"....brought to justice and punished for what they have done..."

Why do I get the feeling that anything short of severing this mans head, hands or feet is the only punishment that they will be satisfied with?

They want blood -- not what's fair & just.

Posted by: champ at October 14, 2007 4:54 PM

“We will launch an investigation and find out who has burnt the Koran. If it has been done by an American, we will punish him.”

Notice the assumption that the koran was actually burnt. Is there any proof, or are there still only allegations? And if it was not done by an American, will the real perpetrator be punished?

Tell them to go stuff their korans.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at October 14, 2007 4:57 PM

Greetings:

I guess the hiding behind their women and children and getting them killed and wounded isn't working so well anymore so the Muslims go back to their playbook (the Koran(t)) and see what else they can hide behind.

Posted by: 11B40 at October 14, 2007 5:00 PM

Apparently the Koran is more important than schools and roads built with Western billions, more important than women's rights and education, and more important than security from a resurgent Taliban.

Why not leave Afghanistan and let their book build the schools, build roads, and protect them, let the Koran drag them into the 21st century, teach them science, and freedom on conscious and equality before the law? If the Afghan Islamists with their precious Koran, think they could build a just society with that damnable book, let's see them try without our billions, aid, and military. If we could put a big dome over the lands of dar al-Islam, and never have to bother with them again.

Posted by: npabga at October 14, 2007 5:17 PM

So, apologizing to muslims for defiling a book is US policy? Good grief. We need a Commander-in-Chief.

Posted by: Havoc at October 14, 2007 5:19 PM

"Maybe this could be an opportunity for the Americans to explain that yes, they understand how the Afghanis revere the Qur'an, and that they have a policy of respecting that reverence -- but that if one individual acts in a way that is not in accord with that policy, it does not harm them, or the Qur'an, or Muhammad, or Allah, and that American good will ought to be readily verifiable all over Afghanistan, in the form of roads, schools, and other gifts of the American presence".

All deception-self-deception are suicide of the self. Islam permits deception, permits suicide (like the chuckle-headed demented Imams smiling saying "Islam means peace" as if their listeners do not see the truth).

Islam permits deception. How can they be expected to be objective-honest-truthful? It will not happen. We must deal with reality on this.

Is Fibrahim "Farfur style propaganda" Hooper alive (himself) when he lies and falsly attributes a post on JW to Robert? Is Edina "Ed-209-find my Nazi ancestors please" Lekovic alive when she pretends to be a victim? Only the truth will make such liars-deceivers free.

Posted by: Frank at October 14, 2007 5:24 PM

I'm still waiting for the apology from Islam for all it's terror since 622 AD

I'm still wait for the Afghans to apology for harboring OBL.

I'm so done with these Fascist, Misogynistic, Xenophobic, Barbaric, Supremacist Slayers.

Leave them to their mud huts and never grant any of them immigration or refugee status. Let them go back to their Tribal warfare. NO MORE JIZYA!!!

Posted by: senor doeboy at October 14, 2007 5:37 PM

Greetings:

I guess the hiding behind their women and children and getting them killed and wounded isn't working so well anymore so the Muslims go back to their playbook (the Koran(t)) and see what else they can hide behind.

Posted by: 11B40 at October 14, 2007 5:00 PM

What are they hiding from?

Posted by: Frank at October 14, 2007 5:40 PM

I checked at Amazon.com and for $1.83 (plus shipping) you can purchase a used Qur'an.

Since these villagers are equating the desecration of the Qur'an with the desecration of their religion, it follows that Islam is worth $1.83 (plus shipping).

Posted by: Xero G at October 14, 2007 5:53 PM

I say no more beads and thunder sticks for these savages. They have more respect for an inanimate thing than they do for human life. We should return to the Barbary War model: run around their edges with our cannons and occasionally whack them really really hard whenever they try to export their jihad but without getting mired in occupation.

Posted by: SaracensAtTheGates at October 14, 2007 5:54 PM

It is vital urgent and imperative that throughout the West, Qurans be flushed down toilets, burned and torn to pieces, a blizzard of cartoons (obscene? tasteless? bring 'em on!!)spring forth and wherever Muslims get special dispensations we invent our own Minister-By-Mail religions to demand equal treatment (satan-water tush washers at airports etc.).

Posted by: poetcomic1 at October 14, 2007 5:57 PM

With each outburst I wonder how many more people are growing tired of the infantile "thinking", irrational behavior and immorality of the Muslim.Lets see, a book may have been burned somewhere on the planet earth and that merits an apology to all Muslims of the world and perhaps punishment for the "perp". A child is burned alive in a Muslim suicide bomb attack and that's cause for rejoicing in the Muslim world with the killer treated like a "rock star".Thus you see the twisted "thinking" and "morality" of the Muslim.The good thing about these outbursts is that the world is getting a good look at Islam and most don't like what they see.Another effect is that people are becoming immune to Muslim outrage as the umma is liable to become upset about any trivial thing. Its time to say enough, so what if a book was burned, get over it, s**t happens.

Posted by: Roxane at October 14, 2007 6:04 PM

Since these villagers are equating the desecration of the Qur'an with the desecration of their religion, it follows that Islam is worth $1.83 (plus shipping).

Xero G-

Careful. The poor SOB's at Amazon might suffer for putting a low value on the Qur'an. Your comment might cause Muslim-Amazon rage. They might demand that Amazon distribute the Qur'an for free. Worse-Amazon might do the Dhimmi thing and comply. I can see the cartoon rage mob forming outside of Amazon, the accusations of "Islamophobia" (a favorite propaganda word of the Moe Howard "distinguished professor" Doctor Karl Ernst) and false statements attributed to Amazon by Fibrahim Hooper and the Ed-209 Liekovic standing right behind him.

Posted by: Frank at October 14, 2007 6:16 PM

Actually, I'm not at all sure what the soldier can be charged with. For example, I'm on active duty, but there is nothing to stop me from burning a koran so long as it is my own personal property. There may be a general order in Afghanistan that Korans will not be desecrated, in which case the soldier would be charged with violation of a lawful order--but not desecration of a Koran. Or, as suggested before, he may have wantonly destroyed private property. But in no case can the soldier be charged with "desecration of a Koran."

Posted by: longtime lurker at October 14, 2007 6:23 PM

My thoughts, Anyone whom raises arms against America or it's troops in Afganastain or Iraq. Over some supposed burning of their Holy book should be delt with firmly. To hell with the Hearts and Mind's crap, this is war and things are destroyed. We ain't winning their heart's and any one with a desire for freedom knows where(islamists) minds are. We are waisting good American Military personel, men and women alike. For a foe that would slit your throat in a second for their moon god allah.

Posted by: AMartinez at October 14, 2007 6:29 PM

I agree, this is definitely a teaching opportunity. We should tell them that Amerrican values do not permit for violence against others over the burning of a book, no matter how sacred that book might be to some members of our society.

That we consider the burning of someone else's sacred book a matter of bad taste, but nothing more. We also believe an act of bad taste that results in offending others should be followed by an apology, which we will gladly do after an investigation determines the offensive behavior actually occured.

Anything beyond an apology would not be consistent with our values, and any violence against Americans would be offensive to those values.

If they cannot respect our values, perhaps the Taliban are what they really need.

Posted by: rational at October 14, 2007 6:32 PM

I agree its time to quit trying to win the hearts and "minds" of primitive savages. That's just not going to happen when a people value a $1.83 book more then a human life.BTW - Harry Potter books and Ann Coulter's books both cost more then $1.83. What's the penalty for burning those books?

Posted by: Roxane at October 14, 2007 6:36 PM

“You have desecrated our religion,” resident Azim Khan told the US delegation.

But, of course, we infidels are wholly to blame for anything which diminishes their religion. Even when the Islamists behead babies, roast them and then serve them on a bed of rice to its mother. Even when the Islamists are the ones beheading priests, shooting nuns in the back, raping children, kidnapping people for profit, shooting from their churches, planning war in the holy mosques, planting roadside bombs in fruit, and on and on.

We are always there to be the scapegoat for anything which detracts from the glories of Islam.

In an upside down world where slang for "good" is "bad," I suggest we "punish" this soldier most harshly with an extra rest period, double his desert ration and give him extra air time on his call home to his family, girlfriend or wife.

Then, suggest to the Islamists that they start printing their beloved KKKoran in non-flammable material. That should give them something to think about besides sniping at our guys. I only hope that they don't find a way to succeed at my suggestion.

Indestructible KKKoran????

Posted by: BurkasforHitlery at October 14, 2007 6:56 PM

It's when I read yet again about Muslims making threats, including pronouncements of death, to those who are thought to have insulted Islam, regardless of the truth of the accusation, that I think the best way to deal with all this is to simply tell the Mohammedans that should they take to killing, then they will be killed and buried in unmarked graves with plenty of pork. Enough is enough. I'm fed up with outraged Muslims, losers in life through and through. What wretches.

Posted by: Wellington at October 14, 2007 6:58 PM

As they used to say during a more serious era's warfare:

"Nuts!"

Posted by: profitsbeard at October 14, 2007 7:11 PM

Here's a gem from the days of the Mohammed cartoons:

"Announcement

Due to the recent wave of cross-cultural incidents which have strained relations between the Muslim world and the more secularized Western nations, the joint Snuffallreddy/Feddupp Project is organizing mass publications of the Quran across North America and Europe in order to promote cultural sensitivity. These special editions of the Quran will be published as commemorative scrolls in easily hand-held sizes. In order to increase durability of these high-quality editions, all scrolls will be printed on artistic paper which has been specially re-enforced so that it is “two-ply” in the jargon of the printing world. The paper used is soft the more easily to wrap around the scroll, although purchasers are cautioned that this type of paper is also highly absorbent. Finally, because some find the scroll format inconvenient, pages of the scroll are perforated at frequent regular intervals so that pages can be separated easily. Purchasers are however requested strongly to keep in mind due cultural sensitivity when removing pages from the scroll in order not to lead to offense to our Muslim friends and neighbors.

18 Jun 2006."

Posted by: MosheC at October 14, 2007 7:14 PM

oh boy... the christian inquisition has finished, save some weird cases in Brasil where they punish people for making jokes about christianity...

But muslim inquisition is still ongoing... this is just plain evil!

Posted by: Dr.CancerMan at October 14, 2007 7:17 PM

“You have desecrated our religion,” resident Azim Khan told the US delegation.

Burning isn't an act of desecration. It's the most respectful way to dispose of religious items.

Don't Muslims ever wear out their Korans and replace them? What do they do with the old one?
What do Muslims NOT consider to be desecration? What happens to Islam if a dog touches the Koran or goes on it?
Does the fact that numerous infidels operated the presses and packed each book in its shipping container and unpacked it at the book store not mean Islam was desecrated? Those same printing presses might have been used to produce the Bible or the Torah. Infidel ink in the Koran!
Can we burn a prayer rug and have that be considered desecration?

Touchy, these Muslims. The Palestinians defiled ancient Bibles and religious artifacts during their occupation of the Church of the Nativity but Christianity wasn't desecrated.

Kinda makes you wonder why Islam is so picky. Are they so afraid of being exposed that you can't even look at them the wrong way? Isn't one of the world's "great religions" capable of withstanding even the possibility of ridicule? Babies, the whole lot of them.

Posted by: PMK at October 14, 2007 7:18 PM

Commenorative rolls of two-ply, highly absorbent, pliant and perforated squares? Quite appropo, MosheC.

Will it be marketed in the family bonus size pak?

And, biodegradable, so that it won't clog any sacred plumbing?

Posted by: BurkasforHitlery at October 14, 2007 7:22 PM

Muslims "respect" outer religions than islam? Ha. What a joke. Go ahead and turn on us, Afghans. We ain't apologizing for burning a book of lies and filth. You can believe it if you want to, but we will not be intimidated nor will we surrender to your book of lies. You wanna turn on us? Well, go ahead if you want your children to live and die in a world of anarchy, totalitarianism or worse.

Posted by: angryeagle at October 14, 2007 7:23 PM

After you apologize to those ungrateful lowlives for some imaginary slight, then you can apologize to us taxpayers for having squandered so much of our money in that rathole excuse of a country.

Posted by: jewdog at October 14, 2007 7:34 PM

I would like to buy a koran for what it is worth and sell it for what muslims think it is worth.

Posted by: pismopal at October 14, 2007 7:58 PM

Speaking of appologies when will Islam and it's followers be issuing any for thier crimes against the people of this world?

Any appologies offered up by my leaders, political or military, are not backed by ME.

How about Islam just apply thier Golden Rule here,an eye for an eye,or is that possible as all the Bibles in the land of allah have already been burned or not allowed to even enter?

Is it not true that there have been numerous reports of muslims desecrating churches and tearing pages from Bibles and Burning them?Pissing on altars and other Holy objects being defiled?

Was there ever a threat of violence by the "crusaders" for those actions?

All other people (most) are better than Islam.

Islam and muslims ahven't earned respect nor much of anything else.

Posted by: Dar al-harb at October 14, 2007 8:22 PM

US Captain Jason Coughenour said

We respect your religion

Who is "we", keemosabie? Is this official U.S. policy? What is U.S. policy on the Aztec god of war, or the Heaven's Gate cult that committed mass suicide, or the Aum Shinrikyo religion that released nerve gas in the Tokyo subway? Do we respect all religions, regardless of what they believe and regardless of what actions they take in the name of their religion?

What is it exactly that we respect about Islam? Their treatment of women? Their tolerance for non-believers? Their peaceful way of resolving conflicts? Their adherence to such basic ideals as honesty and the Golden Rule? Their sexual prowess with prepubescents? What it is?

Posted by: special_guest at October 14, 2007 8:30 PM

"Don't Muslims ever wear out their Korans and replace them? What do they do with the old one?"

Well, silly, they use them to blame infidels for desecration. Where did you think all these desecrated Qur'ans came from?

Brig. Gen. Jay W. Hood, commander of Joint Task Force Guantanamo
Hood's investigation also turned up 15 incidents in which detainees mishandled Korans between Nov. 19, 2002, and Feb. 18, 2005. Many of the cases involved detainees ripping up their own Korans, throwing the Koran or its pages out of their cells, or trying to deface a Koran belonging to another detainee. One detainee used his Koran as a pillow, one used pages from it to cover the air vent in his cell, and another ripped up his Koran and handed it to a guard, stating that he had "given up on being a Muslim."

Three of the detainee cases involved spitting or throwing urine on Korans, and in one case, on Jan. 19, 2005, a detainee allegedly "tore up his Koran and tried to flush it down the toilet," according to the report. Four days later, a detainee ripped pages from the book and tried to flush them down the toilet as a protest, because he wanted to be moved to another part of the camp.

Posted by: Concerned Citizen at October 14, 2007 8:32 PM

Concerned Citizen,
But those detainees can't be real Muslims can they? They're planted there by the West to give Islam a bad name. (Sarc off)

Then again, they say that in war anything is possible even if it is prohibited in Islam. So these guys will tell you they are committing acts of war against the occupiers, as if we care about their stupid book.

Posted by: PMK at October 14, 2007 8:41 PM

"So, apologizing to muslims for defiling a book is US policy? Good grief. We need a Commander-in-Chief."

Posted by: Havoc

We have one. Bush is the best thing to happen to the Democratic Party since FDR. Love it.

Posted by: SmartGrowthAdvocate at October 14, 2007 8:47 PM

"In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility;
But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger..."

William Shakespeare

Will we ever recognize that our policy of undo respect for their inspiration to jihad is as counter productive as respect for "Mein Kampf" would have been during WWII?

Had we been letting our troops do a proper tiger imitation, we could have burnt a soccer stadium full of Korans and this would not have been an issue, except for those seeking immediate martyrdom.

Is this policy the result of naiveté, stupidity, or infiltration of the enemy into our policy making? With six years to learn, it's getting harder to buy the naiveté option.

For a war waged about ideas, we're not making much an effort to force the enemy to accept ours, or even moderate theirs.

Me thinks we're screwed until our leaders accept this... or we get new leaders.

Posted by: RalphInfidel at October 14, 2007 8:52 PM

Well, my personal opinion is that they did a good thing, but in reality - I would say that they might have been checking for bombs hidden in books, etc.

As we see again - muslims are ok with murder - but a cartoon; doing something they don't like to the koran; or saying something about their prophet who lied, raped, stole, enslaved, tortured and murdered; and/or moon god - is a jailable offense - if not worthy of a death sentence.

Has anyone had a follow up on the Saudis who let out the Gitmo prisoners for ramadan we released to them that were in prison?

Posted by: R_not at October 14, 2007 8:58 PM

SmartGrowthAdvocate said

Bush is the best thing to happen to the Democratic Party since FDR

I'm no Bush supporter, but let's be honest: he wasn't the first to have these sorts of policies, and he won't be the last. Going back in time, not all former Presidents behaved as he does, but the problem at the moment is not a problem of an individual, but a problem of our society. Our society believes that all religions are fundamentally good, and that all people want freedom, democracy, tolerance, and the rest of Western values. These are assumptions that beg for an examination.

Posted by: special_guest at October 14, 2007 9:04 PM

rational -

No. We never apologize to our enemies. Ever.

However, we will dance on his grave and defile his most revered possesions.

PS: Rockies 1, D-backs 0 (1st inning)

Posted by: Havoc at October 14, 2007 9:11 PM

special_guest: In accord with you on two counts: 1) President Bush is indeed not the first American leader to maintain that Islam is noble and good and should be respected (he is, of course, wrong here). 2) SmartGrowthAdvocate (too touchy-feely a name for my taste)is clueless if he (or she) thinks that the Democrats are more realistic about Islam and Islamic terrorism than are the Republicans and Bush.

Posted by: Wellington at October 14, 2007 9:19 PM

Choose your candidates wisely in 2008. Our very existence might deoend on it.

Posted by: awake at October 14, 2007 9:33 PM

So far there are two that come sort of close to grasping what islam is all about, and they are not Democrats. Guiliani and Romney are the two that I am talking about. If anyone else has come close - I am not aware of that.

I would also like to add that the Pentagon certainly has not and they are ok with things as they are - not declaring who are enemy are and letting muslims set the tone while they are the ones who have declared war on us.

Posted by: R_not at October 14, 2007 9:43 PM

From Wikipedia:

Toejam \ˈtō jam\ - The acrimonious, often lachrymatious, amber, corrosive jell deposited on cheap paper (as that ripped from a handy koran) when muslims perform ritual ablutions without benefit of taxpayer-provided foot-washing basins. (Of course, a good muslim should wash his dogs in a mud puddle, drainage ditch, or treatment pond before turning to the Holy Book for a dry scrubb. But, that's just me; that's a value judgement.)

God (Allah)! I am about to hurl.

Posted by: Havoc at October 14, 2007 9:54 PM

Of course it is all nonsense. Merely the Muslim equivalent of those "blood libel" charges made by peasants and others in Western Christendom against Jews -- Hugh of Lincoln, etc. -- that led to massacres in many places, over many centuries. See Simon Wiesenthal's "Every Day Remembrance Day" for a very partial list.

Posted by: Hugh at October 14, 2007 9:56 PM

"If the perpetrators do not apologise to Afghans and to all the Muslims of the world, and if they are not brought to justice and punished for what they have done, we will stand against you, you will see an uprising"

I have the strong impression that Muslims react so violently to some perceived insult to Mohammad or Islam out of a deep-seated insecurity about their own beliefs.

It's as if they need us to verify those beliefs by acknowledging that there's something sacred about them. Why else would they insist that we pay homage to a person and a book that we don't even believe in? No other faith insist' on that kind of verification from non-believers.

I suspect that the whole rotten Islamic system depends for it's survival on intimitating others, and insuring that new ideas never penetrate the closed world they live in.

Posted by: rational at October 14, 2007 9:57 PM

Many Muslims insist that damage to the Qur'an is damage to Islam itself. So why don't those same Muslims keep their precious Qur'ans in climate controlled, vacuum sealed, sterile containers? What about the micro-organisms and bacteria present in the atmosphere that will undoubtedly transfer and start to degrade the paper and ink?

Even more curious; How can they hold such a fragile, holy, document with their unprotected left hand, knowing where that hand has been?

Posted by: Xero G at October 14, 2007 10:07 PM

In times like these, I can only think of that old Irish expression: Go Fu.. Yourself.

Posted by: thibjac at October 14, 2007 11:01 PM

A Quran written in Engilsh or Urdu is not the genuine article. The purveyors of on-line Islamic opinion say that a non-Arabic Quran is an interpretation and is not the word of Allah. I have never read where they describe it simply as a translation.

Hugh has written about Islam being a vehicle of Arab supremacy (supremacism?). The rules that make an non-Arabic Quran an ordinary book is a good example of Arabism uber Alles. It would also seem to be a way of inhibiting the use of the local language.

Posted by: Pelayo at October 14, 2007 11:12 PM

Whine and cry jihad, demand an apology jihad...
It should go something like this, 'We are not here to respect your religion, we are here to fight Al-Qaeda, insurgents and terrorism. We understand your concerns, but they are not our concerns. If you attack us, you will become our concern. It is not to your advantage to have us 'concerned' about you.
If we see any of our soldiers desecrating a Quran, we will deal with him. I would expect that addresses your problem...

Posted by: duh_swami at October 14, 2007 11:22 PM

The answer.

Confiscate all Korans.

No further problem with Korans.

Posted by: profitsbeard at October 14, 2007 11:35 PM

I say no more beads and thunder sticks for these savages. They have more respect for an inanimate thing than they do for human life. We should return to the Barbary War model: run around their edges with our cannons and occasionally whack them really really hard whenever they try to export their jihad but without getting mired in occupation.
Posted by: SaracensAtTheGates

Works for me.

We're dealing with evolutionary savages, so stop babying them. They understand nothing, but they understand death. Let them wallow in it, they're begging for it. We've never had experience of a people who want to be killed off. Well, here's a first. We have the firepower from the air, and space, so why bother with them on the ground? If their Koran is so important to them that they insist upon remaining primitives of the 7th century, then let them have it. And every time one of their heads pops up, shoot it. These 'les miserables' are dying to die.

No more mr. nice guy. They've asked for it, we comply gladly. Finish them off and move on. We've wasted enough time and resources, and brave soldiers on them already. They are not worth it, those supremacist ' Arab-Islamic best people', etc. They're just savages.

Posted by: Battle_of_Tours at October 14, 2007 11:52 PM

It seems to me that all these rules about how to treat the Koran can get someone into an awful lot of trouble. Think of the poor illiterate who can't read up on the does and don'ts. Someone should draw a simple to understand guide showing pictorially what not to do: a Koran being burned, flushed down a toilet, trodden on, thrown into a bin, lying in the dirt, torn up and the like, with a smiley face (looking extremely un-smiley) next to each pic to show how wrong each of these actions is. A hand with thumb pointing downwards or a diagonal cross representing 'wrong' would serve equally well.

Posted by: wallyUK at October 15, 2007 12:07 AM

wallyuk...Think tee shirts...e-bay...

Posted by: duh_swami at October 15, 2007 12:37 AM

the true danger in this whole business is the reaction of our so-called stupid "leaders".

Posted by: james collins at October 15, 2007 12:38 AM

well considering how the Bible is treated in Saudi Arabia and other Muslim countries and the Christian religion is treated along with other religions Muslims should not say anything until they respect everyone's religion

Posted by: mowasaperv at October 15, 2007 12:53 AM

BFD.................

the poor muslims sound just like the leftist liberal dems..........

our poor beliefs.............. if you beliefs are so weak that burning of a koran is makes you crazy, then you may just be following the wrong cult............

Posted by: Texican at October 15, 2007 1:05 AM

"They want blood -- not what's fair & just."
Posted by: champ

Then, perhaps blood should be given to them. Tell them that hostilities can be renewed at the first sign of an uprising, and DO IT if the idiots try !

I'm about getting fed up with the pantie-waisted way that our government requires our military to act whenever the jumping jihadiis throw one of their perennial hissy fits.

These people seem to have the emotional maturity of a bratty five-year-old and the morals of a goat.

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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
(Edmund Burke)
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Posted by: Rowane at October 15, 2007 1:34 AM

It becomes more and more clear to me that there is absolutely no reasoning with those that embrace Islam. Nothing short of death will prevent them from killing those of us who insist upon remaining free... Prepare...war is coming to your door. You won't have to seek it out. It will find you...and soon I think.

Posted by: Alaskan at October 15, 2007 4:24 AM

And if the Qur'an was daamaged because it was in a building which drew a retaliatory attack from our soldiers, what then? Is the Qur'an supposed to be their super-shield against our soldiers, better even then women and children?

{^_^}

Posted by: jdow at October 15, 2007 4:33 AM

The Karzai government is nothing more than a drug cartel, posing as a political regime. There is NO opium eradication being done in Karzai's beloved Pashto regions. Under our insane legitimation, Afghanistan has gone from opium to heroin producers. Border regions are polluted with drug factories, which pay Taliban/al-Qaeda 15% of proceeds from ulawful sales to Europe and North America.

See this interview with Ibn Warraq:
http://www.qantara.de/webcom/show_article.php/_c-478/_nr-688/i.html?PHPSESSID=726d3209aebfe0ca26277f7e0d78ed50

And check out Juan Cole's leftist,dhimmi page, for an account of an Iraq Shiite fatwah movement against foreign based corporate security in Iraq. Suggestion to Jihad Watch viewers: wherever President Bush uses the word "freedom," apply the term "tyranny" in its place.

Posted by: supercargo at October 15, 2007 4:56 AM

See this rare Anti-Clash, dhimmi account for the rise of Islamism. Note: the author uses tacit means to smear Clash forces with Fanonite accusations of neo-colonialism, and pseudo democraticization. However, given the Clash-Forces lame response to the Islamofascist Agression, it has to be said that the article reflects a majority view of media-academic elites. Mr Spencer, rather that stating the perversity of Islam, you should be exposing the belief system of the Dhimmi.
http://www.qantara.de/webcom/show_article.php/_c-651/_nr-18/_p-1/i.html

The overwhelming majority of Bush-Antis (viz Clash) are fixated on the notion of the Abrahamic linkage of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Why? Because those who would seek to persuade the deceived to understand the Satanic pollution beliefs viz texts sacred to the Ahl-Kitab (People of the Book; the Abrahamic-Christic Testaments), have been prepared to GIVE Bush his Abrahamic fiction, because he has put US troops close to the enemy. Take a closer look; Bush's Middle East Democratic Initiative has caused legitimation of political-Islam. If another Bush clone was handed a long mandate, then Islamofascism would threaten the US Homeland, under the cover of export of ersatz "freedom."

Is Islam unconscionable, per se? If you answer anything but yes to that, then you are a useful idiot for the mortal enemies of Western Civilization. True Clash-Partisans don't want the enemy to vote; we want them to die, and by any means necessary to crush jihadism.

Posted by: supercargo at October 15, 2007 5:34 AM

"If the perpetrators do not apologise to Afghans and to all the Muslims of the world, and if they are not brought to justice and punished for what they have done, we will stand against you, you will see an uprising"

Bring. It. On.

Posted by: arjun.sevak at October 15, 2007 5:38 AM

Threats of violence aren't a legitimate means of ensuring respect for a system of unprovable ideas.

Ideas don't deserve respect - people do. People are worth saving. Ideas that are allowed to spread through violence or killing are not worthy of respect or protection.

Either the ideas stand on their merit or they should be discredited and abandoned. Unfortunately only a fraction of the world's population agrees with this basic rule. We shouldn't be surprised when other civilizations fail to behave as the West does.

Islam doesn't deserve respect, let's face it and face the consequences of saying it. Better now than later.

Posted by: A_Plague_on_Both_Houses at October 15, 2007 9:28 AM

Robert reported:
"If the perpetrators do not apologise to Afghans and to all the Muslims of the world, and if they are not brought to justice and punished for what they have done, we will stand against you, you will see an uprising"

Robert sez:I know that US Captain Jason Coughenour's intentions are good: he wants to be respectful to the Afghanis, and avoid enflaming hair-trigger tensions. But it does seem to me that assuring them that if an American did this, he will be punished, just feeds into the idea that rioting and killing, or starting an "uprising," because of the desecration of a book is a perfectly proportionate and reasonable response.

Robert, I'm not sure I follow this correctly,here: Did US Captain Coughenhour indeed make the quoted comment you reported? The reason I ask is because it doesn't sound like the words of an American, and a certain word is not spelled in American English. Just looking at this makes me think someone is trying to pull something over on the reader.

Posted by: hardball at October 15, 2007 10:45 AM

How can an abomination be desecrated?

Posted by: Sencit at October 15, 2007 11:34 AM

How can an abomination be desecrated?
Posted by: Sencit

The only way I know of to write an abomination is to have an abomination write it. The Quran desecrates itself because its author is an abomination...

Posted by: duh_swami at October 15, 2007 1:44 PM

“We respect your religion,” he said.

Speak for yourself, Captain. (Why would we do that?) Do we really respect people who value a belief system that suggests it's wonderful to murder others for thinking differently? Moreover, Koran is just a book, as is the Bible, or "French In 32 Lessons." Frankly, if you burned my copy of "French in 32 Lessons," I'd be more than a little peeved. But, I certainly wouldn't behead you or blow you up.

Posted by: Amy Alkon at October 15, 2007 2:12 PM

I'm so tired of these annoying Islmo-emos complaining about every little thing. It's even worse that our Government feels the need to have to apologize for everything that happens in war. This wouldn't be a problem if they just went back to the holes they crawled out of.

Where are all the people apologizing for the whackos in SanFran desecrating Christianity as we speak?

Posted by: Stinkyinfidel at October 15, 2007 2:15 PM

The latest on the Muslim version of the old blood libel that is part of the history of antisemitism in the West:

"KABUL, Afghanistan - The U.S. military said Monday it had looked into allegations that soldiers had desecrated the Quran during a raid on an Afghan home and found no evidence that soldiers had defaced the Muslim holy book.

The allegations sparked an outcry among villagers in the eastern province of Kunar, who met with the governor, provincial leaders and U.S. military commanders on Sunday over the issue. Kunar deputy provincial governor Noor Mohammad Khan said American soldiers raided the home of Mullah Zarbaz on Saturday morning, arresting him and three others.

Villagers alleged that soldiers ripped, knifed and burned a Quran during the raid, allegations that sparked an angry demonstration on Saturday, Khan said. Two Afghan officials had been assigned to investigate the allegations, and a U.S. commander at the meeting Sunday said the military would punish anyone who had defaced the holy book, Khan said.

But Maj. Chris Belcher, a spokesman for the U.S.-led coalition, which oversees Special Forces soldiers who usually carry out nighttime raids, said Monday that the allegations had been investigated and were found to be baseless. “We looked into it. There was no desecration of the Quran or any religious symbol by U.S. forces,” Belcher said. 'Had a soldier desecrated it, we would take action.'"

To repeat the posting above:

"Of course it [the charge] is all nonsense. Merely the Muslim equivalent of those "blood libel" charges made by peasants and others in Western Christendom against Jews -- Hugh of Lincoln, etc. -- that led to massacres in many places, over many centuries. See Simon Wiesenthal's "Every Day Remembrance Day" for a very partial list."

[Posted by: Hugh at October 14, 2007 9:56 PM]

Posted by: Hugh at October 15, 2007 5:12 PM

10 to 1 it's a fake story made up by the jiahdists (if not done by themselves to begin with) unhappy with the lack of jihad in afghanistan...

...coupled with the fact that, knowing the lexicon of these loons, namely that their demand consists of an apology, AND being "brought to justice" (often means being executed, if not long prison terms- in other words, they demand BOTH, not just one OR the other, but BOTH-above and beyond rational-as if) which would only serve to justify the jihadists own pathetically lame position anyway...

...such a double-demand means they know damned good & well that it is considered unreasonable to the western forces, the jihadists know it won't be accepted, so either way, the jihadists are "justified" in their pseudo-righteous propaganda they made up to rejuvenate the jihad in Afghanistan which had steadily been faltering until recently.

Yet another fraudulent claim of injustice, brought on by liars trying to light a fire under the @$$es of their fellow durkanese because it's not moving fast enough to suit their delusions...because they've been losing their own @$$es * don't like the fact we'd gotten the initiative.

Jenin! jenin! (again) anyone?
lol

Posted by: jcom972 at October 15, 2007 7:13 PM

"We will punnish them".-With a big hearty slap on the Back! A Job well done. Keep up the good work.

Shut up about it or we will use them to Burn our dirty Socks and Underware. Army Laundry Service.

Posted by: flowerknife_us at October 15, 2007 10:21 PM

Imagine what the reaction would be if they found out what was done to their "book" by those who DIDN'T admit what they did to it!

I saw one first hand...friend who's a farmer, he made a point, bought the expensive kind, gold plated koran with arabic text, not english...
I asked him what & why, he just said "sshhhh, just makin' a point" so I watched him throw it in the pigpen just before feeding time, when pigs eat anything (including their own elimination material).
The pigs wouldn't even go near it...he laughed & said "thought so".
I asked him what the point of all that was, he said:
"animals sense evil".
I guess when even a "filthy animal" won't touch it, makes ya wonder...

lol

Posted by: jcom972 at October 15, 2007 10:59 PM