Bosnian?

I thought the Bosnians were grateful to the USA for saving them from Milosevic?

Did I miss something?

Oh, that's right, they're Muhammadans.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at October 1, 2007 12:23 PM

He was there for the coffee and biscuits brunch.

Posted by: TheOmegaMan at October 1, 2007 12:25 PM

To quote the BBC:

'...it was not clear whether the attempted attack had an Islamic background'

Yeah, whatever...

Posted by: Inzane at October 1, 2007 12:40 PM

Why did the FSNs let him in the gate? What legitimate business with the embassy did he have?

I can guarantee you, if this story is accurate, the RSO is having some Austrian ass for breakfast.

I can also tell you there are some itchy fingers at Post 1.

Posted by: infidel! at October 1, 2007 12:41 PM

Ynkedoodl2:
"I thought the Bosnians were grateful to the USA for saving them from Milosevic?"

Long-forgotten, huh?

Immaterial anyway, for as we found out through the Raymond Ibrahim article on AQ's reasons for fighting us, it's not about what we do or don't do.

They hate us because we are not Islam.

Posted by: JohnAdams at October 1, 2007 12:48 PM

Hey everybody, it's obviously just another angry carpenter. He most likely got laid off from his job because of Bush's tax cuts for the wealthiest one percent.

Nothing to do with religion. Go back to your homes.

Posted by: Goob at October 1, 2007 12:48 PM

CAIR is suing for the return of the Misunderstander's backpack...

Posted by: JohnAdams at October 1, 2007 12:51 PM

Yeah don't you know explosives and nails come in the "____ is Peace" starter kit along with some important "holy" reading materials.

Posted by: americanmadestrat at October 1, 2007 1:12 PM

He should have tried the British embassy, being a Jihadist friendly state they would have welcomed the bloodthirsty lunatic with open arms.

Posted by: waltc at October 1, 2007 1:23 PM

Nothing to this story at all except rampant racism against Moslems: Those were only fireworks he was carrying around.

Seriously, I'm happy this chap was grabbed before he could get inside. I tip my hat to the Marine at the gate.

Posted by: livefreeordie! at October 1, 2007 1:41 PM

Clinton evil blowback. And this is only the beginning. Bush tarnishes himself with Clinton's Kosovo abominations in a desperate quest to notch-up a "foreign policy success" somewhere, anywhere, instead of doing his duty and taking a decisive action to remove the intolerable Iranian threat. What an idiot.
Vote for Rudy and pray it is not too late.

Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

Posted by: Enragedsince1999 at October 1, 2007 1:45 PM

To quote the BBC:

'...it was not clear whether the attempted attack had an Islamic background'

In BBCeera doubleplusgoodnewspeak that means that there was a clearcut islamic background to the attack.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at October 1, 2007 1:53 PM

Give the guy a break! He's obviously an informer who came to the embassy with the literature and a ready-made bomb so that he could show us what to look for the next time someone like him shows up at the door with a backpack of greetings.
He's helping us fight the "extremists" who have "hijacked" his great(?) religion.

He only ran because he didn't want to be treated as he is currently being treated: as a person of interest.

(Too bad not even one sliver of this is true!!!)

Posted by: PMK at October 1, 2007 1:59 PM

classic obfuscation

From Reuters:

The man, a 42-year-old resident of Lower Austria province near Vienna, was being questioned. "He appears to be a bit confused," Edelbacher said, adding that there were no initial indications he had an Islamist background.

Explosives, islamic literature and Bosnian muslim identity aside, of course.

Posted by: infidel! at October 1, 2007 2:00 PM

But Clinton "fixed" Bosnia, right? Gave it back to the muslims as I recall.

So this can't be a terror attack against the U.S. right?.................? I bet they were just fake grenades with pretty flowers in them, right..........?

Posted by: n.a. palm at October 1, 2007 2:01 PM

Bravo-Zulu to the jarhead(s) watching the door. Too bad the "visitor" can not be introduced to Mr. Ka-bar.

Posted by: MP at October 1, 2007 2:04 PM

"He appears to be a bit confused," Edelbacher said, adding that there were no initial indications he had an Islamist background.

Confused? He didn't mean to make a bomb & place it in his backpack? He walked up to the wrong embassy? WHAT?!?? WHAT GIVES YOU THE IDEA HE IS SO F*ING CONFUSED?!?!?!????

Posted by: Miss_Anthrope at October 1, 2007 2:07 PM

Not the first Bosnian moslem who wants to punish us for our "good deeds".

Once again: Let's make a deal with the Russians. Let them have greater influence in the Balkans in exchange for tougher action against iran.

Posted by: Allahfanculo at October 1, 2007 2:07 PM

"During initial questioning, the man "seemed very confused," Austrian investigators reported."

.....evidently his Islamic slavemaster cleric has not prepared him for interrogation...he was supposed to be dead....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at October 1, 2007 2:17 PM

! ! ! ! Rudy rocks ! ! ! !

Folks, I've personally met Rudy on Saturday, September 29 & contributed to his campaign. He is forceful, confident, articulate, sharp-witted - a true leader. And his record speaks for itself. During 4 previous mayors, everybody was unanimous calling New York City "ungovernable". I don't know if you remember it then: one of the homicide capitals of the world, a symbol of urban decay and urban flight, seemingly hopelessly stuck in debt, race riots, pogroms and lynchings. But look how Rudy turned it around! He slashed homicide and all kinds of crime by half, cleaned up the city, slashed taxes, and yet got the city out of debt and into the black, revitalized it, turning it into a huge magnet. Instead of fleeing it, people flock to it. He turned it from a huge unholy Babylon into Jerusalem of Gold! Even 9/11 could noy derail it. His hand-picked successor Bloomberg was just good enough not to ruin Rudy's good works. If he did this for New York City, imagine what he can do for the entire United States!
We desperately need him in the White House, now that the mad suicide bomber Ahmadinejad is within a short reach of the ultimate bomb. The threat is all too real. I am not exagerating this at all. Everyone who cares about the very survival of this country, read "Lightning Out Of Lebanon" by Tom Diaz and Barbara Newman: Iran has already pre-deployed Hezbollah suicide bombers in US cities, ready to strike. What are they waiting for? Iranian nukes to be smuggled in. We must get our minds out of the usual partisan box. Devout Catholics and Evangelical Christians especially: we can sort out abortion and family values later. SURVIVAL COMES FIRST! Rudy is the only statesman in the field. Visit his website JoinRudy2008.com.
Vote for Rudy and pray it is not too late.

Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

Posted by: Enragedsince1999 at October 1, 2007 2:23 PM

We should be grateful that some of these creatures do not think and plan. Metal detectors are everywhere, and he had a sack full of nails? How many terrorist attacks have failed, not because of good police work, but because of stupid, potential killers? Perhaps the smart, dangerous killers are already dead, we can only hope. They are like serial killers, the real cagy, intelligent ones are on the loose and may never be caught.

This might be a new phenomenon, a lone wolf jihadist who does not have a mentor or a support group to teach him about the intricacies of avoiding security measures and making bombs. A true blue killer would have detonated the bomb as soon as the detector went beep. It has happened several times in Israel.

Posted by: Pelayo at October 1, 2007 2:24 PM

Give the guy a break fellas. He was at the embassy to get a visa - for paradise. Where else but the American embassy would he go?

Posted by: DP111 at October 1, 2007 2:26 PM

"He appears to be a bit confused," Edelbacher said.

Must be - he stooped taking his medication.

Posted by: DP111 at October 1, 2007 2:30 PM

Maybe he was just re-enacting the Ottoman siege of Vienna in 1683?

Sadly to 72 goats for him just lots of lonely nights in an infidel prison fending off attention from Big Bubba on C wing!

Posted by: fido at October 1, 2007 2:31 PM

Ah, "secular" Bosnian Muslims...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3JEh33ZZdw

Posted by: LazarOfSerbia at October 1, 2007 3:16 PM

Gave it back to the muslims as I recall.

Thy never HAD it.. the turks invaded the Balkans and islamicized some of the local population. The lasting effects of that fed into WW1 and by extension WW2.

We do NOT need the turks to meddle in Europe!

NO to turkey and ANY islamic hellhole in the EU!!

Posted by: Allahfanculo at October 1, 2007 3:24 PM

Ynkedoodl2 wrote:
-----------quote--------------------------------
Bosnian?

I thought the Bosnians were grateful to the USA for saving them from Milosevic?

Did I miss something?

Oh, that's right, they're Muhammadans.
------------end quote----------------------------

The Fort Dix Six were Bosnian, too. They wanted to show their gratitude to the US for saving them from Serb-run death camps. What better way to show their gratitude than to attempt to blow up a US military base?

Posted by: CTYankee at October 1, 2007 4:13 PM

Fort Dix Six were Albanians from Kosovo area, the same ones whom G.W.Bush wants to give independent country on Serbian territory. And there were now Serb-run death camps, this is fraud:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj7uuRKPFYI

Posted by: LazarOfSerbia at October 1, 2007 4:29 PM

Correction:

* "And there were NO Serb-run death camps"

Posted by: LazarOfSerbia at October 1, 2007 4:30 PM

Poor confused man of unknown religion and unknown motivation.

*If only* he had seen the "Islam is peace" posters currently on display in the UK.

*Sigh*

That UK group will just have to lobby to have the posters put up in every country: that'll eliminate the confusion.

Surely to goodness other countries have vast anti-Islamophobia budgets that need to be spent before their fiscal year-end?

(Coming soon to a Canadian bus near me.) (That's my prediction.)

Posted by: Josephine at October 1, 2007 4:47 PM

explosives and nails come in the "____ is Peace" starter kit" - americanmadestrat.

for some reason, this idea has had me laughing for the past 10 minutes.
it just about compensated for the unpleasant feelings induced by reading the "confused" and "no initial indications he had an Islamist background" stuff.
the 7/21 bombers in London were confused too, when only their detonators worked...

Posted by: M Al-Content at October 1, 2007 4:59 PM

Enragedsince1999

I agree with you 100%. Rudy may have a high sex drive but what's wrong with that?! The dhimmicrats had a Philanderer in the White House.. a Philanderer who was soft on terror and let Looney-bin Laden get away. Nor did he retaliate in a meaningful way against acts of terror.

Rudy was Mayor after Dhimmikins the Pinkins.. the great "racial healer" who allowed Jews to be killed in Brooklyn pogrom-style.

Let there be NO doubt about that. I lived in Brooklyn at the time and that's *exactly* what went on.

The "rev" Al slim Shady sharpton was feeding fuel into the fire.. nowadays he presides over who gets fired and who gets hired at CBS and so forth.

What a JOKE!

I could never vote Dhimmicrat just because they gave this racist fraud a platform at their convention. He should have been excluded from the Party.

Anyway.. New York will most likely get a socialist mayor when Bloomberg is done.

I am planning my move already.

Still need to figure out where to go. Seems like the whole country is filled with moslems.. maybe Wyoming might be a good place for me..

And yes, the terrorists will do all kinds of stuff in New York once we attack iran.

Good job, dhimya.. keeping the borders open so we won't have to fight 'em over here!!

IDIOT!!!!!!!!

Puts all our troops in harm's way without the proper means to fight.. hamstrung by restrictive R.O.E...

I'd have started sealing up the borders the afternoon of 9.11.2001. By use of the military.

None in and noone out... until further notice.

Then sweep up the agents of terror in our midst and expel them..

Posted by: Allahfanculo at October 1, 2007 5:44 PM

In 2002, I began asking anyone who matters the question of lack of clarification of the enemy, and I cited HUAC's Cold War book, "Facts on Communism," as exemplary of what should have been done with Islamofascism. Unfortunately, all but a few bought the Bush Family "islam is peace" BS. As I write, Bush continues to indulge State Department consultation fees paid to unindicted co-conspirator group, Islamic Society of North America, for consultation on "Islamic affairs." Then there is the matter of "Homeland Security" setting up a booth beside a Hizb ut Tahrir front at a recent convention.

Was Afghanistan a success? Hardly, the Afghan Army hands back every piece of land for which NATO troops fought and died for. And under NATO indulgence of the piece of Pashto crap, Karzai, that demographic sewer has degenerated from a producer of raw opium, to a major producer of heroin that flows to 5 continents. As for Iraq's "democratic" government, all but a handful of parliamentarians are tied to one Islamofascist group or another. Americans believe Bush snakeoil about the export of "freedom." That is not what is happening. The leader of the Free World is creating conditions for the advancement of the worst enemy of freedom to ever pollute the earth. That is not to say that Bush dhimmism is a catastrophe; it would have to step up 10 degrees to become a catastrophe. Future generations will refer to America's response to the loss of lives and over a Trillion dollars in economic losses as: the Age of Stupidity.

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=773301436&searchurl=sts%3Dt%26tn%3DFacts%2Bon%2BCommunism%26x%3D0%26y%3D0

The GWOT will be won until a US President is prepared to identify America's mortal enemy, and then start killing them by the millions.

Posted by: supercargo at October 1, 2007 5:55 PM

The man, who was wearing a red baseball cap, spoke broken German and was carrying a book with Islamic references, police said. Edelbacher cautioned that investigators didn't know the suspect's religious background and were still trying to determine a motive.

More classic cover up - from the Washington bleep.

Posted by: infidel! at October 1, 2007 6:26 PM

Ah yes, another confused man of 'Bosnian origin'-read [Moslem] who-driven mad by the sight of exposed bosoms & beer swilling Fests taking place
over Austria-without ordinary outlet of decapitating
Serbs-was 'called by Allah', to detonate grenades
at American Embassy in Vienna. He is mentally ill
of course with that disease called ISLAM.
Re: 'Srebrenica Massacre'so far only 3,000 bodies
have been found, about the same number as Serbs in
villages around this area who were tortured,blown
up & murdered by Naser Oric and his Muslim accomplices-something entirely ignored by Western
Media. Despite hysterical claims by Mad Maddy Albright & her 'satellite disturbed earth'[obvious these mass graves could be pin pointed] no more corpses have been found.
What about those supposed to be DEAD who can be found living in Sarajevo today...??
Lastly, would like to point out to ALL MORALISTS
that U.S & Britain HAVE KILLED MILLIONS WITH THEIR
BOMBS-suppose it is much 'cleaner' to incinerate
people from the air instead of hand to hand
fighting-makes their claim to moral 'high ground'
so much more plausible,eh.

A

Posted by: Morgane at October 1, 2007 6:59 PM

The explosives were just a fashion statement. He was there to pass out tracts and convert the infidels and convince them to join the World Peace Movement.

Posted by: AllahSnackbar at October 1, 2007 7:54 PM

Ya misspelled pi$$, 'snackbar.
(/sarc)
lol

Posted by: jcom972 at October 1, 2007 8:28 PM

Not only that, Morgane, but in the Krle trial - the first of the senior VRS officers to be tried - almost half of the "missing" Bosnian muslims didn't have a full D of Birth.

Now how realistic is that? If you went missing, how many relatives, friends could provide simple D of B info?

In addition, for the Blagojević and Jokić, the defence managed to get a look at the entire list. In a couple of hours they found dozens of duplicates. Now get this, these duplicates were adjacent on the list. That's right, the exact same name, D of B, fathers name and place of birth, one after the other.

Now these duplicates stick out a mile - open the phone book and you'll see how easy it is to spot the duplicate names and initials and here we're talking about everything being the same - yet the ICTY somehow hadn't spotted these duplicates. A primary school kid could spend a whopping 10 minutes to write a simple computer program that would highlight any identical data and nearly identical data but the ICTY with a quarter of a billion bucks a year couldn't: hell, you could just spend - like the defence did- a couple of hours, simply skimming over the list. But no, the ICTY somehow couldn't do that, with all their manpower.

The point I'm making is the that the Bosnians were padding the list, including everyone they could think of, and then adding duplicates, etc. The ICTY, UN, all those truly awful NGO's of the world happily went along for the ride. As did the MSM.

Also, the demographics research was only interested in compiling a list of missing Bosnian muslims for the time in question - i.e. circa July 95 and a couple of months later- this allowed the muslims to add essentially everyone who'd lost their life in the whole of eastern Bosnia in the civil war, onto that list.

The ICTY's demographics report got shredded in the Blagojević and Jokić trial, by their defense expert witness. Shredded it was.

And now the nutters are showing their thanks to the West with the aid of some nails, explosives, etc.

I think that's slightly ironic.

Posted by: ewha1 at October 2, 2007 2:54 AM

supercargo,
you're right about America's enemy identification... especially it's most mortal enemy...
problem is, it's not from without.
It's the totalitarian death cult that's much bigger than all the mOslems on the planet, and has more adherents: political correctness.

That's 90% of the battle.

Posted by: jcom972 at October 2, 2007 3:05 AM

"* "And there were NO Serb-run death camps"

Posted by: LazarOfSerbia"

....there were approximately 677 prisoner camps, some such as the Omarska camp, did indeed have brutal treatment of prisoners....very brutal....and while they did not have ovens to burn the people, they certainly did torture, starve, beat, and kill them....and the Camps were run by the Serbs....it is a historical fact...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at October 2, 2007 7:59 AM

----------AP quote------------------------------
Last month, authorities arrested three suspected al-Qaida operatives — all Austrian citizens of Arab origin in their 20s — in connection with a video posted online in March that had threatened *Austria* and *Germany* with attacks if they did not withdraw their military personnel from *Afghanistan*.

One of the suspects was released several days later for lack of evidence. Authorities in Canada, meanwhile, arrested another suspect believed to be linked to the Internet threat.
---------end quote------------------------------

Since when does Austria have military personnel in Afghanistan? Germany is a member of NATO but Austria is not. Austria is supposed to be "neutral", like Switzerland and Sweden.
--
CTYank

Posted by: CTYankee at October 2, 2007 9:04 AM

Austrians are in Afghanistan under the auspices of UNAMA (United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan).

Posted by: exsgtbrown at October 2, 2007 10:58 AM

As of July 2007, there were approximately 39,000 troops from 37 nations (including 11 non-NATO states) contributing personnel to ISAF. The largest NATO contributors are the United States (14,750), the UK (6,500), Germany (3,000), Canada (2,500), Italy (2,500) and the Netherlands (1,300).

Albania 30 Italy 2,500
Australia 700 Latvia 35
Austria 2 Lithuania 130
Azerbaijan 20 Luxembourg 10
Belgium 295 Netherlands 1,300
Bulgaria 400 New Zealand 150
Canada 2,500 Norway 500
Croatia 175 Poland 1,075
Czech Republic 220 Portugal 150
Denmark 400 Romania 500
Estonia 110 Slovakia 60
Finland 70 Slovenia 50
France 800 Spain 650
FYROM 120 Sweden 260
Germany 3,000 Switzerland 2
Greece 145 Turkey 1,200
Hungary 180 United Kingdom 6,500
Iceland 9 United States of America 14,750
Ireland 5

Posted by: exsgtbrown at October 2, 2007 11:09 AM

Yeah Morgane don’t you just hate it when the bad boys from the west bomb people .

Seeing as you are talking about the aerial bombing of millions I’ll take it you are talking about WWII. If I remember correctly that war was started by a power mad German and I take offence at any suggestion that the members of my family who fought and/ or died fighting “hand to hand” took any sort of misplaced moral high ground. In truth they were doing their duty against a repressive, expansive regime. And there are plenty of them around still.

Posted by: The Other Mert at October 2, 2007 11:44 AM

@exsgtbrown

"there were approximately 677 prisoner camps"

That's correct - prisoner camps. Not nazi-style "death camps" like it was portrayed in western mass media. When you are in war, you need to keep your war prisoners somewhere and yes, usually treatment of the people who had slaughtered your relatives and friends is not very kind. Ask your Iraq veterans about that. But Serbs didn't run death camps, that's a lie.

Watch carefully:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj7uuRKPFYI
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-EMQ2i0YBY
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a2KgWlxEqI

Posted by: LazarOfSerbia at October 2, 2007 12:46 PM

Well said LazarofSerbia. A world of difference between prisoner camps and concentration camps.

People who equate Nazi concentrations camps with these prisoner camps are usually just pathetic Holocaust revisionists.

Posted by: ewha1 at October 3, 2007 1:41 AM

From exsgtbrown : "there were approximately 677 prisoner camps, some such as the Omarska camp, did indeed have brutal treatment of prisoners....very brutal....and while they did not have ovens to burn the people, they certainly did torture, starve, beat, and kill them....and the Camps were run by the Serbs....it is a historical fact...

677????????? 677???????

Hilarious. I don't supposed you'll provide any links will you.

677 ???????????

Hilarious. Even the rabid Islamic press didn't go that far.

677?????????

A couple of questions, exsgtbrown.

1 What is your definition of a prison camp?

2 What are you smoking?

Posted by: ewha1 at October 3, 2007 2:14 AM

Read the Dutch report into the Bosnian war. Now, they very much took the side of the Bosnians in the report, yet it's still not without merit.

"However, on 3 June 1992 a group of Bosnian humanitarian organizations published a list with the names of 94 Serb camps in Bosnia, in which a total of 105,348 prisoners were said to be detained, and 11 camps in Serbia and Montenegro with another 22,710 detainees"

Posted by: ewha1 at October 3, 2007 3:22 AM

A sure sign that even the 94 figure is an exaggeration is the fact that the Bosnians were also claiming that there were 11 prison camps in Yugoslavia ( Serbia and Montenegro ). This was an out and out lie.

1992 was the highwater mark for muslim refugees, prisoners, etc. After the initial territorial gains, the Bosnian Serbs went on the strategic defence for the remainder of the war.

Posted by: ewha1 at October 3, 2007 3:36 AM

Final report of the United Nations Commission of Experts
established pursuant to
security council resolution 780 (1992)

The reports reviewed alleged a total of 677 camps within BiH. Among those camps, 333 (49.2 per cent) were alleged to have been controlled by Bosnian Serbs; 83 (12.2 per cent) by Bosnian Muslims; 51 (7.5 per cent), by Croats; 31 (4.6 per cent) by both Croats and Muslims; 5 (.7 per cent), by private parties; and 174 (25.7 per cent) by unidentified forces..

......subsequent investigations verified 80% of the numbers indicated in the above report...the remainder of the camps were apparently closed before the investigators could locate them or they were merged with existing camps....

.....the camps were real and in a few, the treatment was bad...it is just a fact...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at October 3, 2007 6:26 AM

....by the way this report gives the locations of many of the camps and descriptions of treatment of prisoners found in the camps....it is a long report, but worth reading , even if just for your information....I found it to be very interesting...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at October 3, 2007 6:30 AM

exsgtbrown quotes A UN report?!?!?!?!?

The UN. The Dhimmiest organisation in the entire Dhimmi world, produces some "research" that says that the infidels are guilty and the muslims are innocent. And this, to excgtbrown, is "a historical fact"

What next exsgtbrown? Will you quote some Al Jazeera research into the innate evilness of the VRS ? Or perhaps quote from an Al Qaeda beheading video filmed in Bosnia 95?

Even the Bosnian Gov't talked of less than 100 Serb run prison camps in June of that year. How to explain that?

Anyway, line by line, let's see the evidence.

Your original post was exsgtbrown"..there were approximately 677 prisoner camps, some such as the Omarska camp, did indeed have brutal treatment of prisoners....very brutal....and while they did not have ovens to burn the people, they certainly did torture, starve, beat, and kill them....and the Camps were run by the Serbs....it is a historical fact..."

1) Well for starters you've immediately changed the goalposts. In your earlier post you'd stated that the 677 camps were run by the Serbs. You spoke of no one else running them. Only the Bosnian Serbs.

2) Even that woeful report spoke of the Serbs running only half of the total, so your changing the numbers like the weather changes.

3) And what about all those camps which those intrepid and resolute UN researchers looked at but were unable to figure out who was running them?

How, oh how, is it possible to visit a camp and be unable to figure out who was running it? In your figures they were unable to find out who was running the show in many of the cases. In the figures I quote - see below, which I think are the true numbers that UN report used- almost half of the supposed camps were under some kind of mystery ownership.

Hey! Maybe those "don't know" camps were being run by those UFO's that do experiments on cattle. Or perhaps OJ is involved in those "mystery" camps. It's not even a "Twighlight Zone" plot. But you think this all adds up to a "historical fact "

4) And I think even here your numbers are wrong anyway. That report actually spoke of "The team set up by the UN at the beginning of October 1992 to investigate the violation of human rights in the former Yugoslavia was eventually to inspect 715 prison camps; some were run by Bosnian Serbs (237), others by Croats (77) and Muslims (89), by Croats and Muslims together (4) and in other cases it was not even possible to establish clearly who was in charge (308)"

So out of the supposed 715 camps, the investigators - I use the word in it's widest definition here - were somehow unable to know who was in charge in almost half the camps ( 308 out of 715 )

You call that a "historical fact"?

And it's coming frone the UN?!?!?!? That most Dhimmified of Dhimmiest organisations ever ever founded. Ever.

And the funniest part is

exsgtbrown"the remainder of the camps were apparently closed before the investigators could locate them "

Did you write that with a straight face? Best one yet.

P.S. Next time a UN report attacks into Israel I'll expect you to be defending the findings. After all, it's a "historical fact"

Posted by: ewha1 at October 3, 2007 8:08 AM

It is very easy to see that's complete nonsense:

JNA (Yugoslav National Army) was 4th largest force in Europe, even with Serb soldiers only. If Serbs wanted to kill all Muslims, they didn't need any death camps nor long civil war which lasted for years - they could have it finished in two days. Would 4th European force need years of war and "death camps" to defeat unorganized villagers armed with hunting rifles? Ridiculous...

Even Muslim "president" Alija Izetbegovic was captured during the war and then released without a scratch. Serbs could level to the ground whole Yugoslavia in a week. But they didn't. Serbs just wanted to defend their own land and people. Before the war, Serbs owned in private property more than 70% of Bosnian territory (because they are mainly farmers) and by Dayton Agreement got 49%... That's called "justice" in Clintonian language.

Posted by: LazarOfSerbia at October 3, 2007 10:34 AM

Well said, LofS. 677 prison camps!?!?! Even the pro muslim Dutch report into Srebrenica pointed out that the prisoners could come and go as they pleased in many of the camps.

The lie gets repeated so often, in the end the shit sticks.

A disgrace.

Posted by: ewha1 at October 4, 2007 1:11 AM

To add a little more to LofS's comment that the VRS's battle was essentially defensive - i.e. defending their own people's land - I'll quote General Radinovic, the expert witness in the General Krle trial at the ICTY

http://www.un.org/icty/transe33/001204it.htm

( page 7820 )

Radinovic: "The doctrine for the use of the army of Republika Srpska was a defensive one, a doctrine of defence, and that is the essential point.
It was more defensive than any of the other two sides in the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina. It had an explicitly defensive character.

There is not a single example in the course of the entire war where the army of Republika Srpska made use of this manoeuvre of infiltration, that is to say, infiltrating its troops into the enemy rear.

Both armies of the other two belligerents used that particular manoeuvre. And in the case of Srebrenica as well, and the whole area of Central Podrinje, most of the Muslim activities were focussed in offensive infiltration by sabotage and diverging units, reconnaissance units and even entire brigades, into the rear of the army of Republika Srpska by which they expressed their offensive character, offensive nature.

The army of Republika Srpska did not do that and thereby remained wholly and purely defensive. Because the area which was used for combat activities was exclusively one's only ethnic area, that is to say, the part that the politics of Republika Srpska considered it to be its own ethnic territory.

The army of Republika Srpska reached that boundary and that is where it stopped. It stopped and took up a strategic defensive position, and it never thought of infiltrating forces across that line and thereby they demonstrate its offensiveness.

It remained firm at those positions, and the units of the army of Republika Srpska, in a cordon, in one line without any operative strategic depth, defended its own national territory."

For the years leading upto the illegal declaration of independence, the Bosnian Serbs had bent over backwards to appease the islamists. Time and time again, the Bosnian Serbs gave way on one political battleground after another. Even in battle, when they could've overrun the entire country in a matter of days, they just defended their own peoples' land. Nothing more, or less. So much for genocide.

Posted by: ewha1 at October 4, 2007 2:21 AM

I am very disappointed with exsgtbrown. Until now, he made an impression of someone informed. Worse, he lies here. You think you are the worst lier, exsgtbrown? Read "J'ACCUSE" by Professor Rajko Dolecek, 1999. Hundreds of liers listed, by name. Omarska??! Wasn't that Penny Marshall's infamous hoax?!

Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

Posted by: Enragedsince1999 at October 4, 2007 4:06 PM

Well said Enraged1999. First we have Jcom comparing the Serbs with Hitler - " They ( the Serbs )did exactly the same thing hitler did, and they know it" - and now we have exsgtbrown using a UN report -which even the Sarajevo islamist's numbers were completely at odds with - against the Serbs. Even then he had to double the already derisive figures such was his desire to paint the Islamists as victims.

Perhaps Jcom and exsgtbrown would be better off making those comments on an al-ikhwān website. Even there, though, I'm sure they'd baulk at some of the Serbophobic remarks made by the two posters. Too Dhimmified even for the MB it seems.

Strange days indeed.

Posted by: ewha1 at October 6, 2007 4:56 AM