Wait. There's a bar shaped like a space rock? Or a black box? And will this new ruling apply to all rectangular box-shaped buildings?

Posted by: Beagle at October 6, 2007 11:32 AM

Yeah, I've seen at least one photo of this bar. It's a cube, for goodness sake! Does Islam hold the copyright to other geometric shapes, too?

Anyway, here's a link:

http://www.applegazette.com/mac/muslim-community-responds-we-love-the-apple-nyc-cube/

Posted by: SlartyBartfast at October 6, 2007 11:33 AM

Tear it down? Yeah, right! Ha, ha, ha, ...

Posted by: Havoc at October 6, 2007 11:34 AM

I thought the bar was in Berlin in the 20's -- the one they made a movie about, with Lisa Minelli singing "Come to the Kaabaret".

Posted by: ebonystone at October 6, 2007 11:47 AM

All the street intersections in the Muslim world offend the cross. You need to get ride of them or we will Crusade on you!

Posted by: Ruebacca at October 6, 2007 11:48 AM

What an innovative idea!!! I wonder what they'll call the drinks? "72 desperate virgins" might be one idea. "terrified little Aisha" might be another. And still another might be "suicide bomber"

Any others?

Posted by: rational at October 6, 2007 11:55 AM

Do islamic children play with blocks? Do islamic men gamble with dice? Do moslems try to solve Rubik's cube? Seems to me they should all be forbidden.

Posted by: ebonystone at October 6, 2007 11:56 AM

The Kaaba is a large masonry structure roughly the shape of a cube. (The name Kaaba comes from the Arabic word "muka'ab" meaning "cube".)
from Wikipedia

Somebody tell the casinos they are insulting Islam every time someone throws the dice. (Then again, I like the idea of throwing the kaaba across the table! Let's call them kaaba cubes.)

Every big box department store is in the shape of the kaaba.

Rubik's cube will be a thing of the past under Islam.

Does the pentagon insult Islam? Is that why they tried to knock down the Defense Department headquarters - not because of what it contained, but because of the shape of the building?

How about the obelisk?

Posted by: PMK at October 6, 2007 11:56 AM

Does anyone know whether this bar even really exists?

Posted by: sceptico at October 6, 2007 12:02 PM

The problem is that the internet provides a very fast way for information to be sent around the globe, but that doesn't mean that the information that is sent is correct. Most people, even in the US, let alone dealing with a country with a low literacy rate, don't know or don't take the time to verify information.

Hence you have an Islamic cleric railing against a cartoon that he never saw or a bunch of Muslims half way across the globe complaining about a company sculpture that has NOTHING to do with Islam, them, or anything else.

The biggest problem I have with the Middle East is their refusal to actually allow freedom of speech and encourage education. Instead of striving to actually make themselves a contributing member of the global community, they focus all of their time and money on training their children to hate and to kill.

Posted by: Monkeywho at October 6, 2007 12:03 PM

SlartyBartfast has the link above.

OK, now I remember. LGF had this. It's merely a glass cube, and it's not a bar. It's Apple Computers.

Posted by: Beagle at October 6, 2007 12:08 PM

Meanwhile, in Nigeria,

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58015

10 Christians slaughtered over alleged Muhammad cartoon

Love islam. Or else.

Posted by: Minority of One at October 6, 2007 12:13 PM

To the Poor little muslims: Offended by the bar? Tough crap. If you don't like it, move. Get your skinny, worthless muslim butts out of this country and over to the real stone. Cause you know what? We don't stinking care about what offends your brian-washed, angry little minds. We all know that there's no reasoning with you because you all you want is power; you don't want to reason.

Well, we got you power right here. And if you can't handle it and gotta whine....get back over to the middle east where your insanity is welcome. Because we aren't intimidated by your savage little games and can't wait until you push us over the edge. Because you think we are weak, but what you are seeing is patience; and you have no concept of our wrath (though your dead alQ fighters each got a sniff.) But it's coming....so go ahead and keep pushing, because the house is gonna come down on TOP of your whining butts.

Posted by: angryeagle at October 6, 2007 12:16 PM

As I suspected, it is Apple Cube in NYC. During construction it was covered by black sheets.

XXI Century: a incoming Dark Ages of predjuce based on random bits of eletronic information.

Posted by: DoktorNo at October 6, 2007 12:17 PM

Now I wouldn’t be one to pass judgement quickly, but given these irregularities, I would tend to think that this is plain propaganda aimed at discrediting the Muslim community.
from the link

Once again, it's the rest of the world trying to discredit Islam. The Muslim community in the US doesn't have a clue what is taught in the rest of the world. Instead they try to discredit MEMRI, a site that translates what comes out of the Arab press.

Posted by: PMK at October 6, 2007 12:21 PM

The religion of peace is at it again 10 Christians murdered churches burned down by rampaging muslims, another cartoon incident, in Nigeria. When do muslims apologize to the rest of the world for murdering people over cartoons and cubes?
Easy answer, they never apologize, and few of them are even arrested. They are always justified in their violence, always. I wonder where they get these ideas?

Posted by: duh_swami at October 6, 2007 12:24 PM

"Muslims all over the world should protest at this"....from headline.

Muslims all over the world should be protesting against militant Islam -- not nonsense like this.

Posted by: champ at October 6, 2007 12:25 PM

Here, fixed it:

The Worlds 5 Gazillion Muslims Are Enraged Over Kaaba-shaped bar in New York

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/10/06/the-worlds-5-gazillion-muslims-are-enraged-over-kaaba-shaped-bar-in-new-york/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at October 6, 2007 12:32 PM

Oh, for Pete's sake!

Do Mohammedans own the cube, the color black, the custom of draping (something new until time to reveal it to the public)?

God forbid it is ever discovered that there is a building (say a couple of first grade classes in a school) that just happens to have 72 little 6 year-old virgin girls in it!

And, no more domes on buildings--all of those state capitol buildings are going to have to go to a flat-roof plan. (And someone needs to notify St. Peter's basillica, NOW!)

"Moorish" arches? away with them, and death to anyone (kaffir) who attempts to constuct another arch! (Someone get Mickey D's on the phone, immediately!)

Of course, we've already been given a "lesson" about towers. No tall towers allowed, except in Dubai.

Mohammedan stupidity is maddening!

Posted by: Abscedere at October 6, 2007 12:35 PM

OT, but about demos.

I was at the SIOE site on the post about the London Demo and someone posted an anti
Catholic comment ranting about not allowing "papists" to get involved in the fight against Islam.

I took umbrage and called him a bigot and took the siteowners to task for permitting his comment without any remonstrance.

I was then accused of being a Muslim practicing taqqiya. When I wrote back in defense of myself and to deny that I'm a Muslim the siteowners deleted my comments in what appears to be an attempt to maintain the illusion that I AM indeed a Muslim practicing taqqiya.

If this is what SIOE is about then screw them. I don't think Catholics should participate in the demo since they allow and promote this kind of bigotry.

Posted by: atheling at October 6, 2007 12:42 PM

Like your website, sheik yer'mami! Good stuff. You even have Rage Boy featured on there. He's practically a household name.

Muslims major on the minors. All this ballyhoo over things of no consequence, when they should be getting outraged over the violence in Islam. Oh yeah, I almost forgot, violence and Islam go hand in hand; so of course they have to direct attention AWAY from the obvious crimes and onto less important things like this BS.

Posted by: champ at October 6, 2007 12:43 PM

"Kashmir: Muslim students demonstrate against Kaaba-shaped bar in New York"--Headline

Update:
Kashmir: Mohammedan students demonstrate against non-existent Kaaba-shaped bar in New York

Posted by: Abscedere at October 6, 2007 12:43 PM

I can't help bringing up an old Peter Paul ad jingle:

Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't.................

Or how about Reeses:

You got your Kaaba in my peanut butter!

You got your peanut butter in my Kaaba!

Or is this simply a case of Turkish Taffee?

Posted by: Shy Guy at October 6, 2007 12:45 PM

Atheling, screw them and go anyway, it is highly likely that it was a Muslim who posted that anti papal comment, they do this sort of thing all the time, I don't care what you are, but as long as you believe in freedom of expression and democracy and the total divorce of state from religion then your one of us.

Keep up the fight, I may be a secularist, but I respect Christianity and I understand that it is a force for good. SIOE is important for the fight against Islam, if we start to fight among ourselves the Islamics win, they love causing us to fight among ourselves.

Posted by: Daffersd at October 6, 2007 1:02 PM

"Muslims all over the world should protest at this," they said.

Actually, I've got another suggestion of what Muslims all over the world should do and it doesn't involve protesting.

Posted by: venividivici at October 6, 2007 1:05 PM

We can safely say this is no Rubik's Cube.

Posted by: 2and2is5 at October 6, 2007 1:14 PM

OK, now I remember. LGF had this. It's merely a glass cube, and it's not a bar. It's Apple Computers.

Posted by: Beagle

It's a **GENIUS** bar. Something that moslems know very little about.

Posted by: 2and2is5 at October 6, 2007 1:18 PM

Being offended serves the spread of Islam since they can claim the high ground while still being imperialist. If they can not find something offensive they will either create something or provoke it.

We might as well offend Muslims with the truth, since they will make up an offense anyway in order to enslave the free people of the world.

Posted by: James Martel at October 6, 2007 1:27 PM

Praising Gandhi earns Kashmir CM a fatwa

http://ia.rediff.com/news/2007/oct/06kash.htm

Praising Gandhi earns Kashmir CM a fatwa

Posted by: Desi at October 6, 2007 1:29 PM

daffersd:

I'm sorry but I disagree. I wouldn't march with people who slander my faith, and this particular person is not Muslim; he's "Christian", as he put it. He's just a member one of those Protestant sects who thrive on anti Catholic hatred.

SIOE's silence on this, as well as their censoring my comments and not his reflects their complicity with his stance.

Silence is construed by consent. That is a point of law.

The fact that this person's comments was also applauded by other commenters tells me that Catholics are not welcome at the demonstration. SIOE has proven to be no friend of Catholics, and their official endorsement of the Belgian police's brutality indicates that they are seriously screwed up.

Posted by: atheling at October 6, 2007 1:31 PM

Lunatics, all of them. Mad as fruitbats.

Their behaviour begs the question: who told them about this bar? Whoever incited these nutters should be certified before he does something really silly.

Was it the same bloke who claimed that Burger King had deliberately insulted Islam and him by pouring a milkshake with an image of Mohammad etched into the creamy bit at the top?

Posted by: A Nonny Nonny at October 6, 2007 1:39 PM

Muslims, you insult my country.

Posted by: Foehammer at October 6, 2007 1:43 PM

Saudi Arabia: Ex-Gitmo Jihad Freaks Get Paid Holidays

Our friends the Sowdi’s: Rewarding terrorism

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/10/06/saudi-arabia-ex-gitmo-jihad-freaks-get-paid-holidays/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at October 6, 2007 1:52 PM

I'll drink to that! (and I dont even drink).

What nutters indeed.

Posted by: guide inside at October 6, 2007 1:54 PM

It's your website and I have no problems with that edit you made to my post, especially since it was the first post of the thread.

But you have to admit...

Posted by: Beagle at October 6, 2007 1:56 PM

OT

Atheling, would you march with me, even though I am not Catholic, but respect your faith as a force for good? I just read your comments, they are still there, also I think that this Steiner is an extreme left wing idiot who sees nothing good in religion. I was baptised as a Protestant, but married in a Catholic church.

As for the SIOE stance on VB, I understand where they came from, but disagreed with SIOE on this, they then posted later to clarify their position.

Anyone fighting for freedom of expression and real democracy has to stop this movement from being pigeon holed by the Fascist Left.

I for one would be proud to march with you against Islam do not lose sight of that, please.

Posted by: Daffersd at October 6, 2007 2:02 PM

Oh, God, here we go again. Michelle Malkin is right when she describes Islam as the religion of perpetual outrage. I suppose the good news here is that Muslims makes asses out of themselves for yet another time. This is having the cumulative effect, I believe, of insuring that Islam will eventually become the laughing-stock of the world. Hey, perhaps we shoudn't discount the importance of humor in defeating Mo's creed. The first thing one must do with evil is crush it. The second thing is to mock it. Mock away.

Posted by: Wellington at October 6, 2007 2:03 PM

A black box insulting to islam? No, that's not insulting. This is insulting: muslims, your "prophet," mohammed, was a lying, deceived poor excuse for a human being. He was and is a false prophet inspired by your god, satan. He also was a perveret. He was a child-molester. He was a lunatic. He also was a murderer. He was vile. He was filth. And anyone who believes his lies is exactly like him. In this country, we hate islam. We know that it is a lie and its followers are hateful, insecure, petty little pukes. Your pogram of the Jews, God's chosen people (the God Who parted the Red Sea, not the god who commands you to behead Christians and Jews) is a pathetic demonstration of your futile understanding of the world. You don't have opportunities because your false religion does not allow freedom. It is slavery. It is oppression. And your own hate testifies to how dark of an existence you live in in your 'glorious' faith. It is evil and the west sees it as that (except for the blind, relativist liberal, whom you would mow through in a heartbeat if the conservatives did not protect them.)

We hope you find reason and faith for there is no life in islam; only death. We know it as the worthless pack of lies that it is.

Posted by: angryeagle at October 6, 2007 2:05 PM

If public health concerns can be a basis for shutting something down, what's more in need of closing? A bar shaped like the Kaaba? Or the Kaaba itself?

I wonder if Muslims in Muslim-majority countries try to make it illegal for Christians to sip wine during communion. Bet on it.

Posted by: traeh at October 6, 2007 2:06 PM

I'll answer my own question: the Kaaba is a public health menace: it makes large numbers of people homicidal, totalitarian maniacs.

Posted by: traeh at October 6, 2007 2:09 PM

atheling: I've read your posts above and wanted to respond. You know by now I am not a religious man but I have no time for people who make a religion out of not having a religion or who wish to cast viscious aspersions against a mainstream faith like Roman Catholicism. I would ask anyone who is not a Catholic the following: If everyone in the world lived their life the way the Pope would want them to, would this be a better world or a worse world? The answer should be obvious to anyone who has even half a brain. Hope you're well, atheling.

Posted by: Wellington at October 6, 2007 2:12 PM

We are essentially dealing with a bunch of muslim morons.

We need to somehow multiply our force of thought. This makes it more efficient to use.

If we can show that the muslim-islam-morons are a deep threat to the left thinking population, we will have done a great deed. At that point I truly believe winning that battle will turn this war around. If we can do it with PC. So much the better.

Posted by: credit man at October 6, 2007 2:13 PM

Daffersd said

"Atheling, would you march with me, even though I am not Catholic, but respect your faith as a force for good?"

I am not a Catholic either but would be more than happy to march with either of you.

Islam sees itself as superior to everything else, everybody else is at threat from it.

I'm going to be at the march, hope you both (and plenty of others) will be there too.

Posted by: g hadi hater at October 6, 2007 2:15 PM

Daffersd said

"Atheling, would you march with me, even though I am not Catholic, but respect your faith as a force for good?"

I am not a Catholic either but would be more than happy to march with either of you.

Islam sees itself as superior to everything else, everybody else is at threat from it.

I'm going to be at the march, hope you both (and plenty of others) will be there too.

Posted by: g hadi hater at October 6, 2007 2:16 PM

Belly up Boys and Girls. Pour em Tall and Frothy.

A Toast to Freedom of Expression.

Posted by: flowerknife_us at October 6, 2007 2:19 PM

HAVE NO FEAR, RAGEBOY IS HERE!

The call went out and he answered. They built a bar in New York City and painted it Satanic Black; it must be an insult to Islam. He knew then what had to be done.

Across the Atlantic ocean he flew; luckily none of his Muslim brethren were on board to blow the plane out of the sky, and he made it safely to the shores of America. No bomb was strapped to his chest, no gun to his ankle; for his bomb is his tongue and his gun is the fervor of his devotion to Allah the moon god.

Somehow, it must have been divine guidance, he finds his way to the infernal abomination. People were all laughing and socializing, and the women--you could see their pretty faces and their innocent smiles! This could not be! And the bar in which they gathered was rectangular in shape and painted Satanic black...just like the Kaaba!

He wastes no time. Hurriedly he scrawls a slogan on a large white posterboard: "Death to Israel!" He begins to loudly hurl angry condemnations at the pedestrians while foaming at the mouth and shaking his fist.

He is a master at raging. Nobody comes close evoking the fury and zeal and indignation of his raging. In the morning he rages. Before all the other ragers have arrived, he is there raging. In the evening he rages, even after all the parters have gone home to bed.

He knows that if he just keeps raging and protesting and shouting someday he will have the kaaba party house closed down. And so he rages, night and day, in honor of his moon god...

Posted by: Tookson at October 6, 2007 2:55 PM

Many have noted that the Kashmiri students may be upset about what is not a bar at all, but which was reported as being one when we posted pictures and a story almost a year ago.
........

The only problem is that the project is finished, and the actual building doesn't look like the Ka'ba at all, unless all cube-shaped structures are forbidden to infidels.
.................................

This probably is the reference.

Oakland, California is finally building a new Catholic cathedral, after the old one was severly damaged over fifteen years ago in the Loma Prieta earthquake. It is known as the "Cathedral of Christ the Light", and is topped with a huge glass dome.

While under construction, it was swathed with a bulky wooden framework. Someone wrote in to the Oakland Tribune proclaiming that this image was clearly that of a Hindu "Lingham", as she had seen many of these in her travels in South Asia.

Well, many Catholics would clearly consider a Hindu lingham to be an inappropriate symbol for a cathedral. There were a few back and forth letters, mainly claiming (correctly) that the image of the lingham had nothing to do with the design, and that moreover, no one would think it looked like a lingham when the scaffolding came down. A few people did openly wonder at the intelligence level of the first writer.

But that was it. No protests by Catholics or other Christians, no angry demonstrations at Hindu ashrams, no riots in the streets of Mumbai in front of the US embassy.

The Apple building in NYC is just ultra-modern. It is "Mecca" only in the way that Paris is a "mecca for art lovers" or New York during Fashion week is a "mecca for those who love new clothing design".

And yes, there is reportedly a bar in the Apple building. Most people are there to check out the new IMacs and Ipods, though, and are as likely to get a latte at the bar as anyting else.

Posted by: gravenimage at October 6, 2007 3:07 PM

Have they gotten a copyright on the cube® ?
Idiots

Posted by: interestinconundrum at October 6, 2007 3:20 PM

My doghouse is a fullfledged Kaaba with Q-verses and all. My dog loves it.

Posted by: Osmund Bindalen at October 6, 2007 3:35 PM

atheling,

I'm sorry to hear about your having been treated so nastily. I'm equally sorry to hear that anyone who wants to defeat Islam and save themselves from the enslavement of Sharia could be so narrow minded. Their tunnel vision is to their own detriment.

Protest marches are as much about numbers as they are about what the protesters are saying--maybe more so. I would think, after the poor turnout in Brussels, they would realize this. SIOE may never know how many Catholics they have alienated, who might have added numbers to their future gatherings.

Their silent consent to the criticism and disbelief doled out to you will hurt them. If they were smart, they would welcome anyone and everyone to march with them who is on the side of their cause.

You're a good egg, Atheling. I get that vibe from your comments here. Try not to let SIOE's foolishness upset you. I'd march with you, and anyone else here, anytime. (I wish we could plan some demonstrations. Traeh's literary counter-jihad comes close.)

Anyway, I hope you get over the hurt and disillusion quickly. I understand the way it comes at one, out of nowhere.

Best to you,
Cindy

Posted by: Abscedere at October 6, 2007 5:17 PM

Tear it down? Yeah, right! Ha, ha, ha, ...
Posted by: Havoc

I dunno.. I am not so hot on Apple myself recently.. who knows.. Bill Gates might chip in his knife as well..

just kidding!

Posted by: 2and2is5 at October 6, 2007 5:20 PM

Atheling, I would march with you anytime. I am sure that most people here at JW would, too.

Sorry about your bad experiences at the other site. They are foolish and short-sighted.

Posted by: gravenimage at October 6, 2007 5:48 PM

Don't be dissing Apple now. This is being typed on a 7 year old Powerbook that is running OS X 4.10.

Safer to attack Islam..........

Posted by: tanstaafl at October 6, 2007 9:42 PM

The NYC Apple store was my first thought when I saw this story.

The students said that building a wine-shop or a bar like the Kaaba amounted to the desecration of the holy sites of Islam. "Muslims all over the world should protest at this," they said.
They demanded that the US should apologise to the Muslim world over the Kaaba replica, and close down the bar immediately.

Posted by: FASTAC 6 at October 6, 2007 10:47 PM

I've always wanted to start a web cam of a koran being continually desecrated by being put in a pig pen, but then "do unto others as you'd have done to you." It would not be a loving thing to do. Just because Muslims are barbaric in their profound disrespect for other religions today, does not mean we need to stoop to their level.

No, don't start a bar with that name, but do promote some anti-jihad events.

Posted by: James Martel at October 6, 2007 11:42 PM

THE MUSLIM ALL-PURPOSE OFFENSE CARD

I, __________________ al-_________________,

am offended by __________________________.

Death to all ____________________________!

(Allah: Serve with mixed nuts.)

Posted by: profitsbeard at October 7, 2007 12:08 AM

Thanks, you guys, your supportive comments are greatly appreciated.

I am an American but I was contemplating joining the march in London because I have a Catholic British friend who might go (he just returned from fighting in Iraq) but I don't think we shall join SIOE.

I hope that we will eventually plan our own march here in the US, and if so, we will include people of all faiths (except Islam) who wish to express their indignation and protestation against Islamofascism in our country.

And I hope we all march together in this.

Posted by: atheling at October 7, 2007 12:38 PM

I think all portable toilets in America should be made to look like the Kaaba and with a free copy of the Qur’an inside. Of course it would not appear to be a toilet on the inside, a sign would be nicely hung above the hole that reads in English and Arabic,
“secret passage to Mecca” with an arrow pointing you in the proper direction.

Posted by: Bar at October 8, 2007 9:45 AM