One million Muslims of 16 million citizens: more than 6 percent. The horror is only starting.

Can "America alone" be successful if there is no re-birth in Europe? The Europeans can start by pulling back the welfare state and, especially, the welcome mat. Why let victimizers in, even as they claim to be the victim?

Posted by: StillBreathing at October 21, 2007 3:27 PM

I don't see how anyone can look at The Netherlands and discern anything but more and more trouble for that country as the years roll on. I wonder what percentage of the Dutch realize that very possibly the only solution to saving their nation is the expulsion of Muslims en masse.

Posted by: Wellington at October 21, 2007 3:41 PM

Look at what "progressivism" has wrought...
And the "progressives" in the "new world" are so eager to catch-up to their like-minded Eurabians.
Prepare USA - but don't look to the "government" or "elites" be they left, right, or neither, to defend and protect us. None of these derive their wealth or temporary powers and authority from us any longer, but from the "global community" to which they now owe their mis-guided allegiance.
The Brussles gathering to "organize resistance to islamization and shariah" is a step in the right direction, but resistance is needed against those who have already allowed islam to get as far as it has -globally-; i.e. the "elites" and "global diversity/one world government advocates". It is these who are fully aware of what is happening and why and are who handing us over to the wolves...

Posted by: TINBH at October 21, 2007 4:03 PM

The price of dhimmitude

Why the Hagia Sofia was lost forever, thanks to the British

http://illustratedpig.blogspot.com/2007/10/price-of-dhimmitude.html

Posted by: shiva at October 21, 2007 4:17 PM

I wonder what percentage of the Dutch realize that very possibly the only solution to saving their nation is the expulsion of Muslims en masse.

Posted by: Wellington

Isn't the Dutch nation slated for demolition anyway? Won't it and and many other "nations" be lost in the European Union? Will it matter what the Dutch do if their example is not followed by the rest of the EU?

Posted by: PMK at October 21, 2007 4:41 PM

It's interesting to hear someone going by the name of Shiva complaining about the Treaty of Berlin, 1879. The music-hall song designned to whip up war fever in Britain at the time went;

"We don't want to fight
But, by jingo, if we do:
We've got the men,
We've got he ships,
We've got the money too
-The Russians shall not have Constantinople."

This was parodied at the time with:

"We don't want to fight
But, by jingo, if we do:
We won't fight ourselves
-We'll send the mild Hindu."

The song, of course, gave the word 'jingoism' to the language.

Posted by: wallyUK at October 21, 2007 5:22 PM

for "Treaty of Berlin 1879" above (which established the Dual Alliance) , read "Congress of Berlin, 1878" which revised the the Treaty of San Stefano.

Posted by: wallyUK at October 21, 2007 5:30 PM

The 22-year-old Moroccan had been undergoing treatment for psychiatric problems and had in the past been questioned over contacts with Islamic militants linked to the murderer of Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh.

Psychiatric problems and terrorist leanings. How long will it be before a predisposition to terrorism is identified and labeled a "disease" by Psychiatric Associations everywhere?
Instead of killing or imprisoning terrorists, we'll "get them the help they need".

Posted by: PMK at October 21, 2007 5:32 PM

Islamic logic: "If you don't let us kill you, we'll burn your cars in protest!" And yet it all makes perfect sense from their cultural perspective.

Posted by: special_guest at October 21, 2007 6:04 PM

There is no democratic solution to the Islam problem. The entitlement class and Muslim voting blocks will ally and from here on out be able to out-vote those pulling the financial wagon.

“The Socialist Party Demands”
http://socialism.org.uk/manifesto/demands.html

5,000 young British skilled workers and professionals leave weekly because of high taxes and social problems. Bye bye tax base.

As the US Constitution was being drafted, three-fourths of American males were denied voting privileges because they did not meet the property and/or tax requirements of their States’ voter eligibility standards. The system was stable and worked well. Once suffrage became widespread, it was just a matter of time until the electorate bankrupts the Treasury and collapses the government.

This will happen long before Muslim populations becomes a strategic threat to Europe or America. The real threat is to freedom and individual rights. The theory goes that democracies are always replaced with dictatorships. Dictatorships tend to be intolerant, and 47:3 is still a pretty good ratio, all things considered.

Islam will be seen as a vaccine against ourselves.

Posted by: pez at October 21, 2007 6:04 PM

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/10/21/dutch-intifadah-continues/

From the age of 13 up to his death on Sunday, the police said, Bajaka had been involved in several major criminal incidents, including armed robberies and a series of violent incidents. He was allegedly (?) part of a criminal gang.

So why did the death of Mr. Bajaka make them so upset?:

Moroccan-Dutch residents of Slotervaart complained to reporters they were “sick and tired” of continuous “negative news reports” about fellow Moroccan-Dutch, adding they felt increasingly stigmatized.

To which Charles Johnson replied:

And what better way to counter those negative news reports than to riot and burn stuff?

Sorry, the farce doesn't end there. From the Klein Verzet blog (in English):

the local authorities fear riots in the big local Islamic community.

Thus they go to the 'youths', to the mosques and the imams to explain to them what happened.

Local burgomaster [chairman of the city council] Ahmed Marcouch is even sending his condolences to the parent of the terrorist. He is even planning to visit the terrorist family today, although their is no report of a visit to the wounded police officers. Friends of the terrorist can even come to a special room at the city office, were sandwiches, coffee and tea are served to them.

* Get this, the city mayor visited the idiot’s family, but NOT the officers who were attacked.

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at October 21, 2007 7:12 PM

Full day to day coverage of the Dutch Intifada:

http://kleinverzet.blogspot.com/2007/10/suicide-attack-in-amsterdam.html

Posted by: Ferdy at October 21, 2007 7:26 PM

PMK: Well, irrespective of Muslim incursion and the sundry problems which have ensued because of Mohammedan intransigence in The Netherlands, you may be correct that "the Dutch nation is slated for demolition anyway" because of the EU, but I would argue any country has to fight one possible demolishment at a time. Besides, as bureaucratically stupid and politically correct (minus PC nonsense where Islam is concerned) as the EU is, it poses no real threat to America, while a sharia-dominated Western Europe most definitely holds all kinds of potential terrors for us here across the pond.

Posted by: Wellington at October 21, 2007 7:29 PM

In the western democracies, I think it's not just the electorate, but also the leadership. Assad, dictator though he may be, still thinks in terms of the nation state, in his mind he represents a Syrian people, which are different from surrounding people, and he believes that to some extent it is in his own self-interest to further what he views as their interests. Of course he is selfish, but he didn't lose the ability to distinguish the us (the Syrians) versus them. This actually gives him a great advantage when dealing with the US leadership because he can define Syrian interests much more clearly then the US leadership can US interests.

Because the US leadership has had their judgment clouded by post-modernist “multicultural” theories to the extent where they have trouble distinguishing between us (Americans) vs the them (Mexicans and other foreign nationals, wealthy Saudi personal friends). This creates problems because they assume that the other elites also reached the post-modernist phase where they don’t include nationalism in their decision making (why should Putin care if the Russian oil is in the hands of western corporations if they pay Putin handsomely, for example, and so they misjudge the course of action Putin takes). It is really severely interfering with their ability to resolve foreign crisis effectively.

For example 9/11. If this problem was resolved traditionally, the outcome would be something like the following. The US had an absolutely legitimate casus belli against Saudi Arabia and Pakistan because terror networks that they funded and created just killed 3, 000 of it’s civilians. They also had the military force to defeat them. The traditional way of dealing with that problem is declare war on both countries, eliminate both of their military forces, and then when they came to plead terms in a peace treaty, demand control of oil fields in Saudi Arabia as war reparation, and permanent renouncing of weapons of mass destruction in the case of Pakistan. The few nukes that Pakistan had at that time could have been taken out with preemptive strikes, and the Pakistan could have been put on notice that a detonation by them of a nuclear weapon in the conflict would bring an overwhelming US nuclear response. India could have provided the ground troops for that conflict with the US air force providing air cover (Chasing Osama in the mountains of Afghanistan without striking at the states – Saudis and Pakis- that created him is not an effective use of military force – they can continue to create as many Osamas as they want).

But this wasn’t done. Instead, the Bush administration chose the post-modernist muddled path of trying to co-opt our enemies. Well six plus years down that road all it has to show for it is increasingly complicated huge mess as well as increasing probability of a nuclear strike on our homeland, because the limited response to 9/11 that didn’t make war on the foreign governments (Saudis, Pakistan) that trained and created the groups which were behind 9/11 actually increases the chance that a foreign government will provide a nuclear weapon to jihadis for use against the US in the hopes that US will not respond with nuclear strikes against the government responsible even if it learns which government did it.

Posted by: godfreyofbouillon at October 21, 2007 7:41 PM

godfreyofbouillon said

the limited response to 9/11 that didn’t make war on the foreign governments (Saudis, Pakistan) that trained and created the groups which were behind 9/11

Even in Afghanistan, where the 9/11 terrorists last trained, we only did a few weeks of warfare, followed by five and a half years of "nation building" for our "great friends and allies", the Afghan people, who hate us as much now as they did back then. They just have newer roads and nicer schools and better bridges now.

Posted by: special_guest at October 21, 2007 8:00 PM

Watch Islamofascist Awareness Week flop, miserably:

Anti-jihadis insist on refusing to persuade politicians of the dangers of aggressive Islam. While Muslims agitate against "islamophobia" in legislative halls of the regimes that they seek to destroy, Anti-jihadis think all they have to do is collect a few bargain-bin-in-a-month books, and presume that their knowledge of the enemy will impress.

Do we need to open the Rhetoric-Bombers heads and implant knowledge of the futility of soap-box ranting against effective Muslim agitation, on their brains? Won't work, the book-thumpers - who lack even a Manifesto - are immune to self-perception of their pathological futility. Anyway, the enemy is prepared.

http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/islamo_fascism_awareness_week/0014805_

So, I will just sit back and watch the Front Page wheel spinners fail yet again. Maybe if they keep failing they will at long last properly engage this military-political debate, and actually influence political leaders.

Sorry David Horowitz, when you were a Marxist you couldn't start a mass movement to save your life. Nothing has changed. You can blow your soap-box rhetoric out your ear. You are fading wallpaper. The Anti-Jihad will be at long last waged by people who know how to challenge the mortal enemy.

Posted by: supercargo at October 21, 2007 8:14 PM

supercargo said

The Anti-Jihad will be at long last waged by people who know how to challenge the mortal enemy.

I guess we'll soon be reading your bio in the paper, followed by renewed calls for gun-control, or at least a better screening process.

Posted by: special_guest at October 21, 2007 8:30 PM

Wellington,
By itself, the EU is no great threat (the Common Market has been there for decades) but the EU is being done WITH an Islamized Europe.

The Dutch might fight valiantly but all their efforts will be in vain with the EU hovering over them. How do they ban Muslim immigration when the borders between EU nations will mean as much as the border between California and Oregon? How do they ban travel between EU nations? Can they?

As for the threat to America, how many of these countries still have visa waivers? Anyone who is a citizen of an EU nation can travel to the US. Is this wrong?

Posted by: PMK at October 21, 2007 8:31 PM

Shiva:

Western indulgence of Turkish Muslim savages didn't stop in the 18th century. Constantinople (Istanbul) was occupied by British troops on March 16, 1920. In a 1927 speech, Ataturk quotes from a statement of the Army of Occupation:

"1. The occupation of Istanbul is temporary.
2. The aim of the Allied Powers is not to weaken but to strengthen the authority of the Sultanate in the territories that will remain under Ottoman administration.
3. The aim of the Allied Powers is not to deprive the Turks of Istanbul but if - God forbid - anything in the nature of general uprest or massacre should occur in the interior of the country, this decision may be altered."

When the intervention in Soviet Russia failed, the Allies pulled back from all areas of advance. However, Ataturk feared that his European enemies would use the Caliphate as a "political tool" so he abolished it in 1924, and set up some transient secularism (Layiklik) to con Europeans into thinking that Turkey was only yet another independent nation.

President Bush isn't independent on the Europeanization of the Asiatic beasts; his diplomats have been agitating against European identity politics, as did he speak out against the French ban on wearing islamic slave garb in public facilities.

Posted by: supercargo at October 21, 2007 8:40 PM

* Get this, the city mayor visited the idiot’s family, but NOT the officers who were attacked.

Posted by: sheik yer'mami

Par for the course. They probably spoke to mayors in USA who have kowtowed to rioters rather than support their own PD.
It's of a piece with blaming coalition forces in Iraq or Afghanistan for firing at "civilians" who had set up a bomb or were simply "throwing stones".
This insanity is all through the West. Multiculturalism has worked beautifully. Now it's YOUR fault that someone isn't happy. YOU are to blame for not giving them the keys to the city (and every house in it) and telling them to just have fun.

Posted by: PMK at October 21, 2007 8:44 PM

supercargo

NO WAY!!

I'm gonna be at Emory University supporting Mr Horowitz

have you seen our opposition? Revolutionary Communist Youth Brigade. http://rcyb.info/atlanta/ifaw.htm

I wouldn't miss this for the world.

Anyone else going to Atlanta on the 24th?

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer at October 21, 2007 8:44 PM

"If the police had just peacefully consented to being stabbed, none of this would be happening".
Schoolyard bullies,There's no hope for people like these.

Posted by: general pershing at October 21, 2007 9:02 PM

The passive-aggressive madness and savagery of Muslims really is a form of mass psychosis. The disease renders them unable to accept the only cures available: complete assimilation or apostasy. They are like drug addicts, and the West seems to feed them drugs because they are too afraid of forcibly denying them of their drug. Muslim rage in Western countries will end only when we have zero tolerance for it.

Posted by: Wimbledon Womble at October 21, 2007 9:35 PM

Is this being covered by the Dutch media? The Eurabian media? Haven't seen anything in the American media, but I've only had the TV on for baseball.

Posted by: Alarmed Pig Farmer at October 21, 2007 10:47 PM

Speaking for myself, I blame the policeman. Bloody cops.

Posted by: ewha1 at October 21, 2007 10:57 PM

Look, many still refuse to believe that taking in the immigrants was a mistake. They continue to delude themselves.

Posted by: DavidE at October 21, 2007 11:07 PM

Always with the psychiatric problems.....

Posted by: interestinconundrum at October 21, 2007 11:41 PM

Case-in-point,
thank GOD for our 2nd Amendment in the US, which is why they don't try that here.

Posted by: jcom972 at October 21, 2007 11:48 PM

I still have not forgotten a profession I learned long ago courtesy of the U.S. government.

In that context,it gives me great pleasure to see the arrogant Euros, who are sooo much more intelligent and perceptive than us Amerike barbarians

Walkin’ point - FOR ONCE!

Posted by: Davegreybeard at October 22, 2007 12:40 AM

"Dutch intifada continues"

The Dutch authorities seem determined to keep a lid on things so as not to provoke the rest of the Muslim population, so they'll kiss every Muslim a*s in the Netherlands just to keep them quiet. I wouldn't be at all suprised if the two police officers are canned for using excessive force.

Posted by: rational at October 22, 2007 1:01 AM

'Speaking for myself, I blame the policeman. Bloody cops.'

From a terrorist sympatizing poster above.

I blame the Muhammedan indoctrination system and the spineless politprops who don't crack down with the full force of the law on these jihad monkeys.

If it was up to me the army would be out in full force with shoot to kill orders.

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at October 22, 2007 1:23 AM

The mess with Islamic immigration in Europe reminds me of a scene in the cartoon, "The Emperoror's New Groove" in which the bad guy pounds on the door of the innocent family yelling, "Let me in! Let me in, and I'll burn your house down!"

Posted by: Karl at October 22, 2007 1:54 AM

DavidE

It's called sarcasm.

Posted by: ewha1 at October 22, 2007 2:49 AM

I'm surprised that the secular progressives haven't gotten out the marshmallows for roasting, claiming it's all a misunderstanding. The "riots" are one big massive jamboree.

Posted by: Kevin at October 22, 2007 2:51 AM

Oh dear, you too, by: sheik yer'mami

If you'd actually bothered reading the blurb in the header you'd notice that Mr Spencer, Mr. Fitzgerald, or whoever had introduced this article, had used that new fangled device - sarcasm - too.

Pour le example If the police had just peacefully consented to being stabbed, none of this would be happening

Serously LOL.

Posted by: ewha1 at October 22, 2007 2:54 AM

KLEIN VERZET - note especially update 4 for the real reason for the attack.

http://kleinverzet.blogspot.com/2007/10/suicide-attack-in-amsterdam.html

Kuffars killing Mohammedans is prohibited. A WOMAN kuffar killing a Mohammedan is just dozens of steps further than too far.

And the Mayor of Amsterdam's response is "do nothing." When they break the law they get ten day sentences even when they have a rap sheet longer than a full Manhattan telephone book.

{^_^}

Posted by: jdow at October 22, 2007 4:28 AM

ewha1, I don't blame sheik yer'mami since self was taken in by your post. Until I read your name at the end, that is.

Posted by: arjun.sevak at October 22, 2007 5:04 AM

From arjun.sevak."Until I read your name at the end, that is."

Oh har di har. Hi there, arjun, how's it going my friend?

Many thanks, jdow, for the simply outstanding blog. Very informative for anyone with the time.

There's a couple of videos near the end of the blog, if anyone's a little short of time, of a couple of cars in flames.

From the blog:

"Other news today: This week Dutch parliamentary restaurant started serving halal meals. And in an other part of Amsterdam Moslem's protested to get a mosque from the state."

Beyond satire. Beyond parody.

Posted by: ewha1 at October 22, 2007 5:16 AM

Point taken.

Anyhow, The natives flee, socialist multi-culti elites replace them with a Muhammedan proletariat:

http://sheikyermami.com/2007/10/22/eurabia-the-natives-flee-socialist-multi-culti-elites-import-muhammedan-proletariat-to-replace-them/

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at October 22, 2007 5:17 AM

No problem, SYM. Take care.

Posted by: ewha1 at October 22, 2007 5:22 AM

ewha1,
Dutch parliament has gone halal ? You're kidding !

Posted by: arjun.sevak at October 22, 2007 5:28 AM

The sister of the terrorist Bilal Bajaka is a Dutch judge. That’s right, a judge. In the Netherlands you can become a judge while you’re brothers are terrorists!

http://kleinverzet.blogspot.com/2007/10/suicide-attack-in-amsterdam.html

Posted by: sheik yer'mami at October 22, 2007 5:31 AM

Yes, it does seem that way, arjun. What can one say?

The feeback from that blogsite

http://kleinverzet.blogspot.com/2007/10/suicide-attack-in-amsterdam.html

is very good. Of note particularly is

a the Dutch peoples wonderful command of English. Much better than....cough.....yours truly.

b their wicked sense of humour. For example

"Oh BTW, can we nominate the RoP for the Nobel prize for peace. They have been working so hard to get it, and yet the committee has ignored them. Maybe if they get the award next year they will stop trying so hard."

That's good stuff.

Posted by: ewha1 at October 22, 2007 5:57 AM

PMK: Your points are well taken. The ease with which EU members' citizens can travel, both throughout much of Europe and even to here, complicates an already complicated problem----------Muslims, full of ingratitude and with attitude, peopling themselves most everywhere in the West. Once again, damn that seventh-century psychopathic fraud of a merchant for ever living.
Mass expulsion of Muslims may be the only solution but as of now I don't see either the realization or the resolve to do this. Too bad. Everytime a new mosque goes up in a Western country it represents another potential nail in the coffin of Western Civilization.

Posted by: Wellington at October 22, 2007 6:53 AM

Excellent coverage on Klein Verzet. Peace at any cost. It's appalling.

If it was up to me the army would be out in full force with shoot to kill orders.
Posted by: sheik yer'mami

Agreed. And if any group, rather than muslims, were protesting (what are the odds?) likely the army would be out.

Posted by: ImNoDhimmi at October 22, 2007 8:18 AM

sheik yer'mami sez: * Get this, the city mayor visited the idiot?s family, but NOT the officers who were attacked.

Welcome to the world of "political correctness", Friend. The world's gone mad.

Posted by: hardball at October 22, 2007 10:54 AM

From Hardball::The world's gone mad

It certainly is a tad wacky. I'd rather look on it as supreme naivety.

The European elite are building mosques and allowing islamic law to flourish in their own cities. The US are building mosques and allowing islamic law to flourish in Afghanistan and Iraq.

It's a tough call, but i'd say the European dhimmis are slightly more "Jemima Puddleduckish" than the US dhimmis. As I said, it's a tough call.

www.peterrabbit.com

Endearing naivety. Really. What's to hate?

Posted by: ewha1 at October 22, 2007 6:53 PM

The similarities between the Dhimmification of large areas of Europe and Operations "Iraqi Freedom" and "Aghan Freedom" - or whatever cheezy name's been assigned to the farces - are striking.

aIn both cases, the hardline Islamists are bullying/murdering the more moderate leaders. See the elections in Iraq for example

bIn both cases, Western gov'ts are ploughing in fortunes. A trillion in Iraq for example

bThe infidels are leaving in droves. In some Europeans cities we have large scale migrating away from the city centres by the infidels. In Iraq, the minority infidel groups are being decimated. Their populations have left Iraq.

bWe have the same overly optimistic scenarios. In Iraq, "If only we could build just one more mosque then they'd all suddenly love us". This is similar to many pronouncements in, say, the Netherlands.

bThe muslims are being armed by the US in Iraq. Both shiite and sunni groups. The infidels are being left defenceless. This is being mirrored in places like the Netherlands. The police in effect let whole areas become lawless. Unable or unwilling to stand up to mob islamic rule.

And so on and so forth. What's happening in Iraq and Afghanistan are but mirror images of what's going on in some cities in Europe.

The problem lies in thinking that islamists are nothing but Pennsylvanian Quakers in silly costumes.

As any fule kno.

Posted by: ewha1 at October 23, 2007 1:03 AM