Update: Omesh has "resigned".

See Brietbart.com

Posted by: Laughs_at_Silly_Jihadis at September 27, 2007 5:06 PM

See Brietbart.com
Posted by: Laughs_at_Silly_Jihadis at September 27, 2007 5:06 PM

What are you trying to prove Mr. D A Neiman? Your posted link takes me to your web-site. JW site is already busy fighting off deceitful Islamists. You are adding extra noise which is not warranted.

Posted by: MusHuntCowboy at September 27, 2007 5:31 PM

Excellent...looks like enough folks stood up.
Though I'd like to say we were solely responsible for this terrorist fraud biting the dust, I've no doubt this was a HUGE factor.

Sites like this prove they work...as the topic proves case-in-point.

Posted by: jcom972 at September 27, 2007 5:43 PM

Gosh, those pesky videos! One good video showing you are a lying sack of you-know-what can ruin your whole day.

Posted by: Isabellathecrusader at September 27, 2007 5:45 PM

I can hear it now...
music playin'...

"amother one bites the dust, hey! hey!..."

LMAO

Posted by: jcom972 at September 27, 2007 5:55 PM

One small step for mankind.

But the moral of the tale is this: in order to avoid a misstep that will come to haunt you, if you are a political figure, that will undoubtedly be used, at this point -- and with full justification -- by your political opponents as an example of your naivete, or failure to exercise due diligence, do not meet with, do not have smiling photographs taken with, do not endorse in any way, and certainly do not appoint to any office, someone who believes in Jihad as a central duty, Jihad through whatever means. That includes almost every Believer. And do not accept, ever, either someone's claim to be a "moderate" or someone else's description of someone -- especially if that someone is in the hopelessly naive Interfaith Dialogue racket -- as a "great guy, no problem, he's really on our side."

Use your head. Enough running from all those in positions of political or academic or other power running around like candidates for Jay Leno's Jaywalkers.

Take, for example, the supposedly "tough" performance of Columbia University President Lee Bollinger, who still has yet to inform himself about Islam. Despite the tongue-lashing he inflicted on Ahmadinejad (and here fortiter in re, suaviter in modo, might have been just the ticket) he became helpless, nearly tongue-tied, when it came to answering back Ahmadinejad when he made his absurd remarks about, for example, Israel. Was it a surprise to Bollinger that that would have been raised? Was he unable to rise to the occasion, and to show up the idiocy of the claim, one so common as Bollinger should have fully anticipated it, that "the poor 'Palestinians' should not have to pay for the Holocaust." For god's sake. Someone well-informed, particularly dealing with the theme of the rights of non-Arabs -- Jews and Persians and Armenians and Copts to start with -- in the Middle East, and also who was given, on a platter, a chance to discuss Persian history and the successful Persian effort to prevent the arabization, and cultural and linguistic imperialism of the Arabs, that has been such a feature of islamization world-wide (and that would have amazed not just Ahmadinejad, but deeply shaken up Iranians back in Iran, and caused them to think). But Bollinger seems only interested in protecting himself, and no doubt preserving the loyalty of alumni. Has he lost the ability to study and think, in the heady rise to the top? Perhaps he can re-acquire that skill. It may inspire some of the undergraduates.

And now Virginia Governor Kaine has had to re-think, and so too has the man he was about to appoint, a man whom Robert Spencer has debated, has tapes of those debates, and can easily show that Esam Omeish lies (denying that death is the punishment prescribed for apostasy in Islam, with texual authority) and also has admitted that he looks forward to the extension of Shari'a across the United States. Had he been appointed, and that information come out and been widely distributed -- and it would have been -- it would have inflicted severe political damage, rightly, on Governer Kaine. There is no need for this, anymore than there was a need for Mayor Menino, without knowing a thing about Islam, a few years ago to enthusiastically support the building of that deplorale mosque, with all the behind-the-scenes below-market sale of city land and the Saudi connection and the BRA employee who, as far as is known, may still be on the BRA payroll. I know many people who have because of that permanently lost any enthusiasm they might have had for Mayor Menino.

For god's sake, did no one think to do a little googling? Or to check, say, with "The Investigative Project" or with "Jihad Watch" to see if there was anything about Mr. X that might, just might, be the kind of thing the governor or mayor or Congressman deciding whom to hire for his staff, would have liked to have known in advance? Or if not those sources, then others -- just something so that one is fully alerted to the real views, not the feigned ones that may be expressed, or the evasions of taqiyya-and-tu-quoque that by now we are all getting so used to, and that must be seen right through, and if not by the Great and Good of this earth themselves, then by members of their staffs, whose duty it is to guide and protect them from such blunders that, in the end, might prove fatal for those who commit them, in one way, and fatal, in quite another, much grimmer way, for those who those in brief (or not so brief) authority presume to instruct and protect.

Do your homework, for god's sake. Do it.

Posted by: Hugh at September 27, 2007 5:57 PM

"Sites like this prove they work...as the topic proves case-in-point. - posted by: jcom972

True. In this particular instance, credit goes to Charles at Littlegreenfootballs as outlined in the JW post linked above . . .

Charles at LGF has the story, and some video of the appointee, Dr. Esam Omeish. - Posted by Robert at September 26, 2007 4:52 PM

Charles also has several updates to this story already. Specifically, the governors statement declaring the replacement will also be a member of the muslim community. Such are the qualifications for this post. Sigh. Imagine the outcry if the governor suggested a Jewish replacement.

Posted by: justamomof4 at September 27, 2007 5:57 PM

Omesh has "resigned".

In an unrelated story, Omesh was hired today by Halliburton, who was awarded the position of Virginia state Commission on Immigration in a no-bid contract. Omesh will begin his new career as a contractor there tomorrow morning, moving into the office he vacated today.

[It's getting harder to separate jokes from reality, but this is a joke.]

Posted by: special_guest at September 27, 2007 5:58 PM

Now about Esposito and that New Jersey meeting of the Department of Homeland Security....

Posted by: Hugh at September 27, 2007 6:00 PM

I think some emails to www.inova.org are in order as well

Posted by: eve_anne_gelical at September 27, 2007 6:06 PM

No, it would be unwise.

Posted by: Hugh at September 27, 2007 6:08 PM

Good point Hugh,
perhaps we should concentrate on Esposito next...and see about getting him removed as well.

Posted by: jcom972 at September 27, 2007 6:17 PM

But the non-Muslim patients of Dr. Omeish may be a bit concerned. Wouldn't you be concerned, if your medical fate were possibly in the hands of someone who, given that he apparently favors the imposition of the Shari'a in the United States, which means he supports your future status as a dhimmi, a status that means humiliation, degradation, and permanent physical insecurity, that you might just have a few qualms about having your children, or yourself, be treated by such a person? Perhaps, you say to yourself, his supposed adherence to the Hippocratic Oath may clash with his loyalty to Islam, and possibly to the specific demands of Islam as laid out in Qur'anic passages and stories in the Hadith. Would you mind going to a doctor who, you knew, took very seriously such a verse as "Smite the Unbeliever..." or "Do not take Christians and Jews as friends, for they are friends only with each other" -- verses from the uncreated and immutable Word of God? Would you?

And if you believed you had received careless, negligent, substandard treatment, would not an intelligent lawyer, in the malpractice lawsuit he would institute, not be sure to investigate the deepest promptings of Dr. Omeish's belief-system, and would he not quote verses that Dr. Omeish would have to agree are, yes indeed, part of the uncreated and immutable Word of God that he, Dr. Omeish, so deeply believes in.

Insurance companies will have to take note. There are already reports of one such lawsuit, brought by a doctor whose father died from what he, that doctor, believes was Islamically-related negligence. This is not a trivial matter, nor a laughing one. It has now, and will have in the future, clear consequences going to potential liability, and to insurance rates. Just one more unsettlement to our society, one more worry, one more thing to make our lives far more unpleasant than they would otherwise be.

Posted by: Hugh at September 27, 2007 6:25 PM

"the governor's statement declaring the replacement will also be a member of the muslim community."
-- from a posting above

Why? Is a precedent being set? Will there now be a "Muslim" seat on the Commission on Immigration from here on? What is Kaine thinking? Whose favor is he currying? What broadmindedness and "diversity" mindedness is he attempting to demonstrate, to the presumed approval of one and all? He’s misreading the public, including all kinds of those he would have no difficulty describing as liberal Democrats, but who are now prepared to see Islam as an ideology, and to subject it to critical scrutiny, not because but despite Bush and Tarbaby Iraq. Kaine is missing the boat. He hasn’t been paying attention. What he thinks is still in fashion, isn’t.

For more on the unexamined assumptions and presumptions and idols of the age, there is this from Mary Sue Coleman, President of the University of Michigan, reacting to a referendum in Michigan on affirmative action that did not go as she knew that it simply had to:

http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/4705

Posted by: Hugh at September 27, 2007 6:38 PM

Good work!

Kudos to Robert and Hugh, (and LGF and HotAir) for focusing on this weasel and forcing the dumping of this crypto-fascist by the asleep-at-the-wheel Kaine.

The Web works wonders!

Posted by: profitsbeard at September 27, 2007 6:52 PM

Here's an idea. Don't appoint a "representative" of what is primly called "the Muslim community." Do appoint, if you feel compelled to appoint someone with a Muslim-sounding name, Ray Ibrahim, who just published an invaluable book of translations of texts by Muslim terrorists. Or do appoint Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who was born and raised in a family, and society, suffused with Islam, but made it to the Netherlands, and mental freedom. In any case, since we all know -- do we not? -- that Muslims are loyal Americans, want peace, and so on and so forth -- make very sure that the Muslim you choose wants peace, is a loyal American, etc. Shouldn't be hard to find. And of course, such a person will meet with the instant approval of the "Muslim community" of which that person will be a representative.

Let's see how long that state-wide search takes you.

Oh, and if you were thinking of Mahdi Bray, the "country Muslim from Norfolk, Virginia," you might want to give it another thought.

Posted by: Hugh at September 27, 2007 6:56 PM

I'm new here and I'm happy to say that because I have checked Jihad Watch everyday for at least the last year or so I sent the Gov of VA a polite note that he was dealing with a man that loves the radical part of his religion more than he loves his country.

This is the way to stay informed and take action. I have had intense discussions with intellectually lazy individuals who spew what CAIR feeds the mainstream media and have calmly beaten them to a pulp with facts and proof.

Thanks to Mr Spencer, all of the posters here, and the gigantic internet community who "gets" it, I feel that there is indeed hope for the future.

Not the near future.

Semper Fi

winemkr

Posted by: winemkr at September 27, 2007 7:15 PM

Some ahole is actually going to look at some video ?

He doesn't probably even know who the Muslim Brotherhood is and their history.

It's the Muslin Brotherhood stupid - think Housseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem, Hitler and Fatah.

These ruling elites probably couldn't find their own buttocks even if they had their hands in their own back pockets (instead of ours).

Do they have to be given a script to tell the good guys from the bad guys ?

(mind if it's a current Hollywood script by the likes of the leftie vacant head crowd, no wonder they are confused - they are being encouraged to hate America)

Another ignoramus government who will get us killed.

Posted by: dgene at September 27, 2007 7:36 PM

I gave the email address for the NJ Dept of Homeland Security at the end of yesterday's thread so here it is again.

ohsp@ohsp.state.nj.us

Tell them what you think of Esposito.

Posted by: USorThem at September 27, 2007 7:36 PM

Hugh,

Suggestions for us regarding the upcoming Esposito appearance at DHS?

Thanks in advance.

Posted by: awake at September 27, 2007 7:38 PM

another doctor, hot for jihad. It's an uncomfortable
correlation.

Posted by: whatdafuq at September 27, 2007 7:41 PM

another doctor, hot for jihad. It's an uncomfortable correlation. - Posted by: whatdafuq

Humorous nik you got there . . . and yeah, "it's an uncomfortable correlation, indeed.

#8 of Islam's 20-year plan for U.S.:

8. Encourage Muslims to penetrate the White House, specifically with Islamists who can articulate a marvelous and peaceful picture of Islam. Acquire government positions and get membership in local school boards. Train Muslims as medical doctors to dominate the medical field, research and pharmaceutical companies. (Ever notice how numerous Muslim doctors in America are, when their countries need them more desperately than America?) Take over the computer industry. Establish Middle Eastern restaurants throughout the U.S. to connect planners of Islamization in a discreet way.

Posted by: justamomof4 at September 27, 2007 8:08 PM

The way politicians mince words these days I would have to ask, "OK, he's examining it, but is he watching it, and listening to it."

I can examine a video (CD) by checking it for scratches and examine a cassette to make sure it is not dusty or the tape is not broken. When I say that I examined it, I would not be lying.

Posted by: Pelayo at September 27, 2007 8:44 PM

Welcome winemkr...from a physician who sees lots of Vets every day..I'm old..but sees vets from all the current and past wars every day..RS has always responded to my E Mails..RS and UF are STERLING/GOLDEN( and courageous) for info on their website.. Im not a veteran .just a 2S defered collegian from the '60s..welcome to JW..from Mike and thanks again RS and HS and colleages at JW

Posted by: nodak at September 27, 2007 8:51 PM

Progressives will profess, that the good Doctor went Jihad, because his fellow Doctores would not let Him build his House on the top of the Hill with the rest of them.

Seems to be one of those power to the People moments. Where an educated Public can correct the preseptions of ill informed Public Servants.

Bushwacked within ear shot of Thousands of people with inquiring minds.

I would suspect that who ever wacked Kaine over his first choise will be ready for his secound, and third, and Fourth...

Posted by: flowerknife_us at September 27, 2007 9:30 PM

Are meetings open to the public? If so, go to see (and possibly tape) Esposito. If there is a question period, surely you know what to ask about, begining with his friendship with Azzam Tamimi and Sami al-Arian and Al-Faruqi. That, for a start. Then ask about the donors to the Prince Talal bin Alwaleed Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding, and what they get for their money. Note the amounts of Saudi money being put to mosque-and-madrasa-building use, and mention the Freedom House report on the Saudi-produced literature distributed in many mosques around the country. And ask him to define "jihad" and the word "dhimmi" and the word "taqiyyah."

That's a start.

Posted by: Hugh at September 27, 2007 9:49 PM

More desperate docs doing dasdardly demonic deeds despite delicious deliverence dutifly doled down by Dee-Lord! lol

Him or any other--cut on me---never!
Not even a basic physical. This would be like the Nazi Dr. Mengele having you cough.

My dad, the surgeon, would be turning in his grave.

Posted by: guide inside at September 27, 2007 10:52 PM

For 30 years now, degenerate US administrations, Democrat and Republican, have kepts the gates wide open for out-of control invasion of this country by such doctors from hell, and engineers, and students, and all kinds of rabid enemy vermin. The infestation goes on, catastrophically, creating the ever-growing "sea" for the jihadists here. Now, they are given power to actually decide on immigration. Rabid Hezbollah devotees, such is David Turfe in Michigan, are elected judges, and Americans now stand before their judgement!
Vote for Rudy and pray it is not too late.

Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

Posted by: Enragedsince1999 at September 27, 2007 10:57 PM

Thanks Hugh,

NJ is definately doable by me. I will do my best, recorder in hand. Is there any JW members that can asist in Hugh's recommendations? I despise Esposito and we need the help, assuming that I or anyone can get in to the event.

Sometimes, I wish I were Michelle Malkin.

I'll work on that.

Posted by: awake at September 27, 2007 11:39 PM

It seems Virginia is definitely a place to stay away from. After their school system, at all levels, refused to institutionalize the student who murdered 32 fellow students after 6 years of mentally disturbed behavior and now a really dumb, or crazed, or severly warped Governor wants to turn the state over to radcal Islamists and illegal aliens, Virginia is obviously in a serious decline of management. Obviously the people there want it that way, they voted for and are keeping this deranged man in office, maybe to be the first dhimmi state, or for other unknown reasons beyond reasonable thinking. Lets hope it doesn't spread to the rest of the country.

Posted by: countywolf at September 27, 2007 11:59 PM

Why does a representative for Middle Eastern immigrants have to be Muslim?

Is it stated what the religion of a Central American immigrant representative should be? Is it written that he must be a Catholic, because that religion dominates the area? Would (s)he be denied the job if they stated they were agnostic?

What about the Asian immigrants? Could they not be represented by a Muslim? What religion must they be to adequately represent their society? Hindu, Buddhist, Shintoist?

Are there no other religious persuasions(or even atheism) that a Middle Eastern representative could possess and still do a good job?

I find this hiring practice Constitutionally challengeable. Just as one cannot deny someone a job on the basis of religion, one cannot give preference to one either. A qualified Middle Eastern Christian could easily apply, they would definitely be denied of course, and file a discrimination suit. CAIR would be jealous of the deviousness.

Posted by: Mick_n_NYC at September 28, 2007 12:39 AM

Omeish advocating "the jihad way"

Islam says: Jihad is the Way!

Christianity says: Jesus is the Way!

Posted by: champ at September 28, 2007 2:17 AM

To Mr Spencer
I have always felt that the opportunity to send emails to the parties mentioned in articles should be part of the site structure.
Living in the uk some of these parties are not available to email(like Governor Kaine)without an address inside the USA and so I had to resort to a fax
Is it not possible to have a section for action required and a "How To" like many other sites do

Posted by: doubtingthomas at September 28, 2007 3:13 AM

doubtingthomas,

I'm not sure if the site would do that, but here's a workaround for emailing U.S. members of congress and governors:

Find the right zip code.
http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/citytown.jsp

For governors and senators, a zip code or city (or both--as requested in their respective 'offical' web page) from within their state will usually let you email them as though you are actually a constituent.

For a member of congress, same as above, but specifically from within their district.

An example of city and zip for Virginia Governor Kaine or Senator Webb would be Arlington, Va(22201).

An example of city and zip for Virginia Congressman Goode would be Rocky Mount, Va (24151). [The cities, towns and counties they represent are generally listed on their respective 'official' web page]

Here is Governor Kaine's 'official' web page:
http://www.governor.virginia.gov/

Posted by: PRCS at September 28, 2007 3:42 AM

One's own respective reps are also available in nearly everyone's telephone directory, too...right up front.

Posted by: jcom972 at September 28, 2007 4:09 AM

PRCS
Thankyou- for the information I have filed it- sometimes I think these guys don't realise the power of the internet that makes them visible on the world stage and as such I would prefer them to know where the message is actually coming from-- In the governors case I used the fax number on his "email the governor" page

Posted by: doubtingthomas at September 28, 2007 4:29 AM