She's right...and so is Robert.

We must shoot down those bogus arguments equal to the absurd "flies cause garbage" mentality or we're in trouble...
...it's also the main reason they so H-A-T-E islamofascism awareness week-it scrutinizes the hypocrites of the NTH degree that Ali & Spencer expose-the islamists fraud never stands up to honest forthright scrutiny-and that is THE ONLY reason for such beyond-the-pale feigned "outrage"s like we see approaching the IAW-if they DON'T succeed in shutting down IAW, it may be their day of reckoning, and they will do anything...and I mean A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G, to make sure that never happens.
Frauds always do.
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/9/24/152943.shtml

Posted by: jcom972 at October 10, 2007 1:27 PM

(PLEASE POST THIS ANNOUNCEMENT AT OTHER WEBSITES)

The Jihad Awareness Project (to wake up the U.S. Senate and Congress) currently has 107 volunteers in 44 states.

WE ARE STILL SEEKING ADDITIONAL CITIZEN VOLUNTEERS
FROM ALL 50 STATES, ESPECIALLY THE FOLLOWING 6:

Delaware
Mississippi
North Dakota
South Dakota
Vermont
West Virginia

THE PROJECT: We're looking for people in every state of the Union who would be willing to purchase, from Amazon or any other source, a copy of Robert Spencer's new book Religion of Peace? Why Christianity Is And Islam Isn't and mail it, on an agreed upon date, to one of the senators in your state. We want to get the book simultaneously to all 100 senators, in order to send a strong message. If we get more than two people per state, books can also be sent to the U.S. House of Representatives.

If you'd like to participate (or you just have questions), please write to me at traehnam@yahoo.com under the subject heading "Senate," and tell me the state your senator represents, and a nickname. No need for your real name. And I will never share your email address with anyone, not even with other volunteers for this project.

And visit jihadawareness.blogspot.com to get more info on this project and to leave comments other volunteers can read. You can also see there the growing list of participants in this project, and the states their senators represent. I've also designed a graphic that might amuse. Scroll down when you get to the site.

Once we have at least two people from every state, we can agree on a mailing date and then each of us can mail a copy of the book on that date.

Right before each of us mails the book, we’ll issue a press release to media outlets in as many states as possible, and in that way announce and explain the mailing. And perhaps we can come up with some other ways of maximizing the effectiveness of this project and gaining as much positive attention as possible.

One of the project's volunteers suggested contacting Rep. Sue Myrick, who started the Anti-Jihad Caucus in Congress. When we reach the goal of having all 100 senators covered, I'll call Rep. Myrick's office and see if she can help. I've called several congressional offices to get advice on how best to proceed.

Posted by: traeh at October 10, 2007 1:33 PM

WHO'S THE BIGGEST DHIM-WIT OF THEM ALL?

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush on Wednesday urged U.S. lawmakers to reject a congressional resolution calling the 1915 massacres of Armenians genocide, saying it would do "great harm" to U.S. relations with Turkey.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071010/ts_nm/turkey_usa_armenians_dc_6;_ylt=ApPj3Zi1VBPk9xMwAV7CGdcUewgF

Posted by: Ynkedoodl2 at October 10, 2007 1:34 PM

"The Western mind-set—that if we respect them, they’re going to respect us, that if we indulge and appease and condone and so on, the problem will go away—is delusional. The problem is not going to go away. Confront it, or it’s only going to get bigger"....from headline.

She is so SPOT ON!

It IS "delusional" to think that we can ignore the problem and simply be nice to our enemies in the hopes that things will change, that THEY will change. The truth is, WE need to change our mindset and our approach in dealing with this enemy. As she said, the only course of action is to confront it; and I don't think she has peace talks in mind.

Posted by: champ at October 10, 2007 1:41 PM

"The Western mind-set—that if we respect them, they’re going to respect us, that if we indulge and appease and condone and so on, the problem will go away—is delusional. The problem is not going to go away. Confront it, or it’s only going to get bigger. "

....any politicians reading today?....

it is only going to get bigger, and bigger, and bigger....

Ban Muslim Immigration...(and offer to pay for Ms Ali's security)...

Posted by: exsgtbrown at October 10, 2007 1:42 PM

Wow.

Her message is all the more powerful coming from an Apostate woman of color, a woman who has experienced the full weight of the Islamic bootheel and speaks with complete knowledge and conviction.

It will be a true pleasure to see the contortions of contradiction on the faces of the little snot-nosed moonbat radicals at GWU and Columbia and Berkeley--mere children and benefactors of the cushiest birth of any generation, anywhere, in the history of the planet, who have been taught to assuage their unutterable guilt at this fact by a rotted-out Academic culture mainlining in huge gulps the checks coming in from their parents. To see them confronted with such a force as Hirsi Ali, recognizable only in that she is dressed up in all of the layers of oppression they so admirably oppose while obsessing with their iphones, their MySpace pages, their international travel plans, their credit cards--that will be an event not to be missed.

Posted by: JohnAdams at October 10, 2007 1:43 PM

Close...top 5 maybe, but #1 & 2 are tied for tops...
kook-cinich http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57506
and pelosi http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,264334,00.html
still hold that crown, by far, along with "baghdad jim" mcdermott, murtha, & the ilk...errr, I mean the like.

Rhetoric is one thing, physically sucking up to the enemy in violation of the Logan Act is entirely another.

Posted by: jcom972 at October 10, 2007 1:47 PM

I don't think Hirsi Ali goes all the way in describling the reason for Islamic terrorism. True it isn't a question of respect, but neither is it just a question of power. The root cause is spiritual.

No group of people can put their faith in a set of dysfunctional doctrines like Islams and be expected to functional as normal people in a civilized world. Neither can they glorify a immoral character like Mohammad as the perfect man, and be expected to understand morality as it is understood by the rest of humanity.

Islam turned morality upside down. What is moral to the rest of mankind is immoral in Islam. What is evil to the rest of mankind is good in Islam.

In short, a people in spiritual bondage to this kind of pseudo-religious ideology are bound to be a mortal threat to the rest of us.

I know that Hirsi Ali is trying to be diplomatic, but I think she'd be a far greater service to the rest of the world -- and to the Muslim world itself -- if she simply told the unvarnished truth.

It is a spiritual problem.

Posted by: rational at October 10, 2007 1:48 PM

Excellent point, rational.

Posted by: champ at October 10, 2007 1:51 PM

The candidate who will meet with her, the candidate who will listen carefully to her, the candidate who will see that she makes sense, that her argument coheres, is the candidate who deserves to win. Nothing else matters, at this point, quite so much.

Posted by: Hugh at October 10, 2007 2:00 PM

Islamists know that too...that's why they're prepared to do to said candidate what they're doing to IAW, only MUCH bigger (read that as violent) scale.

Posted by: jcom972 at October 10, 2007 2:05 PM

"If we speak about the elements of Islam that give rise to violence, we will drive peaceful Muslims into the arms of the jihadists."

Isn't this a main argument put forth by the "Dilettante of Dhimmitude", himself?

Posted by: awake at October 10, 2007 2:15 PM

"The candidate who will meet with her, the candidate who will listen carefully to her, the candidate who will see that she makes sense, that her argument coheres, is the candidate who deserves to win. Nothing else matters, at this point, quite so much."

I completely agree.

Posted by: champ at October 10, 2007 2:32 PM

http://www.redhotjazz.com/hanshaw.html

then click on "I've Got a Feeling I'm Falling"

Posted by: Hugh at October 10, 2007 2:37 PM

I think this woman is great - brave, free and bold in a way that too many dhimmi pundits could never be and in a way that women are forbidden to behave in an Islamic society. ...

.. in a way - it is like "only an ex-slave can appreciate what slavery is all about" - and her analysis and commentary is far more trenchant than any of us can manage - because she has *lived it*

Ayaan Hirsi Ali - I doff my hat to you in respect ..

Posted by: drk at October 10, 2007 2:50 PM

Catchy tune, Hugh. Is that one for Robert? He must be blushing :-)

Posted by: champ at October 10, 2007 2:53 PM

The only candidate I know of who has ever mentioned Ayaan Hirsi Ali is Fred Thompson.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NzdlMjdiNmNhM2FhNDZjMjAwN2MyNDQyNjFiNGY3MjA=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0aMl1IvnRo

However, I know that Debbie Slussel is NOT a fan of Fred, in part due to the status of Spence Abraham as a big shoot in the campaign.

Posted by: JSobieski at October 10, 2007 2:56 PM

WHO'S THE BIGGEST DHIM-WIT OF THEM ALL?"

...I would nominate Olhmert (from Israel), Ahmadinejad (from Iran), A.Hooper (from CAIR), Barbara Boxer (from USA), John Murtha (from USA), Robert Mugabe (from Zimbabwe), John (the scream)Dean (from USA), Sandy Berger (from USA), Cindy Sheehan (from USA), Andrew Metcalfe, Immigration Department Head (USA), Jessie (the race whore) Jackson, Al (the Liar) Sharpton and Louie ( the lip) Farrakhan (all from the USA), Jimmy (the dhimmi) Carter (from the USA), Ward Churchill (lame college professor from USA), Dean Esmay (Muslim), Ted Kennedy (murder, USA), Michael Moore (slug movie director), D'nesh D'sousa (another Muslim), Ramsay Clark (American dhimmi)

...oh this is too easy....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at October 10, 2007 3:02 PM

Tolerance is probably the most powerful word there is in the Netherlands. No other word encapsulates better what the Dutch believe really defines them.
Reason interview

So that's why Theo van Gogh was murdered and Hirsi Ali was driven into exile? Because the Dutch are so tolerant of others? Do Dutch Muslims count themselves as "tolerant"?

Posted by: PMK at October 10, 2007 4:01 PM

Progressives who Interview Ms Ali must really hate how she can so easily put knots in their Thongs.

We can only hope that dealing with these types has not required he to need Blood Pressure Medicine. Lord knows she has had enough problems as it is.

Posted by: flowerknife_us at October 10, 2007 4:07 PM

"in part due to the status of Spence Abraham as a big shoot [sic] in the [Thompson] campaign."
-- from a poster above

Spencer Abraham is no longer with the Thompson campaign. That may say something.

Posted by: Hugh at October 10, 2007 4:14 PM

Thank you for this.

I tried to read the comments attached to the Reason article but it got too boring and depressing. Very few agreed with her or said, hey, I'll give that some thought. Most dismissed her outright and blamed "culture, not Islam".

Posted by: Josephine at October 10, 2007 4:18 PM

Hugh:

My former Senator (Spence Abraham) is still affiliated with the Thompson campaign---in an apparently prominent role.

See http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071009/NEWS07/71009015

I am not happy about it, but am still leaning to Thompson. To my knowledge, he has never uttered the phrase "religion of peace."

Posted by: JSobieski at October 10, 2007 5:00 PM

Josephine:

I posted about the article at redstate. I suspect the comments will be similar.

http://www.redstate.com/blogs/jsobieski/2007/oct/10/more_wisdom_from_hirsi_ali

I have been practicing my techniques at getting people to truly look at Islam.

If one characterizes Islam as computer virus that seizes upon the PC weaknesses of Western Civilization, then Ayaan is a God given payback.

I remember watching her on some left-wing Canadian tv show--the guy was stumped at her pro-American pro-western view point.

Posted by: JSobieski at October 10, 2007 5:05 PM

I see that I was wrong about Abraham's quiet disappearance. His continued role is not a good sign.

Posted by: Hugh at October 10, 2007 5:23 PM

JSobieski -- That's a good post. I'm not familiar with that website.

The Canadian interviewer was Avi Lewis. His father is the activist Stephen Lewis and his mother is the journalist Michele Landsberg. Avi Lewis is married to the journalist Naomi Klein. They are all strongly NDP (socialist).

Stephen Lewis has done a lot of good:
http://www.stephenlewisfoundation.org/

but I don't agree with his politics. He's treated like a saint in Canada.

Posted by: Josephine at October 10, 2007 5:38 PM

flowerknife_us -- She does seem calm and steadfast. I love that the most prominent aspect of Ms. Hirsi Ali is her intellect. It shines through that beautiful face of hers. She doesn't seem to feel any pressure to be "feminine" or "nice": she speaks the truth plainly, as some men would. (No "uptalk" or beating around the bush for her.)

Posted by: Josephine at October 10, 2007 5:45 PM

exsgtbrown - don't leave out GWU President Steven Knapp as a HUGE dhimmi after the "Hate Muslims?" posters deal. In his October 8 "Statement," before it was known that the Poster Perps were a MUSLIM and his non-Muslim PC MoonBat co-horts, man did he suck up! Ignoramus. The 16th President of George Washington U is a PC dhimmi ignoramus.

Isn't that great? Doesn't that just make you feel all warm inside? Oh. My. God. The original George is rolling over in his grave...

Posted by: darcy at October 10, 2007 7:18 PM

Regarding the Dutch,

" Tolerance is probably the most powerful word there is in the Netherlands. No other word encapsulates better what the Dutch believe really defines them. That makes it very easy for people to say that when they’re being criticized, they’re not being tolerated—and from there it’s only a small step to saying they’re being discriminated against or they’re the victims of Islamophobia or racism or what have you. "
--from this post

Regarding the roots of today's Moslem tolerance:

"There they stand, the Dutch with their completely justified and without doubt noble striving to dissociate themselves as far away as possible from Hitler's ideology. Completely blind to the fact that their path circles back to the other end at the Jews (with all due respect). The poor devils continue to misunderstand that a choice isn't necessarily between the Nazis or the Jews, predator or prey, oppressor or victim, but that there is an alternative, a third road, which is save yourself and guarantee the continuance of your own culture and your own country. It's simply this one, tiny misunderstanding, that will make the Dutch go down in history as the people who thought so deeply about a nightmare from the past that they ended up becoming that nightmare."

- Mohammed Rasoel

vom dem Buch

The Downfall of the Netherlands
['De ondergang van Nederland']

http://islamic-danger.blogspot.com/2006/09/moslems-are-not-jews-letter-to-germans.html

Posted by: unicorns62000 at October 10, 2007 9:10 PM

Going Dutch
By Hugh Fitzgerald (July 2006)


The Dutch government has decided that immigrants, by which is meant mainly Muslim immigrants, should have made available to them government-sponsored courses in the Dutch language, Dutch history, Dutch culture. And with those courses on offer, there will be new requirements. Immigrants will be required, within a very generous five years, to demonstrate a minimal knowledge of that language, that history, that culture. It is an act born of hope and despair. The hope is that these Muslim immigrants will, in learning these subjects, not simply be thereby better able to manipulate Dutch infidels, to make demands and to subvert the laws, customs, understandings of local Infidels using tools provided by those same Infidels, but will, instead, come to appreciate that Dutch society, (as Ayaan Hirsi Ali so clearly did), and instead of wishing to Islamize the locals or to have Islam dominate the Dutch, will themselves be in fact so transformed by this new knowledge, having acquired a knowledge of, and therefore deep appreciation for, Dutch freedoms, Dutch individualism, Dutch laws and understandings, Dutch thought and Dutch art, that they will not only profess loyalty to the Netherlands, but when they profess it, mean it.

To date Muslims in Holland, as elsewhere in Western Europe, have not demonstrated such loyalty or a desire to integrate through the acceptance of certain basic understandings. Instead, the younger generations of Muslim immigrants seem filled with fervor that increases rather than diminishes, and have created a situation that is unpleasant, expensive, and dangerous for Infidels in all of the countries of what Muslims call Dar al-Harb (the Domain of War) or the Bilad al-kufr (the Land of Infidelity, or Lands of the Infidels). They are taught to despise Infidels, to express hostility toward them, even at times to “cut off the heads” of the Unbelievers.This kind of sentiment, repeated so often in the Qur’an and the Hadith, has its effect.

The despair of the Dutch government is shared by the governments of other Infidel countries in Western Europe. They do not know quite what to do. Like other Western governments that of the Netherlands appears to believe that it simply has no choice, but cannot expel – why not? on what peculiar theory? – those who remain adherents of a belief-system that uncompromisingly divides the world between Believers and Infidels, and tells Believers that it is their duty to strive for the day when all parts of the world have removed all obstacles to the spread and dominance of Islam, so that the entire world will become part of Dar al-Islam. And the despair is felt most by those who have taken the time to thoroughly investigate the nature of Islam, not only the contents of Qur’an and Hadith, not only the example of Muhammad and the implications for Infidels of that example, but also to study the history, over the past 1350 years, of Muslim Jihad-conquest, and Muslim subjugation of many different non-Muslim peoples, all of whom suffered under Muslim rule in ways that one would, if one did not know about Islam, and the conception of the “tolerated” non-Muslim, the dhimmi, and his legal status, would be regarded as amazingly, rather than unsurprisingly, similar.


Whether they belong to the party of those Infidels who think the truth about the belief-system of Islam should be stated, or to the party of those who think one should avoid stating the truth, for fear of making that grim truth even truer, Europeans recognize that the belief-system of the millions of Muslims permitted into their midst poses an unprecedented and unique problem. For Islam is not quite like any other undeclared mental baggage brought by any other kind of immigrant. Dimly, or brightly, Europeans are beginning to understand that this business of a strict division in the world between Believer and Unbeliever, Muslim and Infidel. Muslims are taught, is taken to heart and is not theoretical. It is vividly alive for most of the world’s Muslims, no matter where they may be. T he Qur’an instructs them “not to take Jews or Christians as friends, for they are friends only with each other” and Muslims are taught never to participate in, nor to recognizae, the religious holidays of others. They are told to obey only those Infidel laws, in the Infidel countries they happen to live in, that Muslim scholars tell them do not conflict with Islam. They are taught that, as always, their sole loyalty must be to the Umma, the Community of Believers. Islam is a collective faith; it has no time for individualism or the individual. Muslims determined to carry on campaigns of Da’wa among vulnerable and carefully targeted groups of Infidels, ordinarily the psychically or economically marginal, are not trying to save souls so much as they are attempting to gather recruits for the army of Islam. And once recruited, those new soldiers are never allowed to leave Islam – or if they try to, they will be punished as deserters.

Muslims are taught that they are the best of people; that non-Muslims ideally should be subjugated to them; that the lands of the world’s peoples belong to Allah and to the Believers, and that in the end the entire world will, in fact, belong to them. They are taught to regard with contempt non-Believers, and the legal status of “dhimmi” that is imposed on non-Muslims (should they manage to be considered as “protected peoples”—which is only guaranteed to Christians and Jews as “ahl al-kitab” or “People of the Book”) is so onerous that over time many, to escape its burden, converted to Islam.

Holland needs to toughen its test for those wishing to become citizens of Holland. It should not be some multiple-choice farce, but so constructed as to constitute a serious inquiry into the mental makeup of the takeover. . To halt the tide of Muslim immigration that is now flooding not only low-lying Holland, but all member states of the European Community, more than a finger in the crumbling polder-dike of present immigration laws will be needed. The testing of would-be immigrants for Holland should make them no longer regard the country they have landed in as just one more part of the Bilad al-kufr, the Land of Infidelity or of the Infidels, an incidental variant on the them of the Kuffar. Those in England must learn all about England, those in France all about France, and those in Holland, all about Holland.


An immigrant must want to come to the Netherlands, for more than the free medical care, free education, free or subsidized housing and generous living allowances that Muslims all over Europe have become masters at exploiting beyond anything the creators of these welfare states ever contemplated. He must not merely be seeking an initial foothold to which he can be admitted, so that subsequently all of Europe will be open to him – to find the best way to be supported, and to work to undermine the very peoples and societies whose generosity he is exploiting for aims that those peoples and societies are only now beginning to comprehend.

It is a great privilege for someone from the world of Islam, a world that denies many forms of artistic expression, that discourages at every step free and skeptical inquiry by the Believers, that limits the freedoms of women, that encourages Believers to treat non-Muslims under Muslim rule at best as “dhimmis,” that is those non-Muslims subject to carefully constructed legal system, whereby all kinds of disabilities are inflicted on those dhimmis, the sum of which is a status of humiliation, degradation, and permanent physical insecurity. Mere geographic presence in Holland does not make one Dutch, and it certainly does not allow one to both inherit the legacy of a thousand years or more of Dutch history, and then to attempt to change, to mutilate, that very legacy, as one inferior to the only legacy that counts: that of Islam. .

The government of the Netherlands might wish to consider suggestions from outside. As a well-wisher, who prefers to keep Miep Gies in mind, or the retiring Professor van der Horst, rather than Menten or the wife of Wim Duisenberg, I have prepared a test that might fit the bill.

Here it is:


1) List five achievements of the Dutch East India Company from the time of its founding in 1602.

2) In appraising Dutch rule in the East Indies during the period 1880-1940, what acts of the Dutch were most deserving of praise, and what most deserving of blame?

3) When Jews expelled from Spain came to Amsterdam after 1492, many came and settled in Amsterdam. Why were they made welcome? How did this minority, quite foreign in many ways to the Dutch in language and culture, contribute in succeeding centuries to Dutch life? If you wish, you may concentrate on the figure of Spinoza and his role in the Enlightenment.

4) Who was Anne Frank, and why is the house in which she and others hid during World War II visited by people from all over the world? What is the historical significance of Anne Frank? Who was Menten, and what is his historical significance?

5) This question counts for one-third of the total grade on the entire examination.. So think carefully about its full significance before answering. Discuss three of the ten paintings listed below. Choose the painting that you find most appealing and the one you find least appealing and discuss your reasons for those choices:

a) Jan Vermeer's Woman With a Turban
b) Rembrandt's The Jewish Bride
c) Lucas van Leyden, The Last Judgment
d) Gerrit Dou, Young Woman Dressing
e) Henrick Avercamp, Winter Scene on a Canal
f) Geertgen tot Sint jans, The Assumption of the Virgin
g) Bosch, The Garden of Earthly Delights OR The Marriage Feast at Cana
h) Frans Hals, The Merry Drinker
i) Vincent van Gogh, Self-Portrait

6) Describe the part of the terraqueous globe most closely associated with each of the following:

a) Henry Hudson
b) Abel Jansz Tasman
c) Willem Barents

7) Describe briefly the significance of any three of the buildings listed below:

a) Pieterskerk in Utrecht
b) Grote Kerk in Breda
c) Mauritshuis in The Hague
d) Rembrandtshuis in Amsterdam
e) Erasmushuis in Rotterdam
f) Portuguese Synagogue in Amsterdam
g) Beguin Convent in Amsterdam


9) Among the famous foreigners who came to Holland seeking refuge were John Locke, Descartes, and Pierre Bayle. Choose any one of the three, discuss his significance, and explain why that person sought such refuge, and whether he found in Holland what he sought?

10) What was the effect on Holland of:

a) The Treaty of Utrecht
b) The Peace of Munster
c) The Treaty of Breda
c) The Maastricht Treaty


That's ten; there are two score more. Ten of those questions will be devoted to short but representative passages from Dutch intellectual history. The original Latin of some of the writers chosen – Erasmus, Grotius, Spinoza – will have been translated into Dutch. Ten more questions will be devoted to Dutch literature, and will range chronologically from Jacob Cats to Cees Nooteboom and Harry Mulisch. And a final twenty will be devoted to the most important text in Dutch history, the one which informs so much of its artistic and philosophical legacy. That text, or those texts, consist of the Old and New Testaments. Familiarity with the Bible stories without which no one can enter, say, the Rijksmuseum, and comprehend much of its contents, or without which so much of Dutch literature and history remains a puzzlement, will be essential for all those who will wish to partake of the civilizational legacy which the Dutch are generously inviting non-Dutch to share.

Extra credit? Well, we’ll give that a little thought. Possibly a paper, written outside of the examination room, on Pieter Geyl’s essays on historiography, or a paper on Huizinga’s “Homo ludens.” Yes, an essay on the spirit of “Homo ludens” will do nicely.

It won’t be an easy examination. But it shouldn’t be. Think of all the people who labored and invented and painted and wrote political tracts or a tractatus theologicus, and established joint-stock companies, and went exploring in distant lands austral and septentrional, from Van Dieman’s Land to Hudson’s Bay, and even from time to time went to war from time to time, all of which went into making the Dutch, the Dutch.

Standards will be high. The task of reading and judging examination answers should come to be regarded as among the most solemn duties for the citizens of Holland – that is, the indigenous Infidels who wish to keep Holland Holland. That is as it should be. No one has a right to complain, least of all those who come from societies far more violent, primitive, and collectivist than that offered to them, practically on a platter, by the people of The Netherlands, whose country it is. Obtaining Dutch citizenship, after all, is a very high privilege indeed. It can, and should, be made available only to the deserving – the deserving few.

Posted by: Hugh at October 10, 2007 9:48 PM

Mel Watt and the rest of the 'Ignorants' need to sit at the feet of Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

Posted by: never_submit at October 10, 2007 10:19 PM

Why does REASON not wonder:

What other "religion" threatens to kill you in order to stop you from leaving?

(The Mafia's modus operandi.)

What REASON could the pundits at this magazine have for downplaying such a demonically-absurd central tenet of Islam?

As if anything Hirsi Ali ever could say said would be more of an incitement to unholy violence than this root dogma of murderous Mohammadism.

Time for these REASON types to start reading the Muslim texts and stop asking UnREASONable questions.

unicorn6200-

You read my mind.

I was just going to post that exact same quote.

Also available at:

http://www.childrenofmillennium.com/heroes/downfall.htm

Scroll to the end.

Hugh-

Christiaan Huygens and Van Leeuwenhoek demand better of their heirs.

They handed them the macro and micro-cosmos, and they get a kowtowing to the superstitious in return.

The Dutch expression for this is "Stank voor dank". (pronounced like the Egyptian "ankh".)

Literally: "Stink for thanks".

Idiomatically: "No good deed goes unpunished."

Posted by: profitsbeard at October 10, 2007 10:29 PM

Sorry, that's ".org"-

http://www.childrenofmillennium.org/heroes/downfall.htm

Posted by: profitsbeard at October 10, 2007 10:35 PM

Lest we forget,

some Hollanders have--ah--male organs! (Some Ladies have them also, figuratively)

Remmber Geert Wilders? (How what was once "news" fades away . . .

so, to refresh faded memories . . .

see "The Halal Pig" (International)
http://halal-pig.blogspot.com/2007/08/congratulation-to-geert-wilders.html

the Hallal Pig is now at
http://grouik-grouix.blogspot.com/

for Europeans:

Le cochon halal

Le Blog du Cochon Hallal
http://grouik-grouik.blogspot.com

das Halales Schwein

And

of course, as always,

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015302.php

Posted by: unicorns62000 at October 10, 2007 10:42 PM

profitsbeard,

Here it is!

http://www.childrenofmillennium.org/heroes/faust/faust2.php

Posted by: unicorns62000 at October 10, 2007 10:50 PM

unicorn6200-

They must have changed the address since I last read it.

Thanks.

Posted by: profitsbeard at October 10, 2007 10:53 PM

Such a obvious ploy to stop people from speaking out.

Posted by: SoteriA at October 10, 2007 11:13 PM

I hear that Ayaan is back in the US now.

http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/08/aayan-hirsi-ali-is-back-in-the-us/

Posted by: atheling at October 10, 2007 11:47 PM

atheling -- I can't stop laughing! Your "An Encounter" piece was brilliant. Man!

Posted by: champ at October 10, 2007 11:52 PM

Things that make you a non-Muslim (according to Islamists)

These things will also get you kicked out from some Muslim blogs.

- Questioning the Koran
- Questioning Sharia
- Rejecting Islamic supremacy
- Equating Portraying of the Prophet with Free Speech
- Stating that the Crusades were defensive acts
- Stating that most of the modern terrorism is Islamic
- Using the following terms: Islamofascist, Islamonazi, Islamic Terrorism, Islamic Fascism
- Claiming that non-Muslims must have the same rights as Muslims
- Pointing out that criticism of Islam might have basis
- Admitting that Muslims bare some responsibility for rising Islamophobia
- Acknowledging that the Constitution trumps Political Correctness & Multiculturalism
- Refusing to doubt the Holocaust
- Questioning legitimacy of Palestinian claims
- Voicing support for Americans in Iraq
- Suggesting that Gitmo is better than most prisons in Islamic countries
- Suggesting that carpet bombing al-Qaeda is appropriate
- Affiliation with a conservative
- Doubting that Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck are racists
- Doubting Coulter's stupidity
- Laughing at 9/11 conspiracy theorists

Posted by: Muslims Against Sharia at October 10, 2007 11:57 PM

No wonder Mohammedans want this woman dead she speaks such self evident truths not only about the evil cult of Islam but about the PC,'Yuman rites' spouting , leftwing Moonbat culture so damagingly entrenched in all aspects of Western democracies too.

Posted by: Realist at October 11, 2007 2:55 AM

Muslims against Sharia,

Good luck with that organization.

Posted by: unicorns62000 at October 11, 2007 4:42 AM

"Muslims against Sharia,

Good luck with that organization.

Posted by: unicorns62000"

...hey...those two guys have a lot of material to work with....

Posted by: exsgtbrown at October 11, 2007 6:02 AM