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Some serious Inner Spiritual Struggle training going on in the UK: "Terror suspect: 'I'm Osama bin London....and I've got a bomb,'" from the Daily Mail (thanks to Jeffrey Imm):
A muslim organised terrorist training camps which were attended by members of the failed 21/7 plot to blow up the Tube network, a court heard today.Mohammed Hamid was arrested at a stall in Oxford Street with Muktar Said Ibrahim, the self-styled "Emir" of the bombing plot, the jury was told.
Hamid told police he was "Osama bin London" adding, "I've got a bomb and I'm going to blow you all up." He was among five defendants who went on trial today at Woolwich crown court on terrorist charges.
For the first time it can be revealed that the man described as Hamid's "partner in terrorist conversions" has admitted soliciting murder in the training camps across the UK. A court order was lifted today to allow reporting of Atilla Ahmet's guilty pleas last month at the Old Bailey to three counts of encouraging others to commit murder.
David Farrell, prosecuting, told the jury that Hamid had been involved in radicalising Muslim youths for two years.
The terrorist training took the form of camping and paint-balling trips in Sussex and the New Forest but had a serious intent, the court heard. They were designed to "foster within the participants that they were training for 'Jihad' against the 'Kuffir', or nonbelievers".
The prosecutor added: "To put it another way, their statements and actions resulted in the encouragement, direct and indirect, of the commission of acts of terrorism.
"As you will hear, a number of young men who attended camps organised by Hamid were in fact involved in attempts to kill and seriously injure passengers on the London transport network on 21 July 2005."
Posted by Robert at October 10, 2007 10:19 AM
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"Mr Farrell stressed that Hamid was not alone in training those who took part in 21/7 but with Ahmet's assistance he "was a recruiter, groomer and corrupter of young Muslims."
.....a corrupter of young Muslims?......nah, he was just bringing out the inner Muslim in the youths....
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at October 10, 2007 10:29 AM
----quote from thebostonchannel.com-10/01/07---
BOSTON -- A 27-year-old Washington, D.C., man faces serious charges after allegedly making a false bomb threat to an airline worker at Logan International Airport as he checked in.
NewsCenter 5's Amalia Barreda reported that Ermyas Asfaw, a native of Somalia now living in Washington, D.C., was charged with a single count of false communication of an explosive device in East Boston Municipal Court on Monday. Authorities said he claimed to be a member of al-Qaida as he checked in for an AirTran flight at Logan on Saturday night. He then allegedly threatened to blow things up.
"I'm with al-Qaida. I'm with them and I'm here to blow up things," Asfaw said, according to Logan spokesman Phil Orlandella.
Asfaw later told authorities he was *only joking*.
-----end quote---------------------------------
The Somali guy in the above story must be a friend of OSAMA BIN LONDONISTAN!
at October 10, 2007 10:45 AM
Anyone know the where abouts of a Crusader training camp?? I hear the Knights Templar are recruiting Christian's for Martyrdom.....oh hang on a minute i think i dreamed that last night!! or was it a foretelling??
Posted by: Demvaril at October 10, 2007 11:11 AM
Khomenini was wrong, there is fun in Islam. Just the last couple of days we have heard about the joking muslim wanna-be-bomber at Logan and those rascally muslims that put up those posters about "I Hate Muslims" on a college campus. Those guys are a riot. Can't stop laffing, somebody slap me.
Posted by: TheOmegaMan at October 10, 2007 11:19 AM
I guess Parlaiment will have to pass legislation restricting and licensing paint-ball guns and ammunition. Keep records, register ownership, police permission to buy, join a paint ball club, and on and on. Yeah, that's the ticket, if they can't practice very often, they can't become too proficient and therefore will be less dangerous.
That's a prediction, UK and US politicians seem to have clairvoyance when it comes to knowing what will get them elected, re-elected, and what laws will make the average Tommy or Joe feel good.
Posted by: Pelayo at October 10, 2007 11:39 AM
...feel good laws are usually worthless...they should try do right laws...such as Ban Muslim Immigration...
Posted by: exsgtbrown at October 10, 2007 12:24 PM
Please make sure you tell the "Islam is Peace" campaigners what you think of their religion. I already have.
Go to:
http://www.islamispeace.org.uk/mail/mail.htm
In their Guest Book:
http://www.islamispeace.org.uk/itmc.php?id_top=16
there is not a single negative comment. There is even a message from someone who states that:
I speak as one who lost a family member in the 7/7 bombings, and would like to congratulate you on your campaign.Posted by: watling
at October 10, 2007 12:25 PM
CTYankee -- Oh, great. My cousin works there. She was traumatized enough after 9/11.
Posted by: Josephine at October 10, 2007 12:45 PM
watling -- I remember reading some blogs and articles after the 7/7 bombing and some survivors said they blamed the government, not the bombers. Stockholm Syndrome?
Posted by: Josephine at October 10, 2007 12:47 PM
"...training camps across the UK." --from above
That's what jumped out at me from the article. The expression "training camp." It seems to be rather beyond dispute, doesn't it? And it seems to mesh with similar camps in the US and Canada. All of which is to say: Doesn't this bother anybody in the respective jurisdictions? Perhaps in the US, Second Amendment rights might be invoked to protect the rights of Moslems to bear arms, but even that surely must be modified by the frequently overlooked preface to the amendment "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, etc." So where's the regulation, good, bad or indifferent?
The fact that the presence of these training camps is scarcely known and that their legitimacy goes almost without any discussion whatsoever is a matter of concern to me. If the ATF and FBI could find a reason to go in after the Branch Davidians in Waco, they could doubtless find reason to investigate Moslem training camps as well --sedition, tax evasion, mail fraud, spitting on the sidewalk, whatever. Keep the heat on. Similarly, is it so difficult for MI5, CSIS and the RCMP to first identify and then find just cause to shut down training camps in their jurisdictions? Does the world really need an Osama bin London? So why isn't all of this done already? Who's priority ISN'T this?
Posted by: Chatillon at October 10, 2007 1:36 PM
No Josephine...not stockholm syndrome, it's called george soros syndrome.
at October 10, 2007 1:53 PM
jcom972 -- I know Soros is supposed to be bad but I don't really know much about him. (Does being Canadian excuse some of my ignorance?) What would George Soros Syndrome be?
Posted by: Josephine at October 10, 2007 4:28 PM
Chatillon -- Unless an informant gives the police videotapes taken at these training camps, how can law enforcement monitor and outlaw camping and paintball games?
"Just a nice youth group from such-and-such mosque going on a camping trip for fun."
I'm not disagreeing with you; I just don't know how it can be done.
As Iran's metrosexual president recently pointed out, Canada is a big place.
Posted by: Josephine at October 10, 2007 4:36 PM
But the UK government keeps telling everyone that Islam is PEACE!
The UK's government must now accept that it is unable to pretend that it can believably present Islam as a force for the good in British society or else it must completely cancel the PR campaign it is running that claims this to be the case with Islam in the UK. The government of the United Kingdom cannot have it both ways.
At this point it must be entering the minds of most British citizens that this type of destructive behavior is uniquely common among Muslims and that Islam is not likely to reform itself anytime soon (if at all) and that there is a crisis of historic dimensions brewing for the UK.
Posted by: pythagoras at October 10, 2007 9:08 PM
George Soros Syndrome=the CBC and the BBC. There are others for sure. It is just that these two are like the Frosting and Sugar Decorations on a Cake.
I suppose neither mentioned that Canada is projected to be Muslim by 2050. Multi-Culturalism at its finest. The CBC and the BBC at its best.
Posted by: flowerknife_us at October 10, 2007 10:14 PM
A very recent book by former UK radical Ed Husain, "The Islamist", is worth a read, so long as due allowances are made.
Particularly interesting on his experiences in Syria and Saudi, in English universities, and on British Security.
Posted by: MBR at October 11, 2007 4:16 AM
Josephine:
watling -- I remember reading some blogs and articles after the 7/7 bombing and some survivors said they blamed the government, not the bombers. Stockholm Syndrome?
I would say that the survivors' comments reflect ignorance, stupidity and the flawed policy of cultural Marxism which has permeated the nation, to the extent that too many people actually believe that all cultures and religions are equal, even though the facts scream out that they are not.
Posted by: watling at October 11, 2007 4:47 AM
Couldn't be that the lack of comments critical of islam being posted is because they are being censored surely not (sarcasm off)
Posted by: Realist at October 11, 2007 4:58 AM
Realist:
Islamispeace did respond to my email with some panned bullcrap that Jihadists like the above were misunderstanding the koran etc. I sent them back a speech by Osama bin Ladin to the Pakistanis loaded with Koran quotations telling them to overthrow the government and deal death to the unbelievers...they stopped responding. I was filed in the Islamophobe basket. I'm sure there are thousands upon thousands there. Keep those emails coming. Let them know they have a problem and are not going to pull the wool over our eyes.
Posted by: Briars at October 11, 2007 6:51 AM
watling & flowerknife_us -- Thanks.
Posted by: Josephine at October 11, 2007 12:49 PM
"What would George Soros Syndrome be?
Posted by: Josephine"
.....a Hungarian effort in futility....clearly identified by vast spending of large amounts of money in losing causes.....
at October 12, 2007 12:04 PM
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