After I clicked on the link concerning Nonie Darwish at Berkeley, posted by awake on another thread, and saw and read what those Leftist American Terrorists put that fantastic woman through, I felt so ashamed that I posted a comment on the "Daily Californian" - Berkeley's school newspaper.

I don't know if my non-PC comment has been posted yet as their comments have to be moderated. But, I expressed the shame I felt at seeing and hearing these - as I just said - Leftist American Terrorists harass and terrorize Darwish.

The revulsion I feel at those students' horrific behavior simply cannot be adequately expressed.

Posted by: darcy at October 24, 2007 10:18 AM

Sad, wasn't it Darcy?

Posted by: awake at October 24, 2007 10:26 AM

As Mr. Spencer said, "Leftist and Muslim thugs."

Feeling ashamed of America is a new feeling for me - only a few months old. I feel shame about our President still referring to Islam as a "rop."

I feel shame about the aforementioned thugs (also called "students"), at Berkeley and Columbia and Tulane etc etc. I no longer revere any of our once-august educational institutions that have now become dhimmified.

All of my shame for America has to do with Mohammedans and how we are letting them run roughshod over us.

Posted by: darcy at October 24, 2007 11:24 AM

Note that Horowitz believes that the reason Darwish got such rough treatment is because she is a woman.

Suggest at her next appearance she be introduced by an islamophobe, perhaps like myself, who with some introductory remarks will draw out the lowlifes and thus target and thereby have them removed.

Her message is too vital to allow itself to be drowned out.

Posted by: dgene at October 24, 2007 12:00 PM

It always happens - Some clown always brings up the parts of the Bible that Christians no longer follow. They are always reminding people of the passages that are intended to keep women silent and subservient. (See anything written by Paul.)

Here is the response: "So what, Christians realized that those passages no longer apply. Those passages were outgrown when women were educated. Islam, on the other chopped off hand, has not changed one iota since 632."

There are also those creatures when confronted with the truth of Islam can only talk about American "terrorism." It's the same thing when one points out someone else's problem, they have to retort, "Well you smoke cigarettes." Psychologists probably have a $20 word for it.

Posted by: Pelayo at October 24, 2007 12:05 PM

Berkeley is the armpit of leftist existence.
Anyone who tries to speak non leftist will be shouted down or worse. Most of the easy going, dope smoking liberal hippies, moved out, leaving hard core leftists in charge. The UC campus is infected with them, so Noni Darwish treatment by them, is standard fare...To be expected...I hope this does not dampen Noni's spirit, probably it won't.

Posted by: duh_swami at October 24, 2007 12:22 PM

Re: "Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week Day 2"

I read Nonie's article in today's edition of FrontPageMag.com. I found it very informative, expecially coming from the daughter a former soldier of Nasser's Egypt (United Arab Repulic).

I liken the feminists' hatred of Nonie to the hatred of Justice Clarence Thomas by the likes of Jessie (anti-Semite) Jackson and Al Sharpton.

Posted by: CTYankee at October 24, 2007 12:24 PM

I attended Nonie Darwish's lecture at UC Berkeley on the 22nd. UC Berkeley is my Alma Mater. I hope it's all right if I post at some length.

Before the lecture I ran into an old friend--someone I'd done pet rescue work with. We had rarely discussed politics--to be honest, for a moment I wasn't sure if he was there for the lecture or the demonstration. Luckily he was there to hear Nonie Darwish.

It soon became clear that I was right to have been concerned, however. Many of the people showing up early at the lecture hall were clearly not people concerned about the threat of Islamo-Fascism.

There were three people wearing "Guantanamo"-style orange jumpsuits--one sporting a black hood. Several more wore "Peace not Prejudice" t-shirts, in an appropriate shade of Islamic green. Others wore black t-shirts with an Arabic slogan, with (presumably a translation) "we will not be silent" underneath it in English. This is ironic, since (as Ms. Darwih later pointed out) there is no freedom of speech in the Muslim world--she herself is under a Fatwa for speaking out. Also, silence is, notoriously, the proper consent for a virgin to an arranged marriage. There were quite a few hijabbed women present.

The bulletin board outside the lecture hall was plastered with anti-Islamo-Fascism Awarness Week flyers. One was headed "Anerikans (sic) Jerkoff, Muslim Wimmen (sic) Die". This gives you a sense of the level of discourse.

The campus police were a presence, but at first a rather disorganized one. I actually asked them if they were going to search bags since Ms. Darwish is under a Fatwa. The people there early had just walked right in. Finally someone with the College Republicans asked if we would mind going back out so we could be checked in. Police had people check larger bags.

The minute Ms. Darwish came out some in the audience started calling her a tool and a racist (odd, since she is an Egyptian Arab herself).

She began with talking about her childhood growing up in Egypt and Gaza as the child of a high-ranking Egyrtian military officer. (Please note, I do not have a transcript of her speech--I have rough notes only. What follows will be as accurate as I can recall). She talked about the constant hatred of Infidels, Jews especially, that she was taught in school and in many of the Mosques. At Friday prayers she often heard "May God destroy Infidels"--they were warned not to befriend infidels or--significantly--make treaties with them. As a child, she had thought of Jews as sort of bogeymen--they were even told that a Jew offering them candy would be attempting to poison them. They were taught that hate and terrorism are honorable.

Women were told they should sacrifice their husbands and sons to Jihad. She talked about the position of women in Islam-how poligamy destroys any bond of trust between husband and wife, how it exists as a constant threat to women even when men do not marry multiple times--and the attending threat of divorce, the Female Genital Mutilation, the beatings, and finally the threat of honor killings.

When Ms. Darwish was a girl, they had a maid who had been raped and impregnated by her previous employer. When the rapist's wife had found out, she had blamed the victim as a seducer. Later the maid disappeared, and they learned that she had been murdered by her own father for bringing "dishonor" to the family. She was only sixteen.

Her own father led terrorist operations against Israeli civilians. Once Israeli forces entered their compound, hoping to arrest her father, who was away at the time. There were only women and children at home. From what she had learned about Jews, she thought they would all be killed. She was stunned when they were all left unharmed. Following the incident, though, the guards were charged with treachery for letting the Israelis get in--one guard died from his torture.

About a half hour into the lecture security stopped admitting people to the lecture hall. Some of those left outside started beating on the wall of hall. This was very threatening and made it difficult to hear.

Coming to America she was amazed by its freedoms and decency. She was especially struck by its freedom of speech.

She talked about how there is no self-criticism in Islam--the media blames all problems on Infidels. She had visited Cairo for the first time in twenty years and was struck by how much radical Islam had spread. More women "covered-up", and the anti-Infidel rhetoric was even more pronounced.

She returned to the US on September 10th, 2001. When she saw the burning towers the next morning she knew it was radical Islam. Yet. when she talked to friends in the Middle East, they were all deeply in denial. They all claimed that Arabs could not have been responsible for 9/11, even as the destruction was widely celebrated in the Arab world. She talked a lot about the culture of shame, where no one allows any criticism, or ever practices self-criticism. In fact, not only is self-criticism in the West and Israel seen as weakness, it is often seen in the Muslim world as an admission of guilt, since Muslims almost never admit to any wrongdoing.

She talked about the omnipresence of lies in Muslim culture--lying to infidels (taqiyya), lying to family, lying to the state, the media and state lying to its citizens.

This makes any attempt at reform in the Muslim world difficult. In fact, the Muslim world is in no way tending to reform--it is becoming more radical. She spoke a lot about the incresing radicalization of Muslim communities in the West. She said increasingly Western Muslim women are told to adopt hijab, even though few wore it even in Egypt and Gaza when she was a child. She talked about the Saudi funding of Imams, Mosques and Madrassas around the world spreading the most violent and radical interpretation of Islam.

There was a lot of jeering throughout. The police had to ask several people to leave. One man consistantly tried to drown her out, spouting inanities such as terrorist violence being a reasonable response to the US's "consumption of one-third of the planet's resources". When he was asked by police to please let her speak, he screamed over and over that they "were dialoguing". I think most reasonable people would consider this heckling. He was finally escorted out. There was also a small fist fight--all participants were ejected.

Ms. Darwish talked about the widespread stagnation and violence off the Middle East, and the increasing push for Shari'ah in the West--footbaths, the refusaml of Muslim cabbies to pick up passengers with dogs, women (many who would not be allowed to drive in their home countries) pushing for drivers licence photos taken in full niquab.

She says she did not come to the US to become Wahabbi.

She said reformers--Muslim and Western--must stand up against Shari'ah injustice and the Jihad. She the left should stand with reformers--they are natural allies. Unfortunately this got her jeers from much of the crowd. She said feminists should stand up for women in Iran and Nigeria under threat of stoning, and free-speech advocates should stand up for reformers and apostates. She talked about the plight of apostates. She herself is an apostate--a convert to Christianity.

She said there must be no appeasement, and that we must all stand up against Islamo-Fascism.

During the Q and A, no one addressed the issues Ms. Darwish had brought up. One asked about George Bush, who is the "real terrorist". Another asserted that what went on in Abu Graib was far worse than anything that goes on in prisons in the Middle East. When Ms. Darwish disputed this she was shouted down.

She did eventually become a bit flustered by the constant heckling, understandably so. She made a lot of important points, certainly appreciated by at least some in the audience. A brave and articulate woman.

Posted by: gravenimage at October 24, 2007 12:46 PM

Mr. Spencer, I believe it is inaccurate to describe Ms. Darwish as "ex-Muslim." To my knowledge, she is still a Muslim, as she proclaims in David Horowitz's film, as well as in the video provided in the link you gave us today.

Posted by: Jonas Salk at October 24, 2007 2:09 PM

A fearless lady. A great Arab heroine of freedom.
Contrast her to those 12 revolting Dallas cowards who have just acquitted a powerful global Jihad organization, to CAIR's gleeful jubilation.
SHAME ON DALLAS !
SHAME ON TEXAS !
COWARDS, LOWLY DALLAS COWARDS !
COWARD, COWARD, COWARD COUNTRY USA !

Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

Posted by: Enragedsince1999 at October 24, 2007 3:46 PM

The tipoff of declining the interviews is because most of them don't even attend school there...most of them are kinda like "rage boy", the traveling indignation victim.

Several of the loonies are what we call "professional protestors"...you get the idea.
(voice of experience+ data collected by police frieds who've arrested some of them on occasion)
-Many are just losers out for the freebie food & drinks since many of them don't know what a JOB is...
...most don't know what a LIFE is, either...
...many tend not to even have a GPA at all, lol...
...some are proven schizophrenics on SSI (for non-US, that's federal welfare payments for various "disabilities", including mental),
...others, still, are known affiliates of violent groups monitored by the FBI for outright terrorist activities (which is usually reason #1 for covered faces)...
...many have FTAs (failure to appear-warrant outstanding) on PD computers
...in the Big Valley out here (the inland NORMAL side of California), every single person protesting with a hood (hoodieboy is awfully familiar)
(example-CalState-Stanislaus) got arrested, and, lo & behold, ALL of them turned out to be fans of RCP, anarchy groups, ELF, ALF, and/or worst, "blaque block" (every time they show up, it's going to get violent-their forte' are such events as FTAA & world trade seminars like that which happened in Seattle & the one in Canada not long ago). It's why they stick to the bay area & lalaland for their protests anymore.
One that got arrested a couple years ago hiding behind a hood turned out to be on FBIs terror watch list...and is being watched like a hawk (big hint).

Cockroaches don't like the light of day, or reality...nor does the islami-commie alliance network who, without instigation by them, such heckling...oooops, I mean "protesting" would never even happen.
You don't seriously think it was spontaneous, do you? lol

Posted by: jcom972 at October 24, 2007 5:05 PM

More on the islamicommie useful idiots out here...via their useful idiot site SPindymedia...
vs. Nonnie Darwish
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/10/21/18455068.php
especially frantic reaction(ary) to the movie "Obsession", Berzerkely
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/10/21/18455073.php
against Brian Sussman at SFSU
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/10/21/18455071.php
against BCR's quotes of terrorists at Bezerkely...
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/10/21/18455076.php
(that's today)

...and that's just the SPindybay chapter's spew...
http://www.indybay.org/

Posted by: jcom972 at October 24, 2007 7:24 PM

Berkeley was cute on "Dharma and Greg" but that's about it. I am starting to feel rather menaced by this place and its kind.

We need to either demolish the place and disband its hordes of semi-organized crazies or else quarrantine it for being the lunatic asylum it actually is.

Poor, lovable Nonie. And she is such a trooper! God bless her.

And deliver us all from Islam.

Posted by: pythagoras at October 24, 2007 10:46 PM

menaced?
nah...even rank-n-file liberals here that I know cringe at what a wacko place it is...and that's really sayin' something coming from them.
Besides, it's not THE worst of the worst anymore...
(yes, there is now one worse than Berzerkely)
it's UC-Santa Cruz
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=9071575D-E896-4C2D-967A-0CEB4B17EEDE

Posted by: jcom972 at October 24, 2007 11:39 PM

Regarding whether Darwish is a Muslim or not, she mentions in her book "Now They Call Me Infidel" that she became a Christian.

This link also mentions it...

Darwish converted to Christianity 10 years ago. Some of her supporters have argued that she would be a more effective voice if she had remained a Muslim.

"But I needed a spiritual life, I needed to be among a religious community that wants me to be a better person.

...as well as this link. Googling her name brings up some wiki sites with similar info.

Posted by: yadayada at October 25, 2007 3:49 AM

It wouldn't have made any difference...
now she's an infidel
had she stayed mOslem, she'd be called an apostate
either way she'd be labelled, so makes no difference to the duraknese.

Posted by: jcom972 at October 25, 2007 7:47 AM

Just in from FPM & Nonie Darwish:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=17069DA6-6C04-4E06-81C7-010C9F29AD55

Posted by: jcom972 at October 25, 2007 7:51 AM

jcom972:

I did not say that Berkeley was 'the worst'--nor did I imply it and neither do I necessarily think that. I reserve judgements on such matters. There's ALWAYS 'worse' somewhere lurking about...

FYI---

Pandemic lunacy as evinced at Berkeley is not my idea of a healthy trend. In fact, Berkeley's mass inasnity makes me think of Hitler's capturing the popular vote on a referendum (using a 'socialist' platform designed to lure misguided voters). So--

Yes! I actually feel menaced by Berkeley and its ilk (like UC Santa Cruz). The place stands for pandemic lunacy or worse.

And the place is making my flesh crawl, too!

Posted by: pythagoras at October 25, 2007 5:32 PM

pythagors,
that wasn't critique, just meant as lighthearted infosharing.
It's ok, we're on the same page.

one thing for sure...
that last set of comments ya made was dead on.
kudos

Posted by: jcom972 at October 26, 2007 1:49 AM