Is there anyone more irrelevant than Condi at the moment? I am hard pressed to think of a reasonable facsimile.

At least Dr. Rice's Phd., in Russian history, has helped our collective cause to deal with the imminent threat of Islam, right? She at least knows who Putin is for sure, right?

Her actions as sitting US Secretary of State, far outweighs any scholarship she supposedly has, which was evident in her reply to the historical rift between Sunni and Shia Muslims as an obstacle that, "there just going to have to get over that."

Typically sad from the entire current US administration. Ignorance in living color.

I'm just glad we got Marisol at Midnght (or close enough) back.

Posted by: awake at September 28, 2007 12:52 AM

Terror offsets cant be far off.

Posted by: GrennBeck at September 28, 2007 12:56 AM

This is the same Condi who wanted to "buy" arms from palestinian terrorists and still insists on creating a Palestinian state, ofcourse to please her master Bush, who was raised in wahhabi oil-wealth (google "Bush+Arbusto+Bin+Laden), whose father was in wahhabbi pockets even before vecoming the CIA chief. As though this was not enough, Bush and Kerry grace 'Scull and Bones' (google "skulls+bones+Bush") but I digress. Condi has been selling Israel to Palestinian terorists ever since she could. Why should this surprise anyone?

Posted by: Alert at September 28, 2007 12:59 AM

Buy more shorts: Rice says nations must fight climate change like terrorism

Buy more shorts.
Drink more Koolaid.
Believe in Mahomaid.
And the Religion of peace†m

Rest in Peas.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at September 28, 2007 1:00 AM

The real victims of affirmative actions are qualified minorities. I could tell you stories.

Unqualified targeted people are put in big-boy jobs. They fail. Everybody watches. Good people who earned their positions cringe.

Posted by: pez at September 28, 2007 1:14 AM

Maybe she plans to run for Congress as a democrat and join the carbon tyrant committee. That will guarantee her some Soros money.

How could Reagan's City on a Hill come to this? So many have lost their way. Hillery? God lord.

Posted by: Jimmy Bones at September 28, 2007 1:29 AM

Why not just mint carbon credits? ;-)

GrennBeck, Terror offsets isn't a bad idea. Left to their own devices, it would already be operational in Iraq. And a lot of other terretories in dar ul Islam

Posted by: Infidel Pride at September 28, 2007 1:36 AM

Christ help us, we're done for.

Posted by: One_of_the_last_few_Patriots_left at September 28, 2007 1:40 AM

Condi's multi-tasking speech made my head spin, and clearly suggests that she is in need of a vacation -- a very LONG vacation -- otherwise known as retirement.

Posted by: champ at September 28, 2007 2:07 AM

LOL...
fighting climate change?
may as well do shadow boxing!
Yep, political correctness has definitely infested its way into even the executive branch.
So much for common sense...lol.
Can you say R.I.N.O.?

God help us all.
LMAO

Posted by: jcom972 at September 28, 2007 2:22 AM

Caption to Condi's speech:

"Stranger Than Fiction"

Posted by: champ at September 28, 2007 2:34 AM

Terror offsets cant be far off.
Posted by: GrennBeck

You hit the nail on the head. That's what the SOWdi Barbarians have been investing in all these [carefree] years..

Terror offsets.. we need to keep track of that.

GREAT new word you coined GrennBeck!!

Go out and commit another one.. we have a special this week.. 3 for 5.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at September 28, 2007 2:37 AM

Like the SOWdi 'prince' frog who wanted to purchase $10 m in Teror Offssts from one Rudy Giuliani back in 2001.

Too bad for them the "sucka" didn't bite!

Posted by: Allahfanculo at September 28, 2007 2:43 AM

We'd also have to invade a heavily polluting country and spend half a trillion dollars to install a new government with a new constitution to forbid pollution, but then not flinch when it turns out the new constitution says, "no law shall be made that goes against the use of hydrocarbon based fuels."

Posted by: traeh at September 28, 2007 2:48 AM

I have several "terror offset"s, right in my home, and they have multiple uses and roles, too!
They're named:
Colt
Smith
Wesson
Armalite
Heckler
Koch
Remington
Browning
Winchester
et. al...
they also make the best crime offsets, brownshirt offsets, lunatic offsets, insurrectionist offsets,
totalitarian offsets, foreign invasion offsets...the list is endless.
Ain't multitasking, grand?
LOL

Posted by: jcom972 at September 28, 2007 3:32 AM

suggestions to add to list:

4.) Allow unrestricted importation of foreign cars into the country, which do not (and will not) adhere to current domestic emmission standards.

5.) Warn that bringing attention or criticizing polluters will only cause a backlash of more polluting.

6.) Blame ignorance, poverty and unemployment as the root cause for global warming.

Posted by: Xero G at September 28, 2007 4:00 AM

Ya forgot about the vast right-wing conspiracy!
(/sarc)
lol

Posted by: jcom972 at September 28, 2007 4:02 AM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml;jsessionid=BWDB4JVXVUKWRQFIQMGSFGGAVCBQWIV0?xml=/opinion/2007/09/28/do2804.xml

WILL THE 12TH IMAM CAUSE WAR WITH IRAN ???

Will the 12th Imam cause war with Iran?
By Con Coughlin

Not since the prime minister of the tiny Caribbean island of Grenada presented an address claiming that UFOs posed a mortal threat to the future of mankind has the United Nations been treated to such a bizarre spectacle.

Many people believe the greatest threat to world peace concerns Iran's nuclear programme, so there was understandably great interest at this week's general assembly in New York when the country's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, took the platform.

But instead of seeking to reassure delegates that Iran's nuclear intentions were purely benign, Mr Ahmadinejad took advantage of his official visit to a country deemed – in the lexicon of the Iranian Revolution – "the Great Satan" to embark on a discourse about the wonders of the 12th Imam.

For those unacquainted with the more obscure tenets of Islamic theology, the 12th Imam is held by devout Shi'ite Muslims to be a direct descendant of the Prophet Mohammed who went into "occlusion" in the ninth century at the age of five and hasn't been seen since.

The Hidden Imam, as he is also known by his followers, will only return after a period of cosmic chaos, war and bloodshed – what Christians call the Apocalypse – and then lead the world into an era of universal peace.

Rumours abound of Mr Ahmadinejad's devotion to the 12th Imam, and last year it was reported that he had persuaded his cabinet to sign a "contract" pledging themselves to work for his return.

Another example of his messianic tendencies surfaced after 108 people were killed in an aircraft crash in Teheran. Mr Ahmadinejad praised the victims, saying: "What is important is that they have shown the way to martyrdom which we must follow."

For many of the hundreds of delegates who attended Mr Ahmadinejad's speech to the UN this week, his discourse on the merits of the 12th Imam finally brought home the reality of the danger his regime poses to world peace.

Rather than allaying concerns about Iran's nuclear ambitions, Mr Ahmadinejad spoke at length about how a Muslim saviour would relieve the world's suffering.

The era of Western predominance was drawing to a close, he said, and would soon be replaced by a "bright future" ushered in by the 12th Imam's return. "Without any doubt, the Promised One, who is the ultimate Saviour, will come. The pleasing aroma of justice will permeate the whole world."

The really alarming aspect is that – if the world's leading intelligence agencies are to be believed – he is seriously attempting to acquire a nuclear weapons arsenal.

Only yesterday, the opposition group that first revealed the existence of Iran's uranium enrichment facility at Natanz claimed that Iran was building a new bomb-proof underground site for developing nuclear weapons.

The National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI) said the regime was near to completing a vast underground chamber that was linked by two tunnels to the existing complex at Natanz, and was protected against aerial attack.

As with so many of the allegations relating to Iran's nuclear activities, the NCRI's claims are impossible to verify, not least because Iran continues to impede UN nuclear inspectors.

And even if, as Mr Ahmadinejad claimed in New York, Iran has no interest in developing nuclear weapons, there is every indication that Teheran is preparing itself for war, not least because the clash with Western civilisation that the Iranian president so obviously desires will hasten, or so he believes, the arrival of the 12th Imam.

Before flying to the US, Mr Ahmadinejad addressed a military parade in Teheran at which he said Iran would retaliate with missile strikes against Western targets in the event of the West launching air strikes to neutralise Iran's nuclear aspirations.

Recent changes to the regime's hierarchy also suggest that the country is now being put on a war footing in anticipation of Western military action. The most significant appointment is that of Mohammed Ali Jaafari as the new head of the Revolutionary Guards.

Mr Ahmadinejad – a former Revolutionary Guards commander – regards the 200,000-strong organisation as the storm troops of the Islamic Revolution and, by appointing Mr Jaafari its new commander this month, he is giving the guards primary responsibility for protecting the country against attack.

Major-General Rahim Safavi, the previous commander, was hardly a soft touch, having masterminded the capture and subsequent release of 15 British service personnel this year.

Mr Safavi, who commanded the guards for 10 years, is understood to have fallen out with Mr Ahmadinejad and Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the country's spiritual leader, after he argued that the guards were too weak to repel an attack from abroad.

Mr Safavi was also criticised within the regime for failing to establish effective supply lines between Teheran and Hizbollah, the Iranian-funded militia in southern Lebanon. A train carrying vital military supplies for Hizbollah from Iran to Syria blew up in mysterious circumstances last May in northern Turkey, severely disrupting Iran's attempts to re-arm Hizbollah following last year's war with Israel.

Mr Jaafari, by contrast, has a proven track record as an effective Revolutionary Guards commander. Regarded in Iranian circles as an ultra-conservative, Mr Jaafari was, until recently, in charge of Iran's anti-American activities in Iraq, and narrowly escaped capture by US forces in January when the Americans seized five guards belonging to the secretive Quds force.

And, unlike his predecessor, Mr Jaafari is bullish about the Revolutionary Guards' capacity to defend Iran from attack. He attracted international attention this year when he boasted that more than 50,000 volunteers were being trained in Iran to carry out "martyrdom-seeking operations" against the West.

Just the kind of carnage Mr Ahmadinejad believes will hasten the arrival of the 12th Imam.

Posted by: Churchill1939 at September 28, 2007 4:26 AM

As always you Americans are a bit slow. The rest of the world has been following that three-step approach to climate control for years!

Posted by: Vagn Henning at September 28, 2007 5:08 AM

Back in 76 Jimmuh Carter said put on a sweater, now its shorts weather. The climate changed back and forth for millions of years before man came along. The jury is still out on why weather is changing and where it is going. Hansen has been linked to Soros and ¾ of a million dollars and his hockey stick of climate uptick was flawed so anything he says should be completely ignored. I watch the science channel and from what I see many of our scientists are leftard nutbags who probably think aliens are going to make themselves known to us at any moment, sad but true so I don’t really trust what they say.

There was an ice age coming in the 70’s according to Time mag and one idea was to melt the polar ice caps. What do they have planned this time? They have screwed up everything in the human sphere so now I guess it is time to start tampering with the weather. China, the biggest polluter will never go along. Russia will just say we’re broke you pay our way. If they don’t get their heads out of their rears and start fighting islamists the right way and quit worrying about the weather we wont have to worry about carbon or gasses, radiation will be a problem though. I have said that we need to fire them all and Col. Hunt agrees with me or vise versa.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298203,00.html

12th imam ball in NYC, they are here and livin large.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=27188_A_Party_for_a_Holocaust_Denier&only
If you click ‘like a star’and view all the other pics notice it is all men except for the show piece little girls on stage, weird.
And this picture reminds me of Tony Montana, hangin with the gang.
http://www.isna.ir/Main/PicView.aspx?Pic=Pic-1004054-4&Lang=P

Posted by: tgusa at September 28, 2007 5:22 AM

We will never starve because there is no rice.

This twit gotta go. Yesterday, long ago. She is long past her use-by date.

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/09/19/condi-rice-the-black-snake-wants-to-give-pals-16-billion-to-overcome-deficit/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at September 28, 2007 5:30 AM

tgusa,
the clown mentioned most in the time mag ice-age article back then was the same guy who now screams about warming: paul ehrlich
He's not even a climatologist (just like the "nobel laureates" touted as if experts, and weren't even close), but a botanist...
and someone like he claims to be, yet changes his mind in such a short time as a couple decades, when climate has never changed that fast, ever...is known to us a "a really big clue", as well as the recent 17,000 scientists who couldn't tolerate the charade anymore.

If one knows how the government scientists are hired, and kept on, it would also provide a really big clue...here's how in US government.
Hiring is based on need to find out yes or no.
If yes, they're kept on
If no, there's no need to proceed further, and thus no need to keep them on the payroll.
Knowing that, saying there's no evidence puts themselves out of a job, since they won't get one in the private sector...so it doesn't take a genius to figure out what they're going to say, knowing they won't willingly put themselves out of a job. That is how they're hired and kept.
So if the problem is nonexistent, and ya know they're not going to admit to anything that puts them on the unemployment line, they're going to say whatever keeps them drawing a paycheck, including lying.
I know this is accurate as my maternal uncle is #3 at DCMA (he makes/breaks contracts on the military end, extensive ties with Uncle Sam, and KNOWS how the machine works-he told me first hand-he calls them the "Department of waste of space).

Even NASA had to (quietly, of course, so as not to look like a complete ass it's already made of itself because of this snake oil. Yes, the hottest year on record is STILL 1936, not '98, as has been disproven)
change it's chicken little screeds after hansen was exposed as the fraud he was, especially after recent satellite photos taken after 2004 showing the expected resurgence of ice caps, much like a snake shedding its skin (which are conveniently omitted by the shillers), it's going to thin out, then rethicken in a pattern that's always been-it doesn't happen by dinnertime as some seem to expect, but it does happen on its own, without us.

Long term, of course we're warming up, naturally...mainly because we're still coming out of the little ice age...mankind does not have the power to change it, even if we wanted to...and that eeeeevil carbon dioxide apparently going around in overabundance is known by another name: plant food (see Photosynthesis)
CO2 is also much heavier (thus stays closer to the ground, which is why our trees aren't 30,000` tall) than THE most abundant "greenhouse gas" molecule bar none, by 45X over: water vapor, yep.
"DiHydrogen Monoxide".

Posted by: jcom972 at September 28, 2007 5:54 AM

I agree. Condhimmi must go.

Posted by: Elric66 at September 28, 2007 6:01 AM

Wait a min
Thought that was Hughs plan to stop useing oil take their money away?

Ill Winds for Mont. Wind Power Project
http://www.newsmax.com/us/wind_energy_woes/2007/09/27/36056.html
Yet political will, tax breaks and a seemingly endless supply of wind have not been enough to guarantee developers can turn wind into watts. As a result, one of the largest wind farms ever proposed in the United States has been cut to a fraction of its original size after running into opposition from an unlikely source _ environmentalists.

Posted by Marisol
Gold for you today
ROTFL
SHORT SKIRTS YEA BABY.

http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/un_undersea_tax/2007/09/25/35486.html
U.N. Wants to Tax World with Sea Treaty

But been doing some looking into the 2 Russian Officers killed looks like it might have been Iran?
No wonder there is a Tactical disagreement.

Posted by: Catherine at September 28, 2007 6:04 AM

She has a point, you know, although she probably doesn't realize it. The best way to fight both climate change and terrorism is to end our addiction to Middle Eastern oil.

Posted by: usapatriot at September 28, 2007 6:27 AM

Of course, it would be...
just get the eco-gestapo out of the way and that can be solved tomorrow.

Posted by: jcom972 at September 28, 2007 6:32 AM

Yes, climate control is more important than anything else.

Why, the greenhouse gases emitted by all the farts of humanity (carbon based after all) have caused not only sever climate changes in the earth's atmosphere, but have also caused the polar ice caps on Mars to shrink.

There's only one hope!

Al Gore et al, MUST have bigger private jets and bigger limos when traveling to conferences that warn of global warming and green house gases!

If we can all buy energy credits, then Gore will be more profitable, and that will be good for the world economy and may even spur on the Martian economy as well.

Bin Laden must be laughing in his cave right now thinking that we are all stupid idiots; I'm beinging to believe Bin Laden is right-on-the-mark with this one!

Geeez, look at what we choose for leaders!???

As someone else said "we're done!"

Posted by: witness at September 28, 2007 6:48 AM

Yes, climate control is more important than anything else.

Why, the greenhouse gases emitted by all the farts of humanity (carbon based after all) have caused not only sever climate changes in the earth's atmosphere, but have also caused the polar ice caps on Mars to shrink.

There's only one hope!

Al Gore et al, MUST have bigger private jets and bigger limos when traveling to conferences that warn of global warming and green house gases!

If we can all buy energy credits, then Gore will be more profitable, and that will be good for the world economy and may even spur on the Martian economy as well.

Bin Laden must be laughing in his cave right now thinking that we are all stupid idiots; I'm beinging to believe Bin Laden is right-on-the-mark with this one!

Geeez, look at what we choose for leaders!???

As someone else said "we're done!"

Posted by: witness at September 28, 2007 6:48 AM

Well, the biggest laughI get from that stuff is this spew about being *ahem* "carbon-neutral" or eliminating a "carbon footprint".
Ummm, newsflash...it's impossible.
Know why?
Because WE...ARE...A...CARBON...FOOTPRINT!
Only way to attain "carbon-neutrality" is to cease to exist.
Good Lord, what idiocy!
LOL

Posted by: jcom972 at September 28, 2007 6:59 AM

That statement by Condi makes it clear why the present administration can never win this war, i.e. their refusal to even clearly acknowledge who we are fighting against. Bush & Condi's 'war on terrorism' is indeed as amorphous as the enviro-freak 'war against global warming'.

Posted by: Razdan at September 28, 2007 7:01 AM

What is a gigaton??
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/09/20070925-4.html
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
September 25, 2007
President Bush Addresses The United Nations General Assembly
The United Nations Headquarters

Feeding the hungry has long been a special calling for my nation. Today, more than half the world's food assistance comes from America. We send emergency food stocks to starving people from camps in Sudan to slums in -- around the world. I've proposed an innovative initiative to alleviate hunger under which America would purchase the crops of local farmers in Africa and elsewhere, rather than shipping in food from the developed world. This would help build up local agriculture and break the cycle of famine in the developing world -- and I urge our United States Congress to support this initiative.

MY WORDS
Of course we all know now thanks to all them global warming crowd that cows fart and cause warming and growing rice and other grains also cause global warming.
Now this may sound a little crazy but bear in mind the LOST and the new taxes on the west for growing all this food for all these mulsum countries including iran. Just maybe there is a method to this madness or should I say methane [COW FARTS] yes no more beano for cows.

Remember in the mulsum books it was said that the mulsums were not farmers and lay waste to lands this is why they needed allies?

Posted by: Catherine at September 28, 2007 7:24 AM

"Rice says nations must fight climate change like terrorism".

Oh God, I hope not!

Posted by: ISLAMSFORLOSERS at September 28, 2007 7:57 AM

Hey Catherine,
We out here have a great efficient way of dealing with those methane emissions from cow farts...
we eat the cows!

Proud member of P.E.T.A.
"People Eating Tasty Animals"

:-P

Posted by: jcom972 at September 28, 2007 8:10 AM

Good Lord mixing in terrorism with man made global warming hysteria...yes the apocalypse is upon us. This Whitehouse is swimming in a PC ocean with blood in the water.

http://www.globalwarmingheartland.org/

Posted by: SoteriA at September 28, 2007 8:31 AM

I have always wondered how it is possible that the very same people who refuse to believe the mountains of evidence regarding Islam's global jihad are so quick to latch on to the extremely specious arguments that human beings are responsible for global warming.

Posted by: Razdan at September 28, 2007 9:50 AM

Well it has been warm lately, like late summer and I had still had to wear shorts late in September.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at September 28, 2007 10:02 AM

....And no, I am not into this global warming garbage.

Posted by: bigcatgirl13106 at September 28, 2007 10:04 AM

This is a red herring, put on the trail to throw off the hound chasing the jihadists. She is pandering to the lunatic lefties who think the warming trend is man made. The Republicans seem to be scared of the prospects for the 2008 election results.

Why has no one proposed methods to actually reverse warming, such as dispersing minute particles in the high atmosphere to reflect the solar heat? Everything currently proposed by global warmingists will not reverse the trend.

Manipulating the global warming fear is an effort by a small number of elitists to take over the worlds economy.

You all realize that there a wonderful cooling trend can be started with just a few nuclear explosions.

The primary "green house" gas is water vapor, not CO2, dammit!!!

Posted by: Pelayo at September 28, 2007 10:20 AM

Damn!

I don't look good in shorts.

Posted by: LoneRanger at September 28, 2007 10:28 AM

From Yahoo news:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070928/ap_on_go_pr_wh/global_warming

George and other Rebublicans are pandering to the left. It is the same as Clinton pandering to the right.

Let me second what One_of_the_last_few_Patriots_left said:

Stick a fork in us; we're done.

Do these slugs realize how much useful land in the far north will become arable?

For those of you in Hobbs, New Mexico, arable means suitable for cultivation, meaning food can be grown.

Posted by: Pelayo at September 28, 2007 11:16 AM

"Rice says nations must fight climate change like terrorism"

...ok....i am shooting some bullets into the sun...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at September 28, 2007 11:45 AM

The Libs were very disappointed that the United Nations did not keep Global Warming on the top of their priority list. How could anyone believe that a nuclear Iran is more of a threat to the world than global warming? ;) What would nuclear war do to the Earth's temperature?

As in the War on Terror, the Kyoto Treaty exempts third world countries such as China and India for politically correct reasons. I read horror stories about coal burning and pollution in China. The Libs claim that China is fighting global warming with its one-child policy. LOL
--
YnkConn

Posted by: CTYankee at September 28, 2007 11:54 AM

I know some here believe that cow farts and SUV emissions are warming the Earth, but folks, the Earth has gone through many climate changes in the eons of time.
We could be turning into a wasteland planet like Mars, how are you going to stop that? Might as well try to stop the Earth from spinning.
Condi was a huge disappointment. Matter of fact, this whole administration should be sued for misrepresentation, they said they were Conservatives and have out-democrated (sp?) the Democrats.

Posted by: interestinconundrum at September 28, 2007 12:05 PM

Michael Moore and Al Gore think that G W Bush *caused* Hurricane Katrina by not fighting global warming. LOL

Posted by: CTYankee at September 28, 2007 12:14 PM

Nations must fight climate change like (we now are fighting) terrorism...

In other words, if human-caused global warming does indeed exist, we must intentionally fight the fight with the goal being total abject defeat?

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at September 28, 2007 12:21 PM

Greetings:

I have long thought that to be a liberal one must have missed out on the lessons of two fairy tales in one's early education.

The first would be Chicken Little. Believe it or not, not every difficulty portends the end of our existence. Why we can't approach climate warming as a problem to study and formulate countermeasures for in a state of emotional equilibrium is, to me,
disappointing.

The second woud be the Princess and the Pea. No matter what progress is made in ameliorating a problem, it is still there. There is no sense that things might not get better or that making them better will require the use of larger and larger amounts of resources which will only produce proportionally less and less positive results.

These two educational shortcomings seem to be particularly prevalent among environmentalists and designated victim groups.

Posted by: 11B40 at September 28, 2007 12:25 PM

"ok....i am shooting some bullets into the sun"
Posted by: exsgtbrown

LOL!!

Condi, what about the research pointing to solar flares contributing to global warming? She made no mention of that:

http://www.aip.org/pnu/2003/split/642-2.html

Posted by: champ at September 28, 2007 12:43 PM

I have scoffed at liberal Democrats for underemphasizing or completely ignoring the threat of the global jihad, while trumping up the threat of global warming. How big a role man plays in the phenomena of global warming is still up for debate. There are mountains of geological evidence that the warming is cyclical with man having negligible impact, but of course, the liberals are out there already with carbon credits, gas guzzler tax increases, and all the other such nonsense as the tools to implement what they are really after, increased government control.

Meanwhile, the cancer of Islam is spreading over the planet, and now Condi proposes we address the global warming issue with the same vision we are applying to the war on terror. I think this is a product of Bush losing control of congress, and caving into another Democrat pet project. I wonder how much more he is going to look like a Democrat before he steps down.

Posted by: Paleologos at September 28, 2007 1:02 PM

I think the vulcano's and the sun are conspiring. They are part of the 'Warmhabi' Lobby.

I guess, if we citizens are to fight global warming like we fight terrorism, the Condi and the State Department will start bringing in 10's of thousands of Enviromental Violators as immigrants into the U.S.

Condi is going to need sensativity training.

I cannot fight against global warming. I for one 'I am one' with the global warmers. I am going to strap a match to my belt and go 'take out' a couple of logs in my fire place.

Our motto....

ALASKANS FOR GLOBAL WARMING. (I am freezing my butt off).

Posted by: alaskan1000 at September 28, 2007 1:06 PM

Man-made global warming is the great hysteria of our time. CO2 levels were ten times what they are today some 450 million years ago during the Paleozoic Era when the earth went through an horrific ice age, far more severe than the most recent one whose Wisconsin glaciation stage ended about 12,000 years ago. Also, man pumps about 6 billion metric tons a year of CO2 into the atmosphere, which is a pittance compared to the over 200 billion metric tons the oceans do on a yearly basis. There's even a fair amount of evidence showing that CO2 has a cooling effect in the higher levels of the atmosphere. It's sad to see the Bush Administration succumb to junk science nonsense. Just imagine what a Hillary Clinton Administration will do here. Meanwhile, radical Muslims across the earth have no intention to desist from waging eternal war on the West. Goofy world. It's at times like this that I'm very glad to have a wonderful wife who loves me and good beer in my refrigerator.

Posted by: Wellington at September 28, 2007 1:15 PM

Nobody should have expected the Bush Administration, with its generations long association with the Saudis, to have responded appropriately to Islamic terrorism, esp. that sponsored and protected by Saudi Arabia. Nobody should have expected an untried academic, with expertise in Cold War Russia, to have comprehended the realities of the Middle East. Nobody should have expected a guy who ran prize shows for Arabian Horse owners to know how to deal with a Katrina sized disaster. Nobody should have expected a man who scraped his way through college, only to be handed his millions by Daddy's bagmen, to have appropriately managed the economy. The only issue where Bush has actually done alright was on the global warming issue and the Kyoto Treaty (basically continuing Clinton's policy only without Clinton's hypocrisy). Now, here we are, in late 2007, and Kyoto has already proven a costly failure, the requirements of which even its European advocates cannot meet (despite rigging the requirements in favor of their ability to comply - and that's just Phase I). Moreover, with all the science which has become available since 1996, it is becoming frankly impossible even to believe in the premise which underlies Kyoto, namely this myth of a "carbon-forced, anthropogenic global warming". And yet, here's Bush-League, suddenly reversing himself on that issue and racing to embrace one last disaster before he goes out of office. We might have prevailed in Afghanistan, but for the needless distraction of Iraq (and its inevitable corollary in the increased threat of Iran). Are we now to completely undo ourselves by switching our efforts from the real threat (control of our energy supplies by radical Islamists) to a wholly manufactured one (global warming)? Well, let's hope that this latest, silly misadventure plays out by forcing us to wean ourselves off of Persian Gulf oil. That's the best we can hope for.

Posted by: oldefarte at September 28, 2007 1:34 PM

I agree with what most contributors here are writing this is like a wild west medicine show, one bottle will fix all yer ailments. The Earth is just so massive for humans I am not sure if humans can even effect her permanently there are too many forces at work. Except by a group of nuclear madmen hell bent on martyrdom possibly. The Ocean is the number one emitter of carbon, rotting vegetation is second but as jcom said, plant food. More people have been to the moon than to the deepest part of the sea they are discovering species thought to be extinct all the time.

One of the greatest forces on Earth are Volcanoes and they are still trying to figure them out. And lets not forget about that Sun, the Sun where they are just beginning to document all the wonders taking place that they thought were impossible. So they don’t completely understand the ocean, they barely understand Volcanoes and they are amazed by the workings of the Sun but they can change the weather? Sure. The Ocean floor slowly slides away volcanoes erupt cleansing everything in their path and all the Earth is reclaimed in time. On the greenhouse issue, we all would rather live in one of those as opposed to a freezer right?

Oh I should mention that it is unseasonably cool in Socal right now, whats up? I believe that this has been hyped up by our enemies to wreck our economy. I can’t think of a more inept administration except carter. They are a ship without a rudder their sails long since torn to pieces floating along were ever they weather pushes them all the while burning brain cells and turning their snake oil into gas. But when the current administration goes we will still be stuck on stupid the same old hacks will still be at their desks on that pathetic ghost ship.

Posted by: tgusa at September 28, 2007 2:04 PM

Forget wearing shorts. They will be outlawed under pigslam.

Posted by: TexasInfidel at September 28, 2007 2:22 PM

Radiant Heat Transfer Class is now in session.

Using the common vernacular I'll call water vapor a "green house gas". This is exclusive of clouds; clouds are another topic, this is the vapor that cannot be seen. Water vapor allows the short wave radiation from the sun to pass through to the surface. The surface is warmed and also emits short wave radiation that heats the water vapor and thusly through convection, heats the air. This is also a positive feedback. As the air warms, it is able to hold more vapor, and more water vapor causes more heating and so on. The contribution of CO2 to the green house effect is overblown in my opinion.

It has been extimated that if Earth's atmosphere were as dry as Mars's, the average air temp on earth would be about 55 deg F lower than it is now.

Those of you who live in dry cimates will experience a wider daytime to nightime temperature range as compared to humid climates.

Conversly, during cooling periods, air holds less vapor, and therefore, there is less warming of the air.

A quickie course on water vaopor.

It is not about global warming; it's about political control.

Posted by: Pelayo at September 28, 2007 2:57 PM

Damn, folks...LOL

I came here, armed & ready...and y'all beat me to it! lol...well, done. I needn't add a thing.

I would like to throw this theory out to chew on:
Being since the brownshirts of political correctness are on the side of both terrorists and this *ahem* "global warming" theory as if it's fact (to the point of being violent towards anyone who dares scrutinize their already weak and insecure position), and being since attaining that ridiculous goal of the GWists mean 99% of the population would have to die (since their "alternatives" would barely sustain 1% of the population anyway)...

There IS a bigger death cult than the terrorist death cult we're discussing in this forum, and if not stopped dead in its tracks and purged completely from the faceof the Earth, will kill you, me, and everyone else who "doesn't worship the beast"ly beliefs and methodologies:

political correctness
666 anyone?

Think about it.

Posted by: jcom972 at September 28, 2007 7:29 PM

www.realclimate.org

http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics

Posted by: Hugh at September 28, 2007 11:42 PM

Thanks Hugh.

Posted by: ewha1 at September 29, 2007 12:44 AM

Hugh, that's an awesome link. Have you thought about providing a similar document here at JW/DW concerning responses for the most common skeptical arguments on Islamo-taqiyya? You've already provided most of the responses in many of your past postings.

Typical headings:

Islam is a Religion of Peace
Christianity is equally violent
There is no compulsion in religion
Suicide is forbidden in Islam
Islam believes in Jesus
Islam protects and honors women
Islam was not "spread by the sword"
The Quran is the final, uncorrupted, unquestionalble, literal word of God.
etc. etc.

Posted by: Xero G at September 29, 2007 12:52 AM

*ahem*
http://epw.senate.gov/fact.cfm?party=rep&id=264568
noted site endorsements didn't help, either.

Posted by: jcom972 at September 29, 2007 2:34 AM

XeroG:" Hugh, that's an awesome link. Have you thought about providing a similar document here at JW/DW concerning responses for the most common skeptical arguments on Islamo-taqiyya? You've already provided most of the responses in many of your past postings."

Now that's what I call an idea

Posted by: ewha1 at September 29, 2007 3:01 AM

Man-made global warming hoax:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io-Tb7vTamY

Carbon dioxide levels rise because of warming, not the other way around. Carbon dioxide is an effect, not the cause. (Watch the clip.)

Posted by: Gerry at September 29, 2007 3:33 AM

Hugh, I don't know if you are still reading this thread... but if so, I hope you do get to see this post. You passed on a link to a site that seems to 'answer' all the questions put forth by the skeptics of the science of anthropogenic or man-made global warming. I hope you haven't concluded, on the basis of this site, that since these questions have been 'answered' the issues have been settled. What is evident IMHO is that this site cleverly mis-answers all the questions that have been raised and selectively quotes results to make its case that the science of anthropogenic global warming is rock solid; when in actuality, it is anything but.

I don't have the time or energy to go into pointing out the details of where the discrepancies are; and frankly speaking, this is not the right forum for such a discussion. The bottom line, as far as I am concerned, is this: the study of climate change, especially when it is done on a global scale, is immensely complex. We hardly even know all the variables that can affect climate change let alone what complex ways they interact with each other. We can hardly predict weather patterns a week in advance, even with the use of superfast supercomputers, and that too in a localized area and yet we are being asked to make significant policy decisions based on computer simulations that have never been really tested to see if they can actually make a prediction that can be verified. The media has been quick to act as the judge and jury in making a 'case closed' about the science. Any scientist questioning this 'theory' of man-made global warming is viciously attacked by the media or presented as disgruntled crank-pots with their pockets being lined by special interest companies. What the media has refused to do is to put the same level of scrutiny and questioning to the scientists who are pedaling the 'theory' (and that is what it really is at this point in time) of man-made (through increased CO2 emission) global warming and its supposedly disastrous consequences.

Posted by: Razdan at September 30, 2007 12:27 AM

The one thing that turned people off was the fanatical reactions (see my last post) that called for "nuremberg-style" trials for skeptics...that's not the actions of sound, grounded reaonable positions, and forced many to rightfully question it...and suspect that something is terribly amiss, especially when looking into the most vocal proponents of this "anthropogenic-" stuff, even more especially their politics, which causes an even bigger turn-off to the people wanting simple answers to simple questions without someone screaming at them with the same fervor as islamists do their own "cause" (and yes, in some cases outright violent as well)...just ask Bjorn Lomborg & their death threats made on him. That right there sets off alarms all over the place.

Posted by: jcom972 at September 30, 2007 2:43 AM