jihadists are getting braver, and the authorities are caving in making us all look weaker. The emboldens them and makes their efforts more substantial, and thus everyone who is anyone in the Ummah is going to want to be the `best` Muslim.

At some point Europe will have had enough, and the people will take control back from the mindless cowardly drones that run their countries.

This `they attack us and we are not allowed to criticize them or do anything about it` thing is unnatural and only time and providence will flesh out the self preservationism that lies forceably buried beneath the skin of Europeans.
Great upheaval is forthcoming and the politicians will find themselves facing Mussolini type retribution when that happens.

That is only my lowly opinion but I have great faith in Europeans to stand up for the right thing- and that is to not be annihilated by thugs in the name of Islam and protected by their throngs of their own in positions of authority.

I had a dream a few months back that it was 2012 and the world was ablaze.
I happened to mention this to a few people and one of them said the `Mayan` calendars did not go past 2012 unbeknownst to me.

Anyone else have that same feeling that within 5 years all bets are off(question mark).

I had a group of three fellows follow me for a couple of miles driving behind then beside me, one of them with a head wrap. when I finally looked over at them they were shaking their fists at me and scowling. I laughed and pointed at my head then at them, indicating I know what is going on. No trouble, but I believe at some point I am going to get a tongue lashing from one of the Ummah.

Posted by: HardBody at September 24, 2007 12:09 AM