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Has his on-again, off-again game been calculated to throw off protestors? "Iranian president to face protests in New York," from AFP (thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist):
NEW YORK (AFP) — Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was to face angry protests Sunday in New York, where he was due to arrive amid a storm of controversy over his appearances at the United Nations and a top university.The outspoken Iranian leader, who has openly called for the destruction of Israel and questioned the scale of the Holocaust, is due to speak at Columbia University on Monday, a day before addressing the UN General Assembly.
[...]
City politicians and Jewish groups have led opposition to Ahmadinejad's visit, with New York City council speaker Christine Quinn urging Columbia University to withdraw its invitation to the Iranian leader.
"Ahmadinejad is a Holocaust denier, here for one reason -- to spread his hate-mongering vitriol on the world stage," she said.
Protesters were due to rally at Columbia on Sunday and Monday against his address to the university, while Iranian opposition exiles were to demonstrate at the United Nations on Tuesday while Ahmadinejad addresses the world body.
Columbia's president Lee Bollinger, however, defended the university's decision to invite Ahmadinejad, saying that Columbia "as a community dedicated to learning and scholarship, is committed to confronting ideas."...
Except ones they don't like. When I get invited to speak at Columbia, you'll know that Columbia really is dedicated to learning and scholarship, and is committed to confronting ideas. When Ahmadinejad gets invited to speak to Columbia, it's just more of the same perspective that gets aired there every day.
What angered many New Yorkers more than anything was Ahmadinejad's plan to lay a wreath at Ground Zero -- the site of the September 11 attacks of 2001. New York City officials denied permission for the visit last week on security grounds.President George W. Bush offered support to city officials, saying: "I can understand why they would not want somebody running a country who is the state sponsor of terror down at the site."
Ahmadinejad appeared surprised by the storm over the wreath-laying, telling CBS television: "Why should it be insulting?" He said he would not insist on visiting the site if city officials could not arrange it.
But foreign ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini insisted a visit to Ground Zero was still on the itinerary.
"The visit to the site of the twin towers to pay tribute to the victims is part of president Ahmadinejad's program even if some people are trying to have it cancelled," he said....
Posted by Robert at September 24, 2007 7:44 AM
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Rumor has it that he is staying in Battery Park City, it is only a hop,skip & jump to G.Z. from there. Please Please let there be someone "waiting" for him.
Posted by: americanmadestrat
at September 24, 2007 8:09 AM
Maybe the wicked little dwarf should start with ‘paying his respects’ by laying a wreath to the millions who lost their lives at Auschwitz and elsewhere - anything else is a mockery of decency including setting foot on U.S. soil!
Posted by: descendantofacrusader
at September 24, 2007 8:10 AM
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Posted by: traeh
at September 24, 2007 8:21 AM
""The visit to the site of the twin towers to pay tribute to the victims ""
.....his "victims" were the hijackers....
Posted by: exsgtbrown
at September 24, 2007 8:31 AM
Throw a few rotten tomatoes at monkeyman at Columbia.
Do it for the Gipper.
OT see that sharia banks are trying to get approval in Canada. No doubt they will not funnel funds to terrorists or terorist groups. Steyn warned about the demographics years ago.
And the ToxicTimes, DurantyTimes, (aka NYTimes) are going free online. Will this save them from real and moral bankruptcy ?
Posted by: dgene
at September 24, 2007 8:32 AM
GET READY FOR IT
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article2512097.ece
Secret US air force team to perfect plan for Iran strike
Sarah Baxter, Washington
THE United States Air Force has set up a highly confidential strategic planning group tasked with “fighting the next war” as tensions rise with Iran.
Project Checkmate, a successor to the group that planned the 1991 Gulf War’s air campaign, was quietly reestablished at the Pentagon in June.
It reports directly to General Michael Moseley, the US Air Force chief, and consists of 20-30 top air force officers and defence and cyberspace experts with ready access to the White House, the CIA and other intelligence agencies.
The men planning America's next air war
Detailed contingency planning for a possible attack on Iran has been carried out for more than two years by Centcom (US central command), according to defence sources.
Checkmate’s job is to add a dash of brilliance to Air Force thinking by countering the military’s tendency to “fight the last war” and by providing innovative strategies for warfighting and assessing future needs for air, space and cyberwarfare.
It is led by Brigadier-General Lawrence “Stutz” Stutzriem, who is considered one of the brightest air force generals. He is assisted by Dr Lani Kass, a former Israeli military officer and expert on cyberwarfare.
The failure of United Nations sanctions to curtail Iran’s nuclear ambitions, which Tehran claims are peaceful, is giving rise to an intense debate about the likelihood of military strikes.
Bernard Kouchner, the French foreign minister, said last week that it was “necessary to prepare for the worst . . . and the worst is war”. He later qualified his remarks, saying he wanted to avoid that outcome.
France has joined America in pushing for a tough third sanctions resolution against Iran at the UN security council but is meeting strong resistance from China and Russia. Britain has been doing its best to bridge the gap, but it is increasingly likely that new sanctions will be implemented by a US-led “coalition of the willing”.
Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who arrives in New York for the United Nations general assembly today, has been forced to abandon plans to visit ground zero, where the World Trade Center stood until the September 11 attacks of 2001. Politicians from President George W Bush to Senator Hillary Clinton, the Democratic frontrunner in the 2008 race for the White House, were outraged by the prospect of a visit to New York’s most venerated site by a “state sponsor” of terrorism.
Bush still hopes to isolate Iran diplomatically, but believes the regime is moving steadily closer to obtaining nuclear weapons while the security council bickers.
The US president faces strong opposition to military action, however, within his own joint chiefs of staff. “None of them think it is a good idea, but they will do it if they are told to,” said a senior defence source.
General John Abizaid, the former Centcom commander, said last week: “Every effort should be made to stop Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, but failing that, the world could live with a nuclear-armed Iran.”
Critics fear Abizaid has lost sight of Iran’s potential to arm militant groups such as Hezbollah with nuclear weapons. “You can deter Iran, but there is no strategy against nuclear terrorism,” said the retired air force Lieutenant General Thomas McInerney of the Iran policy committee.
“There is no question that we can take out Iran. The problem is the follow-on, the velvet revolution that needs to be created so the Iranian people know it’s not aimed at them, but at the Iranian regime.”
Checkmate’s freethinking mission is “to provide planning inputs to warfighters that are strategically, operationally and tactically sound, logistically supportable and politically feasible”. Its remit is not specific to one country, according to defence sources, but its forward planning is thought relevant to any future air war against Iranian nuclear and military sites. It is also looking at possible threats from China and North Korea.
Checkmate was formed in the 1970s to counter Soviet threats but fell into disuse in the 1980s. It was revived under Colonel John Warden and was responsible for drawing up plans for the crushing air blitz against Saddam Hussein at the opening of the first Gulf war.
Warden told The Sunday Times: “When Saddam invaded Kuwait, we had access to unlimited numbers of people with expertise, including all the intelligence agencies, and were able to be significantly more agile than Centcom.”
He believes that Checkmate’s role is to develop the necessary expertise so that “if somebody says Iran, it says: ‘here is what you need to think about’. Here are the objectives, here are the risks, here is what it will cost, here are the numbers of planes we will lose, here is how the war is going to end and here is what the peace will look like”.
Warden added: “The Centcoms of this world are executional – they don’t have the staff, the expertise or the responsibility to do the thinking that is needed before a country makes the decision to go to war. War planning is not just about bombs, airplanes and sailing boats.”
Posted by: Churchill1939
at September 24, 2007 8:34 AM
Would not be suprising if President Nutjob gets an NYPD welcome complete with tasers.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106
at September 24, 2007 8:41 AM
http://terrorismawareness.org/islamic-mein-kampf/
Posted by: storagemanager
at September 24, 2007 8:46 AM
I hope the protests go well.
Posted by: Josephine
at September 24, 2007 8:52 AM
I wonder if he is seeking "martyrdom".
Posted by: Abscedere
at September 24, 2007 8:54 AM
The exaggerated attention given to this or that symbolic event, the broadcasting of "Don't-let-him-speak" protestors (who are right, but that does not mean their energies are being put to best use) and then the voices of those who say "everyone should have a chance to speak" (many, from the late William Shockley to an ROTC recruiter, would be amused to hear that being asserted by the kind of people who are unembarrassedly making that assertion), the heat with no light -- all are par for the dismal 18-hole course of trivial pursuit, when it is Islam itself, and what is inside the mind of thin-lipped, beautifully sinister Ahmadinejad, and what is inside the minds, in various versions, of hundreds of millions of others, not all of them quite so obviously stage-villains as is the grotesque Ahmadinejad.
Quietly cancel all thoughts of ever giving money to Columbia, and let its beating heart - the Development Office -- know of this. And make sure, if you are not an alumnus or alumna of Columbia, that you let the college of your choice know how you feel, and how you will be watching --watching to see how well the university meets the Third Challenge -- after Nazism and Communism -- of educating people rightly, instead of providing a haven for apologists, of a Total Belief-System that flatly contradicts every important principle of our legal and political institutions, and our social arranagements, and our art, our science, our everything. Send those letters and cards, and keep those telephones ringing at the Development Offices and Offices of Assorted Very Well-Paid College Presidents, now -- before those invitations go out, and before that tenure is awarded to this or that MESA-Nostran who will soon bring in others just like him, to block any real knowledge of Islam from being acquired by those impressionable students.
Posted by: Hugh
at September 24, 2007 8:55 AM
Columbia, Yale, Harvard...etc....the poison ivy league
Posted by: americanmadestrat
at September 24, 2007 9:00 AM
Breaking News: New Ad in NYT Slams Columbia - See It http://w3.newsmax.com/a/freedomswatch/?promo_code=2A89-1
Posted by: storagemanager
at September 24, 2007 9:19 AM
With the appearance of "A-mad-jihad" at Columbia, I wish to remind people who want to invoke our Free Speech here in the United States:
1) We offer Free Speech to OUR Citizens
2) You are NOT an American Patriot if you endorse the Free Speech of a dictator who violates all the precepts of our Independence and Constitution.
Am I questioning your Patriotism?
NO! I'm telling you outright, YOU'RE NOT AN AMERICAN PATRIOT!
at September 24, 2007 9:20 AM
This piece sums it up well:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57799
The day freedom died.
at September 24, 2007 9:32 AM
storagemanager -- Thanks for the link to that excellent ad.
Posted by: Josephine
at September 24, 2007 9:51 AM
storagemanager - It's good, but I have a criticism. The word "Islamic" should appear before the words "Terrorist" and "Terrorism."
As Brigitte Gabriel has said, "If you take "Islamic" out of the equation, there is no Terrorism."
Why are people so afraid to use the word "Islamic?"
Posted by: darcy
at September 24, 2007 10:01 AM
Michelle Malkin has a link to a spoof of Columbia University:
http://www.columbiasupportsterror.com/
Posted by: Josephine
at September 24, 2007 10:11 AM
http://www.lumponablog.com/?p=344">Ahmadinejad to Visit Columbia University
Posted by: Lumpy
at September 24, 2007 10:20 AM
Beasty Boy Ahmadinijad and Columbia University. Birds of a feather stick together. Beasty's appearance there has nothing to do with free speech, and every thing to do with 'nesting'...
Posted by: duh_swami
at September 24, 2007 10:23 AM
Some points to consider...
(1) Islam (i.e., the global Ummah) lays claim to all of the Dar Al-Harb...
(2) Anyone who is a member of the Ummah (including Ahmadinejad) is a de facto representative of the Ummah...
(3) Therefore, from an Islamic perspective, Ahmadinejad's real intention in visiting Ground Zero is to (literally & figuratively) walk into the heart of Dar Al-Harb, and lay claim to it...
(4) He is fully aware that such a visit would be done in full view of the entire global Ummah...
(5) This is something similar to 'counting coup'
(6) Ahmadinejad would gain prestige from such an action in at least two ways;
a) prestige for his 'heroic and courageous venture' into the heart of Dar Al-Harb, and
b) prestige vis-a-vis the ongoing competition between Sunni and Shia Islam
at September 24, 2007 10:28 AM
Scooter526, how right you are! I'm getting soooo mad when the news interviews some snotty student "America is all about free speach!" or " How will I know if I hate him if I don't hear him speak? The contoversy is good, it helps us ask more questionsblah...blah..blah" These rules don't apply to ANYONE with a conservative mindset! I'm soo pissed I have to get away from it today.
Posted by: americanmadestrat
at September 24, 2007 10:34 AM
Send in some bikini girls and watch him run, his career will be over.
Posted by: Ahmadinejew
at September 24, 2007 10:36 AM
I say let the guy speak. It exemplifies to the rational mind what the USA is about (or was, actually) and he might have something to say worth hearing.
History will show this as a turning point/obituary of his rule and the more the masses are elucidated the better, IMHO.
One thing is 'fer sure: I would *NOT* want to be the guy in charge of his security detail. If there ever was a time for the phrase "Not on my watch", it's this week.
-osgo
at September 24, 2007 11:02 AM
Ahmadinejew,
Better yet, have the protestors take their shoes off and hold it in their left hands. That will drive him away.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106
at September 24, 2007 11:03 AM
When I get invited to speak at Columbia, you'll know that Columbia really is dedicated to learning and scholarship, and is committed to confronting ideas.
Excellent idea -- any takers at Columbia? In fact, have your cake and eat it too: Invite Spencer, or Pipes, or Emerson, or Wafa Sultan, to speak immediately following Ahmedinijad, in a "double header" presenting both sides of each issue covered. Ahmedinijad was itching for a debate a few years back, why not bring it on?
Posted by: Archimedes2
at September 24, 2007 12:07 PM
A friend who's NYPD (and works less than 2 blocks from Groud Zero, before & after 9/11) said if he gets within 2 blocks of the place, even at 4 am when he thinks nobody's looking, everyone will know within minutes...and folks are ready 24/7 until the scumbag leaves the country he vows to destroy.
at September 24, 2007 12:35 PM
That $10 wager I placed four days back looks like its going to pay off. Maybe I’ll buy a pizza.
Posted by: pez
at September 24, 2007 1:06 PM
bigcatgirl13106, Make sure the soles are pointing toward the object of disgust. It is a serious insult. If you really want to see a Mohameddan squirm, sit with you legs crossed with the sole of your shoe visible and pointing in the Mohammedan's direction. However, it would be unlady like to sit that way unless you are wearing slacks.
Saddam had a picture of the elder Bush in the floor mosaic in a hotel in Baghdad. Everyone who walked into the building stepped on Bush's likeness.
A few hundred people pointing the soles of their shoes at the little guy, would really be effective.
at September 24, 2007 1:20 PM
Semi-transparent Prez Mahmoud Ahmadinejab on why he added visiting WTC Groud Zero to his itinerary:
"Usually you go to these sites to pay your respects. And also to perhaps air your views about the root causes of such incidents."
Rather nonchalant. Just another opportunity to pay respects to "The Victims and Heroes," no doubt. Just like visiting a shrine to Shia martyrs.
And another opportunity to blame the victims "of such incidents"--to rewrite history, to point to the perpetrators as the REAL victims and heroes. To pollute the air with vile rationalizations and doubletalk.
Posted by: John C
at September 24, 2007 1:24 PM
Hopefully, Ground Zero will be so jammed with people
protesting his visit, that he won't be able to venture anywhere near the premises.
I hope people saw the reception that was held for him, last night I believe, LGF has the pics. They were treating him like a Rock Star. And he is of course to those constituents, the Moonbat Milieu
of Muslim Supremacists and Self-Loathing American Progressives.
The Lesbian Jew at the Daily Kos who wrote the love peon to Mahmoud; to use an American saying,
"took the cake." I know you would probably kill me
as a Lesbian Jew, but you're so darn cute and I agree with a lot of what you have to say - wow,
I hope that was satire.
at September 24, 2007 1:43 PM
Good points scooter256, except that this guy is NOT a dictator.
AND his country is NOT at war with the US.
Pass the propoganda pipe back to the Bush Administration and back away from the keyboard until you understand what is going on.
(You might want to checkout todays Greenwald piece at Salon, if you want to get a true understanding of what is going on).
To the rest of you I say "Boo", just to see you scaredy cats jump up a tree.
Posted by: Robert
at September 24, 2007 2:21 PM
Perhaps I forgot. Could some of those declaring what a disgrace it is for the Shia President of Iran to lay a wreath at Ground Zero of the September 11 attacks remind me exactly how many Shia Iranians were among the hijackers that day?
Oh yeah! I forgot! Zero!
They were all Sunni's, from our "allies" Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Pakistan.
And, to those who declare there is no difference: that same level of understanding is why the Bush Administration botched the occupation of Iraq.
Posted by: Philadelphia Steve
at September 24, 2007 6:12 PM
Someone get Robert a mirror...and more Kool-Aid.
Going to Greenwald for a "true understanding"...of anything (for that matter), may as well got to air america radio (he wrote for them), dailykook or one of those kook fringe websites...and salon is dailykook lite...puhlease.
lmao.
:-D
at September 25, 2007 2:42 AM
...and I'm not referring to Mr Spencer, either...
(Then again, Mr Spencer probably knew that already)
at September 25, 2007 2:44 AM
jcom72,
Yeah. Backing up statements with facts, as Greenwald does daily, is so pre 9/11 thinking.
If you think the president of Iran laying a wreath at Ground Zero calls for outrage, imagine the reaction if Bill Clinton started a war where
the most powerful military in the history of mankind was fought to a standstill by teenagers.
at September 25, 2007 8:43 AM
LOL...yep, get a clue kid...you're not even close to reality...
...and enjoy the Kool-Aid.
LOL
at September 25, 2007 1:18 PM
Robert [Spencer's unenlightened doppelganger]:
You have forgotten President Clinton's intervention in Somalia, where OBL/AQ boast that they supplied the SAM that brought down our country's Black Hawk, where teen-aged combatants chewing khat ambushed our rescue party and defiled our dead!
Posted by: John C
at September 25, 2007 2:25 PM
alterRobert & Philly Steve:
This is WAR--a broader war than you (even perhaps GWB) fully comprehend. For the love of truth, this is YOUR country, too! Our enemies may be diverse, but they put aside their own enmities to collaborate against us, because they truly believe--professions like Ahmadinejab's notwithstanding--that WE ALL are their enemy and that they are AT WAR with us "...Until all religion is for Allah alone"!
Posted by: John C
at September 25, 2007 2:45 PM
"--Professions like Ahmadinejab's ..."; read "protestations," instead.
Posted by: John C
at September 25, 2007 2:49 PM
Iran Declares War
New York Sun Editorial
May 11, 2006
President Ahmadinejad's letter to President Bush, widely interpreted as a peaceful overture, is in fact a declaration of war. The key sentence in the letter is the closing salutation. In an eight-page text of the letter being circulated by the Council on Foreign Relations, it is left untranslated and rendered as "Vasalam Ala Man Ataba'al hoda." What this means is "Peace only unto those who follow the true path."
It is a phrase with historical significance in Islam, for, according to Islamic tradition, in year six of the Hejira - the late 620s - the prophet Mohammad sent letters to the Byzantine emperor and the Sassanid emperor telling them to convert to the true faith of Islam or be conquered. The letters included the same phrase that President Ahmadinejad used to conclude his letter to Mr. Bush. For Mohammad, the letters were a prelude to a Muslim offensive, a war launched for the purpose of imposing Islamic rule over infidels.
Much of the rest of Ahmadinejad's letter is devoted to portraying Mr. Bush as an infidel. Given that Mr. Bush is not about to convert to Islam, what the letter presages is, if anything, an Islamic attack. So the thing to think about is what this implies for American policymakers. For one thing, no step short of converting to Islam will avert the planned attack so long as the regime in Tehran remains in power. All the "carrots" that the doves in the American foreign policy establishment want to offer - abandoning Israel, offering Iran "security guarantees" and economic and political relations - fall short of what Iran's president demands. He demands that America "follow the true path," that is, convert to Islam. Short of that, America will not receive peace from the Iranian regime.
Mr. Bush has been clear that America wishes the Iranian people well and supports them in their quest for freedom from their clerical regime. He needs to do everything he can to help the Iranian people oust the regime in Tehran before the regime has a chance to launch its offensive against America. Such an offensive by Iran would be dangerous enough with conventional weapons; we certainly don't want to permit a nation that is about to attack us to have nuclear weapons. And our president would do us all a service by telling Americans about this Iranian declaration of war. When Al Qaeda issued its February 1998 fatwa, only a few Americans recognized its significance as a declaration of war. That took until September 11, 2001. This time around, let's not miss the warning.
at September 25, 2007 3:04 PM
Try the past 25 years, by someone who was there, and this ignoramus anti-Robert was obviously NOT...
http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=7784
I know...I worked for the guy, and I was there, too.
at September 25, 2007 3:21 PM
Like the USA doesn't support terrorism.
Tell that to the 3 million who have left Iraq since we started bombing them.
c'mon jcm, make believe Clinton was President when $9 Billion of our money went unaccounted for in iraq.
I want to see your head explode.
BTW, Genius is spelled g-e-n-i-u-s, not i-g-n-o-r-a-m-o-u-s.
Nice try though.
Posted by: Robert
at September 25, 2007 6:37 PM
LOL
DailyKook Alert!
LMAO
at September 25, 2007 6:42 PM
jcom,
You are better at sparring with this insolent, braying jackass than I am. As far as I'm concerned, this is greater than politics or George W. Bush or domestic priorities or personalities, and I'm sorry for the fools who just don't get it.
I resent being goaded by the idle and disloyal among us. They mock and carp and put nothing on the line. They take perverse delight in the rise of tyrants and in the affliction of decent people.
Posted by: John C
at September 26, 2007 2:17 AM
exsgtbrown,
Thanks for posting the New York Sun editorial. I haven't seen it before. It sets Ahmadinejab's message out straight.
Posted by: John C
at September 26, 2007 2:23 AM
Not really, John...
I'm just more used to them, longer experience with them, and know what make's them tick...which doesn't take much time or effort at all ti figure trolls.
I used to get disgusted with them...but now I'm just amused...
(usually a college freshman spewing echoed professor-ridden pahblum, or some older loser bitter over how reality proved different than he envisioned & wants to blame everyone else)
...I wouldn't even compliment him with "insolent" or "braying"...just another truculent popinjay for the world to deal with who doesn't know the difference between a piTHing contest and a pi$$ing contest.
I even wrote a poem about them & their ilk...
Their popinjays took on the best,
but their truculence failed the test,
as came, jcom, highly,
bloviating, most highly,
while they mistook "pithing" contest.
'nuf sed
;-)
at September 26, 2007 3:28 AM
Most pithy. Lan astaslam!
Embrace IslamOMISIA!
> > > > > > > > ^^^^^
at September 26, 2007 10:07 AM
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