A posting from a year ago:

Excerpts below from an article in the Jerusalem Post on the numbing speech delivered by Condoleeza Rice, expressing the Administration's stout opposition to the Fast Jihad of Hamas, and stout support for the Slow Jihad of Fatah. Note the comparison, that comes so easily to Rice (and Bush) between what "Palestinians" or "Iraqis" do in their Democracy-Is-On-the-March behavior and the Founders of the American Republic.

Now ask yourself what you think Condoleeza Rice and George Bush know or understand about the early history of the United States, about Franklin, Washinigton, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, George Mason, and all the others, and how they see such PLO leaders as Mahmoud Abbas as similar figures, and the "Palestinian" people (a political fiction deliberately created to disguise, and thereby promote, the Jihad against Israel) as similar, in any conceivable way, to the inhabitants of the colonies that became the thirteen original states under the Articles of Confederation, and then, linked in a different way, becoming one nation defined and organized by its incomparable Constitution, and the far-sighted group of statesmen who wrote it and then urged its acceptance. Rice has managed to offend every decency, managed to misconstrue entirely the nature of Jihad as defined and prompted by the canonicaltexts of Islam. But not only that. She has shown an ignorance of the most important period of American history, and of the men who were responsible.

In a single speech she managed to do all that. One of the most absurd, and intolerable, speeches by a figure at the cabinet level in American history.

Here is that Jerusalem Post article with several of the most egregious passages:

"Rice: Palestinian struggle echoes battle for US independence

By NATHAN GUTTMAN

Talkbacks for this article: 185

WASHINGTON - In her first-ever appearance before an American-Palestinian crowd, US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice reiterated her personal commitment and that of the US administration to the creation of an independent Palestinian state as part of a two-state solution.

"I believe that there could be no greater legacy for America than to help to bring into being a Palestinian state for a people who have suffered too long, who have been humiliated too long, who have not reached their potential for too long, and who have so much to give to the international community and to all of us," Rice told an audience of several hundred guests at a gala event of the American Task Force on Palestine (ATFP), a US group working to promote the idea of an independent Palestinian state.

"I promise you my personal commitment to that goal," Rice concluded.

Rice compared the vision of Palestinian statehood to that of American independence and the civil rights battles in one of the strongest endorsements from the Bush administration to the idea of an independent Palestinian state.

"I should never have grown up in segregated Birmingham, Alabama to become the secretary of state of the United States of America," Rice said, adding that eventually, once these visions do come true, "we wonder why did anyone ever doubt that it was possible."

Rice emphasized US support to the Palestinian people, by increasing the American foreign aid to the Palestinians to $468 million, and by putting in place an international mechanism which will allow transfer of financial assistance to the Palestinians without going through the Hamas government.

She said that now, after several months of having Hamas in power, the Palestinian people are holding Hamas accountable for the situation in the territories.

"Hamas now faces a hard choice that it has always sought to avoid: Either you are a peaceful political party, or a violent terrorist group - but you cannot be both," Rice said.

The secretary of state also stressed the importance of backing moderate leaders in the Arab world, such as Mahmoud Abbas in Palestine, Fuad Siniora in Lebanon and Nouri al-Maliki in Iraq. She said that one of the goals of her recent trip to the region, her sixth trip since becoming secretary of state, was to "build a support for those people who are trying and who need our help more than ever now."

Ziad Asali, president of the American Task Force on Palestine, said Wednesday that the fact that Rice came to speak at the American-Palestinian event has great importance. At the same time, Asali stressed that it does not reflect a change in policy toward the region, though "sometimes symbolism is more important than substance."

Do not forget this speech. Not a word of it.

[Posted by: Hugh at October 14, 2006 11:37 AM]

Posted by: Hugh at October 4, 2007 12:16 PM

A previous posting on the Slow Jihad of Fatah and the Fast Jihad of Hamas:

"The farce of supporting the Slow Jihadists of Fatah, consisting of suitably be-suited grey-faced men, with emphasis on the plausible technocratic facade presented by Fayyad, whom a Muslim or Muslim-apologist poster above makes somuch of, in order to "reward" it for something -- infuriates. For what are we rewarding Fatah? For its leaders, from Arafat on down, being corrupt and building villas, and parcelling out all that Western Jizyah-aid to themselves and keeping it away from those in Hamas? For having been so easily defeated, and so publicly humiliated, by the far smaller forces of Hamas, while Fatah had three or four times as many men under arms in Gaza, and had been receiving all kinds of weaponry, and training (see General Dayton's "mission") from the Americans, but ran away anyway -- ran away, because Hamas consists of True Believers, and Fatah of men on the make, men who are happy to work for Israel's destruction, but have for now chosen to differ with Hamas on timing and tactics, in order to ensure that they keep receiving that Jizyah.

It is a terrible thing, in the ongoing war, to continue to pay, to resume payment, to any Muslims, by any Infidels, of what is essentially a Jizyah -- that is, a payment which the Muslim recipients believe is their due, and for which they show no gratitude, for as it is their due, to stop it is to behave against the will of Allah, for Infidels should be paying these sums, and when they stop, the stoppage of the transfer of billions of dollars from Infidel taxpayers to Muslim recipients who have long been used to being on sort of dole or another, whether it be the Jizyah from Christians and Jews extracted, once their lands were conquered, over the last 1350 years, or the vast wealth taken from the enslaved (or murdered by the tens of millions) Hindus in India, or the vast wealth received from Hindus and Buddhists elsewhere, in Central Asia, in the East Indies, everywhere that Islam managed to dominate and Muslims to rule. There is even the disguised Jizyah of the "bumiputra" system in Malaysia. And in Indonesia, the Muslim-dominatd governments have over the past few decades, since the days of the Dutch, and of Sukarno (far more tolerant than Suharto and those following) passed many laws that discriminated against, or even prevented, the rebuilding of churches and temples by those defined as insufficiently "Indonesian" --that is, by the ethnic Chinese (both those born in China and those who have lived in Indonesia for generations) and placed many other constraints on the linguistic, cultural, and religious practices and freedoms of the ethnic, i.e., non-Muslim, Chinese,that systematic legal discrimination being finally removed only in 2000 by the humorful Abdurrahman Wahid, when he was briefly in power, the same Wahid who, as his visit to Israel suggested, is an unusual Believer, if a Believer at all).

The war of self-defense against the Jihad, that is the war that must be fought, by all Infidels, to withstand the state of permanent war that Islam mandates, for all Muslims, against all Infidels -- a state of war if not always open warfare -- should not be called a "war that will take generations" or even "a long war" for both such descriptions miss the point. It is a war without end, but a war that can be made manageable, endurable, if the Infidels, or enough of them, recognize the nature of that war, the promptings of that war, the instruments of that war, and the weaknesses as well as the strengths, within the Camp of Islam, and the way to diminish those strengths (chiefly by diminishing the use of oil and therefore diminishing oil revenues on which Arabs and Muslims are so dependent for their Money Weapon) and to exploit those weaknesses. Chiefly to be recognizaed and exploited are the potential divisions and demoralization of the Camp of Islam arising form the sectarian divide, or Sunni-Shi'a, split, the ethnic divide, or Arab-non-Arab split, and the financial divide, or oil-rich/oil-poor Muslim split.

This is an entirely manageable situtaiton, if the money weapon is diminished and if the rich Arabs are made responsible for sharing their wealth with the poor Arabs (while the Infidels lay down forever, and do not pick up again, not even for a minute, the Infidel Man's Burden), if campaigns of Da'wa are carefully monitored, carefully circumscribed, and countered by anti-Da'wa campaigns that will convey certain disturbing truths about Islam. These truths include the undeniable fact of Islam's about the inculcated hatreds, the view of the world as being permanently divided between Believer and Infidel, with the latter having eventually to submit, as by right, to the former, as well as the habit of mental submission (which explains the absence of scientific investigation, as well as free and skeptical inquiry), and the severe limits placed on both artistic expression and human autonomy, including freedom of conscience, by the collectivist mind-forged-manacled, retrograde, doubly-totalitarian -- in G. H. Bousquet's phrase -- Total System of Islam.

Such a "war" of self-defense can be won, in a sense, by keeping Islam from spreading, by keeping every potential division within the Camp of Islam simmering. The environmental crisis insures that billiions of Westerners who might, for other reasons, be inattentive or indifferent to the menace of Islam, will nonetheless be working, for other reasons, toward a goal of reducing reliance on fossil fuels -- that is, will be working toward a goal which, if achieved, can only weaken the Camp of Islam. That is a good thing. Fewer boots on the damn ground, more lightening raids, when called for, to damage or destroy major weaponry possessed by Muslim states or groups, and end to policies held in thrall to the desire not to offend but rather to placate Muslims, is all to the good.,

The rewarding of Fatah by the Bush Administration, the unseemly haste with which it has done so, disturbs and disgusts. Fatah is no better today than it was yesterday. Its ultimate goal remains the same. The fact that members of Hamas attacked Fatah positions and overran them does not imply any turn toward genuine and permanent acceptance of an Infidel state by Fatah, or for that matter by Muslim Arabs. No such acceptance is possible, and it is silly to work for it. On the other hand, had the government taken advantage of the new situation to declare the "two-state solution" now unworkable, and hinted that "other things would have to be undertaken" and then worked, as it should be working, to make sure that the Infidels around the world understand that the war on Israel is a Lesser Jihad, that any "peace" treaty that Muslims make with Infidel states is a treaty that they believe they not only may but are required to break whenever they, the Muslims, become strong enough (on the model of the Treaty of Al Hudaibiyya, which is the basis of Muslim treaty-making with non-Muslims), if this is understood, so that the continued pressure on Israel to willingly give up more land, and control of the aquifers and the invasion routes, so that Israel, already the state whose people are most imperiled in the world today, lives permanently on the edge of a volcano, is both cruel and stupid. We need Israel, we need Israel for geopolitical reasons (if the Israelis are not pushed back further, they can continue to be a strong ally, militarily, to Infidels, and by example, can continue to be a civilizing example to the Muslim locals), for civilizational reasons (Christians and those who are part of Western civilization that is so connected to Christianity can only be guaranteed access to the Holy Land if Israel retains control, and if the Muslims should ever triumphantly seize it, that would be the end of such access, save on the same terms of abasement that were once in place), for moral reasons (after all that has happened to the most persecuted tribe in human history, the Jews, the damage to Western morality, and morale, if Israel were to be thrown to the Islamic wolves only because Western leaders were at a loss as to know how to handle Islam, and thought that appeasement, paid in the coin of Israeli lives and Israel's existence, was the way to go, those still capable of thought would find all thought intolerable).

Fatah is not "better" than Hamas. Fatah is run by men whose shared goal is not to build a "Palestinian" state so much as it is to build a "state" that will be a way-station on the necessary, inevitable destruction of another state, the intolerable, because Infidel, state of Israel. Fatah differs from Hamas only in two things. First, its leaders are more realistic, in its choice of tactics and its timing. Second, its leaders are eager to turn on the Jizyah tap, because they have lived all their lives not on the fruits of any hard work or entrepreneurial flair or anything like that, either on their own part or that of the so-called "Palestinian" people, but rather on the amounts that long ago Arafat and the PLO, found it could squeeze first, from other Arabs (such as the Saudis), and then, in the early 1990s, found it could extract much more easily, in much larger amounts, from Infidel governments so wiling to believe, just because it was absurd, in the goodness of Arafat and the benign intentions of the peace-processing PLO.

Now would be the perfect time, after that revealing display of the contempt felt for Fatah's corruption, after the trashing even of "beloved" Chairman Arafat's villa (one of so many he possessed, just like all those bank accounts, with those Infidel billions for "Palestinian" aid squirreled away, and now apparently not to be found, for only a few, such as Mahmoud Abbas, know where the money really went), is to do nothing. Do nothing to help out Fatah, and certainly not to turn on the aid tap which means turning on the renewed possiblities for corruption, and for Hamas to point to that corruption as justifying its approach. Do nothing, and let the "Palestinian" cause in all its hideousness and obvious disarray be put on display, for Infidels, even those of the BBC and The Guardian and Le Monde, to begin to realize that the war on Israel is not a "nationalist" struggle as it has been carefully presented, ever since the 1967 defeat brought home to the Muslim Arabs the need to re-package the Lesser Jihad against Israel, and to use against it the refusal of the Arabs to make a real peace, and therefore to use the renamed local Arabs, and those in other countries, as "Palestinians" rather than as "Arabs" or "Arab refugees" -- which is what they had always been called, not least by Arab diplomats and leaders, since 1948.

Part of the waking-up to their own dismal reality and the menace of Islam requires that those in Western Europe realize that the war against Israel is based on Islam, the tenets of Islam, the attitudes and atmospherics of those raised up in societies suffused with Islam. Those attitudes have been adopted as well, even long internalized as part of the coping strategy of menaced dhimmis, by such "Palestinian" islamochristians as Hanan Ashrawi. At this point, despite the clear attacks on Christians in both Gaza and in the "West Bank" in such places as Bethlehem, its Christian population dimidiated in the little-more-than-a-decade of rule under the "Palestinian Authority." See what foreign clergymen have reported about Bethlehem, see what the bravest Arab Christians have dared to testify to about their treatment at the hands of "fellow" but Muslim "Palestinians."

If the war against Israel is seen, properly, as a Lesser Jihad, then all those wasted efforts at shuttle diplomacy, and negotiations, and peace-processing, and final photo ops in the Rose Garden while the photographers swarm, and the phony handshakes and phony smiles are exchanged, will come to an end, and the true peacekeeper in the Middle East -- that is the IDF, and its ability to prevent, or respond to, or punish, military aggression -- will be recognized, and the principle not of treaties (for there is no "pacta sunt servanda" in the Muslim world - treaties are not to be obeyed, but to be disobeyed, to be breached, by the Muslim side, whenever that becomes possible), but of Darura.

This understanding of the war against Israel as a Lesser Jihad, prompted by the immutable texts and tenets of Islam, not only has the virtue of being true, but also will help others, especially in Western Europe, become more aware of the threat that Islam, through demographic conquest and Da'wa, poses to their own countries: the fate of Israel and the fate of many countries in Western Europe is one, even if many in those countries, and certainly their ruling elites, do not wish to recognize that, for it makes for all kinds of unpleasantness and responsibilities and duties one would rather avoid. But such a recognition is a necessary prelude or accompaniment to girding various national loins in preparation for a large-scale effort to halt and reverse the Muslim advance, through demographic conquest in the lands of Western Europe, ) its leaders more corrupt. That's it. Its hideous goals remain the same.

The black-balaclav'ed Kalashnikov-clutching bezonians goosestepping in Ramallah, and called "Islamic Jihad" or "Al-Aksa Martyr's Brigade" -- two groups that will benefit, being tied to Fatah, by the turning on of the tap of European and American Jizyah -- are little different, are in fact no different, from the black-balaclav'ed Kalashnikov-clutching bezonians goosestepping triumphantly in Gaza City.

They are peas in the same damn pod. They are like the Bloods and the Crips. If the Bloods were to promise to be just a little bit less gruesome in their behavior than the Crips, or perhaps agree to give up dealing in one particular drug, would that mean we should fall all over them, let incarcerated leaders of the Bloods out of jail (as one Israeli idiotically suggests should be done for Mahmoud Barghouti,currently serving time for five murders of Israeli civlians, in order to "strengthen Fatah"), and pile on the money, from everywhere, just to show how fond we are of this group of b-b K-c b's as they goosestep about?"

No. For god's sake, no.

[Posted by: Hugh at June 19, 2007 12:42 PM]

Posted by: Hugh at October 4, 2007 12:28 PM

Ronald Reagan would, from time to time, remind the State Dept. that HE was President and to do what he was telling them to do.

Im not sure this current President has gotten the "revelation" on that fact. He is not an idiot or dumb but seems to be hobbled by States dictates on foreign policy, being the "experts", dont you know. People who have been in meetings where Pres. Bush was present come out amazed at his clarity, knowledge and focus. I guess they believed the reports of his retardation from the MSM.

The problem in my view relates to his (in my opinion) somewhat flawed world view regarding this Oslo road map, (the road to nowhere) that says Israel must give up most of its land, almost guaranteing its destruction. His stated church denominations world view policy is the same. They call for all corporations to divest from Israel.

Posted by: guide inside at October 4, 2007 12:32 PM

Hitting the nail on the head:

"It is a war without end, but a war that can be made manageable, endurable, if the Infidels, or enough of them, recognize the nature of that war..."
--posted by Hugh

It's the "without end" part of this struggle that people cannot accept. Everything has to have a solution. The Muhammadans believe that the cult of muhammad is the answer; the infidels believe in the superiority of their cultures.

But the idea that Islam will always cast a malevolent shadow on planet earth, forever and ever and ever, that cannot be digested. That the war will never be decisively settled--that cannot be comprehended and accepted.
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Let me help readers assimilate the permanence of the Islamic threat with two questions worth pondering:

Will Satan ever go away?
What role does Satan play in the universe?

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at October 4, 2007 1:10 PM

The USA has its tits in a ringer in Iraq and Afghanistan. Both "democracy projects" are kaput and Israelis know and understand this. Also, I've never met an Israeli (and I know many) who believes that the Palestinians want peace. Never. Not a one.

I must conclude that this is a charade the Israelis are going along with knowing that they must because calling a spade a spade is not in King George Ibn Bush al-Saud's self-interest at this particular point in time.

It's a fool's errand. The dutiful Israelis knowing who signs the checks are playing along.

It's a no-brainer. Nothing will ever come from any of this. Nothing. Nada. Zero. Zip.

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at October 4, 2007 1:17 PM

I did read somewhere that Rice thinks that Abbas is ineffective and that she felt she was wasting her time trying to forge a Fatah-based agreement. Anyone else see that?
Meanwhile, whatever the reason, having a summit now seems stupid, what with all of the loose ends out there. Does anyone really believe the one about the "Palestinian" problem being the "root cause" of anything? As though that tackling that propaganda-induced delusion is going to cure Iraq or stop Iran or Syria.
PA spokeswoman Condi Rice, what are you smoking?

Posted by: jewdog at October 4, 2007 1:41 PM

Think how quick we could end this war if we were to convert our jizyah into weapons?

Let the Arabs use thier massive petrodollars to feed the poor paleostinians.

Then we could give them a choice of two states. . .live in a state of peace or a state of war like WWII. Not this PC warfare we've been using since the U.N. came into existance, but fighting to remove the enemie's will to fight (like we did in Germany and Japan).

Posted by: walterc at October 4, 2007 1:54 PM

From Condi Rice:

"I believe that there could be no greater legacy for America…"

Condi? What "legacy"? That wording gives me the uneasy feeling that Condi is planning for the end of America.

"Rice compared the vision of Palestinian statehood to that of American independence and the civil rights battles in one of the strongest endorsements from the Bush administration to the idea of an independent Palestinian state."

What a display of moral equivalence… I would have expected much more.

How fast are Martin Luther King and Thomas Jefferson spinning in their graves?

Posted by: RalphInfidel at October 4, 2007 4:06 PM

It strikes me from the description of the war "without end" (above) that Islamic war is comparable to the chronic inflammatory conditions being rediscovered these days - arthritis, diabetes, asthma etc etc.

All of these are chronic degenerative inflammatory conditions that can be managed and alleviated by constant attention to diet, exercise and stress management.

Islam, too is an inflammatory condition that can be and may be managed but only by particular attention to the damage it does - management, rather than eradication.

Posted by: carpediadem at October 5, 2007 4:59 AM

Are we certain it's merely myth of "moderation"?
http://www.davidstuff.com/historical/mecca.htm

Posted by: jcom972 at October 9, 2007 12:37 AM