That was easy question Robert:

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/alija.html

Quotes:

"There can be no peace or coexistence between the "Islamic faith" and non- Islamic societies and political institutions. ... Islam clearly excludes the right and possibility of activity of any strange ideology on its own turf."

"... the Islamic movement should and must start taking over the power as soon as it is morally and numerically strong enough to not only overthrow the existing non-Islamic, but also to build up a new Islamic authority. ..."

"FOR ALL MUSLIMS THERE IS BUT ONE SOLUTION: TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT, TO STRENGTHEN AND BROADEN IT, FROM DAY TO DAY, FROM YEAR TO YEAR, NO MATTER THE VICTIMS AND NO MATTER THE TIME"

Posted by: LazarOfSerbia at October 3, 2007 8:17 AM

"Interesting. How did they become radicalized, amid this vast majority of moderates? Does anyone know? Does anyone care? "

...is there a mosque in the area?......I know it is impolite to answer a question with a question....but one begets the other...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at October 3, 2007 8:22 AM

Isn't it ironic that the more religious, the followers of 'religion of peace' are, the more intolerant and violent they are. Isn't it, Dubya? Condi?

Posted by: Alert at October 3, 2007 8:26 AM

Asim C. - Chambers, Cooper, Collins?

Mehmed D. - Davis, Donohue, Donaldson?

Why is the AP concealing their last names? AP? Police?

Posted by: Pelayo at October 3, 2007 8:40 AM

The suspects' last names were not released in line with Austrian privacy laws.

Damn!

Posted by: Pelayo at October 3, 2007 8:42 AM

There must be a $10 word for the overwhelming urge to post a comment that results in a very foolish statement.

Pelayoism?

Posted by: Pelayo at October 3, 2007 8:50 AM

"trying to enter the embassy with a backpack containing grenades, plastic explosives and bits of metal".

Isn't it the AP that frequently displays pictures of Palestinian children wielding fully-geared-up AK47s and adds captions along the lines of "a Palestinian child waves a toy gun playfully"?

Maybe this is an oversight on that esteemed press agency's part and these were toy grenades and Plasticine; he was actually a door-to-door toy salesman who just happened to be a devout Muslim.

/sarc mode off.

Incidentally, Robert, you should never start a sentence with a numerical character. I suggest you change "2nd Misunderstander" to "Second Misunderstander" or you'll have smartarses like me posting stupid messages like this.

Posted by: A Nonny Nonny at October 3, 2007 9:22 AM

"Robert, you should never start a sentence with a numerical character. I suggest you change "2nd Misunderstander" to "Second Misunderstander"...
-- from a posting above

Or he could do it the way the legal experts do it:

Restatement 2nd of Torts
Restatement 2nd of Contracts

So, it would be Misunderstanders 2nd of Islam. Not quite the same, not quite the sober hint of Prosser or Corbin. But still.

Posted by: Hugh at October 3, 2007 11:12 AM

Guess what we call KBR (Kellog Brown & Root) in Afghanistan and Iraq? "Keeping Bosnians Rich" Lots of Bosnijaks work on our facilities in both countries, but it's o.k., they've been vetted and the U.S. Gov't doesn't believe in sudden jihad syndrome, so it's all good (sarcasm).
Makes me feel just peachy to know the mohammedians are all over our bases & at the very least have paced the facillities off for mortar attacks. Like the British in WW I we are lions lead by donkeys, donkeys more interested in keeping the contractors rich instead of smashing the islamonazis.

Posted by: Armalite at October 3, 2007 12:24 PM

I seem to remember when all the forces of the US government via the Department of Justice went after David Koresh and his followers and the result was basically wiping out this cult. hmmmm

Yeah, weren't they referred to as extremists, but they were only a "cult".

Posted by: HOV Dummy at October 3, 2007 12:34 PM

Don't forget had it been a Bible, they would have hammered home ad nauseum "the vast right wing conspiracy" BS at the behest of the MSMs puppetmasters...lol

Posted by: jcom972 at October 3, 2007 12:42 PM

I seem to remember when all the forces of the US government via the Department of Justice went after David Koresh and his followers and the result was basically wiping out this cult. hmmmm

Yeah, weren't they referred to as extremists, but they were only a "cult".

Posted by: HOV Dummy
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Compare the news coverage of Mushy vs. the Red Mosque with the coverage of Bill Clinton vs. David Koresh in Waco, TX, USA.

According to the MSM, Clinton could do no wrong. They claimed that a suicidal David Koresh set fire to his own compound.

The MSM seems to think that Mushy should step down over the Red Mosque incident. They will emphasize that there were women and children (held by their captors at gunpoint) and not mention the Islamists' arsenal of weapons. The MSM quickly forgot the vigilante tactics of the Red Mosque against Chinese, etc.
--
CT Yank

Posted by: CTYankee at October 3, 2007 1:08 PM

"Interesting. How did they become radicalized, amid this vast majority of moderates? Does anyone know? Does anyone care?"

Well.. Once upon a time, I served in SFOR in Bosnia. We saw a lot of mosques being rebuilt/built by guess who? Saudi Arabia! I'm pretty shure they were teaching a benign form of wahabbism to boot. We had several incidents of muslim folks shadowing our mounted patrols. First time I ever saw a woman in a burkha, NOT a hijab/niqab was in Bosnia. The "hag in a bag" was being lead by a very non-Slavic looking bearded individual. He looked "Asian" to me.

Posted by: Armalite at October 3, 2007 2:04 PM

"They will emphasize that there were women and children (held by their captors at gunpoint) "

....they fail to point out that these "captives" were firing weapons at the troops....several "captives" escaped and were involved in attacks on troops days later...

Islam is a farce....Ban Muslim Immigration.

Posted by: exsgtbrown at October 3, 2007 4:49 PM

From Armalite:"Guess what we call KBR (Kellog Brown & Root) in Afghanistan and Iraq? "Keeping Bosnians Rich""

HA!

And " We saw a lot of mosques being rebuilt/built by guess who? Saudi Arabia"

Yup. The Saudis were the big winners in Bosnia. Kosovo too. Very often the new mosques are built on the ashes of destroyed Orthodox churches.

Posted by: ewha1 at October 3, 2007 8:41 PM

Trifkovic does it again.

http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/?p=344#more-344

There must be about twenty five and a half paleocons in the entire US now.

Posted by: ewha1 at October 4, 2007 3:50 AM

ANOTHER BOSNIAN-Quelle Surprise! Not those SECULAR,DEMOCRATIC,PEACE LOVING BOSNIAKS who,according to drooling Western Media, hardly set foot in a Mosque,consumed pork and Plum Brandy...Like most Fairytales,reality is vastly different. As the West is discovering to its cost.
Remember seeing illustrations in 'Black Lamb,Grey
Falcon' which showed plenty of veiled ladies in what must have been 1930's in Bosnia,suspect there
always has been a hard core of Islamists there just like in SECULAR Turkey.

Posted by: Morgane at October 4, 2007 4:05 AM

There is an information in an Austrian online article:

DiePresse
[...] "Der 42-jährige Pensionist Asim C." [...]

which makes an excellent link to the article here
"Terrorism expert" says boredom, sense of insignificance lead to jihad"

The Austrian sentence reads: the 42 year old RETIRED Asim C. (my caps)

luckily, with all this free time, he was not able to get a bomb to explode.

Posted by: whiteelefant at October 4, 2007 5:59 AM

Criminal Clinton. Criminal Albight. Criminal Clark. Criminal Christopher Hill. We must put all those Gauleiters and Sturmbandfuehers on a Nuremberg trial.

Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

Posted by: Enragedsince1999 at October 4, 2007 3:38 PM

Criminal Clinton. Criminal Albright. Criminal Clark. Criminal Christopher Hill. We must put all those Gauleiters and Sturmbandfuehers on a Nuremberg trial.

Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

Posted by: Enragedsince1999 at October 4, 2007 3:40 PM

Criminal Clinton. Criminal Albright. Criminal Clark. Criminal Christopher Hill. We should put all those Gauleiters and Sturmbandfuehers on a Nuremberg trial.

Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

Posted by: Enragedsince1999 at October 4, 2007 3:41 PM

It seems one has been released. The officials declared there is no religious connection.

Beyond parody.

The location, Austria, is highly ironic, for it was the Bosnian embassy in Vienna that granted Bin Laden a Bosnian passport way back in 93 - according to the Dani newspaper in Sarajevo.

Definition of "Schmuck"

At that time Bin Laden was the West's favourite freedom fighter. The US worked very closely with Bin Laden and the Iranian VEVAK to keep the Mujahideen in Bosnia well supplied with arms, etc.

I remember, shortly after the war ended, and that awful Sunday political David Brinkley show commented about then President Clinton's admission that the US did in fact form an alliance with the Iranians and the Mujahideen.

All the panelists were thrilled that this had happened. William Kristol, George Will, Cokey ( sp ) Roberts all gave their thumbs up to this most moral of alliances - Cokie had one proviso, namely that the US really should have used Turkey and not Iran to arm the Mujahideen. Otherwise, she thought it wonderful that US taxpayers money had gone to people like Bin Laden so he could cut off Infidel's heads. And most of the US agreed too.

Less than a decade later, on 911 of course, and all those smug self satisfied smiles amongst the panelists and in the US turned to tears.

Many Americans cried "Why do they hate us?" and you know what, they do have a point. For the Mujahideen was essentially all washed up after the Afghan war ended. Bosnia gave them a new lease of life and without the US's help at getting them a foothold in Europe, the WTC outrage would never have had been possible.

Now that folks is the definition of a "schmuck"

And if you forget for a second, all the death and destruction on 911, and just focus on the incompetence which was of such a mind bogglingly high level, then it's also wonderfully funny too. Hilarious in fact.
ARF.

Posted by: ewha1 at October 6, 2007 5:34 AM